Who will be the new Zek Deity?

[Quicksilver74]

<p>I think it shouldn't be any of the existing 3 Zek folks, instead it should be a new Zek, a Mightier Zek... Nunchuck Zek.  </p>

[Aneova]

<p>to bad cusa isn't around anymore</p>

[kelvmor]

<p>Everyone always says Sullon Zek. IMHO, we don't need another hotheaded, reckless dolt. Give it to Vallon or Tallon, or spread it evenly among the remaining three, have the Triforce (Triad, etc.) of War.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Care to give a little background, haven't really been in the new zones yet (mostly a Soloer)</span></p>

[kelvmor]

<p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Care to give a little background, haven't really been in the new zones yet (mostly a Soloer)</span></p></blockquote><p>Okay, so we're killing Rallos. We were told that it was up to us (I think) to choose the new God of War.</p>

[Corydonn]

<p>I will volunteer!</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Someone tactics minded and can pull of a <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit" target="_blank">Xanatos Gambit</a> if needed.</span></p>

[ttobey]

<p>Harvey Zek. Former janitor in Freeport.</p>

[Talathion]

<p>Talathion for New Zek!</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>Ummm. Sullon is NOT a 'hot headed dolt' she's far from it. she's a controlled, agressive, dangerous adversary. she focuses her rage, and uses it to go into a kind of battle trance that makes her nearly unbeatable.</p><p>however, that being said, her rage is also her achillies heel. get her angry and enraged and not give her an outlet or time to focus, and she's a wild barbaric butcher who's uncontrollable but sloppy.</p><p>and the reason why I choose Sullon is because out of the three kids, she's the ONLY one that actually wants to fight. Tallon and Vallon both are all about strat/tactics/theories played out on battleplans and paper. they are the kind that would spend 6 months coming up with a Xanatos Gambit, while Sullon would just smash her enemies head in the second the opportunity presented itself.</p><p>But unlike Rallos, Sullon DOES respect Vallon and Tallon in the idea that they know thier areas of expertise. and she would certainly use thier council and take thier suggestions into account. So I'd see it as a Triumverate of War either way. either the power is evenly spread between all three, of Sullon becomes Goddess of War but keeps constant council with her brothers to best plan future endeavors.</p>

[Meirril]

<p>And comming out of left field is a lanky young lad of only 500, with a long history of fighting on the defense. Your new contender for God of War...lets hear it for Lucan D'Lere!</p><p>Honestly, we could be thrown for a severe loop if Lucan and Antonia were suddenly promoted to diety status. Lucan has been looking to become a diety for a while, and his defense of Freeport was successful (though, in part because his greatest enemies sided with him, and were destroyed by him during the conflict). With the proper agents in place he could make sure that nobody is left alive to win. With a little aid from either Zeb or Mayong he could step in to become the next God of War.</p><p>Antonia Bayle has a great deal of admirers around the world. She is probably the most desired woman of this age. She also has shown a great deal of compassion toward not only the people of Qeynos, but also for Freeport (even if the common people don't know). It is possible that she could ascend to take Erollisi's place.</p><p>Now this isn't what I'd like to happen, but it is certainly an interesting possability.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Talathion for New Zek!</p></blockquote><p>Maybe Talathion for the new Inny.</p>

[Arbreth]

<p>Hey, my vote would go to Cory, that Iksar don't need no stinkin' sword to annihilate his enemies!</p>

[kelvmor]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ummm. Sullon is NOT a 'hot headed dolt' she's far from it. she's a <strong>controlled</strong>, agressive, dangerous adversary. she focuses her rage, and uses it to go into a kind of battle trance that makes her nearly unbeatable.</p><p>however, that being said, her rage is also her achillies heel. get her angry and enraged and not give her an outlet or time to focus, and she's a wild barbaric butcher who's uncontrollable but sloppy.</p><p>and the reason why I choose Sullon is because out of the three kids, she's the ONLY one that actually wants to fight. Tallon and Vallon both are all about strat/tactics/theories played out on battleplans and paper. they are the kind that would spend 6 months coming up with a Xanatos Gambit, <strong>while Sullon would just smash her enemies head in the second the opportunity presented itself.</strong></p><p>But unlike Rallos, Sullon DOES respect Vallon and Tallon in the idea that they know thier areas of expertise. and she would certainly use thier council and take thier suggestions into account. So I'd see it as a Triumverate of War either way. either the power is evenly spread between all three, of Sullon becomes Goddess of War but keeps constant council with her brothers to best plan future endeavors.</p></blockquote><p>I do like the Triumvirate idea than just a single god. Law and order are necessary for a successful army. Sure, you could have a huge motley horde of giants, and that's great; but get right down to it, an army of disciplined, well-prepared humans and/or elves could take it out. Discipline and reason over disorder, I say. Perhaps Tallon and Vallon could even Sullon out, so to speak.</p><p>Also, mortals becoming gods again? No thanks. Though if it was a mortal, I'd say Urduuk, or the revived Avatar of War from the Second Rallosian War (back when Avatars were mortals imbued with the divine power of their god).</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>All the Zeks feared sullon. cause she's the only person, ever, to as a mortal go toe to toe with Rallos as nearly BEAT HIM. he focused rage was that potent. rallos finally did get the better of her by breaking her focus by laughing when she started kicking his rear.</p><p>sullon could beat Vallon and Tallon. she almost took oiut Rallos when she was a mortal, and now she's a demi-god. But being mortal, she understands the idea of strategy and tactics in combat. it's her idea basically to have us inform Tallon/Vallon of what's going on, since it apparently never entered either of thier minds that Rallos intended to cannibalize them.</p><p>Rallos is a hot-headed brute. his strategic mind is like in the zorro movie: The pointy end goes into the other person. i you look at his doctrine, yeah he's all about might makes right. the person with the biggest sword makes the rules. which is why when Vallon/Tallon said you know, the other gods are right, your idea is a bad one...they got locked up and the plan to cannibalize them for a full invasion was probably implemented two seconds later.</p><p>and why is rallos doing it? becuase he fully expects that Kera won't be able to slay him like Theer could. and that he'll be able to beat Kera within an inch o fhis life and steal the Godslaying power...and then he will become the 'King of Kings' the ultimate god.</p><p>and his pride, like it did earlier in PoEarth, is going to bring him down. except this time he's going down for good.</p><p>Tallon is out of the idea for being War...heck he doesn't even think Rallos can be beaten. he's lost the fight before it even started. Vallon is more convinced that it can be done, but the odds are definately not in thier favor...and yet he's still up for the fight. he'd rather die on his feet then be sacrificed.</p><p>only Sullon is there, eager, aggressively looking forward to beating the living daylights out of Rallos. She not only thnks Rallos can be beaten, she has no doubt that he WILL be beaten. She stomped on him aws a mortal, she'll break him as a demi-god.</p><p>and that's the attitude War needs to have. not Rallos' 'I smash you cause my axe is bigger' but Sullon's 'I can beat you. we both know I can. But if you wanna dance anyway, lets do it.'</p><p>She's not the kind that would go eagerly looking to pick fights just for the hell of it, but she certainly would finish a fight if one got started.</p>

[kelvmor]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>All the Zeks feared sullon. cause she's the only person, ever, to as a mortal go toe to toe with Rallos as nearly BEAT HIM. he focused rage was that potent. rallos finally did get the better of her by breaking her focus by laughing when she started kicking his rear.</p><p>sullon could beat Vallon and Tallon. she almost took oiut Rallos when she was a mortal, and now she's a demi-god. But being mortal, she understands the idea of strategy and tactics in combat. it's her idea basically to have us inform Tallon/Vallon of what's going on, since it apparently never entered either of thier minds that Rallos intended to cannibalize them.</p><p>Rallos is a hot-headed brute. his strategic mind is like in the zorro movie: The pointy end goes into the other person. i you look at his doctrine, yeah he's all about might makes right. the person with the biggest sword makes the rules. which is why when Vallon/Tallon said you know, the other gods are right, your idea is a bad one...they got locked up and the plan to cannibalize them for a full invasion was probably implemented two seconds later.</p><p>and why is rallos doing it? becuase he fully expects that Kera won't be able to slay him like Theer could. and that he'll be able to beat Kera within an inch o fhis life and steal the Godslaying power...and then he will become the 'King of Kings' the ultimate god.</p><p>and his pride, like it did earlier in PoEarth, is going to bring him down. except this time he's going down for good.</p><p>Tallon is out of the idea for being War...heck he doesn't even think Rallos can be beaten. he's lost the fight before it even started. Vallon is more convinced that it can be done, but the odds are definately not in thier favor...and yet he's still up for the fight. he'd rather die on his feet then be sacrificed.</p><p>only Sullon is there, eager, aggressively looking forward to beating the living daylights out of Rallos. She not only thnks Rallos can be beaten, she has no doubt that he WILL be beaten. She stomped on him aws a mortal, she'll break him as a demi-god.</p><p>and that's the attitude War needs to have. not Rallos' 'I smash you cause my axe is bigger' but Sullon's 'I can beat you. we both know I can. But if you wanna dance anyway, lets do it.'</p><p>She's not the kind that would go eagerly looking to pick fights just for the hell of it, but she certainly would finish a fight if one got started.</p></blockquote><p>Sullon never nearly beat Rallos; she nearly hit him, and she fell to her knees, refusing to score a hit on Rallos Zek. Zek laughed at her, commanded her to never drop her axes, and then he made her the Demi-goddess of Rage. Or something like that; it was a standstill.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ummm. Sullon is NOT a 'hot headed dolt' she's far from it. she's a controlled, agressive, dangerous adversary. she focuses her rage, and uses it to go into a kind of battle trance that makes her nearly unbeatable.</p><p>however, that being said, her rage is also her achillies heel. get her angry and enraged and not give her an outlet or time to focus, and she's a wild barbaric butcher who's uncontrollable but sloppy.</p><p>and the reason why I choose Sullon is because out of the three kids, she's the ONLY one that actually wants to fight. Tallon and Vallon both are all about strat/tactics/theories played out on battleplans and paper. they are the kind that would spend 6 months coming up with a Xanatos Gambit, while Sullon would just smash her enemies head in the second the opportunity presented itself.</p><p>But unlike Rallos, Sullon DOES respect Vallon and Tallon in the idea that they know thier areas of expertise. and she would certainly use thier council and take thier suggestions into account. So I'd see it as a Triumverate of War either way. either the power is evenly spread between all three, of Sullon becomes Goddess of War but keeps constant council with her brothers to best plan future endeavors.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">There is a difference between war and mindless rampage, one is just fighting the other requires the movement and logistics  of large groups of troops to occupy land and to render you enemy incapable of battle. </span></p>

[Talathion]

<p>Corydonn can't be the new Zek diety because hes an iksar, so there, also he doesn't have the right mind set Zek would like anyways, too Corydonny.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I have to say, I like the Janitor guy's chances. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></span></p>

[Cocytus]

<p>I'd think either Sullon, or as proposed, the "triad" or "Triumvirate" of War. Much like Water.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>All the Zeks feared sullon. cause she's the only person, ever, to as a mortal go toe to toe with Rallos as nearly BEAT HIM. he focused rage was that potent. rallos finally did get the better of her by breaking her focus by laughing when she started kicking his rear.</p><p>sullon could beat Vallon and Tallon. she almost took oiut Rallos when she was a mortal, and now she's a demi-god. But being mortal, she understands the idea of strategy and tactics in combat. it's her idea basically to have us inform Tallon/Vallon of what's going on, since it apparently never entered either of thier minds that Rallos intended to cannibalize them.</p><p>Rallos is a hot-headed brute. his strategic mind is like in the zorro movie: The pointy end goes into the other person. i you look at his doctrine, yeah he's all about might makes right. the person with the biggest sword makes the rules. which is why when Vallon/Tallon said you know, the other gods are right, your idea is a bad one...they got locked up and the plan to cannibalize them for a full invasion was probably implemented two seconds later.</p><p>and why is rallos doing it? becuase he fully expects that Kera won't be able to slay him like Theer could. and that he'll be able to beat Kera within an inch o fhis life and steal the Godslaying power...and then he will become the 'King of Kings' the ultimate god.</p><p>and his pride, like it did earlier in PoEarth, is going to bring him down. except this time he's going down for good.</p><p>Tallon is out of the idea for being War...heck he doesn't even think Rallos can be beaten. he's lost the fight before it even started. Vallon is more convinced that it can be done, but the odds are definately not in thier favor...and yet he's still up for the fight. he'd rather die on his feet then be sacrificed.</p><p>only Sullon is there, eager, aggressively looking forward to beating the living daylights out of Rallos. She not only thnks Rallos can be beaten, she has no doubt that he WILL be beaten. She stomped on him aws a mortal, she'll break him as a demi-god.</p><p>and that's the attitude War needs to have. not Rallos' 'I smash you cause my axe is bigger' but Sullon's 'I can beat you. we both know I can. But if you wanna dance anyway, lets do it.'</p><p>She's not the kind that would go eagerly looking to pick fights just for the hell of it, but she certainly would finish a fight if one got started.</p></blockquote><p>Sullon never nearly beat Rallos; she nearly hit him, and she fell to her knees, refusing to score a hit on Rallos Zek. Zek laughed at her, commanded her to never drop her axes, and then he made her the Demi-goddess of Rage. Or something like that; it was a standstill.</p></blockquote><p>you got it confused. it went like this:</p><p>Sullon goes to the Drunder Arena as a mortal and cleans house.</p><p>Rallos is impressed, and goes to the arena to face Sullon.</p><p>Sullon drops her axes and kneels, refusing to fight Rallos.</p><p>Rallos gets rather annoyed, and demands she fight and not drop her axes again.</p><p>Sullon goes one on one with Rallos full bore into the breach. Rallos actually gets put entirely on defense and gets pushed back...Sullon is actually WINNING the fight. Rallos laughs at the situation, Sullon's concentration/focused rage gets broken, Rallos seizes the opportunity to push her back, and calls it a draw.</p><p>Rallos raises Sullon to become the Demigoddess of Rage.</p>

[Quicksilver74]

<p>I'm an Ogre, I suppose I could take up the mantle of Zek.  My name even fits.  Crabbok Zek.  </p><p>Anyhow, on a more serious note I could imagine that after Rallos is defeated, and if he is truly killed, then we will have 2 dead gods on our hands, Erolisi Marr, and Rallos Zek... and that could lead to a new romance in the God Afterlife - which coudl spawn a baby that will grow to be the God of Gods.  Thus beginning the new storyline of EQ2.  </p><p>  Rallosi Marzek - The God of Gods.   </p>

[kelvmor]

<p>All's fair in love and war, they say...</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>All's fair in love and war, they say...</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Oh Dear! <strong>Erollisi</strong></span><strong> <span style="color: #00cc00;"> Zek!</span></strong></p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>All's fair in love and war, they say...</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Oh Dear! <strong>Erollisi</strong></span><strong> <span style="color: #00cc00;">Zek!</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>And the new romance novel sweeping Qeynos and Freeport, The Bride of War!</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>All's fair in love and war, they say...</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Oh Dear! <strong>Erollisi</strong></span><strong> <span style="color: #00cc00;">Zek!</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>And the new romance novel sweeping Qeynos and Freeport, The Bride of War!</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">OHH That might be a good Story title!</span></p>

[ratbast]

<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=462634" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=462634</a> "Forver the commander he has now risen in rank to play his part in ages end." Zebuxoruk thought this could be Lucan D'lere. other possibilities: -Known as the Beholder of Battle, Tallon Zek is the god of strategy. -Vallon Zek is the god of tactics, dubbed the Governor of War. My guess is Vallon Zek

[kelvmor]

<p>According to the new ogre racial quests, Tallon, Vallon, and Sullon split Zek's power amongst themselves. They still have their previous titles, but together they rule as the Gods of War, AKA Hounds of War.</p>

[Aneova]

<p><cite>Crabbok@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm an Ogre, I suppose I could take up the mantle of Zek.  My name even fits.  Crabbok Zek.  </p><p>Anyhow, on a more serious note I could imagine that after Rallos is defeated, and if he is truly killed, <strong>we'd have</strong> <strong>one dead god Rallos Zek and a restored Goddess</strong> ...</p></blockquote><p>Fixed it for you <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>According to the new ogre racial quests, Tallon, Vallon, and Sullon split Zek's power amongst themselves. They still have their previous titles, but together they rule as the Gods of War, AKA Hounds of War.</p></blockquote><p>Barbarians also learn some tidbits during their racial in Freeport (second quest). I think it was mostly focused on Sullon, didn't think to log the dialogue though.</p>

[Gukkor]

<p>I vote for Rolfron.  Nobody ever remembers poor old Rolfron Zek...</p>

[shadowscale]

<p><cite>Gukkor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I vote for Rolfron.  Nobody ever remembers poor old Rolfron Zek...</p></blockquote><p>no one really remembers Erik eather. Rallos's own son, yet is just another named in the raid zone rather then anyone important.</p>

[Gukkor]

<p>Well, at the very least, we can safely conclude that Eriak never got his divinity back.  Rolfron just kind of...vanished.  I guess it's entirely possible that Rallos reabsorbed him, a la Lanys and Vazaelle, but they could at least clarify what happened, especially since the Zeks are center stage at the moment.</p><p>Of course, I haven't been an active player in quite awhile, so I suppose I'm in no position to make demands. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Cusashorn]

That's the thing about Rolfron: Nobody cares about him because he's not supposed to be cared about. It's the whole purpose of his existence.

[Rainmare]

<p>I though someplace they said Rolfron was reabsorbed. I though every demi-god except the 'big three' were in the Zek family.</p>

[Cusashorn]

Well, I don't think we'd learn very much about Derris and Goryn if they had been absorbed, considering they were first introduced in this game.

[KniteShayd]

<p>I don't think we have heard that Druzzil or Ayonae had been absorbed either. We know Varig wasn't.</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>That's the thing about Rolfron: Nobody cares about him because he's not supposed to be cared about. It's the whole purpose of his existence.</blockquote><p>Yep, that's why his name is another anagram. Rolfron = Forlorn</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Rainmare]

<p>though the only time you really hear about Gorynn is in the bruiser epic. so it's entirely plausible he was reabsorbed, since all you learn is pretty much just the 'story' for the existance of the weapon. not when it was made or of Gorynn is still around.</p><p>and I think you only learn a few tidbits about Derris in Zek, right? nothing overly spectacular or indepth on him either.</p><p>and I'm not sure Lanys is 'completely' absorbed. I think she's become more like Master Wu is with Quellious. hre power as a demigod and ruling her own plane is gone, but I think she's still in Hate at Inny's side. especially since Sedition's purpose was to 're-empower' her with everyone you struck down with it. kinda hard to empower something that doesn't exist anymore.</p>