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Puria

08-01-2011, 08:07 AM

Hello,I used to play EQ2 in 2007 quite a bit and now I'd like to come back, but I am really confused. I did try to download the EQ2E and there only was one server - Freeport, and I remember that I used to play on Runnyeye. Then I found out that there are two separate games - EverQuest 2 Live and EverQuest 2 Extended, so I have found out the DVD-ROM of my EQ2 base game + Kingdom of Sky expansion, and it looks like I have the old game finally, but I still have many questions.1.) After launching the game, it wants me to login. Does it mean I will be charged for 15 dollars monthly fees? Today I leave to Greece and I wanted to play a bit before I leave, so I guess that I won't be able to play.2.) Also I remember that I only own this Kingdom of Sky expansion on DVD-ROM, but I also bought the Echoes of Faydwer and Desert of Flames ones digitally. If I will pay for EQ2 Live monthly, will I use the Gold subscription and therefore will I get the remaining expansions for free, or do EQ2L and EQ2E have different subscriptions?3.) Do people still play EQ2 Live or did everyone move to EQ2E? Specially on Runnyeye? I mostly solo, but sometimes I really need to interact with people.4.) And if EQ2 Live is dead, is there any way to move my characters to EQ2E? With or without paying? And will my characters still remain on Runnyeye after so many years of not playing?Sorry for so many questions, but i am really confused. Thanks for the answers beforehand.

retro_guy

08-01-2011, 08:28 AM

<cite>Puria wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hello,I used to play EQ2 in 2007 quite a bit and now I'd like to come back, but I am really confused. I did try to download the EQ2E and there only was one server - Freeport, and I remember that I used to play on Runnyeye. Then I found out that there are two separate games - EverQuest 2 Live and EverQuest 2 Extended, so I have found out the DVD-ROM of my EQ2 base game + Kingdom of Sky expansion, and it looks like I have the old game finally, but I still have many questions.1.) After launching the game, it wants me to login. Does it mean I will be charged for 15 dollars monthly fees? Today I leave to Greece and I wanted to play a bit before I leave, so I guess that I won't be able to play.2.) Also I remember that I only own this Kingdom of Sky expansion on DVD-ROM, but I also bought the Echoes of Faydwer and Desert of Flames ones digitally. If I will pay for EQ2 Live monthly, will I use the Gold subscription and therefore will I get the remaining expansions for free, or do EQ2L and EQ2E have different subscriptions?3.) Do people still play EQ2 Live or did everyone move to EQ2E? Specially on Runnyeye? I mostly solo, but sometimes I really need to interact with people.4.) And if EQ2 Live is dead, is there any way to move my characters to EQ2E? With or without paying? And will my characters still remain on Runnyeye after so many years of not playing?Sorry for so many questions, but i am really confused. Thanks for the answers beforehand.</blockquote>I'll answer your questions as best I can, I'm sure others will have more to say too.The live servers are still alive and some would say the only place to play. The extended servers are also very busy (so I've heard) but they are free, and to get anything good, e.g. able to trade and talk to other players you have to upgrade the account and infact it would cost more on Xtended to get the same game as on the live servers.You should try logging into your old account, if your account has expired it won't let you and you'll need to go and subscribe for a month. But I believe you'll find you have 45 days free sitting there - we all got it because of the SOE hack and subsequent server downtime. So so try logging into you old account and after the 45 days are past you can resub then if you want.All your characters will be still there, they don't delete characters. Once you log in you'll be up for a very big download to patch so be prepared for that. EQ2 is huge now and you'll see a lot of changes since 2007!Alternatively if you want to try and get a bit of gaming in before you go away have a search for the Streaming Client for EQ2 live - it will get you underway very quickly.Characters can be moved to Extended but it costs.

TSR-JoshuaM

08-01-2011, 12:29 PM

deadcrickets2

08-01-2011, 02:04 PM

<cite>retro_guy wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Puria wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hello,I used to play EQ2 in 2007 quite a bit and now I'd like to come back, but I am really confused. I did try to download the EQ2E and there only was one server - Freeport, and I remember that I used to play on Runnyeye. Then I found out that there are two separate games - EverQuest 2 Live and EverQuest 2 Extended, so I have found out the DVD-ROM of my EQ2 base game + Kingdom of Sky expansion, and it looks like I have the old game finally, but I still have many questions.1.) After launching the game, it wants me to login. Does it mean I will be charged for 15 dollars monthly fees? Today I leave to Greece and I wanted to play a bit before I leave, so I guess that I won't be able to play.2.) Also I remember that I only own this Kingdom of Sky expansion on DVD-ROM, but I also bought the Echoes of Faydwer and Desert of Flames ones digitally. If I will pay for EQ2 Live monthly, will I use the Gold subscription and therefore will I get the remaining expansions for free, or do EQ2L and EQ2E have different subscriptions?3.) Do people still play EQ2 Live or did everyone move to EQ2E? Specially on Runnyeye? I mostly solo, but sometimes I really need to interact with people.4.) And if EQ2 Live is dead, is there any way to move my characters to EQ2E? With or without paying? And will my characters still remain on Runnyeye after so many years of not playing?Sorry for so many questions, but i am really confused. Thanks for the answers beforehand.</blockquote>I'll answer your questions as best I can, I'm sure others will have more to say too.The live servers are still alive and some would say the only place to play. The extended servers are also very busy (so I've heard) but they are free, and to get anything good, e.g. able to trade and talk to other players you have to upgrade the account and infact it would cost more on Xtended to get the same game as on the live servers.You should try logging into your old account, if your account has expired it won't let you and you'll need to go and subscribe for a month. But I believe you'll find you have 45 days free sitting there - we all got it because of the SOE hack and subsequent server downtime. So so try logging into you old account and after the 45 days are past you can resub then if you want.All your characters will be still there, they don't delete characters. Once you log in you'll be up for a very big download to patch so be prepared for that. EQ2 is huge now and you'll see a lot of changes since 2007!Alternatively if you want to try and get a bit of gaming in before you go away have a search for the Streaming Client for EQ2 live - it will get you underway very quickly.Characters can be moved to Extended but it costs.</blockquote>One minor correction as it can be cheaper on Extended due to the way Platinum is setup. You pay $200 (USD) for a year's worth of game time which unlocks everything. It will include any expansions released during that time plus 500sc per month. This works out to $9.16 per month if you do the math on it.If you ever stop paying for Gold or Platinum you still have access to your characters and can keep playing.Either side is good. It's really up to you. Just remember that Extended is a newer server and you have many more lower level groups.

Puria

08-16-2011, 03:01 PM

Hello all, today I came back from Greece. Thanks everyone for the answers. So if I understand right, EverQuest 2 Live and Everquest 2 Extended are two games, what are completely same, but its's subscriptions differ. On Live you need to pay just to be able to play the game, but on Extended you'll get all the expansions if you pay for the Gold subscription. If I want to play on Live, I need to buy the missing expansions, however on Extended I need to move the characters if I want to play with them. Please correct me if I am wrong. Now the question: How much does the transfering of each character cost? I think I want to play on Extended, although the free 45 days of Live are tempting, but I do want to start playing from the beginning to get to know the game before I jump back to my old characters. The Extended should offer me the base of lower leveled players and the bigger community ahead of Bronze/Silver players. I still don't know how long I'll stick with this game and 200 dollars are quite some money for me, so for now I am not really thinking about the Platinum subscription yet. And the second question is: Which of the European and American Extended server (or servers, in Europe I have seen just one - Freeport) is more popular? If more people play on American, how can the longer connection express considereing I live in the Czech Republic? Thanks beforehand again.

TSR-JoshuaM

08-16-2011, 03:13 PM

For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport. For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both. You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.

Peogia

08-16-2011, 04:36 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport. For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both. You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.</blockquote><div>If I moved from live to eq2x would I still have access to everything I had in live like classes races and all with no limitation like live<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" /></div>

TSR-JoshuaM

08-16-2011, 04:37 PM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport. For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both. You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.</blockquote><div>If I moved from live to eq2x would I still have access to everything I had in live like classes races and all with no limitation like live<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" /></div></blockquote>classes and races no. You will only have access to what your EQ2 Extended membership supports. However, as I stated in that message, if you copy a restricted class/race (or any combination thereof) from Live to Extended, you will always maintain access to that character regardless if you own the class/race pack. That character only.

Peogia

08-16-2011, 04:54 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport. For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both. You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.</blockquote><div>If I moved from live to eq2x would I still have access to everything I had in live like classes races and all with no limitation like live<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" /></div></blockquote>classes and races no. You will only have access to what your EQ2 Extended membership supports. However, as I stated in that message, if you copy a restricted class/race (or any combination thereof) from Live to Extended, you will always maintain access to that character regardless if you own the class/race pack. That character only.</blockquote>Kinda feels like a rip off to me since I bought the original Everquest II game and the Original Everquest II collectors edition game so what I bought and payed for twice I would then be asked to pay for againI think we should really get access to all for buying the Original Everquest II game

TSR-JoshuaM

08-16-2011, 04:55 PM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport. For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both. You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.</blockquote><div>If I moved from live to eq2x would I still have access to everything I had in live like classes races and all with no limitation like live<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" /></div></blockquote>classes and races no. You will only have access to what your EQ2 Extended membership supports. However, as I stated in that message, if you copy a restricted class/race (or any combination thereof) from Live to Extended, you will always maintain access to that character regardless if you own the class/race pack. That character only.</blockquote>Kinda feels like a rip off to me since I bought the original Everquest II game and the Original Everquest II collectors edition game so what I bought and payed for twice I would then be asked to pay for againI think we should really get access to all for buying the Original Everquest II game</blockquote>I don't agree but that's ok, I'll still submit your feedback! If you really want access to everything you bought just play on the Live servers, that's how it's intended. If you want a free to play option, there's Extended, with optional memberships. No one is forcing you to either product.

Peogia

08-16-2011, 05:05 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport. For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both. You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.</blockquote><div>If I moved from live to eq2x would I still have access to everything I had in live like classes races and all with no limitation like live<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" /></div></blockquote>classes and races no. You will only have access to what your EQ2 Extended membership supports. However, as I stated in that message, if you copy a restricted class/race (or any combination thereof) from Live to Extended, you will always maintain access to that character regardless if you own the class/race pack. That character only.</blockquote>Kinda feels like a rip off to me since I bought the original Everquest II game and the Original Everquest II collectors edition game so what I bought and payed for twice I would then be asked to pay for againI think we should really get access to all for buying the Original Everquest II game</blockquote>I don't agree but that's ok, I'll still submit your feedback! If you really want access to everything you bought just play on the Live servers, that's how it's intended. If you want a free to play option, there's Extended, with optional memberships. No one is forcing you to either product.</blockquote>I don't want free to play just an option to move to a more populated server willing to pay $15 a month on extended like live but should atleast get all of what I payed for already

TSR-JoshuaM

08-16-2011, 05:12 PM

If you don't want the free to play option then there really is no need for you to move to Extended. A character transfer token can get you to a more populated server if you wish.

Peogia

08-16-2011, 05:21 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you don't want the free to play option then there really is no need for you to move to Extended. A character transfer token can get you to a more populated server if you wish.</blockquote>From The_Bazaar?

retro_guy

08-16-2011, 05:52 PM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you don't want the free to play option then there really is no need for you to move to Extended. A character transfer token can get you to a more populated server if you wish.</blockquote>From The_Bazaar?</blockquote>No. Those (we) on that server are forever tainted by RMT.

deadcrickets2

08-16-2011, 06:45 PM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>For Everquest II Extended. You do not get all of the expansions with a gold membership, only a Platinum membership. You are given access through Sentinel's Fate even if you are a free to play - player.There is only one Extended server, Freeport.For Everquest II Live. This is a monthly required subscription fee (but we do offer up to annual subscription plans), and you are given access through Sentinel's Fate just for subscribing but there is no subscription plan that gives you the latest expansion, it must be purchased separately. Anything you buy for Live is accessible in Extended so you wouldn't have to buy DOV for both.You do have the option of transferring a Live character to Extended which costs a Character Copy Token from our Marketplace. If you transfer a restricted race or class, you will always maintain access to it even if you have not purchased the associated class/race pack to support it. However, you cannot then make a new character of a restricted class/race without purchasing the packs.</blockquote><div>If I moved from live to eq2x would I still have access to everything I had in live like classes races and all with no limitation like live<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" /></div></blockquote>If you copied a character from Live to EQ2X it would have Gold status for as long as your Live subscription was still active. As soon as it stops the character will drop down to Bronze status and any gear that is not unlocked will fall off of the character into the bags. You can still keep playing the character though and it'd be only $10 to go to Silver and then another three bucks (give or take) to unlock your gear again using item unlockers.

Peogia

08-21-2011, 06:28 PM

If I copy to EQ2X will my Pegasus and all SC items and shards ect come with me? and mounts and veteran rewards like call of the veteran if already claimed and lon items?

deadcrickets2

08-21-2011, 08:22 PM

<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x/posts/list.m?topic_id=8481" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x...m?topic_id=8481</a>

apwyork

08-21-2011, 09:15 PM

What seems to be a low population server might be a misconception. I resumed play back in january and thought the server I was on was dead for the first couple days, then I realized, it's pretty busy but there weren't that many people in the areas I was in at the time. Once I started playing the higher level characters again, I began to see a lot more people.Also, you need to read very closely what you get to keep when you transfer a character. A lot of things are not going to go with them to another server.