EQII Lore: The Prophecy - wat?

[RoninSenshi]

<p>Read this:</p><p><a href="http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/4037" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/4037</a></p><p>"You do listen!" She smiled. "That's right. Lucan D'Lere. He found Aeteok still gripped within the dead hands of the Avatar of War. How the Avatar was destroyed, there is no tale, but <strong>Lucan dubbed the sword ‘Soulfire' and used its powers to found Freeport, establish himself as Overlord, and live a very long life for a human."</strong></p><p>Freeport was founded before it was ever attacked by The Avatar of War during the War of Defiance.. And Lucan had the Soulfire before even that, right? I mean that was the first real Epic quest in EQ1, even before Kunark Paladins could get the Soulfire sword.</p><p>I through the story was that Lucan had the soulfire, lost it, and got it back after the War of Defiance from the Avatar of War's defeat. I'm pretty sure he didn't get the sword and suddendly found Freeport, because the city was already there and it was torn between the Freeport Milita (Lucan's loyalists) and the Order of Marr (The original rulers of Freeport and the Paladin order that Lucan belonged to before he became all evil like). He was already undead before the War of Defiance, anyway.</p><p>Oh, and by the way..</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNr2QKWPC4&feature=feedu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNr...p;feature=feedu</a></p><p><img src="http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4783/onlythedeadgirl.jpg" /></p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">You have to remember this is from the point of view of the Dame Othmir Shaman, she may have a few facts off.  however the essentials are there. </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Hmm I wonder if Theer will be appointing mortals to do tasks in the name(?) of the Nameless </span><span style="color: #00cc00;">(</span><span style="color: #00cc00;">as a Diety one can dream)</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

Every story has a perspective. I find it hard to believe that this Othmir Shaman has her facts straight. From a universal standpoint, the only time Lucan took the Soulfire from the Avatar of War was at the end of the 2nd Rallosian War. Othmir only live to be about... what, 100 at most? I forget, how old is Nipik when he finally passes on? Anyways, transferring history by word of mouth makes it very easy for details to be misinterpreted and lost, especially for a race who's current citizens were not alive back then, and considering that 90% of the race was lost in the cataclysms because barely anyone took Nipik's prophecies to heart. What I think is happening, is that the Othmir don't know about the actual details of the 2nd Rallosian War, nor did they know that Freeport existed before then. Can someone tell me again how Lucan factored into the Paladin Epic in EQlive? I know you had to kill him, but I don't know why. Didn't he have the Soulfire blade or something?

[KniteShayd]

<p>Wasn't it that he had it, but didn't fully realize it's power that early on?... And isn't that part of what kept him alive from the fact that you killed him, other than Necromancy?</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Rivald@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Freeport was founded before it was ever attacked by The Avatar of War during the War of Defiance.. And Lucan had the Soulfire before even that, right? I mean that was the first real Epic quest in EQ1, even before Kunark Paladins could get the Soulfire sword.</p><p>I through the story was that Lucan had the soulfire, lost it, and got it back after the War of Defiance from the Avatar of War's defeat. I'm pretty sure he didn't get the sword and suddendly found Freeport, because the city was already there and it was torn between the Freeport Milita (Lucan's loyalists) and the Order of Marr (The original rulers of Freeport and the Paladin order that Lucan belonged to before he became all evil like). He was already undead before the War of Defiance, anyway.</p></blockquote><p>I think Dame Livik meant Lucan founded the Freeport we know today. Not the way it existed back in EQLive. Back then, Freeport was ruled differently, and was a commercial and academic powerhouse. Now it's under military rule and Lucan's dictatorship. It's no where near the port city it used to be. And its debatable that the Academy of Arcane Science is regarded in the same way it was back then.</p><p>The War of Defiance and the Rallosian Wars are not relevent to the story she is telling. Yes they happened, and the results are partly to blame for where we are in Norrathian history. But for the sake of simplicity, especially to the people who know little of the game's lore and to keep the pups interested, thats too much detail to put in the lore excerpt for the Age's End. She's simply stating he became who he is due to the fact that he possed Soulfire. No need for tangents.</p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p>I can go with that either shes uninformed or trying to keep it simple, I suppose.</p><p>And yes, Lucan founded Freeport as we know it today in EQII, but he did have the Soulfire back then in EQ1. I'm pretty sure Paladins would have to kill him for it.</p>

[Ragnaphore]

<p>In EQ1, Lucan was part of the Soulfire's quest but didn't wield it (you had to kill him to get his Knight of Truth testimony)</p><p><a href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=362">http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/....html?quest=362</a></p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p>Well, suppose that's that then.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Boo, they took the trailer down. I liked it.</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p><cite><a href="mailto:Rivald@Antonia">Rivald@Antonia</a> Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Read this:</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/4037" target="_blank">http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/4037</a></p><p>"You do listen!" She smiled. "That's right. Lucan D'Lere. He found Aeteok still gripped within the dead hands of the Avatar of War. How the Avatar was destroyed, there is no tale, but <strong>Lucan dubbed the sword ‘Soulfire' and used its powers to found Freeport, establish himself as Overlord, and live a very long life for a human."</strong></p><p>Freeport was founded before it was ever attacked by The Avatar of War during the War of Defiance.. And Lucan had the Soulfire before even that, right? I mean that was the first real Epic quest in EQ1, even before Kunark Paladins could get the Soulfire sword.</p><p>I through the story was that Lucan had the soulfire, lost it, and got it back after the War of Defiance from the Avatar of War's defeat. I'm pretty sure he didn't get the sword and suddendly found Freeport, because the city was already there and it was torn between the Freeport Milita (Lucan's loyalists) and the Order of Marr (The original rulers of Freeport and the Paladin order that Lucan belonged to before he became all evil like). He was already undead before the War of Defiance, anyway.</p></blockquote><p>That, that one had me going WT(letter censored, wow...) as well.</p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p>Yeah, I was wrong it seems the story is consistant enough.</p><p>Why they took that trailer down, I dunno. It wasn't a bad trailer.. I'm just odd and the first thing I throught of when Rallos Zek was all "Only the dead see the end of War" was some little girl on a plush horsie.</p>

[Anaogi]

<p>Meh, just chalk it up to Othmir not being omniscient (or entirely specific).</p><p>My old Anashti headache is once more enshrined, though.  The whole Anashti- Ewer- Undeath- Inny- Ydal- Vampirism-Mayong business really needs to be dealt with eventually, lest my inevitable bill for headache remedies I'm sending to the devs start getting out of hand... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Maergoth]

<p>In everquest 1, Valeron Dushire had Soulfire I believe.. and he was guarding it as a Knight of Truth. However, to prove YOU were worthy of protecting it, you had to exact revenge on Lucan for slaying a squire to cut corners in his own initiation.</p><p>Lucan acquired Soulfire for the first time from the Avatar of War, who would have had to obtained it from Valeron, or whichever adventurer he officially passed it on to.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In everquest 1, Valeron Dushire had Soulfire I believe.. and he was guarding it as a Knight of Truth. However, to prove YOU were worthy of protecting it, you had to exact revenge on Lucan for slaying a squire to cut corners in his own initiation.</p><p>Lucan acquired Soulfire for the first time from the Avatar of War, who would have had to obtained it from Valeron, or whichever adventurer he officially passed it on to.</p></blockquote><p>According to Lore Soulfire passed from Valeron to a mysterious paladin (see player) who lost it in the Plane of Fear. How the Soulfire blade made its way into the Avatar of War's hands is debatable. Also how it became a one handed non-flaming sword is questionable as well but lets nitpick every little detail since that is what we do around here, right?</p><p>Probably Soulfire managed to be brought to the Temple of Cazic Thule and was claimed by the Avatar of War when the temple was sacked. Sometimes late at night I fear Cazic is going to sick the Greenmist on me because of how much time I spent farming his temple but I guess he can excuse that. Probably because I am afraid of the concequences?</p><p>He also declaired himself Overlord of Freeport before the war of defiance. It was during the war of defiance that Lucan finally managed to wipe out the Order of Marr...when they came to save Freeport from the Rallosian Army.</p>