ToFS x2 Mage Secondary (Off Spider)

[Trensharo]

<p>I'm not sure if I'm the first person to post it or not, or if any other threads exist (it would surely be buried quite deep), and I know some people may not care cause it's just launch EM x2 content...  However, has anyone noticed this item is itemized like a Fabled out of a Kael Instance, except it has a red slot instead of a Yellow Slot?</p><p>It's missing ~4 Crit and .8 Potency and Crit Bonus compared to all the ranged/off-hand items the MOB drops.  That's like taking an Adornment Socket off the item.</p><p>Can a dev go in and fix this item?  The Crit Chance, Potency, and Crit Bonus are all too low (4 and 0.8% respectively).</p>

[Gninja]

<p>What's the name of the item?</p>

[Griffildur]

<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What's the name of the item?</p></blockquote><p>select * from items</p><p>where zone_id = @tofsx2_id</p><p>and boss_id = @spider_id</p><p>where name like '%spider%' and slot_id = @slot_secondary_id and intended_class_id = @mage_id</p><p>adjust to whatever the real names and id's are <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p>

[Karagon]

<p>As soon as you are here Gninja would be cool if you would look at fighter items from spider too.</p><p><span>B</span><span>ow of Spun Silk  and </span><span><span>Cocooned Satchel are the names. They have 7 less crit than rogue and heal one's</span></span></p><p><span><span>aITEM 1864094944 444367350:[Bow of Spun Silk]/a</span></span></p><p><span><span>aITEM -1020062093 -1573453834:Cocooned Satchel/a</span></span></p><p><span><span>Also would be cool if you look at x4 drops too in a theme below, i posted some screenshots there. </span></span></p><p><span><span>Looks like ALL fighter ranged items in game have less crit. I believe this is a huge mistake.</span></span></p><p><span><span>Thanks <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></span></span></p>

[Eyema]

aITEM -714968210 942351265:Spun Symbol of the Arachnid/a from Necretia Widowmaker 7th floor, i beleive is the item mentioned. its crit chance is actually correct, the pot/cb is only 0.4 off, and the main stats are actually lower than the rest of the loot table (97 instead of 105).

[Trensharo]

<p><cite>Eyema@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>aITEM -714968210 942351265:Spun Symbol of the Arachnid/a from Necretia Widowmaker 7th floor, i beleive is the item mentioned. its crit chance is actually correct, the pot/cb is only 0.4 off, and the main stats are actually lower than the rest of the loot table (97 instead of 105).</blockquote><p>Compare it to the priest secondary it drops.  Your numbers are off.  It should have 44 Crit and 6 Potency/Crit Bonus with 114 STA/INT.</p><p>You're citing the stats of a Fabled out of Kael Contested.  This is an x2 Raid drop, not a contested Fabled drop...</p>

[Silzin]

While you are looking at this a nether place it I noticed it is on the EM X4 ranged items. the scout and brawler ranged dropped for us last night and the brawler (and i think the fighter bow as well) one has 36.6 Crit, 6.6 CB and Pot. the scout ranged (and i think all of the rest) have 47.4 Crit, 6.6 CB and Pot. the names are brawler - Pouch of Zekian Lightning scout - Bow of the Cornicen

[Trensharo]

<p>Also why do Drunder Heroic 2h staffs have 2 white and 2 yellow adornment sockets, yet the x4 EM staffs only have one white and one red?</p><p>Shouldn't it be two whites and a yellow and a red?  And perhaps two whites and 2 reds for Challenge mode 2 handers?</p><p>Who itemized this crap?</p>

[joseph]

<p>Hi Ginja Can we please get a fix on this item it seems to be missing stats </p><p>it sould be 6pot 6 CB 114 int stam </p><p>its the "Spun symbol of the Arachnid" </p><p>please and thank you </p>

[SOE-MOD-04]

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[Trensharo]

<p>I cannot believe this is not fixed yet.  So simple, but apparently not for SOE...</p>

[Sacra Magice]

<p>While you are at it, please, add ranged slot. This is the mob who drops RANGED items. Bow for scouts, bow for fighters, ranged for brawlers... Healer item is secondary/ranged. Mage one is only secondary. that's pretty important when you consider war runes won't fit in secondary.</p><p>Thanks</p>

[Sacra Magice]

<p>I hope they are not waiting for GU 61 to get this fix in...</p><p>Remember, stats + SLOT.</p>

[BuffleKill]

<p>Any update on this? I just got one last night and would love to put a ranged War Rune I have in it.</p>

[Trensharo]

<p>The devs in this game don't seem to care.  They are truly terrible.  The worse I've ever experienced.  I've already donated mine to Bertoxxulous.  It's 100% useless with the stats they've put on it.  Even the EM 2 hander is better with 2 less adornment slots than the x2 Wand + that crappy Heoric Red Slot offhand they put on a raid mob.</p>

[Morghus]

<p><cite>Trenshero@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The devs in this game don't seem to care.  They are truly terrible.  The worse I've ever experienced.  I've already donated mine to Bertoxxulous.</p></blockquote><p>They are too busy revamping level 20+ gear because people whined about that.</p>

[Lempo]

<p><cite>Trenshero@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The devs in this game don't seem to care.  They are truly terrible.  The worse I've ever experienced.  I've already donated mine to Bertoxxulous.  It's 100% useless with the stats they've put on it.  Even the EM 2 hander is better with 2 less adornment slots than the x2 Wand + that crappy Heoric Red Slot offhand they put on a raid mob.</p></blockquote><p>+1</p><p>At least the dieties seem to like the crap that drops from these zones just fine. 5 months into the expansion and I'm not sure if *ANY* itmes have been fixed except for the Bow off Necretia, but that was an advantageous item to have the stats on these are detrimental and there sure as hell doesn't seem to be any real incentive for them to fix them.</p>

[Weyjaw]

<p>Wanted to bump this thread up and see if I could get an answer on this item that drops from Necretia Widowmaker in the x2 Tower of the Frozen Shadow.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p><p><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B_spquulLJLFODkxNjFiYjUtMTc5MS00MzE3LTk3NDk tYmQ1YzNjM2M2N2U2&export=download&hl=en_US" width="306" height="316" /></p><p>Now compare it with the priest drop from the same name.</p><p><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B_spquulLJLFZTE0YjVhODAtM2I0NS00NmI4LTk4Yzc tZDRhODQ1OThjM2Yx&export=download&hl=en_US" width="305" height="317" /></p><p>My questions are:</p> <p>1. Is this item in its current form correct? (If yes disregard questions 2-4)</p> <p>2. Should the mage item have the same attribute stats as the other class items? (+114 int +114 sta)</p> <p>3. Should it be [Secondary, Ranged] or just ranged? To match the other items from this mob.</p> <p>4. Should the Crit Chance be higher to match the priest item?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>This stat I am not sure about as there is a difference with almost all of the drops.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span></p><p>Thanks for any information you can give me,</p><p>Weyjaw</p>

[Trensharo]

<p>There's no excuse for the stats on this item.  The only thing right about it is the red Adornment slot.  Everything on it is wrong.</p><p>It only fits in Secondary.  It has too little STA/INT.  Too little Crit.  Too Little Potency/CB.  Prolly too little Reuse as well.</p><p>It is worse than a Secondary/Ranged Fabled form Kael Instances even with the Red Slot since you can't even put a War Rune in Secondary, so the red slot is barely worth equipping this item.</p><p>ToFS Pri+Sec is worse than the 2H staff that rots 90% of the time in Kraytoc EM even  with the extra 2 Adornment slots.  It's even worse with the terrible stats on this item.</p><p>I can't help but laugh at the people with the ToFS items equipped and the x4 Staff in their Appearance Slot.  Apparently a lot of people failed math.</p>

[Sacra Magice]

<p>Are we really gonna need to wait for GU 61 to have this item fixed?Just change the stats so they are in line with the rest of the zone + add ranged slot.</p><p>It would take me 15 sec [Removed for Content].</p>

[Trensharo]

<p><cite>Sacra Magice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Are we really gonna need to wait for GU 61 to have this item fixed?Just change the stats so they are in line with the rest of the zone + add ranged slot.</p><p>It would take me 15 sec [Removed for Content].</p></blockquote><p>The Hillarious thing is that they fixed the warrior x2 boot focuses in the last patch, but didn't even touch this.</p><p>Lol.</p><p>Why wasn't this caught in Beta?  It's a pretty obvious discrepency.  I can see how it may have been missed a wihle on Live since most people didn't play Beta and the Kael instances were so hard on release that many people didn't have a suitable basis for comparison.</p><p>An x2 item off that spider should not be inferior to an item from a trio or duo-able boss from a Kael Instance...</p><p>Giving feedback on these forums is useless, as well.  So I won't even bother in the future.  Waste of time.</p>