Updating files for launcher

[vexrm]

<p>Every time I start the launcher I get a dialog saying "updating files for launcher" and it gets maybe 10% of the way done, just sits there for about 5 minutes and then the real launcher pops up. 3 minutes later the dialog goes away.</p><p>I'm using the most recent station launcher.</p>

[Seffrid]

<p>Same here.</p>

[Bunji]

<p>Hmm, if you're running Vista/Win 7, try right-clicking the desktop icon for the patcher and choosing run as admin.</p>

[MaggiePainstealer]

<p>Me too, except I never get the real launcher to launch.  Instead I get a message, "Unable to load application files from c:programdatasony online entertainmentstation launchermain."</p><p>I have uninstalled the Launcher, re-downloaded the latest version and re-installed it.</p><p>Same problem.</p><p>The only wrinkle I can think of is that recently (a couple months ago) I cancelled my Station Pass and subscribed to EQ2 only.  So perhaps I don't need the Station Launcher, but some other kind of EQ2-only launcher?</p><p>Thanks for any insights you can share!</p><p>Lisa Levitt</p>

[Dreyco]

<p><cite>MaggiePainstealer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Me too, except I never get the real launcher to launch.  Instead I get a message, "Unable to load application files from c:programdatasony online entertainmentstation launchermain."</p><p>I have uninstalled the Launcher, re-downloaded the latest version and re-installed it.</p><p>Same problem.</p><p>The only wrinkle I can think of is that recently (a couple months ago) I cancelled my Station Pass and subscribed to EQ2 only.  So perhaps I don't need the Station Launcher, but some other kind of EQ2-only launcher?</p><p>Thanks for any insights you can share!</p><p>Lisa Levitt</p></blockquote><p>Try.. <a href="http://launch.soe.com/eq2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://launch.soe.com/eq2</a></p>

[Bekkr]

<p><cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Try.. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://launch.soe.com/eq2" target="_blank">http://launch.soe.com/eq2</a></p></blockquote><p>The connection has timed out                  The server at launch.soe.com is taking too long to respond.  The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few    moments.  If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network    connection.  If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure    that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[drakkenshie]

<p><cite>Bunji wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hmm, if you're running Vista/Win 7, try right-clicking the desktop icon for the patcher and choosing run as admin.</p></blockquote><p>You should never have to do that.</p><p>If the game installs properly to ProgramData you should never have to run as admin. If you do, something is wrong.</p><p>Also running the launcher as admin is a good way to let one of its many bugs make things even worse.</p><p>I recently ran launcher and everything in the Sony directory got marked read-only, and it was definitely the launcher. I have no idea how or why, but I watched it happen.</p><p>Possibly the launcher does that for protection, but it seems to not reset to writable during the decompression phase of the patch, so I have to manually fix it.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>With UAC present, applications installed in to protected folders may need to be run as admin, and it isn't an indication of a problem beyond your own security settings and whether or not they are being applied properly.</p><p>The launcher isn't marking read-only files, that is the inheritable permissions from the installed folder (ProgramData typically) being applied to the children objects.</p>

[drakkenshie]

<p><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With UAC present, applications installed in to protected folders may need to be run as admin, and it isn't an indication of a problem beyond your own security settings and whether or not they are being applied properly.</p><p>The launcher isn't marking read-only files, that is the inheritable permissions from the installed folder (ProgramData typically) being applied to the children objects.</p></blockquote><p>The point of ProgramData is to avoid running programs that store data in their own folders as administrator. It is a virtualized folder that does not require adminstration rights to write to. That's what programdata is for: it is not a protected folder. If you have to run as admin for something installed there, something is wrong. I've even asked Microsoft support about it, and their answer is: the developer is doing something wrong.</p><p>As far as inheritable permissions goes, I understand that for created objects, but not one that was previously not set that way. The fact is the sequence is this:</p><p>- folder is writable</p><p>- run launcher</p><p>- launcher works or sometimes fails</p><p>- folder is read-only (if it failed above)</p><p>I've tested it a lot. If station launcher is not doing this, then something about how it is written is triggering it.</p><p>I have a lot of programs that use ProgramData, and they aren't giving me issues like this, so obviously it can be done.</p>