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thegriss
08-25-2011, 01:07 PM
<ul><li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Melee Priests</span>: With all these changes, what is being done for the melee priest option? Roughly half of the priests subclasses have Melee Tuned AA (look at Wardens for example) but there is no gear to  support this play style. With Spell auto attack being added this marginalizes this playstyle even more.</li></ul><li><span style="color: #ff0000;">This reitemize keeps melee priests in mind by offering them melee stats along with the spell attack counterparts.</span> <ul><li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Spell Auto Attack</span>:  <ul><li>Can we get a better feel for the items going in? Right now it's hard tell what the actual effect is going to be since we can only get a few legendary wands. </li><li>Is there going to be any adjustments on existing gear for Spell Auto Attack or will this all be found on new gear</li></ul></li></ul></li><li><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Since Velious items are not being updated the new auto attack stats will not appear on them. POW items will have the stats as well as any old world updated items</span></span></span></strong></li><p> Does this mean that there is no intention to update mage/priest secondary/ranged DOV items or does it mean you guys have not gotten to it yet.  So many mixed Dev post about this GU.</p>

Talathion
08-25-2011, 01:08 PM
<p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p>

Sigmaz01
08-25-2011, 01:11 PM
<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest. It is really stupid to see the stat added to all of the old gear then go into gear progression and not see it until planes of war or new gu 61 quest rewards and leave half or more of velious without the stat.</p>

thegriss
08-25-2011, 01:13 PM
<p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest.</p></blockquote><p>Not me give me my melee stats so I can use my giant 2h hammer of inquisitorial face smashing to its full effect.</p>

Talathion
08-25-2011, 01:15 PM
<p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest. It is really stupid to see the stat added to all of the old gear then go into gear progression and not see it until planes of war or new gu 61 quest rewards and leave half or more of velious without the stat.</p></blockquote><p>You will lose DPS from your spells and from your groups buffs.</p>

Slowin
08-25-2011, 01:15 PM
<p>they really need to just merge spell auto attack with melee auto attack if they're gonna implement it at all... adding separate stats is just a mess at this point.</p>

Sigmaz01
08-25-2011, 01:18 PM
<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest. It is really stupid to see the stat added to all of the old gear then go into gear progression and not see it until planes of war or new gu 61 quest rewards and leave half or more of velious without the stat.</p></blockquote><p>You will lose DPS from your spells and from your groups buffs.</p></blockquote><p>How so? last time i checked spell auto attack does not need to be timed.</p>

thegriss
08-25-2011, 01:20 PM
<p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest. It is really stupid to see the stat added to all of the old gear then go into gear progression and not see it until planes of war or new gu 61 quest rewards and leave half or more of velious without the stat.</p></blockquote><p>You will lose DPS from your spells and from your groups buffs.</p></blockquote><p>How so? last time i checked spell auto attack does not need to be timed.</p></blockquote><p>By down grading a raid ranged item to and Lego quested or Old world drop you would be losing those stats not to mention a war rune slot.</p>

Talathion
08-25-2011, 01:21 PM
<p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest. It is really stupid to see the stat added to all of the old gear then go into gear progression and not see it until planes of war or new gu 61 quest rewards and leave half or more of velious without the stat.</p></blockquote><p>You will lose DPS from your spells and from your groups buffs.</p></blockquote><p>How so? last time i checked spell auto attack does not need to be timed.</p></blockquote><p>100 DPS, 100 Haste, 50% Multi-Attack From Group/raid Buffs, Needing to be close to the mob to use AOE spells.</p><p>Thats why.</p><p>Hitting for 13-18k Every 3 Seconds Offers more DPS then hitting 1-3k every 5.9 Seconds.</p>

Sigmaz01
08-25-2011, 01:24 PM
<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sigmaz01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Autoattack is kind of bad, and Melee DPS is better DPS, any real mage will still melee.</p></blockquote><p>Does not mean they should not update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats. I rather be range than to go in and melee to be honest. It is really stupid to see the stat added to all of the old gear then go into gear progression and not see it until planes of war or new gu 61 quest rewards and leave half or more of velious without the stat.</p></blockquote><p>You will lose DPS from your spells and from your groups buffs.</p></blockquote><p>How so? last time i checked spell auto attack does not need to be timed.</p></blockquote><p>100 DPS, 100 Haste, 50% Multi-Attack From Group/raid Buffs, Needing to be close to the mob to use AOE spells.</p><p>Thats why.</p></blockquote><p>You can use spell auto attack in melee range as well so thats not gonna be a problem for using close range spells. As a mage most of the time (and i mean for HM raiding) you will be range rather then be in melee range so spell auto attack would be better in most cases. Those melee auto attack buffs should be converted to apply for both spell and melee auto attack but im sure that may not happen. Im sure if we got the spell auto attack stats on DoV gear it would roughly hit for 6k-8k and delay would be lowered by a decent amount.</p>

thegriss
08-25-2011, 01:47 PM
<p> <strong>ITEMS</strong></p><ul><li>All group/raid dungeon items have been reitemized except for Velious group/raid dungeons.</li></ul><p>Fresh from the official patch notes.  Guess they decided to go ahead and not fix the DOV gear. </p>

thegriss
08-25-2011, 01:56 PM
<p>A simple yes, no or maybe would even suffice. Is there any plan to change these items or are they just being totally ignored.</p>