Too high damage from predators

[OzNeK]

<p>I am lvl 90 dirge, i have 45 critical mitigation and 20k hp averge pvp staff</p><p>Assassins kills me by using shadow step and double decap(i dont talk about situations when i can use my 100% pary skill and etc)</p><p>Rangers kills me with auto + 1-3 range skills</p><p>I think predators need to nerf their +40000000000 crit mod in pvp and +0.40 auto its too imba vs all classes.</p>

[OzNeK]

<p>Btw Predators no need any skill to play.</p><p><span ><span >Assassins  no need to</span> <span >approach close, no need to use invis just press 4 buttons use double skils and you'll got ur fame + tokens.</span></span></p><p>Same with rangers</p><p>Soe made HUGE fail with that abilities, imbalance damage from auto, max speed and double skills  + 40 cb ults [Removed for Content]? Its the predatorquest?</p>

[Sprin]

<p>play a brawler and those predators are ez updates...</p>

[Crismorn]

<p>Fighters, Sorcs and Preds are loving PvP before and after the update, looks like a bunch of us rolled the wrong class</p>

[Corydonn]

<p>Ranged autoattack from everyone is a bit high right now.</p>

[patrck17]

As questionable the OP's speech patterns are he may have a point regarding the dps coming from predators. Other posts are correct too. Time to jumpship from the healzor and go back to the rangzor.

[Seliri]

<p><span style="color: #ff6600;">yeahp, preds are layin the venerable smackdown, bigtime O_o.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">had a sin in a mix of non-challengers/challengers SF PvP gear & DoF raid accessories slice me guts in like 3 seconds after he hid behind a statue while the SK furor riposte was up.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">i got him to like, 3%, but he healed up right quick after that.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">i have 130% pvp crit mit.</span></p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Corydonn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Ranged</span> autoattack from everyone is a bit high right now.</p></blockquote>

[Tenka]

as long as wiz/locks are tanking i refuse to believe auto atk dmg is too high.

[Blambil]

<p><cite>Seliri wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">yeahp, preds are layin the venerable smackdown, bigtime O_o.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">had a sin in a mix of non-challengers/challengers SF PvP gear & DoF raid accessories slice me guts in like 3 seconds after he hid behind a statue while the SK furor riposte was up.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">i got him to like, 3%, but he healed up right quick after that.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">i have 130% pvp crit mit.</span></p></blockquote><p>Same story repeatedly last night... </p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><cite>Tenka@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>as long as wiz/locks are tanking i refuse to believe auto atk dmg is too high.</blockquote><p>+1</p>

[Jacquotte]

<p><cite>OzNeK wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am lvl 90 dirge, i have 45 critical mitigation and 20k hp averge pvp staff</p><p>Assassins kills me by using shadow step and double decap(i dont talk about situations when i can use my 100% pary skill and etc)</p><p>Rangers kills me with auto + 1-3 range skills</p><p>I think predators need to nerf their +40000000000 crit mod in pvp and +0.40 auto its too imba vs all classes.</p></blockquote><p>predator           pred·a·tor [ préddətər ] (plural pred·a·tors)</p><p>noun   Definition:   1. carnivorous animal or destructive organism: a carnivorous animal that hunts, kills, and eats other animals in order to survive, or any other organism that behaves in a similar manner</p><p> 2. somebody who plunders or destroys: a person, group, company, or state that steals from others or destroys others for gain</p><p> 3. ruthlessly aggressive person: an aggressive, determined, or persistent person</p><p> [Early 20th century. < Latin praedator< praedari "seize as plunder" (see predatory)]  </p><p>---</p><p>which part is in any way unclear to you?</p><p>a buffbot like you should never be able to survive T1 dps</p><p>edit: didnt mean to come off so harsh, was just saying: choose your opponents wisely - you cannot expect to beat every single class in the game</p><p>still, dealing out 30-40k dmg in a flurry+multiattack+procs is just silly</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p>Did it ever occur to you that you have things to use to solve that issue, i could complain about how you can go around for 15-20 seconds with immunity to melee dmg, or you can fear people, or you can stun, debuff, but that's your class, plus if you nerf one you got to nerf the other.</p>

[Buttcliffe]

<p>I can understand the problem. Predators do hit hard still after the update. Nowhere near as hard as before, where you could double assassinate people for 60k damage (silly really) but still hitting hard. Even general abilities like storm of arrows were hitting with crazy damage. Before the update they definitely needed some attention. Previously ranger could just drop from their mount and kill with no problem, now they cant do it as easily.</p><p>They are not alone though in dishing out high damage, I have been playing a lot with a wiz and he is destroying people just as quickly. Other classes too like swash/brig kicking it out in the right gear. Conj/Necro also beasts with better survivability.</p><p>Dirge/Troub also strong with the crazy 20 second damage immunity and mad auto attack damage (Auto Attack damage is another different issue that needs addressing).</p><p>To the OP, I would say that 40% PvP Crit Mit is not enough to cut it now. There is no excuse for having less than 100% PvP Crit Mit now that there is excellent DoV crafted PvP armor with 2 blue adorn slots. Also, I think 20k HP is a bit low and you should be able to get it higher.</p><p>More than anything its about awareness. A class with track should not be allowing an Assassin to really sneak up on them. If you think one is about, dont lock yourself in combat. Remember the names of the assassins that are about in the zone. Create several /ta macros and add their name etc. If you are unsure where they are, just fly into the air till you get their target.</p><p>The number of scouts running around without vision totems on a pvp server is pretty crazy....</p><p>Catflap/Fearborn</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p>Nice heals btw cat^ you were a pain in the a%^ in freeport yesterday</p>

[Buttcliffe]

<p>Thanks twin, was a good fight, we lacked the DPS to win, but great fun and well done.</p><p>We are coming back today I hope, city pvp rocks!</p><p>Get more of your faction out pls, we need more guys like you to bring the pvp balance back.</p><p>Q at the moment have too much numerical superiority.</p><p>Catflap/Fearborn</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p>Yeah, that has been a issue I have been sneaking around to get kills lol</p>

[Jacquotte]

<p><cite>Catflap@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thanks twin, was a good fight, we lacked the DPS to win, but great fun and well done.</p><p>We are coming back today I hope, city pvp rocks!</p><p>Get more of your faction out pls, we need more guys like you to bring the pvp balance back.</p><p>Q at the moment have too much numerical superiority.</p><p>Catflap/Fearborn</p></blockquote><p>do you still get double famegain/-loss in citypvp?</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p>I only got 6 points</p>