Unattuning woe/adorn popoff woes

[DuneWarrior]

<p>So had a few alts i did NOT login due to the mess up in AA's, unattuning etc.</p><p>Now with the latest unattune NOT popping adorns, and it being the only unattuning happening i was "lucky" enough to NOT have my gear unadorned.</p><p>What is the process for this ? CSR? or are people who did not login for that one short window just SOL?</p>

[Chaosonia]

<p>Same thing just happened to me.  Logged in my alt to find all of her adornments are still on her gear. I didn't realize that we had a set limit of time (one day???) to log our characters in for their equipment to un-adorn.</p>

[DuneWarrior]

<p><cite>Chaosonia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Same thing just happened to me.  Logged in my alt to find all of her adornments are still on her gear. I didn't realize that we had a set limit of time (one day???) to log our characters in for their equipment to un-adorn.</p></blockquote><p>It was never announced like that, the reason for this mess is entirely the fact that the first unattuned was botched BUT it did pop off adorns, so they did a second round however that round did not pop off adorns.</p><p>Leaving people who did NOT login cheated <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Lempo]

<p>Please. No one was cheated.</p>

[DuneWarrior]

<p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Please. No one was cheated.</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely correct, i mean it clearly was stated "you must login before next hotfix for this to occur" .. right?</p><p>Infact the ONLY reason adorns arent pop'ed of the 2nd time is because according to the dev's "That worked correctly originally and all your adorns DID pop off"</p><p>Problem is, they only pop'ed of it you actually LOGGEDE in... which im sure if rothgar revists this thread, he would admit wasnt the intend of the fixing of the unattune.</p>

[Lempo]

<p>Grasping at straws.</p><p>I didn't get to exploit the shady swashbuckler before they removed him, I don't even know what was being exploited, I didn't get to exploit the monolith in the new Silent City instance because both were yanked...</p>

[DuneWarrior]

<p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Grasping at straws.</p><p>I didn't get to exploit the shady swashbuckler before they removed him, I don't even know what was being exploited, I didn't get to exploit the monolith in the new Silent City instance because both were yanked...</p></blockquote><p>stop judging other people, notice i clearly ASK how to handle it, i would be HAPPY if their CSR's can handle it, that is all. You do know that they can see the logs if/who adorns pop'ed or not along with which items where unattuned .. right?</p><p>The fact YOU wanted to exploit it does not pertain to the question at all, im well aware that the solution is NOT a new adorn pop, however the fix because they DIDNT unattune correctly, did mean that some people did not get their adorns pop'ed off.</p>

[Lempo]

<p><cite>Zaktull@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Grasping at straws.</p><p>I didn't get to exploit the shady swashbuckler before they removed him, I don't even know what was being exploited, I didn't get to exploit the monolith in the new Silent City instance because both were yanked...</p></blockquote><p>stop judging other people, notice i clearly ASK how to handle it, i would be HAPPY if their CSR's can handle it, that is all. You do know that they can see the logs if/who adorns pop'ed or not along with which items where unattuned .. right?</p><p>The fact YOU wanted to exploit it does not pertain to the question at all, im well aware that the solution is NOT a new adorn pop, however the fix because they DIDNT unattune correctly, did mean that some people did not get their adorns pop'ed off.</p></blockquote><p>The one that is doing the judging asking others to stop, lol pot meet kettle.</p><p>The CSR's can not handle it, that I can tell you.</p><p>I didn't want to exploit anything, I was just showing how 'opportunity' can be available for limited times.</p><p>This was one of those things, in the past when SOE has made changes to what classes could equip a piece of gear you could log into your toon find it in your overflow slot still attuned and useless for anything but vendor fodder (before transmuting). </p><p>SOE had problems with the process, one of the fail safe mechanisms in the game database was not acknowledging the unattune and they changed the process slightly using the same code (this is an assumption, albeit a reasonable one) that the unattuning wands that you can get from LoN. This code does not remove adorns, the first way was causing other issues so they scrapped it, those that logged in that day had it work for them, some had no issues because of using the shared bank others had gear reattuning or just auto attuning outright. The ones that got in early were fortunate, the ones that didn't still get the intended result gear unattuned, the adorns popping off were actually a byproduct of this in someway, it was explained in a post by a dev.</p><p>I had no desire to exploit the monolith in the silent city, I wanted to use it to get some shards but it was yanked from the game until it could be fixed so running the zone I was not able to get them, while those that ran before me were able to (some found an exploit to get more), after SOE removed it things changed it now was affecting everyone in game the same way so CSR's can not do anything, this is standard SOE policy. CRS's can not help you here, the amount of work that it would create if they started making case by case exceptions scanning logs, verifying implementing the request and so on would be overwhelming. You might think this crusade is going to net you something but it isn't, it you feel compelled to continue on it by all means do, just trying to save you some time as it is not going to happen.</p>

[Raknid]

<p><cite>Zaktull@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Please. No one was cheated.</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely correct, i mean it clearly was stated "you must login before next hotfix for this to occur" .. right?</p><p>Infact the ONLY reason adorns arent pop'ed of the 2nd time is because according to the dev's "That worked correctly originally and all your adorns DID pop off"</p><p>Problem is, they only pop'ed of it you actually LOGGEDE in... which im sure if rothgar revists this thread, he would admit wasnt the intend of the fixing of the unattune.</p></blockquote><p>Although I was unaffected by this, I cannot emphasize this point enough. This could be an issue if people did not have the gear and adornments they were previously wearing in overflow because they<strong> had not logged in after the GU and only received the unattune propmt.</strong> </p><p>Had SOE done it correctly the first go around, anyone who subsequently logged in, no matter if it was the next day, next week, or next month, would have had their adornments popped off. However, since SOE botched the process the only people who might have been able to get their adorments remove were those who were able to login between the first  attempt and the second unattune popup. Rightly or not, those people could be "<strong>penalized</strong>" by not being afforded the oppurtunity, which would have been <strong>through absolutely no fault of their own.</strong></p><p>As I said I was not affected by this as I was able to log in so cannot verify that it is indeed an issue.</p>

[Lempo]

<p>I can confirm that if you did not log in that gear did not unattune from you nor did adornments pop out of their slots.</p><p>The whole basis of this thread is flawed, it is one of those if you snooze you lose things there are much more impacting issues that need to be dealt with instead of this foolishness about recovering some adorns.</p>

[Raknid]

<p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I can confirm that if you did not log in that gear did not unattune from you nor did adornments pop out of their slots.</p><p>The whole basis of this thread is flawed, it is one of those if you snooze you lose things there are much more impacting issues that need to be dealt with instead of this foolishness about recovering some adorns.</p></blockquote><p>I beg to differ. This is one of the things rothgar said:</p><p>The unattuning process was meant to be a curtesy to all the players because of the changes that the items are going through.  It wasn't something we had to do, but we wanted to do so you'd have the opportunity to sell or trade <strong>an item that no longer has value to you.</strong> </p><p>Yes it was a courtesy. However, anyone who did not log in between Thursday night and Monday night(early morning Tuesday actually) were not afforded the courtesy.</p><p>1) High level adornments are not cheap</p><p>2) The mechanical "value" of a specific adornment is based largely upon the class. Some adornments do more, or less, for certain classes.</p><p>3) Some of the stat changes to items basically made them worthless to the prior user, even if that class is "allowed" to equip it.</p><p>Therefore, some people are stuck with expensive adorments stuck on gear that they can no longer use, possibily even adornments that do not align with the new class intended for the gear.</p><p>You may think adornments are cheap, but there are probably a lot of people who don't, may have been affected by this, and would like the oppurtunity to do something useful with the items and adornments they previously valued.</p>

[Maroger]

<p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I can confirm that if you did not log in that gear did not unattune from you nor did adornments pop out of their slots.</p><p>The whole basis of this thread is flawed, it is one of those if you snooze you lose things there are much more impacting issues that need to be dealt with instead of this foolishness about recovering some adorns.</p></blockquote><p>I beg to differ. This is one of the things rothgar said:</p><p>The unattuning process was meant to be a curtesy to all the players because of the changes that the items are going through.  It wasn't something we had to do, but we wanted to do so you'd have the opportunity to sell or trade <strong>an item that no longer has value to you.</strong> </p><p>Yes it was a courtesy. However, anyone who did not log in between Thursday night and Monday night(early morning Tuesday actually) were not afforded the courtesy.</p><p>1) High level adornments are not cheap</p><p>2) The mechanical "value" of a specific adornment is based largely upon the class. Some adornments do more, or less, for certain classes.</p><p>3) Some of the stat changes to items basically made them worthless to the prior user, even if that class is "allowed" to equip it.</p><p>Therefore, some people are stuck with expensive adorments stuck on gear that they can no longer use, possibily even adornments that do not align with the new class intended for the gear.</p><p>You may think adornments are cheap, but there are probably a lot of people who don't, may have been affected by this, and would like the oppurtunity to do something useful with the items and adornments they previously valued.</p></blockquote><p>I couldn't agree more - I have unattuned items with adornment in them and I think we should get a chance to remove adorned. I would like to see them have an unadorn potion or something similar to what was in EQ1 for unadorn.</p>

[Lempo]

<p>You had a chance to remove adornments it expired.</p>

[cawalton]

<p><cite>Zaktull@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Chaosonia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Same thing just happened to me.  Logged in my alt to find all of her adornments are still on her gear. I didn't realize that we had a set limit of time (one day???) to log our characters in for their equipment to un-adorn.</p></blockquote><p>It was never announced like that, the reason for this mess is entirely the fact that the first unattuned was botched BUT it did pop off adorns, so they did a second round however that round did not pop off adorns.</p><p>Leaving people who did NOT login cheated <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>actually, the second round of unattuning did pop adorns off for gear that was equipped, it was the third, final unattuning that did not pop adorns off</p><p>I was able to get all my gear slot items un-adorned for both the 1st & 2nd rounds (got a bunch of lower gear level ones returned) but the 3rd did not pop adorns, only unattune.</p><p>I think everyone should have had at least one round of adorns popping-off and maybe the third round would have been the most widely accessible if the window didnt close, considering you really had to plan your way thru the mess to take advantage of the circumstances otherwise, and of course login 3 distinct times</p>

[0ppression]

<p>For folks who completely missed the fiasco of GU61 release (work/travel), they now only have a one time shot to unattune the gear ONLY. They don't get the chance to remove the adorns. So now, all that unattuned gear is sitting there with adornments still in them.</p><p>I don't understand why you gave us a one time shot to only unattune and not pop the adorns off at the same time. It should be both.</p>