FPS Cuts In Half In Windowed Mode? [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

GekkodaWhite

06-03-2011, 06:02 PM

I like playing in windowed mode, but my fps cuts in half when I do. Anyone else have this issue, or does anyone know a fix? I thank you in advance for your help.

TSR-JoshuaM

06-03-2011, 06:06 PM

I lose about 5 FPS switching to Windows while in Extreme Quality.Can you post your DXDIAG information? We just need the top 3 sections - system,display,sound devices.

GekkodaWhite

06-03-2011, 06:17 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>I lose about 5 FPS switching to Windows while in Extreme Quality.Can you post your DXDIAG information? We just need the top 3 sections - system,display,sound devices.</blockquote>In balanced I go from 41-42 to 20-21 fps in windowed mode. Below is info you asked for thank you for your help.------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 6/3/2011, 17:14:07 Machine name: SLY-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432) Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: System manufacturer System Model: System Product Name BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz Memory: 8190MB RAM Page File: 2987MB used, 17238MB available Windows Dir: C:Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode------------DxDiag Notes------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. 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TSR-JoshuaM

06-03-2011, 06:24 PM

As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a>

GekkodaWhite

06-03-2011, 07:09 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?

GekkodaWhite

06-03-2011, 07:15 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>Can I use this to update DX insted <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/confirmation.aspx?familyid=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en</a>

TSR-JoshuaM

06-03-2011, 07:20 PM

<cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>Can I use this to update DX insted <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/confirmation.aspx?familyid=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en</a></blockquote>No, as it will see DX10 and 11 as current and not update you to the latest DX9 specific revision in every circumstance. Use the link I provided above.

TSR-JoshuaM

06-03-2011, 07:21 PM

<cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.

GekkodaWhite

06-03-2011, 07:26 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Ok your still not getting one thing though it installs 157 zip files that are all dated and have either x64 or x86 in titles too. Which one you want me to extract. Example one zip file is nammed Apr2005_d3dx9_25_x86

GekkodaWhite

06-03-2011, 07:28 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Does eq2 not supplor the dx 10 or 11 is that what your saying? Sorry for another post.

Peogia

06-03-2011, 08:56 PM

<cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Does eq2 not supplor the dx 10 or 11 is that what your saying? Sorry for another post.</blockquote>Everquest II is direct x 8 shader 1.0and they have a hybrid 3.0 that is a mix of 1.0 and 3.0<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader</a>Everquest II doesn't support dx10 or dx11 ect but you can run it on these cards I think nvidia still supports dx9+ but not sure about 8 haven't seen that in in up date notes in a while

Wingrider01

06-04-2011, 09:01 AM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Does eq2 not supplor the dx 10 or 11 is that what your saying? Sorry for another post.</blockquote>Everquest II is direct x 8 shader 1.0and they have a hybrid 3.0 that is a mix of 1.0 and 3.0<a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader</a>Everquest II doesn't support dx10 or dx11 ect but you can run it on these cards I think nvidia still supports dx9+ but not sure about 8 haven't seen that in in up date notes in a while</blockquote>directx use API coding calls, as long as the Microsoft supports the older versions of Directx Nvidia drivers will automagicly support them, still run old games for the children that where written with the first release of directx - 2.0A that shipped with Microsoft Windows 95 OSR2.

Smirk

06-04-2011, 09:06 AM

<cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Ok your still not getting one thing though it installs 157 zip files that are all dated and have either x64 or x86 in titles too. Which one you want me to extract. Example one zip file is nammed Apr2005_d3dx9_25_x86</blockquote>go to where you extracted all those however many zipfiles it is and find DXSETUP.exe, run it, done!

TSR-JoshuaM

06-04-2011, 01:49 PM

<cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Ok your still not getting one thing though it installs 157 zip files that are all dated and have either x64 or x86 in titles too. Which one you want me to extract. Example one zip file is nammed Apr2005_d3dx9_25_x86</blockquote>Those zip files do not need to be touched, only the initial download that asks you where you want to extract it to. Among those 157 zip files is a DXSETUP.exe file. Find it and run it.

GekkodaWhite

06-09-2011, 05:10 PM

<cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GekkodaWhite wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as that information is concerned, it looks like everything is in order. There is an update to DirectX 9.0c that I would like you to run just in case and test it again.<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d" target="_blank">[DX9] June 2010</a></blockquote>When I save it that download opens like 60 zip files. Which zip file you want me to use, and where do you want me to extract that too?</blockquote>Extract it to any folder you know how to get to. Once extracted, browse to that folder and run the DXSETUP file to start the actual update itself.</blockquote>Ok your still not getting one thing though it installs 157 zip files that are all dated and have either x64 or x86 in titles too. Which one you want me to extract. Example one zip file is nammed Apr2005_d3dx9_25_x86</blockquote>Those zip files do not need to be touched, only the initial download that asks you where you want to extract it to. Among those 157 zip files is a DXSETUP.exe file. Find it and run it.</blockquote>Done very little change. Any other ideas? Thank you for your help.

TSR-JoshuaM

06-09-2011, 05:28 PM

Theres another AERO option I want you to test. Typically, this should not make as big of an impact as you describe but is responsible for some FPS loss in windowed mode.You can open your control panel with Start > control panel > and type Aero in the search box.You want the Enable or disable Transparent glass on windows options. Set that to off and let me know how much of an increase it nets you.

GekkodaWhite

06-30-2011, 08:56 PM

Very little change either way. Mabey 1 or 2 fps better with Areo.

TSR-JoshuaM

07-01-2011, 11:45 AM

Have you already updated to the latest ATI drivers available? They had 11.6 released recently. It has been very successful among the community.