Free LON House Issue

[Kimber]

<p><span ><span style="color: #cae0e6;"> </span>For lack of a better place that deals with housing or the cities themselves as zones I guess this goes here unless a Mod feels it needs to be someplace else.<p>We are allowed to have 10 houses now and they do not all have to be the prestige houses.  My problem is this.</p><p>I have a lv 39 Monk Barb that has the DoV Summer home in SFP ( I play on Naggy BTW )  While opening my LON booster packs today I got the New Halas House loot card.  I thought to myself perfect I can link that house and my summer home and she can have a house where she is from and all that.  So I head over there without doing /claim yet cause I know I cannot purchase a reg house in New Halas since I am a Freep.  Find the correct door look at it read all the stuff.  It says must have rent free deed thing ( nothing about being good )  My hopes are high at this point so I /claim examin the deed click on the door and no joy.  Now it says I must be good aligned.  I think to myself OK I will just betray over buy it go back to FP and have it.  However before doing this I decide I might want to get more info on it as I really do not wish to loose the house.  I submit a ticket to either have the deed placed back in my /claim or if possable swap the deed for a Goro deed since I am evil( I really like that house also ) I also asked if I could own the house and still have access to it if I went to Qey and back to Freep.  I was informed that no I would not retain access to said house if I betrayed back to Freep.  They would be happy to move said loot right to anouther char 1 time at my request however they would not be willing to swap the deed for anouther house that happens to be evil aligned.</p><p>Now to me this is well kinda messed up I understand them not being willing to swap them out.  However the simple fact that I got a card for a free house that I will not be able to use unless I roll a Qey or betray over and stay all my toons are on the Freep side in my families guild so staying Qey is not really an option personaly.  I would like to see either the house loot cards be set up so you have a choice as to which rent free house you get and it offer the ones for your side when you unpack it.  Or the rent free houses to be not alligned.  If I get one for Qey and I want to put one of my evil toons in it and have to sneek in thats fine I have no problem with it.  This however I am sure is mainly just a Red server problem as I cannot stay in the guild I am in if I switch sides unlike on a blue server.  I do not see why the Rent free houses should not be treated like the prestige houses since its basicly the same thing ie a house you do not have to pay rent for.</p></span></p>

[redwoodtreesprite]

<p>This is odd, as it was stated at the time the multiple houses were announced that you could keep a house after you betrayed, though you might have trouble accessing it if it was in Freeport or Qeynos and you were the wrong alignment.</p>

[CorpseGoddess]

<p>The easiest thing to do is to simply create an alt that is good aligned (or choose an existing good-aligned character), and ask them to put the deed in that toon's inventory.  Then have that character make you a trustee.  It's exactly the same as owning it yourself.  I've used this solution myself for Strep and the Halas housing.  Works just fine.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Senya]

<p>On a pvp server I'm not sure that you can be trustee and visit a house of opposite alignment.  I may be wrong about that, but I know when test server switched to pvp I had problems with a guild hall I had on test. </p><p>On a PVE server you can actually just buy the Halas house with the license even if you are evil, or so I hear.  I've not done it myself with the Halas license, but I have with a different license. You can also betray and not lose your house (my necro lived in Qeynos the entire time and when I got a Five-bedroom LoN house license I used it to buy the free house in Qeynos, not Freeport).   PVP servers have different rulesets about that though and I'm not really familiar with all of them.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>Exactly since I am on PvP I cannot have the house cause it requires "" good "" alignment.  I would not ba able to add the toon as a trustee either due to oposing alignment.  Basicly I am screwed untill they change it <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>Kimber@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span><span style="color: #cae0e6;"> </span>For lack of a better place that deals with housing or the cities themselves as zones I guess this goes here unless a Mod feels it needs to be someplace else.<p>We are allowed to have 10 houses now and they do not all have to be the prestige houses.  My problem is this.</p><p>I have a lv 39 Monk Barb that has the DoV Summer home in SFP ( I play on Naggy BTW )  While opening my LON booster packs today I got the New Halas House loot card.  I thought to myself perfect I can link that house and my summer home and she can have a house where she is from and all that.  So I head over there without doing /claim yet cause I know I cannot purchase a reg house in New Halas since I am a Freep.  Find the correct door look at it read all the stuff.  It says must have rent free deed thing ( nothing about being good )  My hopes are high at this point so I /claim examin the deed click on the door and no joy.  Now it says I must be good aligned.  I think to myself OK I will just betray over buy it go back to FP and have it.  However before doing this I decide I might want to get more info on it as I really do not wish to loose the house.  I submit a ticket to either have the deed placed back in my /claim or if possable swap the deed for a Goro deed since I am evil( I really like that house also ) I also asked if I could own the house and still have access to it if I went to Qey and back to Freep.  I was informed that no I would not retain access to said house if I betrayed back to Freep.  They would be happy to move said loot right to anouther char 1 time at my request however they would not be willing to swap the deed for anouther house that happens to be evil aligned.</p><p>Now to me this is well kinda messed up I understand them not being willing to swap them out.  However the simple fact that I got a card for a free house that I will not be able to use unless I roll a Qey or betray over and stay all my toons are on the Freep side in my families guild so staying Qey is not really an option personaly.  I would like to see either the house loot cards be set up so you have a choice as to which rent free house you get and it offer the ones for your side when you unpack it.  Or the rent free houses to be not alligned.  If I get one for Qey and I want to put one of my evil toons in it and have to sneek in thats fine I have no problem with it.  This however I am sure is mainly just a Red server problem as I cannot stay in the guild I am in if I switch sides unlike on a blue server.  I do not see why the Rent free houses should not be treated like the prestige houses since its basicly the same thing ie a house you do not have to pay rent for.</p></span></p></blockquote><p>Unless it's different for prestige houses, this is not true. I betrayed to freeport to get a freeport house and then betrayed back after they changed the housing structure and I was able to keep my freeport house.</p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>redwoodtreesprite wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is odd, as it was stated at the time the multiple houses were announced that you could keep a house after you betrayed, though you might have trouble accessing it if it was in Freeport or Qeynos and you were the wrong alignment.</p></blockquote><p>I can access mine from the guild hall.</p>

[Senya]

<p><cite>d1anaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unless it's different for prestige houses, this is not true. I betrayed to freeport to get a freeport house and then betrayed back after they changed the housing structure and I was able to keep my freeport house.</p></blockquote><p>Do you play on a pvp server?</p>

[Arro]

<p>Would they be willing to give you back the loot card? If they do you could trade it with someone for the Gorwyn card either in LoN or on one of the card trading/selling sites.</p>

[Cloudrat]

<p>I am guessing you got the deed as a choice from the free loot card we got for welcome back and those were not tradeable cards, so trading for Gorowyn isn't an option.  It is a shame that they didn't make allowances for PVP server on that one<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" /></p><p>On a pve server I was able to buy the Halas house with my SK after I examined deed and it poofed. So, it is possible on pve to live in Halas with an evil toon.</p>

[gourdon]

<p><cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am guessing you got the deed as a choice from the free loot card we got for welcome back and those were not tradeable cards, so trading for Gorowyn isn't an option.  It is a shame that they didn't make allowances for PVP server on that one<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" /></p><p>On a pve server I was able to buy the Halas house with my SK after I examined deed and it poofed. So, it is possible on pve to live in Halas with an evil toon.</p></blockquote><p>It sounded like it was from a free card pack, which would still be no trade.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>That is correct free card pack so i cannot trade it.</p><p>There are a few things that being on a PvP server makes difficult and most are very managable however this one kinda gets me just a touch esp after the houseing revamp.  I hope that the devs see this ( I also did a /petition not sure if that will make it to the devs or not since the GM's and CS handled it ) and will look into it and make at least the LON Free House cards like the prestige houses or like I said before make it a thing you unpack and it offers you the houses for your alignment ( on PvP ) or all of them with a disclaimer/warning about alignment issues on a PvP server. </p><p>I will admit I was unsure if I would be able to claim it on an evil toon which is why I went threw everything I did before I even claimed the deed on the char I did.  Only to find out that I could not.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>Any chance for a lil RED name up date on this.  Even if you tell me its not fesable to do that would be fine or that you are looking into it and are unsure it you want to work it that way.......  Some sort of reply would be nice though. </p><p>I am sure that while this is not much of an issue for PvE servers it would be a welcome addition to those of us on PvP severs to be able to claim the other houses.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>Guess asking for fix's to the game is out of style.  Should I demand?  Or should I insult Devs and what not so I can get some response here? </p><p>I am at a total loss guys.  TBH even if you just have the SOE Mods respond to the posts here instead of doing it yourselves that would be fine so long as they are saying what you want them to say.  Even if all you do is say yup working on it or nope not going to happen, although that is still a yes kinda since we were told RTM would never be in the game and looky there what do we have, but anyway.  The silance on the other end is quite disturbing.</p>

[Senya]

<p>The support forums section is really pretty good about responding to questions.  One of the TSR's there may be able to help you in some way.  I don't know if there's anything they can do, but it's worth a shot.</p><p>There really needs to be some way for people on pvp servers to use those licenses since there's not a choice of city alignnment like the Qeynos/FP license.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Kimber]

<p>TSR can forward my request up and that has happend did a /petition /bug and submited a question on help site for Station.  All of which got me we will submit your question to the next lv.  I have not heard back since then even though I asked to be updated.  I even sent a PM to a couple Red names here on the boards asking for a comment on this topic be it yes we will look into that since its messed up or No not a chance in hell that we will make it that way for the PvP server.  Either answer would be great imo.  I would just like to know like I said and the the lack of response is well bothersome at best since it seems like those that bad mouth the Devs and what not get a response much faster than those of us that are polite without kissing thier @ss.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>I am not going to let this go untill I get some kind of answer on it even if its not what I would like to hear. </p>

[Kimber]

<p>Still want some red name feed back on this</p>

[yohann koldheart]

<p>not sure what feedback your looking for .</p><p>you play on naggy.  your a evil aligned toon, evil aligned cant own housing in good aligned cities. its been like that as long as i can remember.  they aren't going to change the rules just because of a lon card.</p><p>you shouldn't have redeemed the card knowing that you cant own a house in a good city , you kinda screwed yourself.</p><p>and yes you could play the " omg i didn't know card"  but this isn't a new rule or anything so its not something they will likely change.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>Did you read the first post at all?  Did you look pay attention to all the steps that I took prior to doing /claim?  I knew going in that I might not be able to use the card or own the house.  I get that.  My point is this.  I have the prestige summer home on the same toon zone in is in SFP if I betray to Qey the zone in for my summer home is still SFP if I zone out of that house I will zone into SFP.</p><p>Now I am asking for either the LON free house loot cards to either offer all the houses or just the houses for the alignment of the toon they are claimed on.  This would make it so that you would not be getting a LON loot card that is usless to you and well just make things better IMO.  Either that or make the LON loot free rent houses just like the prestige homes.  I would gladly grind out the faction to go claim the house as a Qey and betray back over to FP if I could still keep access to the house.</p><p>As for what feed back I am asking for.  Just a lil Red Name response is all.  TBH if one were to post and say OK we looked at it and we are not going to change anything.  I would be fine with that.  Not happy but they looked into it or at least said they did so ok.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>And the waiting continues</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>I'll make the suggestion about adding additional text to the loot cards but there will be no changes to the functionality or offering.  PVP servers have alignment restrictions, halas applies to these restrictions, and it is safe to assume that a halas housing license would be for a home in halas.  You already know this.</p><p>As for adding in all redeemable homes to the loot card, the licenses have been released in separate sets so opening a Legacies booster isn't going to get you Dragonbrood loot and we aren't going to be adding old loot cards to new sets.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>Well not what I was wanting to hear but its good to hear something.</p><p>Thanks for the time and answers.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>In the future if I am not responding to your thread quickly enough you should always contact our support staff directly.  While I am primarily tasked to provide forum support, I do have many other duties that may take me away for hours, or even days, at a time.  I'll always do my best to get back and make sure I get everyone updates as quickly as possible but at times it may not be.</p>

[Kimber]

<p>This thread was in the general game play before it got moved here.  I dont know the date that it got moved though so its not on you.  You seem to be doing a bang up job.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Ah well that makes sense!  Because I've been wondering how I missed this thread!</p>