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Amnerys
06-28-2011, 09:56 PM
<p align="center"><strong><img src="http://www.soe.com/newsletters/CSN_Emails/CSN_AllAccess/CSN_AllAccess_Logo.jpg" width="255" height="109" /></strong></p> <p>Station Access has a new name, lower fees and more plan options!</p> <p>Why pick just one of our amazing games to play when you can get access to an exciting line-up of all of our most popular titles for one low price? We’ve listened to your feedback and we are happy to announce the launch of the SOE All Access game pass!</p> <p>Formerly called Station Access, SOE All Access will allow you access to play many of our most popular games including: <em><em>DC Universe™ Online</em></em> (PC version), <em><em>EverQuest</em></em>® (PC and Mac versions), <em><em>EverQuest II, EverQuest II Extended</em></em> - Gold Membership,  <em><em>EverQuest Online Adventures</em></em>™ (PlayStation® 2), <em><em>Pirates of the Burning Sea</em></em>® - Captain's Club Membership, <em><em>PlanetSide</em></em>®, <em><em>Star Wars Galaxies</em></em>™, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes®, <em><em>Free Realms</em></em>® (PC and Mac versions) Membership, and <em><em>Star Wars</em></em>®: <em><em>Clone Wars Adventures</em></em>™ (PC and Mac versions) Jedi Membership.</p> <p>Subscriptions to all these games are available for one low price, and the deal gets even better the longer you subscribe for!</p><p><span ><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/3988" target="_blank"><img src="http://everquest2.com/images/en/community/buttons/readmore.png" border="0" width="175" height="44" /></a></p></span></p>

Finora
06-28-2011, 11:05 PM
<p>I was a SA subscriber for a long while, but switched out last year to just the normal sub here so I could get a multi month sub (and the goodies that go with it).</p><p>My question is, do those who go multi month with the new SA sub get the goodies for multi month subs for the games that are included?</p>

Helanor
06-29-2011, 10:27 AM
<p>I was looking forward to this sniff, I was going to get it and get the rest of my pets remade in SWG and level them up,but that's a bit pointless now, shame really, is a good deal, but I was only reallly interested in the one game apart from EQ2. Never mind.</p>

ShinGoku
06-29-2011, 10:59 AM
<p>/puts hand up</p><p>I only have the 1 game left to play (EQ2 durr WINNING).  Wouldn't it be cool if sony did subsidised game purchases so I could buy DCUO at a reduced price as I was an SA member!</p>

Peogia
06-29-2011, 11:43 AM
<p><cite>ShinGoku wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>/puts hand up</p><p>I only have the 1 game left to play (EQ2 durr WINNING).  Wouldn't it be cool if sony did subsidised game purchases so I could buy DCUO at a reduced price as I was an SA member!</p></blockquote><p>Yeah would be nice if DCUO came with ALL Access then it might be actually worth giving it a try but at $50 or $60 for a game with bad reviews I'm just not that eager to get burned again by Sony</p><p>After all I am already out $20 bucks for the Pegasus Sony ninja nerfed on me</p><p>Pegasus is to slow on ground to keep up pace and to slow in the skys poor thing had to take it out back and shoot it I thought its leg was broken</p>

Zaldor
06-29-2011, 11:50 AM
<p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p>

Sola
06-29-2011, 11:53 AM
<p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ShinGoku wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>/puts hand up</p><p>I only have the 1 game left to play (EQ2 durr WINNING).  Wouldn't it be cool if sony did subsidised game purchases so I could buy DCUO at a reduced price as I was an SA member!</p></blockquote><p>Yeah would be nice if DCUO came with ALL Access then it might be actually worth giving it a try but at $50 or $60 for a game with bad reviews I'm just not that eager to get burned again by Sony</p><p>After all I am already out $20 bucks for the Pegasus Sony ninja nerfed on me</p><p>Pegasus is to slow on ground to keep up pace and to slow in the skys poor thing had to take it out back and shoot it I thought its leg was broken</p></blockquote><p>Too bad they don't offer a 30 day return policy.  Maybe if they did, you could return him back to his $OE stable.  Oh wait, you laid him to rest.  Well, scratch that idea then.  At least he's no longer suffering.</p>

Peogia
06-29-2011, 12:01 PM
<p><cite>Sola wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ShinGoku wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>/puts hand up</p><p>I only have the 1 game left to play (EQ2 durr WINNING).  Wouldn't it be cool if sony did subsidised game purchases so I could buy DCUO at a reduced price as I was an SA member!</p></blockquote><p>Yeah would be nice if DCUO came with ALL Access then it might be actually worth giving it a try but at $50 or $60 for a game with bad reviews I'm just not that eager to get burned again by Sony</p><p>After all I am already out $20 bucks for the Pegasus Sony ninja nerfed on me</p><p>Pegasus is to slow on ground to keep up pace and to slow in the skys poor thing had to take it out back and shoot it I thought its leg was broken</p></blockquote><p>Too bad they don't offer a 30 day return policy.  Maybe if they did, you could return him back to his $OE stable.  Oh wait, you laid him to rest.  Well, scratch that idea then.  At least he's no longer suffering.</p></blockquote><p>Lol! thats okay I still have many things that need refunded like the token of fraud they sold me I think the name is (Token of Loyalty) a charm item from lon for $100 and some cloaks they nerfed ect to many things to list lets not forget the house item exspander there is another $10 cloak might of been another $100 too</p><p>(token of loyalty) says 10+ status but only ever gave 1% or less they later changed the description to cover up there deceit</p><p>Please allow me to draw a nice colorful picture of Sony and Fraud</p><p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #ffffff;"><strong>at purchase date advertised</strong></span></span></p><p><img src="http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/Icexstorm69/SonysTokenofFraud.png" width="1024" height="578" /></p><p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">In game Cover up of Deceit later on</span></strong></span></p><p><img src="http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/Icexstorm69/Sonystokenoffrauddeciet.jpg" width="1023" height="531" /></p>

Aethn
06-29-2011, 12:24 PM
<p>Umm that set of screenshots say the EXACT same thing. </p><p>The first one says it increased the contribution you make by 10%, so you gave teh guild 10% and you now give them 10% more of that 10%, ie 11%.  the seond screenshot simply reflects that change better in the wording.  It is the same token, you simply assumed the first description gave you 20% not 11%.  When I first saw that token on LON,  I saw it as 11% and decided it was not worth the the stats loss in the slot to wear it for 1%.  I never once assumed it was 20%.</p>

Peogia
06-29-2011, 12:29 PM
<p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm that set of screenshots say the EXACT same thing. </p><p>The first one says it increased the contribution you make by 10%, so you gave teh guild 10% and you now give them 10% more of that 10%, ie 11%.  the seond screenshot simply reflects that change better in the wording.  It is the same token, you simply assumed the first description gave you 20% not 11%.  When I first saw that token on LON,  I saw it as 11% and decided it was not worth the the stats loss in the slot to wear it for 1%.  I never once assumed it was 20%.</p></blockquote><p>guilds give 10% by default</p><p>and token 10 so should of been 20</p>

Aethn
06-29-2011, 12:31 PM
<p><cite>Zaldor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>Station Pass holders now save $180 a year, thats a huge savings over he old $29.99 rate.  Even if they removed the extra slots which I doubt they did, you can still buy those few slots from SC and have them forever, regardless of your subscription rate and still save TONS of money, like $140-$150 a year and have the slots purchased forever too boot.</p><p>This new pricing is a kick asre deal in a world that has prices going up constantly not going down, Thank you SOE for making my gaming more affordable.</p>

Aethn
06-29-2011, 12:33 PM
<p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm that set of screenshots say the EXACT same thing. </p><p>The first one says it increased the contribution you make by 10%, so you gave teh guild 10% and you now give them 10% more of that 10%, ie 11%.  the seond screenshot simply reflects that change better in the wording.  It is the same token, you simply assumed the first description gave you 20% not 11%.  When I first saw that token on LON,  I saw it as 11% and decided it was not worth the the stats loss in the slot to wear it for 1%.  I never once assumed it was 20%.</p></blockquote><p>guilds give 10% by default</p><p>and token 10 so should of been 20</p></blockquote><p>Thats not the arguement.  You are claiming bait and switch, which was not the case, it was just a poor description and you're assumption of that description being wrong.  I doubt you called SOE and complained, had you done so in a timely manner they would have refunded the item and removed it from you're account.</p>

Rijacki
06-29-2011, 12:48 PM
<p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Lol! thats okay I still have many things that need refunded like the token of fraud they sold me I think the name is (Token of Loyalty) a charm item from lon for $100 and some cloaks they nerfed ect to many things to list lets not forget the house item exspander there is another $10 cloak might of been another $100 too</p><p>(token of loyalty) says 10+ status but only ever gave 1% or less they later changed the description to cover up there deceit</p></blockquote><p>I'm positive you didn't pay SOE $100 for that one card. Even if you bought multiple LoN packs from SOE, you didn't pay $100 to SOE for that specific card, you bought packs for a -chance- at a obtaining one of several cards. If you paid $100 for that specific card, it was not to SOE, the 'markup' was by a 3rd party. It's rather like if you buy a pair of shoes at one store for $100 that the store bought from another store or person or wholesaler for $10. You're not buying it from the original store/person/wholesaler, you're buying it from the store where you paid the money.</p><p>As for math, I'm pretty sure you don't understand that either. 10% of 10 = 1. The original description did not say "an additional 10%" (which would have been a total of 20%). But it was something which some players could mis-interpret (10% more) so they clarified it (which is NOT a bait and switch). When you see a bottle of shampoo in store with a label of "Now 10% More" do you assume that the bottle now has double the amount of hair washy goodness or do you think it would be 10% of the original liquid measure added to the bottle?</p>

msgnomer
06-29-2011, 01:08 PM
<p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>As for math, I'm pretty sure you don't understand that either. 10% of 10 = 1. The original description did not say "an additional 10%" (which would have been a total of 20%). But it was something which some players could mis-interpret (10% more) so they clarified it (which is NOT a bait and switch). When you see a bottle of shampoo in store with a label of "Now 10% More" do you assume that the bottle now has double the amount of hair washy goodness or do you think it would be 10% of the original liquid measure added to the bottle?</p></blockquote><p>Actually, I took it to be a change based on the status amount as well.  If the bottle is the status earned and you normally give 10% and now you are told you can give 10% more, then that does equal a total of 20%.</p><p>To me that indeed is the more reasonable meaning.  For the total to be 11%, I would have expected it to say 1% more.  That said, it's possible that SOE realized the ambiguity in what they specified and that is why it was reworded.  I think fraud implies intent, and I really don't think SOE intended to deceive.</p>

Onurissa
06-29-2011, 01:33 PM
<p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zaldor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>Station Pass holders now save $180 a year, thats a huge savings over he old $29.99 rate.  <strong>Even if they removed the extra slots which I doubt they did</strong>, you can still buy those few slots from SC and have them forever, regardless of your subscription rate and still save TONS of money, like $140-$150 a year and have the slots purchased forever too boot.</p><p>This new pricing is a kick asre deal in a world that has prices going up constantly not going down, Thank you SOE for making my gaming more affordable.</p></blockquote><p>They have made it so unless you had an active station acct when this new pricing was added, you will not get the extra slots. Those with the extra slots because of their current Station acct will be able to keep theirs. But as you also stated its only 10 dollars i believe for each extra character you want, and thats not accounting for double station cash times etc.</p>

Nytetyme
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
<p>I just want to thank Sony .... Hubby and I had four accounts and have been with you since EQ1 beta ... so we've given you lots and lots of our money ... course we have had beaucoup fun and met many wonderful people which made it worth every penny ....</p><p>not long ago I had to cancel a regular acct and downsize one of our station accounts to a regular one ...</p><p>You have made two customers very very happy ....</p><p>Thank you again <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Nytetyme aka Wynd etc etc on Oasis <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Ooo .... when I downgraded the one account ... I paid for a year ... is it possible to upgrade the account and pay the difference for the year ??   *hey $5 a month adds up !!!* lol</p>

Caedo
06-29-2011, 02:33 PM
<p><cite>Zaldor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>I wholeheartedly agree.</p>

Aethn
06-29-2011, 02:43 PM
<p><cite>Caedo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zaldor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>I wholeheartedly agree.</p></blockquote><p>See the previous posts.  You are not losing money or slots in the long run, you are actually saving more money by ALOT even if you had to rebuy those extra slots for SC.  Not paying for the Pass now that you lose a few slots, you are actually shooting yourself in the foot, not SOE.  You now save $180 a year with the Access Pass, extra slots cost $10, even if you bought the extra 4 slots, its only $40 of that savings and you still saved $140, and the slots are now on the account forever regardless of the subscription level you have.</p>

Lempo
06-29-2011, 03:09 PM
<p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm that set of screenshots say the EXACT same thing. </p><p>The first one says it increased the contribution you make by 10%, so you gave teh guild 10% and you now give them 10% more of that 10%, ie 11%.  the seond screenshot simply reflects that change better in the wording.  It is the same token, you simply assumed the first description gave you 20% not 11%.  When I first saw that token on LON,  I saw it as 11% and decided it was not worth the the stats loss in the slot to wear it for 1%.  I never once assumed it was 20%.</p></blockquote><p>guilds give 10% by default</p><p>and token 10 so should of been 20</p></blockquote><p>Thats not the arguement.  You are claiming bait and switch, which was not the case, it was just a poor description and you're assumption of that description being wrong.  I doubt you called SOE and complained, had you done so in a timely manner they would have refunded the item and removed it from you're account.</p></blockquote><p>It was not a poor description in the least, you understood it, the poster following you understands it, I understood it before I even read posts in reply. Just because the complaintant got the idea in their head that it was what they wanted it to be means nothing. Just like the ninja nerf they are talking about, it happened, you want the stats on the mount go earn one, or suck it up while you read this.</p><p><a href="http://www.soe.com/termsofservice.vm#n6"><span style="color: #333333;">http://www.soe.com/termsofservice.vm#n6</span></a></p><p><strong>2. Virtual Goods Generally.</strong></p><p>You agree that SOE retains the unfettered right to modify its games and all aspects of characters, items, points and coin, including Station Cash (collectively, "<strong>Virtual Goods</strong>") therein. You acknowledge that SOE has been, is, and will be constantly making changes to its games. You further acknowledge that SOE can and will, in its discretion, modify features, functions or abilities of any element of any of its games or any Virtual Goods (which may, among other things, make the Virtual Goods substantially more valuable, effective or functional, or less valuable, effective or functional, more common or less common, or eliminated entirely). You acknowledge and agree that all Virtual Goods represent a limited license right governed by the terms of this Agreement, and are not redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value from SOE at any time.</p><p>SOE may authorize certain third party service provider(s) (and has designated Live Gamer Inc. ("<strong>Live Gamer</strong>")), as a permissible means through which you can barter certain transferable Virtual Goods with other Station Account holders (an "<strong>Exchange</strong>"). All transactions conducted through an SOE-authorized Exchange are processed by a third party service provider, such as Live Gamer, Inc., and your eligibility to participate in any such Exchange is governed by the terms of service, privacy policies and agreements implemented by Live Gamer, Inc. (or such other applicable SOE-Exchange) from time to time.</p><p>YOU PROMISE, THEREFORE, THAT YOU WILL NEVER ASSERT OR BRING ANY CLAIM OR SUIT AGAINST SOE, ITS LICENSOR(S) OR THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS, ANY COMPANY IN THE SONY FAMILY, OR ANY EMPLOYEES OF ANY OF THE ABOVE, WHICH IS RELATED TO OR BASED ON (I) A CLAIM ARISING FROM OR RELATED TO YOUR USE OF THE LIVE GAMER EXCHANGE (OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE SOE-AUTHORIZED EXCHANGE), (II) A CLAIM ARISING FROM OR RELATED TO THE ACTS OR OMISSIONS OF LIVE GAMER, INC. OR ANY THIRD PARTY ACTING ON OR THROUGH THE LIVE GAMER EXCHANGE (OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE SOE-AUTHORIZED EXCHANGE) (III) A CLAIM THAT YOU "OWN" ANY VIRTUAL GOODS IN ANY GAME, (IV) A CLAIM FOR THE "VALUE" OF VIRTUAL GOODS IF SOE DELETES THEM (AND/OR TERMINATES YOUR STATION ACCOUNT(S)), (V) A CLAIM FOR THE "VALUE" OF VIRTUAL GOODS THAT YOU MAY LOSE IF SOE DOES ANYTHING THAT IT IS ENTITLED TO DO PURSUANT TO ANY PROVISION OF THIS AGREEMENT, THE APPLICABLE GAME'S USER AGREEMENT AND SOFTWARE LICENSE, RULES OF CONDUCT, TERMS OF SERVICE AND/OR SOE'S <a href="http://www.station.sony.com/sonyonline/privacy.vm"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0066cc;">PRIVACY POLICY</span></span></a>, OR FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS AND/OR "BUGS" IN SOE's GAMES, AND/OR LIVE GAMER (OR SUCH OTHER APPLICABLE SOE-AUTHORIZED EXCHANGE) AND/OR (VI) A CLAIM THAT THE "VALUE" OF ANY VIRTUAL GOODS HAS INCREASED OR DECREASED BY VIRTUE OF ANY GAME MODIFICATION THAT SOE HAS MADE OR WILL MAKE. ALL OF THE ABOVE APPLIES WHETHER ON A LIVE GAMER EXCHANGE ENABLED SERVER OR ON A NON-LIVE GAMER EXCHANGE OR ON ANY OTHER SOE-AUTHORIZED EXCHANGE ENABLED SERVER.</p><p>You have no more case with the stats on your mount being changed, you were warned before making the purchase, or you chose to remain ignorant and neglected to read the terms that you agreed to, whatever it is you have no case nor claim, so you can either keep grasping at straws or go out and actually try to earn a mount that provides the stats you want.</p>

Aethn
06-29-2011, 05:50 PM
<p>You posted in agreement with me, I said the posters claims were unfounded since I understood the meaning and others did also.  So all you did was say the same thing I said.  And yes, the desription was a poor one, if it was not, SOE would not have changed it.</p>

Tigress
06-29-2011, 07:44 PM
<p><cite>Finora@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was a SA subscriber for a long while, but switched out last year to just the normal sub here so I could get a multi month sub (and the goodies that go with it).</p><p>My question is, do those who go multi month with the new SA sub get the goodies for multi month subs for the games that are included?</p></blockquote><p>i would like to know the answer to this as well.  if not for all the games, do they get to pick one as their main game and get the annual rewards for that?</p><p>also......  for the free 5 slots, if someone has station access when this new plan is active, do the extra 5 slots stay, even if they switch to reg sub or is it only as long as it is active and remains active.  if someone gets the character slots, then switches to one game for a few months and later switch back to the SA, do they get the 5 character slots or are they gone forever when they downgrade? </p><p>finally, when does this start?</p>

Dreyco
06-29-2011, 07:50 PM
<p>It started yesterday.  I'm all upgraded to the new price. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Tigress
06-29-2011, 07:56 PM
<p>ty for answering one of my questions <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />.  so that means that i have 5 extra character slots when they were on sale for 700 SC.  (i had plans on downgrading to just EQ2.)  wonder if that means that i will have 19 slots forever now?  (i have 14 characters and bought 5 slots when they were on sale.)  OR if i switch to EQ2 only, will i then have 14 slots?</p><p>omg .. 19 slots ... so many slots ... must make more characters ....  lol</p><p><em>p.s.  i tried to check out my sub options but i get an error.</em></p>

Caedo
06-29-2011, 11:20 PM
<p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Caedo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zaldor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>I wholeheartedly agree.</p></blockquote><p>See the previous posts.  You are not losing money or slots in the long run, you are actually saving more money by ALOT even if you had to rebuy those extra slots for SC.  Not paying for the Pass now that you lose a few slots, you are actually shooting yourself in the foot, not SOE.  You now save $180 a year with the Access Pass, extra slots cost $10, even if you bought the extra 4 slots, its only $40 of that savings and you still saved $140, and the slots are now on the account forever regardless of the subscription level you have.</p></blockquote><p>No one said anything at all about losing money or anything.  And no, actually I'm not doing anything to myself.   What's the incentive to pay for all access or anything of the sort if you don't plan to play more than one of the games more than just occasionally.   I'll just switch out games every month or something instead and pay even less than anything you're suggesting.  Having extra slots and/or any other free items was the thing that pushed many people over from just thinking Station might be convenient sometimes, to actually activating it.</p>

Nytetyme
06-30-2011, 09:00 AM
<p>Is there a problem with the game pass section ??</p><p>I was able to pay for a year *thank you thank you !!!*</p><p>so of course had hubby log in to do same when he got home ...</p><p>keep getting a error <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>would it be better for him to call to change his subscription for a year ??</p><p>any answers would be appreciated <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

tkia
06-30-2011, 10:23 AM
<p><cite>Caedo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What's the incentive to pay for all access or anything of the sort if you don't plan to play more than one of the games more than just occasionally. </p></blockquote><p>None whatsoever since that's the whole point of the tariff.</p><p>If that's not what you're looking for then go find a more suitable option.</p>

Greenion
06-30-2011, 01:40 PM
<p><span style="color: #008000;">a rather good decision on the part of soe....</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">- its all about subscription retention.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">at the old rate i paid $30 a month for access to all the games soe had ... which one of them was brought down and another otw.... mxo and swg.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">new games are surely in the works, i hear rumors of eqiii and psii ... but see no announcements of pre-beta forums as yet.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">so, now if i subscribe to a game at a standard rate outside the all access umbrella, from, say (/gasp), another game company...</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">...the total for all access + their sub is $20 + $15 which is only $5 more per month than i had been paying for all access, it doesn't increase my monthly game budget by much...</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">- it makes it affordable to keep all access and be able to play another game too...</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">- i would consider getting players talking as much as possible about future soe titles, the eqii forums originally opened over a year before its launch, btw... </span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">- if there isnt one a trial should be offered to at least all access subs to try dcu.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">- when closed beta or even earlier development phases of new titles come around, i would encourage mgmt to utillize the cache of loyalists they have in their all access subscriber base, it should be as good as wrote that all access subs get beta invites and free trials of any title soe intends on putting live.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">...in short, lowering the price is good for gaming, good to retain a subscriber base that is apt to wander while the next gen titles are being developed, access to multiple games is a great deal for a lot of reasons i had posted about before...</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=352682">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=352682</a></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">/camps and waits for eqiii forum to spawn.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">edit<span style="color: #00ff00;">></span> btw, the same day soe offered this reduction in all access sub pricing ... rift offered to upgrade to full game status from its trial version for $5.... which teaches the lesson, it isn't about the revenue generated by the initial sale of a title (its important but not the enchalada (sp?)) ... its all about the recurring sub revenue ... and mmmorpgs are only good if they have a playerbase.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">edit2<span style="color: #00ff00;">></span> thx for letting me post again, btw</span><span style="color: #00ff00;"> ... <span style="color: #99cc00;">/</span><span style="color: #008000;">waves</span> <span style="color: #99cc00;">@</span> <span style="color: #008000;">smed</span>.</span></p>

Caedo
06-30-2011, 09:05 PM
<p><cite>tkia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Caedo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What's the incentive to pay for all access or anything of the sort if you don't plan to play more than one of the games more than just occasionally. </p></blockquote><p>None whatsoever since that's the whole point of the tariff.</p><p>If that's not what you're looking for then go find a more suitable option.</p><p>lol that was my exact point.  It was others that were arguing it, not me.</p></blockquote>

Finora
07-01-2011, 01:11 AM
<p><cite>Zaldor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No extra character slots?</p><p>Forget it.</p></blockquote><p>Heheh, Station Access stopped being worth it just for the character slots the moment they put permanent character slots on the marketplace.</p><p>=)</p><p>It's been all about the number of games you can access since at least last October. I'm extremely pleased to see it's dropped in price and multi month options are now available. I might pick it back up again after Fan Faire announcements about the future.</p>

Banedon_Toran
07-01-2011, 08:02 AM
<p><cite>Persyphony@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm that set of screenshots say the EXACT same thing. </p><p>The first one says it increased the contribution you make by 10%, so you gave teh guild 10% and you now give them 10% more of that 10%, ie 11%.  the seond screenshot simply reflects that change better in the wording.  It is the same token, you simply assumed the first description gave you 20% not 11%.  When I first saw that token on LON,  I saw it as 11% and decided it was not worth the the stats loss in the slot to wear it for 1%.  I never once assumed it was 20%.</p></blockquote><p>Actually given that status contributed is 10% of that which you earn personally, you can also argue that the item should be giving 10% based on the personal status, which therefore -would- translate to a total 20% contributed to guild.</p><p>That said, I think SoE cleared the matter up quick enough and anybody unhappy at the time of the clarification should have contacted Support and argued for a refund.</p>

Nytetyme
07-01-2011, 09:10 AM
<p>Is anyone else having a problem trying to change their account thru the gamepass option ??</p><p>I was able to purchase the year option for my account but have tried and tried since then to do so on hubby's acct .</p><p>Keeps saying there is an error ... Sony are you having trouble there or is it something I need to call about ??</p><p>his acct is accessible and everything else is ok .... so is it just something with your billing or what ???</p><p>any help would be appreciated <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Aethn
07-01-2011, 11:01 AM
<p><cite>Nytetyme wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>.</p><p>Keeps saying there is an error ... Sony are you having trouble there or is it something I need to call about ??</p></blockquote><p>If you are having billing issues, you should absolutely call SOE and get this cleared up, you should never wait when it comes to billing.</p>

Lalen
07-01-2011, 12:09 PM
<p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sola wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ShinGoku wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>/puts hand up</p><p>I only have the 1 game left to play (EQ2 durr WINNING).  Wouldn't it be cool if sony did subsidised game purchases so I could buy DCUO at a reduced price as I was an SA member!</p></blockquote><p>Yeah would be nice if DCUO came with ALL Access then it might be actually worth giving it a try but at $50 or $60 for a game with bad reviews I'm just not that eager to get burned again by Sony</p><p>After all I am already out $20 bucks for the Pegasus Sony ninja nerfed on me</p><p>Pegasus is to slow on ground to keep up pace and to slow in the skys poor thing had to take it out back and shoot it I thought its leg was broken</p></blockquote><p>Too bad they don't offer a 30 day return policy.  Maybe if they did, you could return him back to his $OE stable.  Oh wait, you laid him to rest.  Well, scratch that idea then.  At least he's no longer suffering.</p></blockquote><p>Lol! thats okay I still have many things that need refunded like the token of fraud they sold me I think the name is (Token of Loyalty) a charm item from lon for $100 and some cloaks they nerfed ect to many things to list lets not forget the house item exspander there is another $10 cloak might of been another $100 too</p><p>(token of loyalty) says 10+ status but only ever gave 1% or less they later changed the description to cover up there deceit</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Please allow me to draw a nice colorful picture of Sony and Fraud</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>This works...</p><p><img src="http://michael-wells.net/files/2011/07/logo_soe_fraud.jpg" /></p>