New Godesses?

[Anaogi]

<p>The dribble from the FanFaire panels continues (courtesy of EQ2Wire, couldn't afford to go):</p><h2><a rel="bookmark" href="http://eq2wire.com/2011/07/09/live-blog-eq2-panel-6-content-and-zone-design/">EQ2 Panel #6 — Content and Zone Design</a></h2><p>Q: Returning Goddesses? A: There are 2 which have never been seen in EQ2 Norrath. Both of them will be making a return.</p><p>Five gets you ten, they're finally resolving Erollisi's status...but the second?  Ulkorruuk?  Someone else?</p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p>I'm not sure if they are including Demi Gods in with Normal Gods, but here are what I think the possibilities are</p><p><strong>Possibilities - Goddess' who haven't had that much direct influence/worship in the EQ2 world (by NPCs):</strong></p><p>Terris Thule (Their is that rumor that Cazic Thule considated his Demi Gods, which would put an end to Terris, which turns out to be true. The last part of the Plane of Nightmares is the Defiler Epic, meaning that Cazic absorbed everything else to include Terris Thule.)</p><p>Ayone Ro</p><p>Luclin (she might come back [Removed for Content] that her moon is destroyed)</p><p>Xeygony</p><p>Veeshan (Put Kerafyrm back in his place maybe?)</p><p>Saryrn (Haven't seen much from her since EQ1)</p><p>Some new goddess they <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">make up</span> introduce into Norrath</p><p><strong>Goddess' that have been seen in EQ2</strong></p><p>Anashti Sul (Avatar, Peacock, played a role in TSO and in the defeat of Roehn Theer)</p><p>Lanys T'Vyl (As apart of the SK Mythical, her godhood is debatable anyway)</p><p>Tunare (Avatar / influcing Firiona Vie's actions)</p><p>Erollisi Marr (in all of her spritual sparkly goodness. However, you can try to make the argument that we really didn't see her persay because all we saw was her sparkly corspe, so she might be the one comming back)</p><p>Sullon Zek (Current expantion, trapped in Dunder)</p><p>E'ci (With what happens in Frostfell every year and that Dragon that is clearly a creation of hers, she seems to be influcing alot of things. Also, those Winged Amazonians girls up in Everfrost are hers. On a side note, Tarew Marr is the father of Mithanel and Erollisi, isn't E'ci their mother?)</p><p>Quellious (From the shattering)</p><p><span>Ulkorruuk (I think she counts to being seen in Norrath as it was probably her (with Innoruuk's Direction) that killed Erollisi Marr, she also has strong worship in the Everling Manor)</span></p><p>Druzzil Ro (I thnk she may count to being seen in Norrath as she is the reason EQ2 exists at all)</p><p>Anyway, let me know if their are some that I am missing.</p>

[Anaogi]

<p>The comments were that it was one specifically not heard from in EQ2.  Anashti Sul is quite active, thank you (my defiler worships her), and ditto Tunare.  Anything goes on the rest, and I'm just assuming Errolisi is incoming, since they seem to be on a kick for answering player requests lately...</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Anaogi@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The comments were that it was one specifically not heard from in EQ2.  Anashti Sul is quite active, thank you (my defiler worships her), and ditto Tunare.  Anything goes on the rest, and I'm just assuming Errolisi is incoming, since they seem to be on a kick for answering player requests lately...</p></blockquote><p>Anashti is not in his "possibilities" list, but in his second "general" lists</p>

[Anaogi]

<p>You're not 'adding' a goddess if it's already present.  i.e. Anashti, Tunare, and Quellious...</p><p>Guess I shoulda been more specific.  The actual Q&A:</p><p><em><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Q: Returning Goddesses? A: There are 2 which have never been seen in EQ2 Norrath. Both of them will be making a return.</span></strong></em></p>

[Cometar]

<p>When I read this tidbit of info last night my first two guesses were Erolissi and Terris-Thule. After thinking about the goddesses we know of, those two just pop out to me as obvious viable options to return.</p><p>I mean, Veeshan is up there in teir with the Elemental gods (as is already being debated in another thread) and hasn't been back to Norath since she Terra formed it to our knowledge. I just don't see here coming back ever, really. Though, Smoke did mention Velious is going to consume EQ2 till 2013 and over half of it is filled with Dragons. Hint maybe?</p><p>Xegony is doubtful for the some of the same reasoning. The Elemental gods don't really have a reason to come to Norrath. Their presence would completly throw goddly power out of whack. Plus they've usually been pretty content to manage things from their planes. They weren't even present at the council meeting when the gods decided to leave Norath. That sort of this is beneath them so I figure "returning" would be too.</p><p>E'ci, see above.</p><p>That leaves Druzzil Ro, <span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">Ayonae Ro, </span><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">Terris-Thule, Erolissi, </span><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">Saryn, </span><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">Ulkorruk, Luclin, Drinal, and a couple more even more obscure goddesses to choose from. I dunno, but from that list there are only a few gals that seem like they could be weighted among the same power as the other gods that have already returned. Those are Erolissi who we're already suspecting due to in game events, Druzzil Ro who was responsible for the time sync and in turn the realm of Norath we live in, and Terris-Thule who was important enough in EQ1 to have her own Plane in PoP even though she was a only demi god.</span></span></p><p>It's food for thought.</p>

[Aneova]

<p>Errolisi has been focused on ALOT I don't <span style="text-decoration: underline;">think</span> that they'll be bringing her in just yet. I'd bet on E'ci as one and anyone's guess on the other.</p>

[Anestacia]

<p>A coment was made by Kathiel in a Pre-show to the address that <em><strong>IF</strong></em> Erollisi were to return that we would still celebrate Erollisi Day and keep the shrines to her, etc.  That coupled with last years lore about the death keeper not seeing her pass into the afterlife signals to me that her return is inevetable.  Will it be one of these two mentioned?  Maybe not, but I am betting so.  If it is her, then we would probably also get an evil goddess to balance it out so my hope would be with Terris Thule.  Her pressence was so dynamic and dark in EQ1 and to this day is probably my favorite looking god in the pantheon.  Saryn is another possibility though not as big of a name as a Thule imo. </p><p>I do like the shift back to the gods and hope we see a full on story involving them like in PoP.  Ever since they were reintroduced into EQ2 they seem to have taken a back seat in a lot of situations and now its time for them to be on the forefront again.</p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p><span ><em><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Q: Returning Goddesses? A: There are 2 which have never been seen in <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">EQ2</span></strong> Norrath. Both of them will be making a return.</span></strong></em></span></p><p>EQ 2 Norrath. Why would they make that distinction? Because the Goddess they are putting in are ones that have been seen in EQ1</p><p>Also, Making a RETURN. Can't RETURN if you have NEVER BEEN, get what I'm saying?</p>

[Gungo]

<p><cite>Rivald@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm not sure if they are including Demi Gods in with Normal Gods, but here are what I think the possibilities are</p><p><strong>Possibilities - Goddess' who haven't had that much direct influence/worship in the EQ2 world (by NPCs):</strong></p><p>Terris Thule (Their is that rumor that Cazic Thule considated his Demi Gods, which would put an end to Terris)</p><p>Ayone Ro</p><p>Luclin (she might come back [Removed for Content] that her moon is destroyed)</p><p>Xeygony</p><p>Veeshan (Put Kerafyrm back in his place maybe?)</p><p>Saryrn (Haven't seen much from her since EQ1)</p><p>Some new goddess they <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">make up</span> introduce into Norrath</p><p><strong>Goddess' that have been seen in EQ2</strong></p><p>Anashti Sul (Avatar, Peacock, played a role in TSO and in the defeat of Roehn Theer)</p><p>Lanys T'Vyl (As apart of the SK Mythical, her godhood is debatable anyway)</p><p>Tunare (Avatar / influcing Firiona Vie's actions)</p><p>Erollisi Marr (in all of her spritual sparkly goodness. However, you can try to make the argument that we really didn't see her persay because all we saw was her sparkly corspe, so she might be the one comming back)</p><p>Sullon Zek (Current expantion, trapped in Dunder)</p><p>E'ci (With what happens in Frostfell every year and that Dragon that is clearly a creation of hers, she seems to be influcing alot of things. Also, those Winged Amazonians girls up in Everfrost are hers. On a side note, Tarew Marr is the father of Mithanel and Erollisi, isn't E'ci their mother?)</p><p>Quellious (From the shattering)</p><p><span>Ulkorruuk (I think she counts to being seen in Norrath as it was probably her (with Innoruuk's Direction) that killed Erollisi Marr, she also has strong worship in the Everling Manor)</span></p><p>Druzzil Ro (I thnk she may count to being seen in Norrath as she is the reason EQ2 exists at all)</p><p>Anyway, let me know if their are some that I am missing.</p></blockquote><p>You forgot the god of dreams for the quest we did for erollsi</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Gungo@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rivald@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm not sure if they are including Demi Gods in with Normal Gods, but here are what I think the possibilities are</p><p><strong>Possibilities - Goddess' who haven't had that much direct influence/worship in the EQ2 world (by NPCs):</strong></p><p>Terris Thule (Their is that rumor that Cazic Thule considated his Demi Gods, which would put an end to Terris)</p><p>Ayone Ro</p><p>Luclin (she might come back [Removed for Content] that her moon is destroyed)</p><p>Xeygony</p><p>Veeshan (Put Kerafyrm back in his place maybe?)</p><p>Saryrn (Haven't seen much from her since EQ1)</p><p>Some new goddess they <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">make up</span> introduce into Norrath</p><p><strong>Goddess' that have been seen in EQ2</strong></p><p>Anashti Sul (Avatar, Peacock, played a role in TSO and in the defeat of Roehn Theer)</p><p>Lanys T'Vyl (As apart of the SK Mythical, her godhood is debatable anyway)</p><p>Tunare (Avatar / influcing Firiona Vie's actions)</p><p>Erollisi Marr (in all of her spritual sparkly goodness. However, you can try to make the argument that we really didn't see her persay because all we saw was her sparkly corspe, so she might be the one comming back)</p><p>Sullon Zek (Current expantion, trapped in Dunder)</p><p>E'ci (With what happens in Frostfell every year and that Dragon that is clearly a creation of hers, she seems to be influcing alot of things. Also, those Winged Amazonians girls up in Everfrost are hers. On a side note, Tarew Marr is the father of Mithanel and Erollisi, isn't E'ci their mother?)</p><p>Quellious (From the shattering)</p><p><span>Ulkorruuk (I think she counts to being seen in Norrath as it was probably her (with Innoruuk's Direction) that killed Erollisi Marr, she also has strong worship in the Everling Manor)</span></p><p>Druzzil Ro (I thnk she may count to being seen in Norrath as she is the reason EQ2 exists at all)</p><p>Anyway, let me know if their are some that I am missing.</p></blockquote><p>You forgot the god of dreams for the quest we did for erollsi</p></blockquote><p>I didn't know Morrel Thule had a sex change...</p><p>Anyways. Lanys T'Vyl used to be the Demi-Goddess of Strife before Innoruuk killed her. Even he has standards and boundries for which she ended up crossing. Saryrn was all but confirmed to have been reabsorbed into Innoruuk for his own survival. What I mean is that it was heavily implied she's gone, but it's not explicitely stated.</p>

[ke'la]

<p>I would say the "never been seen" in EQ2 Norath would lock out E.Marr, personally while I do think her return is going to come sooner rather then later I don't see her comming anywhere but durring the Eday live events.</p><p>So to me that leaves all the other EQL female gods to look at.</p><p>Then again Feb is close to being inside the "in the next 6 months" window.</p>

[Meirril]

<p>Personally I'd put bets on Erollisi Marr and Ullurrok in the same update. Both are active in EQ2 lore and popular enough to merrit attention on their own. Also curriously enough both dieties technically favor scout classes and in the dieties we're kinda lacking on those type of powers.</p><p>Strangely enough, you could argue that both dieties should be neutrally worshipable. Erollisi because she should accept all worshipers due to their believe in love. Ullurrok simply because every heart can feel a sudden flash of passion and then commit betrayal. The good worshipers would be just as sweet as the evil. Maybe even more so since evil victems should suspect the betrayal is comming. Any quest to become a Ullurrok worshiper should probably require that you betray your initial faction at least once.</p>

[darwich]

My money is on erollisi... question is... if she does come back.. does shard of love go away? Time to start farming it again if that is the case!

[Rainmare]

<p>that's where my money is too, on Erollisi and Ullorruuk. E will be a good diety, and U will be an evil one.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>that's where my money is too, on Erollisi and Ullorruuk. E will be a good diety, and U will be an evil one.</p></blockquote><p>But the Good side is already one diety less than evil, why should Evil get ANOTHER one? Good and Neutral would make sense.</p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Personally I'd put bets on Erollisi Marr and Ullurrok in the same update. Both are active in EQ2 lore and popular enough to merrit attention on their own. Also curriously enough both dieties technically favor scout classes and in the dieties we're kinda lacking on those type of powers.</p><p>Strangely enough, you could argue that both dieties should be neutrally worshipable. Erollisi because she should accept all worshipers due to their believe in love. Ullurrok simply because every heart can feel a sudden flash of passion and then commit betrayal. The good worshipers would be just as sweet as the evil. Maybe even more so since evil victems should suspect the betrayal is comming. Any quest to become a Ullurrok worshiper should probably require that you betray your initial faction at least once.</p></blockquote><p>Except for one thing I seriously doupt any of Inny's followers would EVER allow an E.Marr follower with-in a 1,000 miles of thier cities if they can do anything about it...epsecally Neriak. It is not always the god that excludes certain worshiper types, alot of the time it is those intollerant worshipers of competing gods that exclude worshipers from thier city.</p><p>Look at Spain durring the Inquisition where beleif in the wrong god = torcher and death... you don't think that would happen in Neriak to anyone worshiping the god of Love?</p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>darwich wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>My money is on erollisi... question is... if she does come back.. does shard of love go away? Time to start farming it again if that is the case!</blockquote><p>I doupt it. The way most zones work in MMOs is that when it is launched it is time locked at that point, until it is revamped, then it moves forward in time...though sometimes only sections of it will move forward. That is why Dancer can be standing near the Claymore statue in Antonica AND on the Islands in TT.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Hehe it would be funny if The Nameless took a Female form...Likelyhood is only a pitiful 3% if that. </span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span >I doupt it. The way most zones work in MMOs is that when it is launched it is time locked at that point, until it is revamped, then it moves forward in time...though sometimes only sections of it will move forward. That is why Dancer can be standing near the Claymore statue in Antonica AND on the Islands in TT.</span></blockquote><p>And Murrar Shar found in 3-4 different areas of the game as well for the same reason.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td height="28" valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2"><span ><p>Except for one thing I seriously doupt any of Inny's followers would EVER allow an E.Marr follower with-in a 1,000 miles of thier cities if they can do anything about it...epsecally Neriak. It is not always the god that excludes certain worshiper types, alot of the time it is those intollerant worshipers of competing gods that exclude worshipers from thier city.</p><p>Look at Spain durring the Inquisition where beleif in the wrong god = torcher and death... you don't think that would happen in Neriak to anyone worshiping the god of Love?</p></span></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/styles/EQ2/eq2_default/images/common/spacer.gif" width="1" height="1" /></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><p>Thankfully enough there are three "evil" cities in Norrath. If it was up to the Inny worshipers, the only religion practiced in Norrath would be his. While Freeport would probably look down on Erollisi worship they haven't persecuited anyone for joining in on the Erollisi Day events. The Sarnak in Gorowin honestly wouldn't care.</p><p>Now on the flip side, I seriously doubt you want to wander over to New Halas and openly declaire your worship of Innorruk. There are some barbarians that would probably lynch you for it. I guess Inny would appreciate your nobel sacrifice to stir up hate in the shrine dedicated to Erollisi.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span ><span style="color: #cae0e6; font-size: x-small;"> </span><p><cite>darwich wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>My money is on erollisi... question is... if she does come back.. does shard of love go away? Time to start farming it again if that is the case!</blockquote><p>I doupt it. The way most zones work in MMOs is that when it is launched it is time locked at that point, until it is revamped, then it moves forward in time...though sometimes only sections of it will move forward. That is why Dancer can be standing near the Claymore statue in Antonica AND on the Islands in TT.</p></span></blockquote><p>I think they could introduce a second zone at the entrance similar to how Veskar now has 2 instances, one when it was newly discovered and one when the expansion was finally released. The pre-release instance was left in tact.</p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td height="28" valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2"><span><p>Except for one thing I seriously doupt any of Inny's followers would EVER allow an E.Marr follower with-in a 1,000 miles of thier cities if they can do anything about it...epsecally Neriak. It is not always the god that excludes certain worshiper types, alot of the time it is those intollerant worshipers of competing gods that exclude worshipers from thier city.</p><p>Look at Spain durring the Inquisition where beleif in the wrong god = torcher and death... you don't think that would happen in Neriak to anyone worshiping the god of Love?</p></span></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" height="1"><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/styles/EQ2/eq2_default/images/common/spacer.gif" width="1" height="1" /></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><p>Thankfully enough there are three "evil" cities in Norrath. If it was up to the Inny worshipers, the only religion practiced in Norrath would be his. While Freeport would probably look down on Erollisi worship they haven't persecuited anyone for joining in on the Erollisi Day events. The Sarnak in Gorowin honestly wouldn't care.</p><p>Now on the flip side, I seriously doubt you want to wander over to New Halas and openly declaire your worship of Innorruk. There are some barbarians that would probably lynch you for it. I guess Inny would appreciate your nobel sacrifice to stir up hate in the shrine dedicated to Erollisi.</p></blockquote><p>The thing is you put E.marr followers and Inny followers in the same city and they WILL Explode...remember Inny's Daughter is responcable for E.marr's death... I seriously doupt Lucan would except another major factor war in his city when it would be just easier to kill any of the newly mented followers of Emarr.</p><p>The case might be made for Gorowin allowing them in, however for the same reason of avoiding internal conflict they would most likly keep out the newer of the two worshipers.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span >The thing is you put E.marr followers and Inny followers in the same city and they WILL Explode...remember Inny's Daughter is responcable for E.marr's death...</span></blockquote><p>She was? I thought Inny himself was. I remember no hints or anything about Lanys.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>not Lanys, but inny's 'daughter' Ulloruuk, the goddess of betrayal is apparently responsible for E. Marrs death.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Oh right, I forgot about that for a moment. Seems like Inny always has a new daughter every day or something these days.</p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Oh right, I forgot about that for a moment. Seems like Inny always has a new daughter every day or something these days.</p></blockquote><p>That is not to say that Inny isn't a proud "daddy" for seeing her kill Emarr....accually Ulloruuk might make a good addtion as the other goddess comming, and definatly would put a deviding line between the two cities...assuming E.Marr is the other new goddess.</p>

[Arianah]

<p>Well I'm not sure if Erollisi Marr can be counted among the goddesses we haven't seen on EQII Norrath yet, because we have gotten quite a bit of lore lead ins about her demise.</p><p>But when Anashti Sul was removed from the pantheon, Rodcet Nife took her place as the Prime Healer. Perhaps another goddess will take the place of <strong>Erollisi Marr</strong> if she herself isn't resurrected?</p><p>Considering our current content revolves around Velious, <strong>E'ci</strong> and <strong>Veeshan </strong>would make sensible options. With the Ages End Prophecy <strong>Druzzil Ro</strong> might also play another part in our future. With the return of the Beastlord class, <strong>Luclin </strong>would also make sense. And with the lore revolving around Erollisi Marr, <strong>Ehayae </strong>may also be a contender.</p><p>Drinal is actually a male deity, so that rules him out.</p><p>Since we're not sure the returning goddesses include demi-goddesses, <strong>Saryrn </strong>could also be a possibility since she was a devout follower of Erollisi Marr before she became the demi-goddess of torment. I'm a little hazy on the book we recieved recently during one of the Erollisi Day events, but if I'm remembering correctly, <strong>Ullkorruuk</strong> or someone similar is the one responsible in some part for Erollisi Marr's demise. So they could also be a consideration.</p><p>Ontop of the ones already listed, these are all the female goddesses, demi-goddesses and spirits that I could think of:</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Never Mentioned in EQII</span></p><p>* Rizlona, Demi-Goddess: Bard who sang songs in the name of Solusek Ro, which earned her recognition in his eyes.(if you'd count her, there was a piece of lore in EQ1 that said she was a demi-goddess residing in Solusek Ro's Tower)</p><p>* Ehayae, Spirit: Neutral. Maintains the cycle of birth, rebirth and creation, strongly tied to Drinal who completes the cycle.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Mentioned in EQII</span></p><p>* Lasydia: Lesser Goddess of rescue.</p><p>* Talysra: Creator of all the felines.</p><p>* Tifanah, Demi-Goddess: Exalted by Fizzlethorpe Bristlebane, demi-goddess of an extension of the Plane of Mischief, the Sphere of Illusions.</p><p>* Vazaelle Kaleine: Devout Cazicite prophet, consumed by Cazic-Thule upon his return to Norrath.</p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p>You know, Saryrn and <span ><strong>Ullkorruuk</strong></span> have similar backgrounds. Both were Erollisi followers who turned their back on love to embrase hatred.</p><p>..Whatever happened to Saryrn, anyway?</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>Saryrn wasn't a devout E. Marr follower. She was a woman married to one of the city guard who was possessive and insanely jealous. and I do mean insanely.</p><p>her story was she had her man, and she started to suspect he was being unfaithful. little crap like he'd forget his lunch, he'd get home late, yada yada. after awhile, she was so sure he was being untrue that she tortured and killed him for it. turns out of course she was just looney.</p><p>she left the city, and traveled, and each time to provess repeated itself. she'd find a fella, she'd lose her mind in possessive jealousy, she'd torture him to death. and I think again she's another of Inny's 'daughters'...but I don't think anything is said about wether she's still around or not.</p><p>I don't think it'll be E'ci...she's one of the Elemental Gods, they tend to not care about what happens among the lesser gods and mortals...and V coming back woul djust put another big crimp in the Age's End gameboard.</p><p>Judging from our information from the Steward, that E. Marr never crossed, and they assumed we were there to talk about someone else (who we all have guessed/assumed was Ullkorruuk's mortal self) those two will probably be the ones coming back...or a replacement for E. Marr and Ull will try to take the replacement out too.</p>

[Meirril]

<p>If you count Erollisi out of the contending because she's talked about too much in EQ2 so you consider her a "seen" deity, then you have to exclude Ullorruuk for the same reason.</p><p>Veeshan has never been worshipable except by Bards in EQ1 (who could worship any diety including the Nameless). I just can't see her becomming concerned enough with the lesser races to assist the number one threat to her children.</p><p>It is a bit difficult to buy E'ci making a return without the other elemental gods. Also, why would she suddenly care about mortals?</p><p>Druzzil Ro is probably the strongest 3rd contender, with Luclin a distant 4th. Honestly its difficult to consider either of these dieties seeking active worshipers on Norrath. More or less both goddesses actively AVOID contact with mortals. Druzzil Ro because she's more or less the Deux Ex Machina of Norrath and Luclin by personality. Its difficult to imagine either changing.</p>

[Arianah]

<p>The lore that came from the Planes of Power book said that she was a devout follower of Erollisi Marr, that's what I was basing my information off of. I'm not sure there's much mention of her anywhere else(?).</p><p><a href="http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/news_article.vm?id=50894&month=042008" target="_blank">The Fabled Planes of Power Lore - Part 17</a> <em>(Scroll down to the part about Saryrn)</em></p><p>And I was just saying those deities would make sense considering, not that any of them is likely to be one of the two goddesses to return to us. The more we all talk about it, it does sound like a combination of Erollisi Marr/replacement and the one who opposes her would be the better guess, but I don't really like to make guesses and then be wrong, look at what happened when we thought Sentinel's Fate was going to be Velious because of the Rhime quests they added to Kunark. You just never know what's coming or when <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Cronyn]

<p>My money is on Erollisi's younger sister Bashfulissi Marr, Goddess of Passing Notes in Class That Say, "Do You Like Me? Yes: <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  No: <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Maybe: :-/".  She's shy, so she rarely goes out anywhere, but is cute in a nerdy sort of way.</p><p>Her deity quest is going to be awesome though, crafting those little flippy note things.  I can't wait!</p>

[Banditman]

<p>Her theme song is George Strait's "Check Yes or No".</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you count Erollisi out of the contending because she's talked about too much in EQ2 so you consider her a "seen" deity, then you have to exclude Ullorruuk for the same reason.</p><p>Veeshan has never been worshipable except by Bards in EQ1 (who could worship any diety including the Nameless). I just can't see her becomming concerned enough with the lesser races to assist the number one threat to her children.</p></blockquote><p>The Nameless was NEVER a worshipable diety. Bards could worship anyone except Cazic Thule, Innoruuk, and Bertoxullous.</p><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Saryrn wasn't a devout E. Marr follower. She was a woman married to one of the city guard who was possessive and insanely jealous. and I do mean insanely.</p><p>her story was she had her man, and she started to suspect he was being unfaithful. little crap like he'd forget his lunch, he'd get home late, yada yada. after awhile, she was so sure he was being untrue that she tortured and killed him for it. turns out of course she was just looney.</p><p>she left the city, and traveled, and each time to provess repeated itself. she'd find a fella, she'd lose her mind in possessive jealousy, she'd torture him to death. and I think again she's another of Inny's 'daughters'...but I don't think anything is said about wether she's still around or not.</p></blockquote><p>Ummm.. That's her post-EQ2 retcon story. Originally she was a devout follower of Erollisi Marr. Her love was a member of the Freeport guard, and he was sent off to fight in a war. A lot of time passed and she continued to wait for him to return. Not even so much as a sign of him ever returned to her, but she stayed loyal to Erollisi Marr the whole time. Innoruuk took advantage of this, and placed a seed of taint in her while she was sleeping. Eventually it began to corrupt her, slowly turning herself into what she is. She began to hate anyone else who was in love because hers never returned. Eventually she began to enjoy the pain and torment that she not only suffered herself, but took the opportunities to inflict on others, until such a time where Innoruuk created the Demi-Plane of Torment for her and made her a demi-goddess. Now-a-days, she's been pretty much reabsorbed into Innoruuk to ensure his own survival. This is pretty much all but confirmed, which means she could still return if they wanted it.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Erollisi's younger sister Bashfulissi Marr, Goddess of Passing Notes in Class That Say, "Do You Like Me? Yes: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  No: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />  Maybe: :-/".  She's shy, so she rarely goes out anywhere, but is cute in a nerdy sort of way.</p><p>Her deity quest is going to be awesome though, crafting those little flippy note things.  I can't wait!</p></blockquote><p>So she's Hinata Hyuga?</p><p><img src="http://download.minitokyo.net/Hinata.Hyuuga.260843.jpg" width="465" height="640" /></p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Erollisi's younger sister Bashfulissi Marr, Goddess of Passing Notes in Class That Say, "Do You Like Me? Yes: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  No: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />  Maybe: :-/".  She's shy, so she rarely goes out anywhere, but is cute in a nerdy sort of way.</p><p>Her deity quest is going to be awesome though, crafting those little flippy note things.  I can't wait!</p></blockquote><p>My Fury would totally take her as a godess. Get on that quick Cronyn, she's waiting! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Xalmat]

<p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p>

[RoninSenshi]

<p><cite>Kairah@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The lore that came from the Planes of Power book said that she was a devout follower of Erollisi Marr, that's what I was basing my information off of. I'm not sure there's much mention of her anywhere else(?).</p><p><a href="http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/news_article.vm?id=50894&month=042008" target="_blank">The Fabled Planes of Power Lore - Part 17</a> <em>(Scroll down to the part about Saryrn)</em></p><p>And I was just saying those deities would make sense considering, not that any of them is likely to be one of the two goddesses to return to us. The more we all talk about it, it does sound like a combination of Erollisi Marr/replacement and the one who opposes her would be the better guess, but I don't really like to make guesses and then be wrong, look at what happened when we thought Sentinel's Fate was going to be Velious because of the Rhime quests they added to Kunark. You just never know what's coming or when <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Who the #$#% is Baraguj Szuul?</p>

[ttobey]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>I would like to reanimate Terris Thule for EQ2. She had the little snake on her arm in EQ1.</p>

[Valentina]

Terris Thule was awesome. One of my favorites from PoP.

[Arianah]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Erollisi's younger sister Bashfulissi Marr, Goddess of Passing Notes in Class That Say, "Do You Like Me? Yes: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  No: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />  Maybe: :-/".  She's shy, so she rarely goes out anywhere, but is cute in a nerdy sort of way.</p><p>Her deity quest is going to be awesome though, crafting those little flippy note things.  I can't wait!</p></blockquote><p>hehe ^^;</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>Why should the evil list grow even longer? how about guaranteeing some balance between the good and evil dieties in terms of numbers before releasing the Thule Siblings to extend both?</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>Why should the evil list grow even longer? how about guaranteeing some balance between the good and evil dieties in terms of numbers before releasing the Thule Siblings to extend both?</p></blockquote><p>You do realize that there are more evil dieties than good in the pathenon, right? Quite a few neutral dieties too.</p>

[Anestacia]

<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>I would like to reanimate Terris Thule for EQ2. She had the little snake on her arm in EQ1.</p></blockquote><p>Terris and EQ1 Sol Ro were by far my favorite looking gods and would love to see Terris make a return for sure.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>Why should the evil list grow even longer? how about guaranteeing some balance between the good and evil dieties in terms of numbers before releasing the Thule Siblings to extend both?</p></blockquote><p>You do realize that there are more evil dieties than good in the pathenon, right? Quite a few neutral dieties too.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but not every last minor diety has to become worshippable. The Thule Siblings can both be brought into the game as good and evil, but that still means that another good diety needs to be brought in. There can be an infinite number of neutrals for all I care, but the extremely minor evil dieties like Tholluxe Paells and Torvonnilous, even the Zek siblings, don't need to be brought in as worshipable dieties.<span><strong></strong></span></p><p>Remember, dieties need to be brought in with the intention of being UNIQUE to what they can bring to the players. If every last diety in the pantheon was worshipable, the great majority of them would all have the exact same abilities as most of the others across the very small amount of battle and tradeskill mechanics that they can affect.</p>

[Lader]

<p>id love to see a diety for evil healers, similar to tunare for good. I could go with karana or something i guess, but theres nothing special afaik that would be like omg i want to have that deity. as it stands i just never bothered with one. Or if they dont add one, then make something desireable with the revamp.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Lader wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>id love to see a diety for evil healers, similar to tunare for good. I could go with karana or something i guess, but theres nothing special afaik that would be like omg i want to have that deity. as it stands i just never bothered with one. Or if they dont add one, then make something desireable with the revamp.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah they'd have to create an evil diety just for that very reason. An evil diety who helps heal others is in itself a contradiction though...</p>

[ttobey]

<p><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>I would like to reanimate Terris Thule for EQ2. She had the little snake on her arm in EQ1.</p></blockquote><p>Terris and EQ1 Sol Ro were by far my favorite looking gods and would love to see Terris make a return for sure.</p></blockquote><p>Sol Ro was the first EQ character I animated. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Neskonlith]

<p>Whichever goddesses they turn up to be, I'll wager by my Ak'Anon ancestors that they'll be demanding tiger blood before they'll bestow a miracle!</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>Why should the evil list grow even longer? how about guaranteeing some balance between the good and evil dieties in terms of numbers before releasing the Thule Siblings to extend both?</p></blockquote><p>You do realize that there are more evil dieties than good in the pathenon, right? Quite a few neutral dieties too.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but not every last minor diety has to become worshippable. The Thule Siblings can both be brought into the game as good and evil, but that still means that another good diety needs to be brought in. There can be an infinite number of neutrals for all I care, but the extremely minor evil dieties like Tholluxe Paells and Torvonnilous, even the Zek siblings, don't need to be brought in as worshipable dieties.<span><strong></strong></span></p><p>Remember, dieties need to be brought in with the intention of being UNIQUE to what they can bring to the players. If every last diety in the pantheon was worshipable, the great majority of them would all have the exact same abilities as most of the others across the very small amount of battle and tradeskill mechanics that they can affect.</p></blockquote><p>What makes Moral Thule "good"? His opposition to his father and sibling? Dreams themselves arn't good. Moral Thule wants to keep dreams free of the Thule influence. That seems more like Moral wanting to keep his father and sister out of his realm of power. It is as much self serving as it is altrustic.</p><p>Also what is the obsession with needing an even number of "good" dieties? Is this a "ballance" issue? When "ballance" becomes a cause in an of itself instead of focusing on improvements of "game play" or "Lore" then "ballance" becomes a hinderance to progress. I'd rather see dieties added to the game because they enhance game play. Not because there has to be a ballance between "good vs evil" when really the entire pathenon of Norrath isn't about good vs evil. Its a cluster of alliances and rivalries.</p><p>Look back at EQ1. Not all the "good" dieties opposed the "evil" ones. Each diety had specific dieties they opposed either due to a fundamental difference in influence, or due to personal actions. There wasn't a time where any of the dieties tried to draw a line and say "I'm right, if you want to join me come over here we're getting rid of the other dieties because they are wrong."</p><p>Inny attacked other gods, and will probably continue to do so in the future. Why? Because it is in his nature. Mithanial Marr will probably counter attack because of their personal history. Other dieties will join sides because of their relationships. Other dieties will sit on the sidelines because they don't want to become involved or because they are waiting for an opportunity.</p><p>Now if you want to argue that there needs to be game ballance because nothing but evil dieties are being introduced that is fine. You don't need to introduce a new good diety to do that. I'd suggest that you flesh out the different aspects of the good dieties (or evil, or neutral). As an example if Ullurrokk (evil)  and Ec'i (neutral) are introduced as new dieties have the maidens in New Halas introduce the history of Mithanial Marr as an Avenger with a more aggressive line of miracles totall seperate from the existing Marr diety line (but sharing the same faction). You can have one, or the other but not both and you have to denounce your current Marr to get the other one just like any other diety change.</p><p>In a similar fashion you could introduce a new worship line for Tunare as the Mother of All aspect instead of the Scion of Growth, or focus on her roll as the Elvin Mother, or even on her role as protector of nature.</p><p>Just saying there are ways to have game ballance without being OCD about the number of dieties. </p>

[DeBasilisk]

<p>I agree that the number of good/evil deities do not need to be equal, but, given the overall design of good cities to bad cities, good classes to bad classes, races etc., I would expect the numbers to be balanced.</p><p>In any event, I want to see Terris Thule return. She's hot in the kind of way only a true Cazicite can appreciate.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Terris Thule as a definite returning goddess, and Erollisi Marr as a likely returning goddess.</p></blockquote><p>Why should the evil list grow even longer? how about guaranteeing some balance between the good and evil dieties in terms of numbers before releasing the Thule Siblings to extend both?</p></blockquote><p>You do realize that there are more evil dieties than good in the pathenon, right? Quite a few neutral dieties too.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but not every last minor diety has to become worshippable. The Thule Siblings can both be brought into the game as good and evil, but that still means that another good diety needs to be brought in. There can be an infinite number of neutrals for all I care, but the extremely minor evil dieties like Tholluxe Paells and Torvonnilous, even the Zek siblings, don't need to be brought in as worshipable dieties.<span><strong></strong></span></p><p>Remember, dieties need to be brought in with the intention of being UNIQUE to what they can bring to the players. If every last diety in the pantheon was worshipable, the great majority of them would all have the exact same abilities as most of the others across the very small amount of battle and tradeskill mechanics that they can affect.</p></blockquote><p>What makes Moral Thule "good"? His opposition to his father and sibling? Dreams themselves arn't good. Moral Thule wants to keep dreams free of the Thule influence. That seems more like Moral wanting to keep his father and sister out of his realm of power. It is as much self serving as it is altrustic.</p><p>Also what is the obsession with needing an even number of "good" dieties? Is this a "ballance" issue? When "ballance" becomes a cause in an of itself instead of focusing on improvements of "game play" or "Lore" then "ballance" becomes a hinderance to progress. I'd rather see dieties added to the game because they enhance game play. Not because there has to be a ballance between "good vs evil" when really the entire pathenon of Norrath isn't about good vs evil. Its a cluster of alliances and rivalries.</p><p>Look back at EQ1. Not all the "good" dieties opposed the "evil" ones. Each diety had specific dieties they opposed either due to a fundamental difference in influence, or due to personal actions. There wasn't a time where any of the dieties tried to draw a line and say "I'm right, if you want to join me come over here we're getting rid of the other dieties because they are wrong."</p><p>Inny attacked other gods, and will probably continue to do so in the future. Why? Because it is in his nature. Mithanial Marr will probably counter attack because of their personal history. Other dieties will join sides because of their relationships. Other dieties will sit on the sidelines because they don't want to become involved or because they are waiting for an opportunity.</p><p>Now if you want to argue that there needs to be game ballance because nothing but evil dieties are being introduced that is fine. You don't need to introduce a new good diety to do that. I'd suggest that you flesh out the different aspects of the good dieties (or evil, or neutral). As an example if Ullurrokk (evil)  and Ec'i (neutral) are introduced as new dieties have the maidens in New Halas introduce the history of Mithanial Marr as an Avenger with a more aggressive line of miracles totall seperate from the existing Marr diety line (but sharing the same faction). You can have one, or the other but not both and you have to denounce your current Marr to get the other one just like any other diety change.</p><p>In a similar fashion you could introduce a new worship line for Tunare as the Mother of All aspect instead of the Scion of Growth, or focus on her roll as the Elvin Mother, or even on her role as protector of nature.</p><p>Just saying there are ways to have game ballance without being OCD about the number of dieties. </p></blockquote><p>Mithanial Marr wouldn't exist if Morrel Thule hadn't done the good thing of stealing his soul away and giving it to Erollisi. Also, it is a balance thing. Dreams may not be "Good", as you say, but they're not malevolent. Dreams are the opposite to nightmares, which are evil through and through. They're malevolent. They cause fear, pain, torment. They do nothing but cause harm. The mere act of a dream NOT being malevolent means it is good by nature, and if it is malevolent, then it is a nightmare.</p><p>And yes, there should be a balance between the numbers in dieties. The way this game has been going for the last 5 years, it's only to be expected that everything is equal. The developer's are caving into every last little incessant bit of whining by anyone who posts on the boards that everything has to be equal just to make everyone somewhat content with the game.</p>

[kelvmor]

<p>True facts: If you do the Defiler Epic, you find that the Dream Scorcher is the last remaining shard of the Plane of Nightmares. Cazic did absorb Terris-Thule and her plane.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>what we need is either to A) make all the gods 'neutral' or B) A major look at what the dieties control and redo them accordingly.</p><p>the problem with uneven good/evil is that the side with the extras, in this case evil, usually get the most powerful dieites. in this case, Anashti Sul. none of the other gods come close to what she offers, and of course the Dev who will remain nameless turned her from an evil 'Prime Healer' to a 'monsterous DPS machine'</p><p>some of the gods, what they do just makes no sense. Brell is basically the 'tradeskill' god. I've never even needed to wear the tradeskill gear, much less need a blessing or miracle for tradeskills. Anashti Sul, who considers herself to still be the Prime Healer, got turned into a DPS goddess.</p><p>Right now what they've done is said 'if you want to be a melee dps class, you have to be evil. if you want to be a healer, you have to be a goodie. if you want to tank...you need to pick the Tribunal. (why the judges of the pantheon are built to help you take a beating is unknown. you'd think they'd be more for good scouts...you know, discovering the truth of things..) if you'd like to bea mage dps...you either pick Sol Ro (wizzies/conjys get the most bang with him) or Bert (better for warlocks/necros) and if your a chanter...well your just outta luck, there's no diety for you.</p><p>and again the alignment thing hinders some classes. a good warlock...has no diety to enhance his dps but Sol Ro...so you get like 1 bless, and1 miracle that you can use because most all the rest of them need you to use fire/elemental based spells to trigger them. evil Inquisitors have no diety either...I think the closest they get to an evil healer is Inny..or maybe karana?</p><p>evil melee of course make out like bandits with Rallos and Anashti. Good guys get...Mith Marr. (why the Paladin god would be a dps god and not a tanking god is strange) and Bristlebane, who part of his nicer abilities requires you to get lucky and draw the right 'card'</p><p>They should have just made the gods like they were in EQ1. either race restrict them and give them blessings/miracles across all 4 archtypes, or make them all neutral and let you pick the one that best suits you...again giving them more miracles and blessings over a larger range of archtypes. Maybe 2 archtypes per deity. like Rallos could be scout/fighter based, while Anashti could be healer/mage base, Tunare healer/scout, Mithaniel scout/fighter, Sol Ro Mage/scout, ect.</p>

[Iskandar]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>They should have just made the gods like they were in EQ1. either race restrict them and give them blessings/miracles across all 4 archtypes, or make them all neutral and let you pick the one that best suits you...again giving them more miracles and blessings over a larger range of archtypes. Maybe 2 archtypes per deity. like Rallos could be scout/fighter based, while Anashti could be healer/mage base, Tunare healer/scout, Mithaniel scout/fighter, Sol Ro Mage/scout, ect.</blockquote><p>I had a similar idea, but mine was more generic... make the gods "neutral" (ie, a player from Neriak could choose to worship Tunare if they so desire) and combine all of the Blessings and Miracles into a common pool that all of the gods can access (some renaming may need to occur if any reference a specific deity -- ie, Virtue of the Six could become Virtue of the Gods). </p><p>Then add level 80 and 90 steps to the deity questlines. At level 80 you can run quests to add new Blessings to your altar, and at level 90 you can quest to add new Miracles. Add whichever ones you like, with each having it's own unique quest to unlock it.</p><p>Choosing a deity then becomes a matter of personal preference -- when you choose a deity you get a handful of Blessings and Miracles for free as part of that deity's "package" plus a pet to symbolize that deity, and everything beyond that is completely customizable by the player. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My money is on Erollisi's younger sister Bashfulissi Marr, Goddess of Passing Notes in Class That Say, "Do You Like Me? Yes: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  No: <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />  Maybe: :-/".  She's shy, so she rarely goes out anywhere, but is cute in a nerdy sort of way.</p><p>Her deity quest is going to be awesome though, crafting those little flippy note things.  I can't wait!</p></blockquote><p>So she's Hinata Hyuga?</p><p><img src="http://download.minitokyo.net/Hinata.Hyuuga.260843.jpg" width="465" height="640" /></p></blockquote><p>What...wait...Hinata accually got up enough currage to accually pass a note...without passing out?</p>

[Cusashorn]

Well she had enough courage to try and let Naruto cheat of her own test during the preliminary Chunin exams... :p

[Darkstar101]

<p>Don't forget that Veeshan is a Godess as well. Considering we are in the middle of DoV and she ultimately involved with the Sleeper storyline she can't be ruled out as a returning Godess.</p>

[Hilt]

<p><cite>DeBasilisk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I agree that the number of good/evil deities do not need to be equal, but, given the overall design of good cities to bad cities, good classes to bad classes, races etc., I would expect the numbers to be balanced.</p><p>In any event, I want to see Terris Thule return. She's hot in the kind of way only a true Cazicite can appreciate.</p></blockquote><p>BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA.</p><p>You sir, owe me a coffee spew free monitor...</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Darkstar101 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't forget that Veeshan is a Godess as well. Considering we are in the middle of DoV and she ultimately involved with the Sleeper storyline she can't be ruled out as a returning Godess.</p></blockquote><p>Well, technically yes. But lets ask the question: What kind of blessings, miracles and favors would the Brood Mother bestow on the cause of dragon-kind being in decline? Why would Veeshan want to be worshiped by us? Why wouldn't she be in favor of destroying all of the lesser races to save her own brood?</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Kairah@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>* Vazaelle Kaleine: Devout Cazicite prophet, consumed by Cazic-Thule upon his return to Norrath.</p></blockquote><p>Vazaelle is dead. Her bones are part of the Necro Epic, So am pretty sure she's out of the running :p</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p>I have a wierd feeling about the Return. I just can't put my finger on a theory of what the devs will do to put a twist on it... Somehow I think it will be who we expect, but not how we expect 'em...</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Darkstar101 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't forget that Veeshan is a Godess as well. Considering we are in the middle of DoV and she ultimately involved with the Sleeper storyline she can't be ruled out as a returning Godess.</p></blockquote><p>Well, technically yes. But lets ask the question: What kind of blessings, miracles and favors would the Brood Mother bestow on the cause of dragon-kind being in decline? Why would Veeshan want to be worshiped by us? Why wouldn't she be in favor of destroying all of the lesser races to save her own brood?</p></blockquote><p>I see Veeshan being Killed by Kerafyrm, before he is killed by someone else. It just sounds fitting to me...</p>

[Arianah]

<p><cite>Euri@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kairah@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>* Vazaelle Kaleine: Devout Cazicite prophet, consumed by Cazic-Thule upon his return to Norrath.</p></blockquote><p>Vazaelle is dead. Her bones are part of the Necro Epic, So am pretty sure she's out of the running :p</p></blockquote><p>She was a part of my "already mentioned in game so likely is NOT a candidate list."</p><p>Actually, I thought she was consumed by Cazic-Thule so he could have the power to return to Norrath, but when I did a quick google to make sure I had my facts right, everything is saying she was elevated to demi-god status and in the process her body was torn apart, and her mortal remains are what the necromancer epic are made of. (And I do play a necromancer as my signature suggests, so I already knew about her bones being a part of the epic weapon <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</p>

[Maergoth]

<p>I don't know if it was mentioned here yet, but it's possible that they were referring to the Beastlord quasi-diety "Truespirit" or whatever as one of the returning gods. If I recall, there were a handful of spiritual dieties, separate from the pantheon.</p>

[Arianah]

<p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I don't know if it was mentioned here yet, but it's possible that they were referring to the Beastlord quasi-diety "Truespirit" or whatever as one of the returning gods. If I recall, there were a handful of spiritual dieties, separate from the pantheon.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure Sahteb Mahlni is a female ^^;</p>

[Maergoth]

<p>Well it's a spirit, I'm sure it can be ambiguous.. and I'm still pretty sure that's one of the returning "gods", I don't know if there was a wire crossed, but that part has already been confirmed. As for Veeshan, Kerafyrm will probably kill her while we're busy dealing with giants and Rallos.</p>

[Arianah]

<p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well it's a spirit, I'm sure it can be ambiguous.. and I'm still pretty sure that's one of the returning "gods", I don't know if there was a wire crossed, but that part has already been confirmed. As for Veeshan, Kerafyrm will probably kill her while we're busy dealing with giants and Rallos.</p></blockquote><p>The panel said returning goddesses, so that's why I mentioned it. But the description of Sahteb doesn't exactly say it's a male either.</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p>Although they said two goddesses, I wouldn't rule out a 3rd diety (at the same time, or shortly after) if they're all going to be followable. </p><p>I would rather put my money on Prexus as a followable diety before Sateb Mahini. Sateb may be returning, if the True Spirit <em>is</em> Sateb. But it may be like the <em>return</em> of Morell, or a presence like Drinal. They exist, but are not followable mechanically.</p>

[Cusashorn]

Remember, Spirits are not deities. Spirits have no physical body or conscience in which it can acknowledge it's worshipers or even the other deities with. They're elements of nature, not actual forces of the universe.

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Hmm Prexus after getting back from Sweden?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">You know they might be saving Erolissi for next February </span></p>

[Cusashorn]

^ Prexus is a guy...

[Zabjade]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>^ Prexus is a guy...</blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Yes I know, that is why a Referenced Sweden.</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

I don't get it.

[darwich]

sex changes in sweeden

[Beenoc]

<p><cite>Rivald@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Terris Thule (Their is that rumor that Cazic Thule considated his Demi Gods, which would put an end to Terris, which turns out to be true. The last part of the Plane of Nightmares is the Defiler Epic, meaning that Cazic absorbed everything else to include Terris Thule.)</p></blockquote><p>In a way, Terris has been seen in Norrath. If you go to Nektulos Forest during Nights of the Dead, A NotD quest NPC on the beach is named Setri Lur'eth. Setri Lur'eth is an anagram of Terris Thule. She even has purple hair.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><cite>darwich wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>sex changes in sweeden</blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Or on Highpass Isle.</span></p>