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kelvmor

10-28-2011, 05:23 PM

So, since stuff like the level 90 Dreadnaught (non-Challenger's version) and the Fyst's Steel stuff is basically useless compared to the Velious BG armor, can the token price be lowered for this stuff? Or maybe some appearance armor made of it.

Snached

10-28-2011, 05:45 PM

<cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>So, since stuff like the level 90 Dreadnaught (non-Challenger's version) and the Fyst's Steel stuff is basically useless compared to the Velious BG armor, can the token price be lowered for this stuff? Or maybe some appearance armor made of it.</blockquote>This in no way is meant to be sarcastic but if it is useless why would you care how much it costs. Or do I just not understand your question?<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" />

kelvmor

10-28-2011, 05:52 PM

<cite>Snached@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>So, since stuff like the level 90 Dreadnaught (non-Challenger's version) and the Fyst's Steel stuff is basically useless compared to the Velious BG armor, can the token price be lowered for this stuff? Or maybe some appearance armor made of it.</blockquote>This in no way is meant to be sarcastic but if it is useless why would you care how much it costs. Or do I just not understand your question?<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Well, I like the appearance of the original BG armor. I'd love to have it, but the price is rather steep, considering those tokens could be used for the Velious BG armor.

Snached

10-28-2011, 05:54 PM

i c now <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />

Talathion

10-29-2011, 06:36 PM

No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)

Ahlana

11-05-2011, 10:45 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!

Talathion

11-05-2011, 12:46 PM

<cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?Also, Who wants to play on a server where 99% of the players are not PVPing/Riding in Immunity? Hardly a PvP server.((I just wish I played on Naggy when BGs first came out and could Xfer there, PvP before flying mounts was actually fun, and I would probably have my full suit by now....))

Kimber

11-05-2011, 12:59 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?Also, Who wants to play on a server where 99% of the players are not PVPing/Riding in Immunity? Hardly a PvP server.((I just wish I played on Naggy when BGs first came out and could Xfer there, PvP before flying mounts was actually fun, and I would probably have my full suit by now....))</blockquote>Funny in anouther thread you said<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I don't care about PVP, I don't care if heals still don't crit in PVP, I only care about PVE.</blockquote>and this is not the first time you said that about PvP and that you only care about PvE.At one point you claimed to have a toon on Naggy and know what was going on but obviously you do not. I am in Japan atm and do not get to play at prime time US but I still find a decent amount of PvP so you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. So either earn your PvP gear or dont up to you. Untill you roll on Naggy and actually play there other than casual you have no idea about PvP or how the server works as far as open world PvP.

Talathion

11-05-2011, 01:28 PM

Of course, I don't care about PvP now because its dead.Kimber.. why you so angry?

Ahlana

11-05-2011, 01:35 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?</blockquote>No to be a hypocrite BGs would need to be available to PVE servers only and then I would need to cry about wanting the gear from there, even though I could roll on a PVE server to get it.Since that is not the case.. I am no hypocrite. However you telling someone they need to earn the gear they want, while you want some other gear handed to you.. is indeed being a hypocrite.

Talathion

11-05-2011, 04:25 PM

<cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?</blockquote>No to be a hypocrite BGs would need to be available to PVE servers only and then I would need to cry about wanting the gear from there, even though I could roll on a PVE server to get it.Since that is not the case.. I am no hypocrite. However you telling someone they need to earn the gear they want, while you want some other gear handed to you.. is indeed being a hypocrite.</blockquote>Its hypocritical because there isn't a PVE Version of it with a PVE Way to achieve it, and theres simply nothing else that looks or come close to looking as good.

Crismorn

11-05-2011, 07:53 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?Also, Who wants to play on a server where 99% of the players are not PVPing/Riding in Immunity? Hardly a PvP server.((I just wish I played on Naggy when BGs first came out and could Xfer there, PvP before flying mounts was actually fun, and I would probably have my full suit by now....))</blockquote>You gave up before trying, population excuses cant even come into play if you dont even try first.

Crismorn

11-05-2011, 07:54 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?</blockquote>No to be a hypocrite BGs would need to be available to PVE servers only and then I would need to cry about wanting the gear from there, even though I could roll on a PVE server to get it.Since that is not the case.. I am no hypocrite. However you telling someone they need to earn the gear they want, while you want some other gear handed to you.. is indeed being a hypocrite.</blockquote>Its hypocritical because there isn't a PVE Version of it with a PVE Way to achieve it, and theres simply nothing else that looks or come close to looking as good.</blockquote>Youa re correct, there is no pve version of pvp armor.....

Crismorn

11-05-2011, 07:54 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Of course, I don't care about PvP now because its dead.Kimber.. why you so angry?</blockquote>Pvp is far from dead

Talathion

11-05-2011, 08:34 PM

<cite>Crismorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?</blockquote>No to be a hypocrite BGs would need to be available to PVE servers only and then I would need to cry about wanting the gear from there, even though I could roll on a PVE server to get it.Since that is not the case.. I am no hypocrite. However you telling someone they need to earn the gear they want, while you want some other gear handed to you.. is indeed being a hypocrite.</blockquote>Its hypocritical because there isn't a PVE Version of it with a PVE Way to achieve it, and theres simply nothing else that looks or come close to looking as good.</blockquote>Youa re correct, there is no pve version of pvp armor.....</blockquote>I guess you never played EoF.

Ilovecows

11-05-2011, 08:46 PM

Honestly it makes sense. If you aren't on a pvp server then there is no reason to get the gear. If you want it so bad, come to a pvp server otherwise quit whining about it.

Ahlana

11-06-2011, 07:09 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there! ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?</blockquote>No to be a hypocrite BGs would need to be available to PVE servers only and then I would need to cry about wanting the gear from there, even though I could roll on a PVE server to get it.Since that is not the case.. I am no hypocrite. However you telling someone they need to earn the gear they want, while you want some other gear handed to you.. is indeed being a hypocrite.</blockquote>Its hypocritical because there isn't a PVE Version of it with a PVE Way to achieve it, and theres simply nothing else that looks or come close to looking as good.</blockquote> Um I am beginning to think that you do not know what that word actually means. As it is not hypocritical that there is not a PVE version of it with a PVE way to achieve it. Truly you boggle the mind sometimes Unfair? It is debateable and I would say no as it is PVP gear designed to be used on the PVP server, not the PVE servers. But it certainly is not hypocritical

Talathion

11-06-2011, 01:07 PM

I guess having better looking armor is a huge advantage in PVP and what makes up the skill of the playerbase, no wonder people are leaving to PVE servers, its hard to look good in PVP when your only 90% Immune to PVP instead of 100%.

kelvmor

11-06-2011, 02:27 PM

Yeah, okay, no. The old PVP armor is basically worthless (my handcrafted stuff has better stats FFS), just drop the price and/or make it into appearance gear (which would justify an even larger price drop than originally intended).

Talathion

11-06-2011, 02:31 PM

I want the option to examine it and change it into Discord.

Ilovecows

11-07-2011, 01:35 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want the option to examine it and change it into Discord.</blockquote>pvp and you will be able to get discord items.

Talathion

11-07-2011, 01:04 PM

<cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want the option to examine it and change it into Discord.</blockquote>pvp and you will be able to get discord items.</blockquote><div><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, okay, no. The old PVP armor is basically worthless (my handcrafted stuff has better stats FFS), just drop the price and/or make it into appearance gear (which would justify an even larger price drop than originally intended).<div></div></blockquote></div>

Proud_Silence

11-09-2011, 12:38 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want the option to examine it and change it into Discord.</blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I don't care about PVP, I don't care if heals still don't crit in PVP, I only care about PVE.</blockquote>Now crawl back into your troll cave

Ilovecows

11-09-2011, 01:12 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want the option to examine it and change it into Discord.</blockquote>pvp and you will be able to get discord items.</blockquote><div><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, okay, no. The old PVP armor is basically worthless (my handcrafted stuff has better stats FFS), just drop the price and/or make it into appearance gear (which would justify an even larger price drop than originally intended).<div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>you chose to be on a pve server. once you start pvping then you can get pvp armor. not before.

Talathion

11-09-2011, 11:42 AM

<cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want the option to examine it and change it into Discord.</blockquote>pvp and you will be able to get discord items.</blockquote><div><cite>Ugreth@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, okay, no. The old PVP armor is basically worthless (my handcrafted stuff has better stats FFS), just drop the price and/or make it into appearance gear (which would justify an even larger price drop than originally intended).<div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>you chose to be on a pve server. once you start pvping then you can get pvp armor. not before.</blockquote>Because PVP armor that has the exact same stats as PVE armor, gives you an advantage in looking good, thus making you better, amiright?Can't people get the armor by going AFK On top of WFs and getting tokens? Yep. What about them? are you gonna tell them they are pvping? Yep.

Rahatmattata

11-11-2011, 03:54 PM

go afk on top of a wf tower then tool. or better yet, do the community a huge favor and just uninstall the game.

Magnis

11-11-2011, 06:07 PM

wow no love for tala...

Shankapotomus

11-25-2011, 07:30 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No, you have to earn it, BUT I DO WANT TO BE ABLE to get the PVP Version of the same armor.(The dark blue/dark gold set.)</blockquote>Come over to Naggy and earn it!</blockquote>I would but nobody plays there!ALSO, You can earn BG sets but I cannot earn PVP Sets?Hypocrital Much?Also, Who wants to play on a server where 99% of the players are not PVPing/Riding in Immunity? Hardly a PvP server.((I just wish I played on Naggy when BGs first came out and could Xfer there, PvP before flying mounts was actually fun, and I would probably have my full suit by now....))</blockquote>In this case, since apperance you've stated is a major factor in your gaming skill set, I would like to SoE to make PvP versions of every raid/zone gear set, weapon, mounts, and appearance items.I've hardly set foot in any of the new zones from this expansion, because I solely PvP.Because just like in raids, if I'm going to stand around doing nothing in PvP, I need to look snazzy while i do it.P.S. Is it not true you can get gear for chars you are not even playing in raids? I think they should have faction set before you can use PvE gear in my opinion. But we're talking about making this fair right? my bad

Shankapotomus

11-25-2011, 07:38 AM

Forgot to mention you're on the wrong forum thread. If you are talking about "Discord" armor that would be the PvP version and has nothing to do with battlegrounds and should not be able to be purchased in any form from BG vendors for BG tokens. Unless I am able to buy PvE gear with PvP tokens.But now we're just in a never ending fairness battle, Because you think you should have the ability to look cool...Should we start on the topic of corrupted American cultural expectations?

Talathion

11-25-2011, 01:46 PM

<cite>Shankapotomus@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Forgot to mention you're on the wrong forum thread. If you are talking about "Discord" armor that would be the PvP version and has nothing to do with battlegrounds and should not be able to be purchased in any form from BG vendors for BG tokens. Unless I am able to buy PvE gear with PvP tokens.But now we're just in a never ending fairness battle, Because you think you should have the ability to look cool...Should we start on the topic of corrupted American cultural expectations?</blockquote>What does BGs have to do with PVE?If Old BG gear is nerfed in price, so should Old Discord Gear, since they have EXACTLY the same stats.