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Gorpier

06-07-2011, 07:04 AM

I'm just wondering, I've been playing for...6+ years? Anyway, In all that time, I've heard people asking the same questions. One of those questions, is player character vital statistics. You know, age, height, weight, etc... I've searched the forums and all over the net and only found a few sources, one being at my guild's web page. Not sure where it was coppied from, but its there. Though the information was long enough ago that certain races, such as Sarnak, Arasai and Freeblood do not appear on the list. This is a copy paste of said list for anyone interested in the information, and a request for information on Sarnak, Arasai and Freebloods! Please share what you have."From the EQ2 Role-players book. It's probably the only actual printed lore we've got with regards to race ages, how tall they generally are and their weight ranges. This was orignially posted on the Raven Mythic forums, and since corroborated by myself (having found a copy of the book in question).Barbarian. Min Height: 72in (6ft) Max Height: 94in (7ft10) Min Weight: 164lbs Max Weight: 352lbs Middle Age: 35, Old Age: 50, Venerable Age: 70, Maximum Age: 106Dark Elf. Min Height: 56in (4ft<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Max Height: 66in (5ft6) Min Weight: 87lbs Max Weight: 157lbs Middle Age: 200, Old Age: 280, Venerable Age: 360, Maximum Age: 660Dwarf. Min Height: 47in (3ft11) Max Height: 53in (4ft7) Min Weight: 124lbs Max Weight: 216lbs Middle Age: 125, Old Age: 175, Venerable Age: 250, Maximum Age: 450Erudite. Min Height: 64in (5ft4) Max Height: 82in (6ft<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Min Weight: 94lbs Max Weight: 250lbs Middle Age: 45, Old Age: 70, Venerable Age: 90, Maximum Age: 138Froglok. Min Height: 45in (3ft9) Max Height: 51in (4ft3) Min Weight: 59lbs Max Weight: 151lbs Middle Age: 30, Old Age: 40, Venerable Age: 55, Maximum Age: 75Gnome. Min Height: 37in (3ft1) Max Height: 43in (3ft9) Min Weight: 51lbs Max Weight: 66lbs Middle Age: 100, Old Age: 150, Venerable Age: 200, Maximum Age: 500Half Elf. Min Height: 58in (4ft10) Max Height: 76in (6ft4) Min Weight: 102lbs Max Weight: 220lbs Middle Age: 55, Old Age: 90, Venerable Age: 110, Maximum Age: 190Halfling. Min Height: 33in (2ft9) Max Height: 38in (3ft2) Min Weight: 36lbs Max Weight: 53lbs Middle Age: 50, Old Age: 75, Venerable Age: 100, Maximum Age: 220High Elf. Min Height: 57in (4ft9) Max Height: 67in (5ft7) Min Weight: 86lbs Max Weight: 157lbs Middle Age: 250, Old Age: 350, Venerable Age: 450, Maximum Age: 650Human. Min Height: 60in (5ft) Max Height: 78in (6ft6) Min Weight: 124lbs Max Weight: 280lbs Middle Age: 40, Old Age: 60, Venerable Age: 75, Maximum Age: 135Iksar. Min Height: 60in (5ft) Max Height: 78in (6ft6) Min Weight: 124lbs Max Weight: 280lbs Middle Age: 50, Old Age: 75, Venerable Age: 100, Maximum Age: 140Kerra. Min Height: 60in (5ft) Max Height: 78in (6ft6) Min Weight: 124lbs Max Weight: 280lbs Middle Age: 35, Old Age: 60, Venerable Age: 80, Maximum Age: 120Ogre. Min Height: 88in (7ft4) Max Height: 110in (9ft4) Min Weight: 284lbs Max Weight: 664lbs Middle Age: 30, Old Age: 45, Venerable Age: 60, Maximum Age: 80Ratonga. Min Height: 47in (3ft11) Max Height: 53in (4ft5) Min Weight: 52lbs Max Weight: 82lbs Middle Age: 70, Old Age: 110, Venerable Age: 140, Maximum Age: 220Troll. Min Height: 86in (7ft2) Max Height: 108in (9ft2) Min Weight: 274lbs Max Weight: 654lbs Middle Age: 35, Old Age: 50, Venerable Age: 65, Maximum Age: 89Wood Elf. Min Height: 55in (4ft7) Max Height: 65in (5ft5) Min Weight: 87lbs Max Weight: 157lbs Middle Age: 210, Old Age: 300, Venerable Age: 375, Maximum Age: 575Edited by Selistia Hourai 5/24/2011 3:28 PM (Most Recent)"I'm hoping someone can shed some light on some of the missing races for me please!

Meirril

06-07-2011, 11:47 AM

Unless one of the devs chimes in...we can't.We could start a thread on the exceptions to the rules though. Squire Fuzzymin and his Knight for the Thorn of Old HQ are the same NPCs as they were in Kunark. If High Elves are suppose to be Venerable (i.e. old and weak) at 450 then Terran of Terran's Grasp is unnaturally healthy considering that he was a guard at the Firona Vie outpost over 500 years ago.Just how old was Opal Darkbriar? Venerable at 360, she was a deep cover agent for Nerriak operating in Freeport back in EQ1. She didn't seem like a dottering old elf when every assassin was chasing her across Darklight Woods.I'm sure there are a few more that defy explination, though in general the devs did a good job of making most of the re-appearing NPCs undead or otherwise rendered immortal.

Cusashorn

06-07-2011, 07:41 PM

The pen and paper RPG is one thing, but the game itself is an entirely something else. Racial ages are intentionally left unknown in this game due to the fact that you can't die of age. Both Squire Fuzzmin and Fiddy Bobbick (even despite being possessed by a shadowman) should both have died more than 300 years ago. Queen Christanos would be within the last couple decades of her lifespan at the very maximum listed there. There are a few other NPC's that have been around since EQlive, and some of them who should rightfully be dead of old age because of it. BTW, the Arasai are... pretty much the exact same as the Fae. Maximum age of 70 or so, 2 feet tall (3 when floating), etc etc. Sarnaks can live to be at least 50 years old, since one of the quest NPC's in Timorous Deep says that she was around 50 years ago when the Sarnaks first emerged from their test tubes and development chambers and started to form their own society and city. Females stand 12 feet tall, while Males are 8 or 9 (can't remember which.) Freeblood: Your guess is as good as mine, what with very minimal lore they decided to throw at us just to give us something to give SOE an excuse to create the race. They seem to stand about 6 feet tall like the Humans do though.

LordPazuzu

06-08-2011, 09:00 AM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>The pen and paper RPG is one thing, but the game itself is an entirely something else. Racial ages are intentionally left unknown in this game due to the fact that you can't die of age. Both Squire Fuzzmin and Fiddy Bobbick (even despite being possessed by a shadowman) should both have died more than 300 years ago. Queen Christanos would be within the last couple decades of her lifespan at the very maximum listed there. There are a few other NPC's that have been around since EQlive, and some of them who should rightfully be dead of old age because of it. BTW, the Arasai are... pretty much the exact same as the Fae. Maximum age of 70 or so, 2 feet tall (3 when floating), etc etc. Sarnaks can live to be at least 50 years old, since one of the quest NPC's in Timorous Deep says that she was around 50 years ago when the Sarnaks first emerged from their test tubes and development chambers and started to form their own society and city. Females stand 12 feet tall, while Males are 8 or 9 (can't remember which.) Freeblood: Your guess is as good as mine, what with very minimal lore they decided to throw at us just to give us something to give SOE an excuse to create the race. They seem to stand about 6 feet tall like the Humans do though.</blockquote>I wouldn't use Christanos as a measuring stick, she's become more than just a standard dark elf. I think the RPG books are a convenient starting point if you like to RP in game. Just remember that this is a world of magic and interfering gods. Mortals can have their lifespans lengthened indefinitely via magical or divine means.

Rainmare

06-08-2011, 03:51 PM

okay here's one then Elizerain. she's roughly 2 millenia old before she dies, being Queen during the Lost age and dying shortly after the War of the Fay, I beleive. WELL over her 'max age'.Or Najena...she'd be fairly toward the end of her life as well.Fironia Vie. who appears to be completely youthful and hearty.though come to think of it, most of the 'exceptions' we know of are elves. maybe in EQ2 it's just the elves that are virtually timeless, the other races may be closer to that list.

Cusashorn

06-08-2011, 07:42 PM

<cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>The pen and paper RPG is one thing, but the game itself is an entirely something else. Racial ages are intentionally left unknown in this game due to the fact that you can't die of age. Both Squire Fuzzmin and Fiddy Bobbick (even despite being possessed by a shadowman) should both have died more than 300 years ago. Queen Christanos would be within the last couple decades of her lifespan at the very maximum listed there. There are a few other NPC's that have been around since EQlive, and some of them who should rightfully be dead of old age because of it. BTW, the Arasai are... pretty much the exact same as the Fae. Maximum age of 70 or so, 2 feet tall (3 when floating), etc etc. Sarnaks can live to be at least 50 years old, since one of the quest NPC's in Timorous Deep says that she was around 50 years ago when the Sarnaks first emerged from their test tubes and development chambers and started to form their own society and city. Females stand 12 feet tall, while Males are 8 or 9 (can't remember which.) Freeblood: Your guess is as good as mine, what with very minimal lore they decided to throw at us just to give us something to give SOE an excuse to create the race. They seem to stand about 6 feet tall like the Humans do though.</blockquote>I wouldn't use Christanos as a measuring stick, she's become more than just a standard dark elf. I think the RPG books are a convenient starting point if you like to RP in game. Just remember that this is a world of magic and interfering gods. Mortals can have their lifespans lengthened indefinitely via magical or divine means.</blockquote>You see all the racial ages listed up above? All of them have a maximum age. If that measurement of age is the same as the races listed from the EQ1 PnP RPG, then "Maximum" means the absolute longest a race can live by being extended further by magic. There's still absolutely no excuse for Squire Fuzzmin though. None, Nadda. Zilp, Zero. Nothing, not even magic, should be keeping him alive 500 years later.

Cusashorn

06-08-2011, 07:45 PM

<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>okay here's one then Elizerain. she's roughly 2 millenia old before she dies, being Queen during the Lost age and dying shortly after the War of the Fay, I beleive. WELL over her 'max age'.Or Najena...she'd be fairly toward the end of her life as well.Fironia Vie. who appears to be completely youthful and hearty.though come to think of it, most of the 'exceptions' we know of are elves. maybe in EQ2 it's just the elves that are virtually timeless, the other races may be closer to that list.</blockquote>Elves don't physically age like other races do. They don't have an age slider for their character models like Humans do.However, a High Elf's hair does eventually start to grey as they get on in years.Aside from Half Elves, all 3 elven races can live past 500 years, with the High Elves as far as 800 (As per the EQ1 RPG's guidelines), so seeing them in this game isn't that unusual. It's more unusual for the dark elves, who would generally be in their last few decades.

Ragnaphore

06-08-2011, 08:44 PM

The list is probably accurate for people who don't dabble in magic, meet the gods and/or travel to planes where time doesn't flow at the same speed than Norrath <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Rezikai

06-08-2011, 11:04 PM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>okay here's one then Elizerain. she's roughly 2 millenia old before she dies, being Queen during the Lost age and dying shortly after the War of the Fay, I beleive. WELL over her 'max age'.Or Najena...she'd be fairly toward the end of her life as well.Fironia Vie. who appears to be completely youthful and hearty.though come to think of it, most of the 'exceptions' we know of are elves. maybe in EQ2 it's just the elves that are virtually timeless, the other races may be closer to that list.</blockquote>Elves don't physically age like other races do. They don't have an age slider for their character models like Humans do.However, a High Elf's hair does eventually start to grey as they get on in years.Aside from Half Elves, all 3 elven races can live past 500 years, with the High Elves as far as 800 (As per the EQ1 RPG's guidelines), so seeing them in this game isn't that unusual. It's more unusual for the dark elves, who would generally be in their last few decades.</blockquote>Agreedwith the physical age for elves and such, the Ages of races with a set # isnt something that the devs nor lore enthusiats should get into since its never been put into hard #'s outside of the Pen&Paper games. Now we know from Vhalen that they looked at "ages" of races with <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=187367#2074048" target="_blank">generalized</a> timeframes.

LordPazuzu

06-09-2011, 08:59 AM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>The pen and paper RPG is one thing, but the game itself is an entirely something else. Racial ages are intentionally left unknown in this game due to the fact that you can't die of age. Both Squire Fuzzmin and Fiddy Bobbick (even despite being possessed by a shadowman) should both have died more than 300 years ago. Queen Christanos would be within the last couple decades of her lifespan at the very maximum listed there. There are a few other NPC's that have been around since EQlive, and some of them who should rightfully be dead of old age because of it. BTW, the Arasai are... pretty much the exact same as the Fae. Maximum age of 70 or so, 2 feet tall (3 when floating), etc etc. Sarnaks can live to be at least 50 years old, since one of the quest NPC's in Timorous Deep says that she was around 50 years ago when the Sarnaks first emerged from their test tubes and development chambers and started to form their own society and city. Females stand 12 feet tall, while Males are 8 or 9 (can't remember which.) Freeblood: Your guess is as good as mine, what with very minimal lore they decided to throw at us just to give us something to give SOE an excuse to create the race. They seem to stand about 6 feet tall like the Humans do though.</blockquote>I wouldn't use Christanos as a measuring stick, she's become more than just a standard dark elf. I think the RPG books are a convenient starting point if you like to RP in game. Just remember that this is a world of magic and interfering gods. Mortals can have their lifespans lengthened indefinitely via magical or divine means.</blockquote>You see all the racial ages listed up above? All of them have a maximum age. If that measurement of age is the same as the races listed from the EQ1 PnP RPG, then "Maximum" means the absolute longest a race can live by being extended further by magic. There's still absolutely no excuse for Squire Fuzzmin though. None, Nadda. Zilp, Zero. Nothing, not even magic, should be keeping him alive 500 years later.</blockquote>That is absolutely not what it means. It refers to the maximum extreme to their natural lifespan. Magic or divine intervention can make anything happen in a fantasy setting, that's a major point of their existence. They serve as plot devices as well as mechanical devices. Another thing that might possibly extend... or shorten, the natural lifespan of a mortal race is relocation to another Plane. Planes have characteristics which differ from the mortal realm. Example:Firiona Vie- If Tunare says "Live!" then she lives, regardless of what her natural lifespan should be. Why? Because Tunare is a god and she said so. That's one of the perks of godhood.Squire Fuzzmin- The Overrealm was part of the Plane of Sky. Perhaps the good Squire simply ceased aging, or aged slower, while the islands were still planar. Maybe now that the islands exist within the mortal world he'll age and die as normal? Just a guess, but a plausible one I'd say.

Aneova

06-09-2011, 11:07 AM

<cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>The pen and paper RPG is one thing, but the game itself is an entirely something else. Racial ages are intentionally left unknown in this game due to the fact that you can't die of age. Both Squire Fuzzmin and Fiddy Bobbick (even despite being possessed by a shadowman) should both have died more than 300 years ago. Queen Christanos would be within the last couple decades of her lifespan at the very maximum listed there. There are a few other NPC's that have been around since EQlive, and some of them who should rightfully be dead of old age because of it. BTW, the Arasai are... pretty much the exact same as the Fae. Maximum age of 70 or so, 2 feet tall (3 when floating), etc etc. Sarnaks can live to be at least 50 years old, since one of the quest NPC's in Timorous Deep says that she was around 50 years ago when the Sarnaks first emerged from their test tubes and development chambers and started to form their own society and city. Females stand 12 feet tall, while Males are 8 or 9 (can't remember which.) Freeblood: Your guess is as good as mine, what with very minimal lore they decided to throw at us just to give us something to give SOE an excuse to create the race. They seem to stand about 6 feet tall like the Humans do though.</blockquote>I wouldn't use Christanos as a measuring stick, she's become more than just a standard dark elf. I think the RPG books are a convenient starting point if you like to RP in game. Just remember that this is a world of magic and interfering gods. Mortals can have their lifespans lengthened indefinitely via magical or divine means.</blockquote>You see all the racial ages listed up above? All of them have a maximum age. If that measurement of age is the same as the races listed from the EQ1 PnP RPG, then "Maximum" means the absolute longest a race can live by being extended further by magic. There's still absolutely no excuse for Squire Fuzzmin though. None, Nadda. Zilp, Zero. Nothing, not even magic, should be keeping him alive 500 years later.</blockquote>That is absolutely not what it means. It refers to the maximum extreme to their natural lifespan. Magic or divine intervention can make anything happen in a fantasy setting, that's a major point of their existence. They serve as plot devices as well as mechanical devices. Another thing that might possibly extend... or shorten, the natural lifespan of a mortal race is relocation to another Plane. Planes have characteristics which differ from the mortal realm. Example:Firiona Vie- If Tunare says "Live!" then she lives, regardless of what her natural lifespan should be. Why? Because Tunare is a god and she said so. That's one of the perks of godhood.Squire Fuzzmin- The Overrealm was part of the Plane of Sky. Perhaps the good Squire simply ceased aging, or aged slower, while the islands were still planar. Maybe now that the islands exist within the mortal world he'll age and die as normal? Just a guess, but a plausible one I'd say.</blockquote>I don't think we ever got any dev to actually agree that The Overrealm was actually a piece of the Plane of Sky, unless it was when we held a gun to their head.

Cusashorn

06-09-2011, 05:58 PM

<cite>Aneova@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>The pen and paper RPG is one thing, but the game itself is an entirely something else. Racial ages are intentionally left unknown in this game due to the fact that you can't die of age. Both Squire Fuzzmin and Fiddy Bobbick (even despite being possessed by a shadowman) should both have died more than 300 years ago. Queen Christanos would be within the last couple decades of her lifespan at the very maximum listed there. There are a few other NPC's that have been around since EQlive, and some of them who should rightfully be dead of old age because of it. BTW, the Arasai are... pretty much the exact same as the Fae. Maximum age of 70 or so, 2 feet tall (3 when floating), etc etc. Sarnaks can live to be at least 50 years old, since one of the quest NPC's in Timorous Deep says that she was around 50 years ago when the Sarnaks first emerged from their test tubes and development chambers and started to form their own society and city. Females stand 12 feet tall, while Males are 8 or 9 (can't remember which.) Freeblood: Your guess is as good as mine, what with very minimal lore they decided to throw at us just to give us something to give SOE an excuse to create the race. They seem to stand about 6 feet tall like the Humans do though.</blockquote>I wouldn't use Christanos as a measuring stick, she's become more than just a standard dark elf. I think the RPG books are a convenient starting point if you like to RP in game. Just remember that this is a world of magic and interfering gods. Mortals can have their lifespans lengthened indefinitely via magical or divine means.</blockquote>You see all the racial ages listed up above? All of them have a maximum age. If that measurement of age is the same as the races listed from the EQ1 PnP RPG, then "Maximum" means the absolute longest a race can live by being extended further by magic. There's still absolutely no excuse for Squire Fuzzmin though. None, Nadda. Zilp, Zero. Nothing, not even magic, should be keeping him alive 500 years later.</blockquote>That is absolutely not what it means. It refers to the maximum extreme to their natural lifespan. Magic or divine intervention can make anything happen in a fantasy setting, that's a major point of their existence. They serve as plot devices as well as mechanical devices. Another thing that might possibly extend... or shorten, the natural lifespan of a mortal race is relocation to another Plane. Planes have characteristics which differ from the mortal realm. Example:Firiona Vie- If Tunare says "Live!" then she lives, regardless of what her natural lifespan should be. Why? Because Tunare is a god and she said so. That's one of the perks of godhood.Squire Fuzzmin- The Overrealm was part of the Plane of Sky. Perhaps the good Squire simply ceased aging, or aged slower, while the islands were still planar. Maybe now that the islands exist within the mortal world he'll age and die as normal? Just a guess, but a plausible one I'd say.</blockquote>I don't think we ever got any dev to actually agree that The Overrealm was actually a piece of the Plane of Sky, unless it was when we held a gun to their head.</blockquote>What about the various NPCs in the game who confirm it is?

Garnaf

06-13-2011, 05:50 PM

<cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Firiona Vie- If Tunare says "Live!" then she lives, regardless of what her natural lifespan should be. Why? Because Tunare is a god and she said so. That's one of the perks of godhood.</blockquote>This is pretty much it. Askr the Lost is still alive as a Half Elf as the Prophet of Karana because Karana KEEPS him alive. (Being the Avatar of Storms during the Battle of Defiance has its perks). 190 Years? Nope, God of Storms says "Til I say otherwise"Danak, the Prophet of Fear, is pretty much in the same boat. Made immortal by Cazic-Thule for the hell of it. (He wasn't a regular EQ1 fixture, but he did show up in events from time to time. He's the one who kidnapped Firiona Vie and kicked off EQ1 Kunark).Most of the old EQ1 NPCs that show up at least have one excuse or another (Dartain's time in Underfoot changed him, etc). It's easier to list those that don't have these excuses, like Fuzzmin. However the age ranges given in the Pen and Paper books aren't strictly canon. (I think)