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SgtPmpkn

08-25-2011, 11:29 AM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>All SF Raid gear is better then PQ/DoV Heroic Gear.</blockquote>Where it should be. There were very few instances in EQ2 since launch, where top end prior expansion raid gear was trumped by quested items 2mins within the next expansion. It should have been this way from the start of DoV, where raiders who had the final items of the prior expac went directly into raid gear from the current expac.This history of gear progression didnt disrupt anyone's playstyle and worked. Somehow we got sidetracked along the way, but it might be too late for those of us who muted most, if not all SF raid gear from RT4 and UFD.

Bremer

08-25-2011, 11:30 AM

If they would only spend the same amount of time to fix Velious gear.

Talathion

08-25-2011, 11:34 AM

You should see UFD gear, it has more CM/Potency then EMx4 gear.And the boots have that + Fatal Lifetap III! pretty cool!<img src="http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8379/soniamproud.jpg" width="643" height="387" />

Poypoyking

08-25-2011, 11:42 AM

Now if we could buy back the gear that was muted 6 months ago... I guess there will be some UD runs coming up.

Talathion

08-25-2011, 11:43 AM

<cite>Pejhaar@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Now if we could buy back the gear that was muted 6 months ago... I guess there will be some UD runs coming up.</blockquote>UD might be fun for a change! a hard raid instance!

Cratoh

08-25-2011, 11:44 AM

<cite>SgtPmpkn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>All SF Raid gear is better then PQ/DoV Heroic Gear.</blockquote>Where it should be. There were very few instances in EQ2 since launch, where top end prior expansion raid gear was trumped by quested items 2mins within the next expansion. It should have been this way from the start of DoV, where raiders who had the final items of the prior expac went directly into raid gear from the current expac.This history of gear progression didnt disrupt anyone's playstyle and worked. Somehow we got sidetracked along the way, but it might be too late for those of us who muted most, if not all SF raid gear from RT4 and UFD.</blockquote>This. What a pile of crap. They need to unlock gear on shady swashbuckler. Months and months spent raiding to see it beaten by crappy DoV quested/pq/dungeon, now a reversal.

Talathion

08-25-2011, 11:46 AM

<cite>Cratoh wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>SgtPmpkn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>All SF Raid gear is better then PQ/DoV Heroic Gear.</blockquote>Where it should be. There were very few instances in EQ2 since launch, where top end prior expansion raid gear was trumped by quested items 2mins within the next expansion. It should have been this way from the start of DoV, where raiders who had the final items of the prior expac went directly into raid gear from the current expac.This history of gear progression didnt disrupt anyone's playstyle and worked. Somehow we got sidetracked along the way, but it might be too late for those of us who muted most, if not all SF raid gear from RT4 and UFD.</blockquote>This. What a pile of crap. They need to unlock gear on shady swashbuckler. Months and months spent raiding to see it beaten by crappy DoV quested/pq/dungeon, now a reversal. </blockquote>Just PUG it.

thegriss

08-25-2011, 12:09 PM

Still really backwards that DOV gear wasnt fixed 1st. Whoever made that call seriously needs to learn customer relations skills.

Talathion

08-25-2011, 12:10 PM

<cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Still really backwards that DOV gear wasnt fixed 1st. Whoever made that call seriously needs to learn customer relations skills.</blockquote>Well now we have doubled the raids/dungeons we can run and we won't be as bored.

Trensharo

08-25-2011, 12:18 PM

Is Lifeburn stacking on Test Server? They fixed Plaguebringer, but there's no mention of Lifeburn...Or were people too busy crying about low level items and pet SDA instead?

p3t3rl1

08-25-2011, 12:18 PM

UD gear should not be better than EM x4 stuff. This is f'ed up.

Talathion

08-25-2011, 12:19 PM

<cite>p3t3rl1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>UD gear should not be better than EM x4 stuff. This is f'ed up. </blockquote>Yes it should, because UD is harder then EM x4.

Trensharo

08-25-2011, 12:19 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Still really backwards that DOV gear wasnt fixed 1st. Whoever made that call seriously needs to learn customer relations skills.</blockquote>Well now we have doubled the raids/dungeons we can run and we won't be as bored.</blockquote>You think people who did SF for almost a year will want to go back and do more SF just cause? Well, maybe upstart guilds that wanna get into raiding, but I was AWOL for most of it and even I don't wanna go back and do that. Raiding SF content is the opposite of progression IMO, especially since it's not even challenging in current gear - unless they retuned the raids so that they aren't faceroll for uber drops.

Gungo

08-25-2011, 12:20 PM

To tell the truth wing 3 is still probably harder then most EM raids for most guilds.

Gungo

08-25-2011, 12:21 PM

<cite>Trenshero@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Still really backwards that DOV gear wasnt fixed 1st. Whoever made that call seriously needs to learn customer relations skills.</blockquote>Well now we have doubled the raids/dungeons we can run and we won't be as bored.</blockquote>You think people who did SF for almost a year will want to go back and do more SF just cause? Well, maybe upstart guilds that wanna get into raiding, but I was AWOL for most of it and even I don't wanna go back and do that. Raiding SF content is the opposite of progression IMO, especially since it's not even challenging in current gear - unless they retuned the raids so that they aren't faceroll for uber drops.</blockquote>most of the dov easy raids ARE faceroll for easy drops.

thegriss

08-25-2011, 12:23 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Still really backwards that DOV gear wasnt fixed 1st. Whoever made that call seriously needs to learn customer relations skills.</blockquote>Well now we have doubled the raids/dungeons we can run and we won't be as bored.</blockquote>I could care less about Heroic content. I like to raid and NOTHING was done for DOV raid gear. They Nerfed some EM/HM x4 content and im good with that but could they really justify a new raid zone thats harder than the existing raid zones that almost no one can clear? I was thrilled when I heard Melee priest where finally getting some gear love and then uber mad to find out they where not adding to DOV gear lol. A few people /cried about low level gear being out of line with the new game mechanics and they honestly listened and fixed that gear before touching DOV. I mean who made that call? You guys can adjust 50k items but can go back and fix mage/priest DOV range/secondary items???

JazzMaus

08-25-2011, 12:30 PM

<cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could care less about Heroic content. I like to raid and NOTHING was done for DOV raid gear. </blockquote>I'm a totally casual non-raider -- in fact, I loathe raiding -- & I endorse Sorvex's comments. "End-game" re-itemization should have been done first, because lowbie casual soloists like me simply don't need any item lovin' to get us through to SF/DoV content.Like I said in another thread: as a 36 Troubie, I'm already blasting my way through Zek/EL/Steamfont. I don't need things to be made any easier.

Raviel

08-25-2011, 12:35 PM

its okay, unbunch your collective panties people, UFD loot is still completely ruined by this update and is now statted worse than kael heroic gear<img src="http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/Raviel1/EQ2_000009-1.png" />anyone who thinks this trash is better than dov em needs their head checked. wtb a rollback on this gear

thegriss

08-25-2011, 12:35 PM

<cite>JazzMaus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could care less about Heroic content. I like to raid and NOTHING was done for DOV raid gear. </blockquote>I'm a totally casual non-raider -- in fact, I loathe raiding -- & I endorse Sorvex's comments. "End-game" re-itemization should have been done first, because lowbie casual soloists like me simply don't need any item lovin' to get us through to SF/DoV content.Like I said in another thread: as a 36 Troubie, I'm already blasting my way through Zek/EL/Steamfont. I don't need things to be made any easier.</blockquote>Im glad they fixed the low end gear because I have low end alts as well. I just dont see how they could do this mass reitemization and not touch mage/priest secondary/ranged and use the excuse that they didnt have time to get it in.... I mean im sure there was plenty of time wasted on this new BL prelude quest, House rating system and the new plane of war thats going to be a ghost town of a raid zones for 90% of the raiding guild in the game. But hey SJ and his priorities...

Wilin

08-25-2011, 12:45 PM

<cite>Raviel wrote:</cite><blockquote>its okay, unbunch your collective panties people, UFD loot is still completely ruined by this update and is now statted worse than kael heroic gear<img src="http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/Raviel1/EQ2_000009-1.png" />anyone who thinks this trash is better than dov em needs their head checked. wtb a rollback on this gear</blockquote>Wow, it should be on par with kael or even drunder heroic gear. It's basically PQ quality with a proc. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />

ZUES

08-25-2011, 12:47 PM

<cite>p3t3rl1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>UD gear should not be better than EM x4 stuff. This is f'ed up. </blockquote>It's now very close to DoV EM stats but with nice procs. So until your in HM gear the SF raid gear is the way to go I suppose. Mark gear is actually better than PQ gear now./lfg any SF raid

thegriss

08-25-2011, 12:47 PM

<ul><li>Melee Priests: With all these changes, what is being done for the melee priest option? Roughly half of the priests subclasses have Melee Tuned AA (look at Wardens for example) but there is no gear to support this play style. With Spell auto attack being added this marginalizes this playstyle even more.</li></ul><li>This reitemize keeps melee priests in mind by offering them melee stats along with the spell attack counterparts. (YAY REJOICE!!!!)<ul><li>Spell Auto Attack: <ul><li>Can we get a better feel for the items going in? Right now it's hard tell what the actual effect is going to be since we can only get a few legendary wands. </li><li>Is there going to be any adjustments on existing gear for Spell Auto Attack or will this all be found on new gear</li></ul></li></ul></li><li>Since Velious items are not being updated the new auto attack stats will not appear on them. POW items will have the stats as well as any old world updated items</li>FAIL

Brutalize

08-25-2011, 12:54 PM

It's all nice and stuff that people think UD gear is now better than EM DoV gear, except that it's not. UD gear = no class focus already on it, meaning you have to waste a red adorn on that whereas the DoV gear already has the class focus AND a red adorn. Not to mention, EM DoV gear has slightly more crit mit and more to your primary stats.

thegriss

08-25-2011, 12:55 PM

I see Gninja posting so if you could find it in your heart to come here and tell us why you decided not to update DOV items for priest/mages? And if you plan to or not. If no than I can save my $45 dollars worth of sub fees intil Age of discovery come out in november.

DxPreist1

08-25-2011, 12:56 PM

<cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>They Fixed alot of issues REALLY fast! I am impressed!</blockquote>I know. They did it in the middle of the night I logged in to check a few more thing and the vast majority of Itemization problems were gone. While there were still a lot of issues I was really shocked at how much they eliminated I hade to post a Good Job Thread just because I was amazed at how quickly they managed to address so much of the weirdness.

Wilin

08-25-2011, 12:57 PM

<cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><li>Since Velious items are not being updated the new auto attack stats will not appear on them. POW items will have the stats as well as any old world updated items</li>FAIL</blockquote>QFE

Raviel

08-25-2011, 12:59 PM

mark of manaar gear is on par with 4rt, UFD, and Waansu loot.<img src="http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/Raviel1/EQ2_000011.png" />

Shotneedle

08-25-2011, 01:00 PM

<cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><li>Since Velious items are not being updated the new auto attack stats will not appear on them. POW items will have the stats as well as any old world updated items</li>FAIL</blockquote>QFE</blockquote>Why should it matter? No one will even use spell auto. They added spell auto attack stats but there's only one known wand in game, and it's a piece of dung from a rygorr quest.

Gungo

08-25-2011, 01:01 PM

<cite>Brutalize@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's all nice and stuff that people think UD gear is now better than EM DoV gear, except that it's not. UD gear = no class focus already on it, meaning you have to waste a red adorn on that whereas the DoV gear already has the class focus AND a red adorn. Not to mention, EM DoV gear has slightly more crit mit and more to your primary stats.</blockquote>I think people were more interested in the jewerly which DID have procs unlike the dov gear which DOES NOT With the changes alot of that UD jewler got better.Worst case scenario it becomes situational gear that is not so much of a downgrade such as the immunity proc items.

Wilin

08-25-2011, 01:04 PM

<cite>Buffrat@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><li>Since Velious items are not being updated the new auto attack stats will not appear on them. POW items will have the stats as well as any old world updated items</li>FAIL</blockquote>QFE</blockquote>Why should it matter? No one will even use spell auto. They added spell auto attack stats but there's only one known wand in game, and it's a piece of dung from a rygorr quest.</blockquote>That's a FAIL too. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Sigmaz01

08-25-2011, 01:04 PM

Yea it really does not make sense that they didnt update the current DoV gear with spell auto attack stats...Come on SoE think about it for just 5 mins!

ZUES

08-25-2011, 01:07 PM

<cite>p3t3rl1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>UD gear should not be better than EM x4 stuff. This is f'ed up. </blockquote>Someone was linking a few pieces on test yesterday. The stats are very similar but a little less (125STR/110STA for example. But the PROC!!!!! Man these still have some insane procs on that gear. As mentioned above you still have to add the red adorn for the focus effect. So it might be class specific and slot specific if you choose to "upgrade" from SF.Edit: I'm talking about armor not jewelry. Crit mit looked close to DoV EM gear.

Slowin

08-25-2011, 01:09 PM

Wing 3 UD and 4RT need another pass cause it looks like there is pretty much zero progression in SF now unless that is how they wanted it.Mace of Aereon is identical to the priest Yael weapon.... and 4RT bps are still being treated like t3 gear instead of t4.This update should encourage guilds to clear Wing 3 of UD cause its still has some of the coolest encounters in the game and certainly more difficult than current ezmode content stratwise.

Raviel

08-25-2011, 01:09 PM

<cite>Gungo@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brutalize@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's all nice and stuff that people think UD gear is now better than EM DoV gear, except that it's not. UD gear = no class focus already on it, meaning you have to waste a red adorn on that whereas the DoV gear already has the class focus AND a red adorn. Not to mention, EM DoV gear has slightly more crit mit and more to your primary stats.</blockquote>I think people were more interested in the jewerly which DID have procs unlike the dov gear which DOES NOT With the changes alot of that UD jewler got better.Worst case scenario it becomes situational gear that is not so much of a downgrade such as the immunity proc items.</blockquote>UD jewelry got better? resonating kaborite alloy stud lost 11 cc and MA for 4.7 potency, .7 cb, and 7.6 dps mod. exquisitely formed kaborite bracelet lost 11 ma for 4.7 cb 4.5 reuse and 3.4 dps mod, and the seamless polished gorget lost 6.8 potency, its potency is now pathetic for a necklace. how did jewelry get "better"?

thegriss

08-25-2011, 01:09 PM

<cite>Buffrat@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Sorvex@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><li>Since Velious items are not being updated the new auto attack stats will not appear on them. POW items will have the stats as well as any old world updated items</li>FAIL</blockquote>QFE</blockquote>Why should it matter? No one will even use spell auto. They added spell auto attack stats but there's only one known wand in game, and it's a piece of dung from a rygorr quest.</blockquote>Im an inquisitor so I could give a flying crap about Spell auto. But saying they are adding melee stats for priest to the game and not itemizing it for the current expansion is fail.