Just Remove Spell Autoattack.

[Talathion]

<p>Its a Very bad mechanic and not worth itemizing and will cause nothing but Lag and dissapointment.</p><p>it would be easier to increase the range of melee attack from mages and give them they're own weapon animations.</p><p>Cast While Moving - Bust, it was buggy and did not really work at all, and snared you.</p><p>Spell Autoattack - Bust, will just cause lag and real mages will still use melee because it does alot more damage.</p><p>Spell Double Attack - Bust, it just cluttered up alot of items and ruined every secondary item and shield in the game.</p><p>Just Revoke these changes and focus on something else.</p><p>If Mages Want Spell Autoattack, I can implement it:</p><p>Level 1 Buff all Mages get.</p><p>Lowers Autoattack Modifier by 1.0</p><p>Increases Melee Range of Caster by 300%</p><p>Changes the Melee Animations of Caster to look like hes flinging spells.</p><p>((easy, and it won't break itemization or ruin anything!))</p>

[Griffinhart]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Double Attack - Bust, it just cluttered up alot of items and ruined every secondary item and shield in the game.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not going to bother commenting on most of your post, but you do realize Spell Double Attack has been in game for 3 years now, right?</p>

[Amanathia]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Double Attack - Bust, it just cluttered up alot of items and ruined every secondary item and shield in the game.</p></blockquote><p>What?  Spell Double Attack is awesome.</p>

[Maergoth]

<p>Additionally, that IS what they are doing for mages. It's just a different animation and long range melee. You should probably look into this stuff before you throw your hands up into the air.</p><p>Also, snared cast while moving works fine, I don't know what you're complaining about.</p>

[Talathion]

<p><cite>Griffinhart wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Double Attack - Bust, it just cluttered up alot of items and ruined every secondary item and shield in the game.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not going to bother commenting on most of your post, but you do realize Spell Double Attack has been in game for 3 years now, right?</p></blockquote><p>You mean "Spell Doublecast" I was referring to spell double attack, the new stat which is like Melee Multi-Attack, which when added, broke every single secondary/shield available...</p><p>If you actually tested you would know this.</p>

[Griffinhart]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Griffinhart wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Double Attack - Bust, it just cluttered up alot of items and ruined every secondary item and shield in the game.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not going to bother commenting on most of your post, but you do realize Spell Double Attack has been in game for 3 years now, right?</p></blockquote><p>You mean "Spell Doublecast" I was referring to spell double attack, the new stat which is like Melee Multi-Attack, which when added, broke every single secondary/shield available...</p><p>If you actually tested you would know this.</p></blockquote><p>It has been called Spell Double Attack or spell multi-attack since it was added in 3 years ago.  Not spell doublecast.  Plus, if you already stated that you feel they should remove spell auto-attack, that means all mechanics surrounding it too.  So the natural conclusion one has when specifically mentioning the removal of "Spell Double Attack" is actual spell double attack. </p><p>I have also been testing things and if you actually read my post, I wasn't making any other comments other than the fact that Spell double attack has been in game for 3 years.</p>

[Talathion]

<p><cite>Griffinhart wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Griffinhart wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spell Double Attack - Bust, it just cluttered up alot of items and ruined every secondary item and shield in the game.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not going to bother commenting on most of your post, but you do realize Spell Double Attack has been in game for 3 years now, right?</p></blockquote><p>You mean "Spell Doublecast" I was referring to spell double attack, the new stat which is like Melee Multi-Attack, which when added, broke every single secondary/shield available...</p><p>If you actually tested you would know this.</p></blockquote><p>It has been called Spell Double Attack or spell multi-attack since it was added in 3 years ago.  Not spell doublecast.  Plus, if you already stated that you feel they should remove spell auto-attack, that means all mechanics surrounding it too.  So the natural conclusion one has when specifically mentioning the removal of "Spell Double Attack" is actual spell double attack. </p><p>I have also been testing things and if you actually read my post, I wasn't making any other comments other than the fact that Spell double attack has been in game for 3 years.</p></blockquote><p>Well On test "which this is for" its now called Spell Doublecast, and you called me out on me being misinformed about Spell Doubleattack, so I corrected you on its now proper term, you said Spell Double Attack was their for 3 years, but infact the "new spell double attack" when it was implemented, broke all shields/secondarys, of course if you tested you would actually know this.</p>

[Necroponic]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>infact the "new spell double attack" when it was implemented, broke all shields/secondarys, of course if you tested you would actually know this.</p></blockquote><p>it may or may not have broken the sheilds and symbols. I have heard two different things reqarding this.</p><p>1. the changed stats on the symbols and sheilds will change sometimes when you log on and off the test server.</p><p>2. I have also heard there is another patch coming soon thats going to change stats on even more items.</p><p>but for the most part, since the stats fluctuate. the sheilds and symbols are probably glitched (this patch did come out right after/during the fix when all the AA's were mixed with beastlord.</p>

[Talathion]

<p><cite>Necroponic wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>infact the "new spell double attack" when it was implemented, broke all shields/secondarys, of course if you tested you would actually know this.</p></blockquote><p>it may or may not have broken the sheilds and symbols. I have heard two different things reqarding this.</p><p>1. the changed stats on the symbols and sheilds will change sometimes when you log on and off the test server.</p><p>2. I have also heard there is another patch coming soon thats going to change stats on even more items.</p><p>but for the most part, since the stats fluctuate. the sheilds and symbols are probably glitched (this patch did come out right after/during the fix when all the AA's were mixed with beastlord.</p></blockquote><p>only because this useless **** was implemented was this broke, you could of done everything with what I posted above, just make it a buff that lowers your autoattack damage/raises your range alot.</p><p>Now you have this useless **** that nobody will use because it does no DPS and will just cause lag and break a bunch of items, grats.</p><p>Mages will still melee autoattack for DPS in Raids, and groups.</p>

[Necroponic]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Necroponic wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>infact the "new spell double attack" when it was implemented, broke all shields/secondarys, of course if you tested you would actually know this.</p></blockquote><p>it may or may not have broken the sheilds and symbols. I have heard two different things reqarding this.</p><p>1. the changed stats on the symbols and sheilds will change sometimes when you log on and off the test server.</p><p>2. I have also heard there is another patch coming soon thats going to change stats on even more items.</p><p>but for the most part, since the stats fluctuate. the sheilds and symbols are probably glitched (this patch did come out right after/during the fix when all the AA's were mixed with beastlord.</p></blockquote><p>only because this useless **** was implemented was this broke, you could of done everything with what I posted above, just make it a buff that lowers your autoattack damage/raises your range alot.</p><p>Now you have this useless **** that nobody will use because it does no DPS and will just cause lag and break a bunch of items, grats.</p></blockquote><p>yes right now the ranged auto is pretty useless.....I'm hopeing the fabled wands will hit much harder than this starter junk one. even changing one of the symbols we have currently into a fabled wand would have been more helpfull (although very tricky, if they went that rout). they added 4 or so more stats just for it, so I am doubting they are just gonna toss it.</p><p>on test the spell auto for me only does about 1,000-3,000 every 6 seconds.......so the quest wand should at least have more crit on it and a yellow slot and have a little bit better dmg as a weapon. (other wise it STARTS OUT like a nerf if your a raider and it starts out like an upgrade if your a casual).</p>

[feldon30]

Threads started by Talathion shouldn't even get a reply.

[theriatis]

<p>I'm also with Remove Spell Autoattack.</p><p>Gimme some big nukes where i have actually punch buttons, thanks.</p><p>I want those Epics getting their behinds fireballed or Icenovaed, not spell-autoattacked.</p><p>But it's just me, so... i'll stick with what i have and just ignore SAA, everyone else can use it.</p>

[threat111]

<p>Great Idea remove all the lazy attacks.</p><p>Remove ALL passive attacks.</p><p>Remove auto melee attack</p><p>Remove spell auto attack</p><p>If you attack an NPC it should be with the click of a button, not afk auto's.</p>

[NardacMM]

<p>They know it's going to cause massive lag, so they are nerfing the 0.1% of melees who have MA above 500%.... I really don't think it's going to help.. This is obviously going to be a disaster.</p><p>I agree with Talathion's subject line..</p>

[feldon30]

<p><cite>Deverel@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>they are nerfing the 0.1% of melees who have MA above 500%</p></blockquote><p>600%</p>

[Gaige]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Deverel@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>they are nerfing the 0.1% of melees who have MA above 500%</p></blockquote><p>600%</p></blockquote><p>Which is still easily reachable in DoV launch HM gear prior to the stat inflation about to take place with GU61.  I have a feeling it'll be reachable in EM gear post GU.</p>