so what was the big eq2 news on tuesday ?

[Grobi]

<p>did i miss something here ? smokejumper spoke from some big exciting news comming up on tuesday ( yesterday ) but i can't find nothing.</p><p>looks like this is the state of the game right now , just isnt fun for me anymore . pretty sure xpac gets delayed and now they cant even bring news out in the promised time.</p>

[Wurm]

<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=508964" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=508964</a></p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> *edit* That was the news from yesterday.</p>

[Iamken]

<p>They mentioned in the Freeport video that sales was going to release some expansion related information on Tuesday (yesterday).  Maybe they delayed it.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>No maybe about it.</p>

[Nuadah]

<p>The closest he came to info was you can get a Lucan D'Lere statue for free on the marketplace.</p>

[Kenazeer]

<p>On 10-28, which was 12 days ago.</p><p><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>3) The Age of Discovery expansion pack is a collection of major features,</p></blockquote><p>So are we to assume that it will be like the other expansions:</p><ol><li>Available in retail channels?</li><li>Include previous expansions?</li><li>Be sold as a package only and not piecemeal?</li></ol><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>This kind of info is better released through the official marketing channels. <strong><span style="font-size: small;">Those will open up next week and you'll get tons of info on these questions.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>I could understand if they hadn't "open(ed) up" the "marketing channels" and answered <strong>ALL</strong> the questions, but they have yet to answer a single one...at least as far as I can tell, and I will gladly stand corrected if anyone can point me to a place where <strong>ANY</strong> of those three have been answered.</p>

[Hamervelder]

<p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>On 10-28, which was 12 days ago.</p><p><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>3) The Age of Discovery expansion pack is a collection of major features,</p></blockquote><p>So are we to assume that it will be like the other expansions:</p><ol><li>Available in retail channels?</li><li>Include previous expansions?</li><li>Be sold as a package only and not piecemeal?</li></ol><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>This kind of info is better released through the official marketing channels. <strong><span style="font-size: small;">Those will open up next week and you'll get tons of info on these questions.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>I could understand if they hadn't "open(ed) up" the "marketing channels" and answered <strong>ALL</strong> the questions, but they have yet to answer a single one...at least as far as I can tell, and I will gladly stand corrected if anyone can point me to a place where <strong>ANY</strong> of those three have been answered.</p></blockquote><p>SOE would need to have an actual marketing department in order for us to get any information through "official marketing channels".  A parrot with Tourette Syndrome would be capable of divulging more useful information than SOE's so-called "marketing" people.</p>

[arvydys]

<p>Apparently SoE news day got pushed back from Tuesday to Thursday.  There is a webcast scheduled tomorrow (announced yesterday).</p><p>Vanguard had their announcement pushed back to thursday too.</p>

[Elskidor]

<p>They shall announce that their will be an announcement sometime in the near future. And AoD will be ninja released tomorrow at midnight.</p>

[CeJae]

<p>Sooo we get no answers to questions for months leading to the "expansion".</p><p>Then we get a vague "We'll give you more information next week." answer.</p><p>Then when that week comes and passes we get a "Next Tuesday we'll give you more information!"</p><p>Now we get a "Oh, we didn't mean Tuesday, Thursday for sure this time."</p><p>Come on...did you really expect anything else from SoE?</p>

[Nrgy]

<p>What is a trickle of information now will quickly become a full fledge flood, Thursday is the current anticipated date for that flood gate to be open.  It might only be a stream of information, but it "should" be more that we have gotten in the last few weeks.  After which Open Beta will start and the Beta borads will be booming once again.</p><p>We're on the cusp, its coming, ready or not, it will be here soon.</p>

[Kenazeer]

<p><cite>Nrgy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What is a trickle of information now will quickly become a full fledge flood, Thursday is the current anticipated date for that flood gate to be open.  It might only be a stream of information, but it "should" be more that we have gotten in the last few weeks.  After which Open Beta will start and the Beta borads will be booming once again.</p><p>We're on the cusp, its coming, ready or not, it will be here soon.</p></blockquote><p>I would like to know what trickle you are talking about? I haven't seen anything new at all. I have had that trickle feeling too, but I don't think we are talking about the same thing.</p>

[vexrm]

<p><cite>Nrgy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What is a trickle of information now will quickly become a full fledge flood, Thursday is the current anticipated date for that flood gate to be open.  It might only be a stream of information, but it "should" be more that we have gotten in the last few weeks.  After which Open Beta will start and the Beta borads will be booming once again.</p><p>We're on the cusp, its coming, ready or not, it will be here soon.</p></blockquote><p>The problem?We heard that two weeks ago.We heard that twice last week.We are hearing it again.Beyond the fact this is way too late in the game to just now be getting info or Beta going (From what little information we DO have), missing the date this often without a clear communication on why is a great way to alienate folks.</p>

[Nolrog]

<p><cite>Elzeenor@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>They shall announce that their will be an announcement sometime in the near future. And AoD will be ninja released tomorrow at midnight.</p></blockquote><p>It actually released last night at midnight*.  Didn't you notice? </p><p>/em ducks.</p><p><span style="font-size: xx-small;">* note, meant to be facetious, not an accurate statement.</span></p>

[Brigh]

<p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would like to know what trickle you are talking about? I haven't seen anything new at all. I have had that trickle feeling too, but I don't think we are talking about the same thing.</p></blockquote><p>UI?</p><p>Seek help. Don't be shy.</p>

[Kenazeer]

<p><cite>vexrm wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Nrgy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What is a trickle of information now will quickly become a full fledge flood, Thursday is the current anticipated date for that flood gate to be open.  It might only be a stream of information, but it "should" be more that we have gotten in the last few weeks.  After which Open Beta will start and the Beta borads will be booming once again.</p><p>We're on the cusp, its coming, ready or not, it will be here soon.</p></blockquote><p>The problem?We heard that two weeks ago.We heard that twice last week.We are hearing it again.Beyond the fact this is way too late in the game to just now be getting info or Beta going (From what little information we DO have), missing the date this often without a clear communication on why is a great way to alienate folks.</p></blockquote><p>(not aimed at you, but at anyone who is actually worried that SOE is alienating players)</p><p>Man. If you ever thought SOE was interested in us you are mistaken (IMHO). At every turn it is about how can they squeeze the tiniest bit more money out of the game, not about what makes their players happy... at...every...turn. If those just so happen to coincide...yipee. Players being happy is a sometime byproduct of them wanting to make more money, not the other way around. If they don't think they will lose customers becuase of the delay in communication what do they care? Hasn't this been, and isn't it now, obvious?</p><p>What is funny is that people have been pointing these shortcomings out for a long time, and even suggesting different paths, but SOE never seems to take them. </p><p>How long have we complained about communication? Really. Ask yourself that. <strong>How long have we complained about communication?</strong> Has it ever changed? Do you think SOE cares about "alienating" us now all of a sudden?</p><p>How many other things have we complained about and offered solutions and or feedback? Itemization? QA and Testing? How far back do these complaints go?</p><p>Yet...there is always a group of people running to their (SOE) defense.</p>

[Lcneed]

<p>The Very Exciting News for EQ2 are coming tomorrow...</p><p><a href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022</a></p>

[Kenazeer]

<p><cite>Lcneed wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The Very Exciting News for EQ2 are coming tomorrow...</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022" target="_blank">http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022</a></p></blockquote><p>Extended Model here we come.</p>

[DuneWarrior]

<p>The big news on tuesday is that they hold a webcast with 'EXCITING news for EQ2' according to eq2players.com</p><p>Also, might i add that all the non english language mods have posted that however ... the english CSR havent..</p><p>Anyway thought i would tell you ..</p><p>In other news.. no news.</p>

[DuneWarrior]

<p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lcneed wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The Very Exciting News for EQ2 are coming tomorrow...</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022" target="_blank">http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022</a></p></blockquote><p>Extended Model here we come.</p></blockquote><p>In no specific order ill tell you my GUESSES as to what it can be:</p><p>One or more of the following:</p><p>A) EQ2 goes free to play per x/y/z</p><p>B) AoD have been demeed a game update, yay its now free because we did promiss a LARGE xpack .. and it sure is</p><p>C) AoD pricing...</p><p>You choose, place your bets.</p>

[Kenazeer]

<p><cite>Zaktull@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lcneed wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The Very Exciting News for EQ2 are coming tomorrow...</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022" target="_blank">http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022</a></p></blockquote><p>Extended Model here we come.</p></blockquote><p>In no specific order ill tell you my GUESSES as to what it can be:</p><p>One or more of the following:</p><p>A) EQ2 goes free to play per x/y/z</p><p>B) AoD have been demeed a game update, yay its now free because we did promiss a LARGE xpack .. and it sure is</p><p>C) AoD pricing...</p><p>You choose, place your bets.</p></blockquote><p>A (Vanguard also) <strong>and</strong> C (bought ala carate via SC)</p>

[KetaDreams]

<p>Putting off giving the customer base some basic info that has almost ALWAYS been available this close to release is really bad customer service (and this is putting it nicely). I'm usually pretty forgiving with SOE, as I've seen them go from their absolute worst to surprisingly decent customer relations in the last 10ish years.</p><p>But this situation is just making me downright angry. I, like many of you, have paid SOE for long periods of time for subscription, paid for multiple expansions and even purchased some Station cash. It's just plain disrespectful to keep putting this off. I can understand not wanting to give away specific beastlord info and so forth, but basic things like cost, whether past expansions will be included, etc?? </p><p>Come on, folks! What's going on?</p>

[kaboro]

<p>Oh come on guys, why dont you admit that if SoE did everything perfect, youd be heartbroken not to have anything to QQ everyday about.</p>

[thesiren]

<p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lcneed wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The Very Exciting News for EQ2 are coming tomorrow...</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022" target="_blank">http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5022</a></p></blockquote><p>Extended Model here we come.</p></blockquote><p>Don't tease me like that.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />  The thought of Freeport's population levels streaming onto Nagafen too like ye old days of spring 2006 are almost more than I can bear.  And I hope to God they have those planning-stage PvP changes lined up for the same time frame if that's the case, with a large "TV and internet campaign" like Smedley said on his Twitter was coming later this month truly coming up too....</p><p>No, it would all just be too good to be true.</p><p>Oh well, hopefully we'll at least get some concrete AoD dates/prices/info out of this anyway.</p>

[feldon30]

<p><img src="http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/117/009/original/soon.jpg?1303752617" width="400" /></p>

[Kenazeer]

<p><cite>thesiren wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't tease me like that.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />  The thought of Freeport's population levels streaming onto Nagafen too like ye old days of spring 2006 are almost more than I can bear. </p><p>And I hope to God they have those planning-stage PvP changes lined up for the same time frame if that's the case,</p><p>with a large "TV and internet campaign" like Smedley said on his Twitter was coming later this month truly coming up too....</p></blockquote><p>In order...</p><p>Where is this huge influx of people, enough to make a visible difference on each of the Live servers, going to come from? What is it that is keeping these people, people that are at the edge of their seat wanting to play, from playing now? Marketting?</p><p>Assuming Vanguard goes F2P too, they surely wouldn't announce something that big without 1) Having already laid the groundwork needed hardware and software wise, and 2) Having<strong> some</strong> new content lined up to a) entice old VG players and b) to pad the announcement. If Vg annouces free to play I think we will have known why we aren't getting much for this "expansion pack"; our resources were used to bring that game up to par. In that same vein, I wouldn't expect any new changes for EQ2, pvp or otherwise, other than what they have already announced.</p><p>Like I said in another post...SOE has sung the same old song and dance for years but things have never changed. We have complained about and been promised better communications, we have complained about and been promised more advertising, etc... Why on earth would you think SOE is going to break the mold now?</p><p>I hope I am wrong, but if things play out like I fear they might, I see a dismal future for EQ2.</p>

[thesiren]

<p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>thesiren wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't tease me like that.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />  The thought of Freeport's population levels streaming onto Nagafen too like ye old days of spring 2006 are almost more than I can bear. </p><p>And I hope to God they have those planning-stage PvP changes lined up for the same time frame if that's the case,</p><p>with a large "TV and internet campaign" like Smedley said on his Twitter was coming later this month truly coming up too....</p></blockquote><p>In order...</p><p>Where is this huge influx of people, enough to make a visible difference on each of the Live servers, going to come from? What is it that is keeping these people, people that are at the edge of their seat wanting to play, from playing now? Marketting?</p><p>Assuming Vanguard goes F2P too, they surely wouldn't announce something that big without 1) Having already laid the groundwork needed hardware and software wise, and 2) Having<strong> some</strong> new content lined up to a) entice old VG players and b) to pad the announcement. If Vg annouces free to play I think we will have known why we aren't getting much for this "expansion pack"; our resources were used to bring that game up to par. In that same vein, I wouldn't expect any new changes for EQ2, pvp or otherwise, other than what they have already announced.</p><p>Like I said in another post...SOE has sung the same old song and dance for years but things have never changed. We have complained about and been promised better communications, we have complained about and been promised more advertising, etc... Why on earth would you think SOE is going to break the mold now?</p><p>I hope I am wrong, but if things play out like I fear they might, I see a dismal future for EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>To be honest, I sure hope this wonderful new announcement doesn't include the merging/closure of several of our live servers so that they can go back from whence they came-- back to Vanguard, in preparation for its impending F2P announcement.</p><p>You SO know Vanguard is going F2P.  Smedley has practically said so in recent interviews, and he's gleefully shouting to the world on Twitter that DCUO's concurrent users have literally gone up 1000% since they went F2P a few days ago.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/j_smedley" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/j_smedley</a></p><p>Did you catch the bit further down about the big TV and internet campaign coming later this month?</p><p>It sure sounds as though it's for DCUO-- but, but, what about us?</p><p>Freeport is mad jamming crazy just from word of mouth for Pete's sakes.  And that includes having borne three weeks this past February 2011 of multiple crashes per day and 30 minute-4 hour + load times and queues topping 10,000, which ultimately culminated in half our pop leaving for Rift February 24th for its early start....the exact day Freeport's performance magically improved.  And our major cities went from 8-10 instances to 2-4.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If SOE advertised only for Freeport Extended, I actually fear (with AoD and Frostfell on the horizon) that Freeport couldn't bear the strain of it alone.</p>

[RadarX]

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[thesiren]

<p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>thesiren wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>...and he's gleefully shouting to the world on Twitter that DCUO's concurrent users have literally gone up 1000% since they went F2P a few days ago.</p></blockquote><p>Man. I didn't realize it was doing that poorly. Hopefully the 10% of the 120,000 who will spend money can justify its development costs. Don't want to see another cash sink that EQ2 has to make up for.</p></blockquote><p>Even on Extended I kind of resented hearing from Smokejumper about DCUO's original development, and how we were funding it.  But I can understand that as consoles are still a newly-emerging platform for MMOs, there's not much competition there yet, as opposed to the PC market, which is oversaturated these days.  So much as I resent even Smedley's passing comment about a TV and internet ad campaign for DCUO (the likes of which we have never really seen for EQ2), I can understand it to a degree.</p><p>I just wish they'd see that they have a superior game here with EQ2.  But even with EQ2, I can understand the whole Extended view.  Heck, Massively.com just had an article on their front page yesterday about how F2P microtransaction spending in the USA  is actually at a 47% market share currently versus P2P sub games, and it's poised to take over the top spot by the end of 2011.  Of course it's even higher abroad.  $ 1.2 billion dollars spent on F2Ps this year is certainly nothing to sneeze at.</p>

[Lcneed]

<p>News just out.. EQ2 is becoming F2P.  Live sub is now = Gold sub.</p>

[Virrago]

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[Kenazeer]

<p><cite>thesiren wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>thesiren wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>...and he's gleefully shouting to the world on Twitter that DCUO's concurrent users have literally gone up 1000% since they went F2P a few days ago.</p></blockquote><p>Man. I didn't realize it was doing that poorly. Hopefully the 10% of the 120,000 who will spend money can justify its development costs. Don't want to see another cash sink that EQ2 has to make up for.</p></blockquote><p>Even on Extended I kind of resented hearing from Smokejumper about DCUO's original development, and how we were funding it.  But I can understand that as consoles are still a newly-emerging platform for MMOs, there's not much competition there yet, as opposed to the PC market, which is oversaturated these days.  So much as I resent even Smedley's passing comment about a TV and internet ad campaign for DCUO (the likes of which we have never really seen for EQ2), I can understand it to a degree.</p><p><strong>I just wish they'd see that they have a superior game here with EQ2</strong>.  But even with EQ2, I can understand the whole Extended view.  Heck, Massively.com just had an article on their front page yesterday about how F2P microtransaction spending in the USA  is actually at a 47% market share currently versus P2P sub games, and it's poised to take over the top spot by the end of 2011.  Of course it's even higher abroad.  $ 1.2 billion dollars spent on F2Ps this year is certainly nothing to sneeze at.</p></blockquote><p>I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded part, with the exception that I am concerned the present tense will turn into past tense. Time will tell how they handle it in regards to funnelling resources to this game for future development.</p>

[RadarX]

<p>We are going to ask everyone provide their feedback on Free to Play in the existing <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=509050" target="_blank">thread</a> at the top.  Thanks!</p>