View Full Version : The Levathan - HOW?
CrisuK0M13
04-24-2011, 11:13 PM
<p>How do you engage this boss?</p><p>We have the fish suits, we have people suited up, but as soon as we run in, he AOE's and kills everyone.</p><p>We've tried having the people with suits stand in the water, he AOE's and kills everyone.</p><p>We've tried to have the people in the suits stand on the circle things and he AOE's and kills everyone.</p><p>Does anyone have an idea on how to do this? He seems to be just AOEing everyone and killing them, regardless if we have people suited up or not.</p><p>Thanks!</p>
hellfire
04-24-2011, 11:30 PM
<p>Everyone run into the water and auto attack him.</p><p>Have high dps suit up one at a time get swallowed and kill mobs in the stomach.</p><p>Have them or anyone in a suit loot the mobs that was killed in the stomach and loot the vials from the dead mobs.</p><p>Give all the vials to high potency,casting ability <generally mage> class ...have them suit up get swallowed and blow the mob up with the vials when in the stomach.</p><p>20 pct or so need to click the idol/orb out of the water</p><p>Finsh him off with more vials or just slowly dps him down with normal damage.</p>
Hateeternal
04-25-2011, 12:09 AM
<p>Hi there, I think you're just doing it wrong.</p><p>Noone can cast any spell or combat attack on that mob as it will reflect it and kill you.</p><p>Best thing is to place <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>everybody</em></span> on the stone just in front of him, turn on autoattack and go afk or something.</p><p>Healers keep healing and curing and of course one person always needs to be ready in a fishsuit to be eaten and kill the mobs in it's stomach like it was said before.</p><p>good luck <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
yohann koldheart
04-25-2011, 12:26 AM
<p><cite>Hateeternal wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi there, I think you're just doing it wrong.</p><p>Noone can cast any spell or combat attack on that mob as it will reflect it and kill you.</p><p>Best thing is to place <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>everybody</em></span> on the stone just in front of him, turn on autoattack and go afk or something.</p><p>Healers keep healing and curing and of course one person always needs to be ready in a fishsuit to be eaten and kill the mobs in it's stomach like it was said before.</p><p>good luck <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>not entirely true, he has a reflect buff he puts on himslef that makes him reflect everything . but when its down you can cast spells, and ca's. </p>
Brigh
04-25-2011, 12:54 AM
Serene Symbol or other such dispel ability to remove the reflect.
Troubor
04-25-2011, 05:35 AM
<p><cite>Brigh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Serene Symbol or other such dispel ability to remove the reflect.</blockquote><p>Doom Judgement works as well, although the recast is a lot slower then Serene Symbol if memory serves me right. Even though it's literally been years since I fought Levithian, my paladin's doom judgement is still macroed due to that, so that our raid's druids (and if another crusader was along, that fellow) could help time when to cast their spell as well. I left the macro on just because I like it, and well no-one has complained yet. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>edit: Changed 'casting time" to 'recast time". <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Chefren
04-25-2011, 05:44 AM
<p><cite>Scanki@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Hateeternal wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi there, I think you're just doing it wrong.</p><p>Noone can cast any spell or combat attack on that mob as it will reflect it and kill you.</p><p>Best thing is to place <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>everybody</em></span> on the stone just in front of him, turn on autoattack and go afk or something.</p><p>Healers keep healing and curing and of course one person always needs to be ready in a fishsuit to be eaten and kill the mobs in it's stomach like it was said before.</p><p>good luck <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>not entirely true, he has a reflect buff he puts on himslef that makes him reflect everything . but when its down you can cast spells, and ca's. </p></blockquote><p>And not all skills are reflected.</p>
CoLD MeTaL
04-25-2011, 10:01 AM
<p>Only ONE person in a fish suit at a time or it's insta wipe, if I remember correctly.</p>
Quicksilver74
04-25-2011, 10:37 AM
<p><cite>CoLD MeTaL wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Only ONE person in a fish suit at a time or it's insta wipe, if I remember correctly.</p></blockquote><p>you can have multiple, but he'll only eat one, typically the one that's closest to him. </p><p> He does the insta-wipe if 2 conditions aren't met.</p><p><ol><li>The Leviathan's Target, (Typically the MT) MUST be within melee range of the leviathan. You want everyone close though in case the MT dies, or if someone rips aggro they have to be close. If at any time the Leviathan has a target that is too far away, he'll wipe you all and break armor. </li><li>He tries to eat a fishman, yet nobody is suited up. He usually tries to eat a fishman like 30 seconds after he spits the previous fishman out. </li></ol></p>
ffd700
04-25-2011, 11:02 AM
<p>Wasn't there a fail condition too if someone stepped off the sandy area onto the green stuff? Or is that just being too far away and he might have targeted them?</p>
Pakhet
04-25-2011, 01:48 PM
<p>Also, when he gets to a certain % you have to have someone use the stone from the last boss in PR on the orb over by the wall, or he will kill you all.</p>
Gilasil
04-25-2011, 02:43 PM
<p>Yes. I think there's a yellow line around his pool (it's been awhile although I used to help out a lot with him). You MUST be inside it if you're going to cast anything at all. If you die, you have to get back in place without casting ANYTHING. This includes heal spells or any buffs that need to be reapplied. You might take some potions. Oh yes, I think he had some sort of dot (can't remember what kind now) and we all took a big stack of potions to counteract it. The healers could usually handle it but it was nice to have a potion as a backup. Many people would just automatically pop a pot just to be sure. The DOT hit at just about the same rate as the refresh rate for the pots.</p><p>I think single target abilities were ok (at least if they reflected they only got you and not everyone). Stay away from the blue and green ones unless you know for a fact they're ok. They probably aren't.</p><p>This was one place where, in the bad old days when brawlers were otherwise useless, they could really help out since they had decent survivability vs solo mobs and some really good abilities for dispatching them (which weren't nearly as good vs epic mobs). I seem to recall I'd go in, blast one with devestation fist, kill another with knockout combo, and get ported out. The only thing which would slow me down is if I had to take some time chasing down the mobs. By the time I was up again in the rotation devestation fist would have recycled. If I needed healing while inside I had my little self-heal (it's ok to use abilities while inside). I got swallowed many many times to go in and kill his stomach mobs. I think I still have a few fish suits in my inventory.</p><p>On the other hand, Leviathan also typifies so much of what I think is wrong with the raiding scene. Multiple ridiculous fail conditions which make no sense. Raiding in EQ2 is more like choreographed dancing then it is about doing battle.</p>
The_Cheeseman
04-25-2011, 07:35 PM
<p>I believe that the fail AoE is also triggered if you drop below a certain DPS threshold. As I recall, this was done to keep the people on the outside auto-attacking him the entire time so his damage-shield wasn't totally pointless. Also, as I recall, his reflect ability does not affect combat arts, so fighters and scouts can be useful in that regard. Then again, it has been a really long time since I killed him, so I could be remembering wrong.</p>
ranga
04-26-2011, 03:09 PM
<p>If you dont kill him in 18 mins ( I think) he will nuke yr raid too with ?Devastating? Mist or something like that.</p>
Morrias
04-26-2011, 03:45 PM
<p><cite>ranga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you dont kill him in 18 mins ( I think) he will nuke yr raid too with ?Devastating? Mist or something like that.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think this fight is timed.</p><p>He mass AEs for the following events:</p><p>No ones suited up when he wants to eat someone</p><p>DPS on him is too low (around 15k I think)</p><p>The orb doesn't get clicked in time</p><p>Someone is too far away for too long (thats the one that eats your armor)</p><p>I could be wrong but that's how I remember the fight..</p>
Minraja
04-26-2011, 09:58 PM
<p><cite>Ukae@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ranga wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you dont kill him in 18 mins ( I think) he will nuke yr raid too with ?Devastating? Mist or something like that.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think this fight is timed.</p><p>He mass AEs for the following events:</p><p>No ones suited up when he wants to eat someone</p><p>DPS on him is too low (around 15k I think)</p><p>The orb doesn't get clicked in time</p><p>Someone is too far away for too long (thats the one that eats your armor)</p><p>I could be wrong but that's how I remember the fight..</p></blockquote><p>There is a timer on him. If you don't kill him within 15-20 minutes, he nukes the entire raid with a failure AOE. It hits you with an uncurable dot that crushes your gear down to 50%ish and ticks some nasty damage. I have seen it many times while farming fluids to kill him.</p>
Chefren
04-28-2011, 02:02 PM
<p><cite>Ukae@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Someone is too far away for too long (thats the one that eats your armor)</p></blockquote><p>Also if whoever has aggo is out of reach, he (it?) AoEs - to prevent exploiting the fact that he is rooted.</p>
feldon30
04-28-2011, 04:37 PM
<p><cite>Scanki@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Hateeternal wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi there, I think you're just doing it wrong.</p><p>Noone can cast any spell or combat attack on that mob as it will reflect it and kill you.</p><p>Best thing is to place <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>everybody</em></span> on the stone just in front of him, turn on autoattack and go afk or something.</p><p>Healers keep healing and curing and of course one person always needs to be ready in a fishsuit to be eaten and kill the mobs in it's stomach like it was said before.</p><p>good luck <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>not entirely true, he has a reflect buff he puts on himslef that makes him reflect everything . but when its down you can cast spells, and ca's. </p></blockquote><p>Maybe with the massive amounts of potency and crit bonus available today, this 2-3 second gap between his reflect shield being up might amount to more than 1% of killing him. Having everyone go AFK except folks with high crit and healers is usually the safest answer.</p>
Meinen
04-28-2011, 05:18 PM
<p>swash or brigs taunt also dispells his dmg proc and its up every 15sec (no reuse buffs).</p>
<p>I remember dispelling his reflect ... i don't think that the raid dps matter but dispelling the reflect may allow the tank to keep taunting and dealing damage.</p><p>The encounter is soporific for the people who stay out, a bit of curing here and there and moderate healing ... zzzz</p><p>Only fun for people with suits.</p>
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