Sigh... Mirrors are Still Lore?

[Liyle]

<p>Just wanted a little whine with my cheez... I had hoped that with all the enlightened-ness surrounding alts and Heirloom that the Mirror of Reflected Achievements had FINALLY gotten changed, but nope! Is there any good reason this hasn't been done? 8^(</p><p>We rerolled on a more active server and it's like... you have got to be kidding! I can't make the mirror for my guys, only everybody else??? I hadn't planned to grind TS faction on my adventuring toon since I've got her in a purposefully slow leveling lore-hunter guild and my 90 crafter with faction doesn't really need it! GRRRR!</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p><cite>Liyle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just wanted a little whine with my cheez... I had hoped that with all the enlightened-ness surrounding alts and Heirloom that the Mirror of Reflected Achievements had FINALLY gotten changed, but nope! Is there any good reason this hasn't been done? 8^(</p><p>We rerolled on a more active server and it's like... you have got to be kidding! I can't make the mirror for my guys, only everybody else??? I hadn't planned to grind TS faction on my adventuring toon since I've got her in a purposefully slow leveling lore-hunter guild and my 90 crafter with faction doesn't really need it! GRRRR!</p></blockquote><p>Aye, I'd really like to see them made heirloom.  They can keep the lore-placed flag if they feel the need (although I understand with multiple housing that it is somewhat redundant), but the changes to AAs are really going to make people want to use mirrors more in my opinion, and it would be very helpful if they were heirloom.</p>

[Rijacki]

<p>Part of the problem might be that they're not equipped items. The heirloom tag + lore-equipped wouldn't be applicable. Currently there is no lore-placeable tag probably partly because there isn't a "attune" function for a domicile like the attuned for equip. Heirloom alone allows mulitples of an item, nothing to restrict the placement of just one per domicile.</p><p>There also isn't any crafted item, at this time, which 'contains' another item. Otherwise it would be a semi-reasonable solution to have a container (i.e. examine to 'unpack'<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> for the mirror which could be heirloom leaving the mirror itself as lore no trade.</p>

[feldon30]

<p>Having AA mirrors set LORE NO-TRADE just adds extra tedious workarounds for players to do what they want. It's not preventing anything.</p><p>I have to pay a crafter to make AA mirrors for me even though I already have 2 toons with the necessary faction. Further I have to make multiple trips to that crafter to get more than one mirror as they are LORE. The crafter has to make the mirrors one-at-a-time so I can travel to my house, place it, and then track down the crafter again.</p>

[Tigress]

<p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Part of the problem might be that they're not equipped items. The heirloom tag + lore-equipped wouldn't be applicable. Currently there is no lore-placeable tag probably partly because there isn't a "attune" function for a domicile like the attuned for equip. Heirloom alone allows mulitples of an item, nothing to restrict the placement of just one per domicile.</p><p>There also isn't any crafted item, at this time, which 'contains' another item. Otherwise it would be a semi-reasonable solution to have a container (i.e. examine to 'unpack'<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> for the mirror which could be heirloom leaving the mirror itself as lore no trade.</p></blockquote><p>im confused.  if you can attune heirloom items, like the pocket portals, why cant they attune heirloom aa mirrors?  you can also attune heirloom mounts, which can then be placed in your house.</p>

[Rijacki]

<p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Part of the problem might be that they're not equipped items. The heirloom tag + lore-equipped wouldn't be applicable. Currently there is no lore-placeable tag probably partly because there isn't a "attune" function for a domicile like the attuned for equip. Heirloom alone allows mulitples of an item, nothing to restrict the placement of just one per domicile.</p><p>There also isn't any crafted item, at this time, which 'contains' another item. Otherwise it would be a semi-reasonable solution to have a container (i.e. examine to 'unpack'<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> for the mirror which could be heirloom leaving the mirror itself as lore no trade.</p></blockquote><p>im confused.  if you can attune heirloom items, like the pocket portals, why cant they attune heirloom aa mirrors?  you can also attune heirloom mounts, which can then be placed in your house.</p></blockquote><p>Gear, pocket portals, and mounts all have gear slots even if that slot is optional. Gear slots is where you equip something to attune it. House items do not have a gear slot, they are not attunable.</p><p>A game change made years ago (to make it 'easier' and prevent characters wearing non-attuned items) made it so you cannot attune items in inventory, you have to actually attempt to equip before it will allow you to attune.</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p>Hmm, I wonder if they could make house items that need to be attuneable "equippable" in a charm slot similar to other non-gear items?  Its not much worse having a mirror in your charm slot accidentally than a fishing net or mining pick <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p>

[Liyle]

<p>Maybe they could be made usable by Trustees? The crafting alt could hang it in the adventuring alt's house et voila... problem solved. Sort of like is being done with the portals. Also be nice if they could also be hung in the guild hall for everyone to use prior to raiding and so on.</p>

[SnoesieQ]

<p>Why does it matter if a mirror is attunable? Because of the lore tag you can only place one per house anyway. That is pretty much the same thing as lore-equip.</p><p>They didn't used to be lore, but I seem to remember they still only allowed one character to store a profile on it anyway, so if the concern is that multiple alts would use the same mirror, I don't think it will allow it anyway unless they did more coding changes than just put a lore tag on it when that change went in.</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p><cite>SnoesieQ wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Why does it matter if a mirror is attunable? Because of the lore tag you can only place one per house anyway. That is pretty much the same thing as lore-equip.</p><p>They didn't used to be lore, but I seem to remember they still only allowed one character to store a profile on it anyway, so if the concern is that multiple alts would use the same mirror, I don't think it will allow it anyway unless they did more coding changes than just put a lore tag on it when that change went in.</p></blockquote><p>There was a bug where some people were able to store multiple AA profiles when there were multiple mirrors, so they updated the lore tag for housing and applied it to specific items such as the mirror.  However, with multiple housing now we can apparently have a mirror in more than one house, so perhaps they could just do away with the lore tag entirely.  If not, the thought was making them attuneable might get around the issue of not being able to make furniture heirloom and lore.</p>