Old Man Dave and Test Buffer Information

[Amnerys]

<p>The following threads contain information about Test/Test Copy server buffers. Please check them out before making new threads.</p><ul><li><a href="list.m?topic_id=492312">Old Man Dave Buffer.</a></li><li><a href="list.m?topic_id=495630">Lord Bob/Old Man Dave</a></li><li><span><a href="list.m?topic_id=458513">Can someone please spawn the buffer on test Please ???</a> </span> <span> </span></li><li><a href="list.m?topic_id=497759">Test_Copy: Old Man Dave</a></li><li><a href="list.m?topic_id=498800">Lady Luck Buffer</a></li></ul>

[hobo909]

<p>y not jest pop the buffers? i jest would like to know if we r testing for there to be less bus omd/lord bob/the 3 omds should always be up well that the way i see it</p>

[Zangetsu]

<p>...I did not understand one thing you said Hobo. I'll awnser what I can guess out which is why there are no high end buffers up. When there are high end zones that haven't been tested and are on Test Copy specifically for testing then we will have a buffer to give gear that is equal to what either we receive in that zone or what we would need to start attempting that zone.</p>

[hobo909]

<p>to make it more clear i ment y not jest leave all end game buffers up full time much easier</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Except that they're not a permanent fixture and would be both on Live and Test if they were implemented that way.</p>

[Zangetsu]

<p><cite>hobo909 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>to make it more clear i ment y not jest leave all end game buffers up full time much easier</p></blockquote><p>If the end game buffers were always up, what would happen when we need to test something that is NOT End-game, Such as a new Heroic Instance or x2 raid zone. How is it good test data to do those zones with the top end x4 Hardmode gear?</p>

[hobo909]

<p>yes it would not be the best feed back but what if the zone that is not high end is to hard then we cant find the bugs in the zones</p>

[Kryvak]

<p>In case devs aren't aware of this, more than half the active players on the server have Old Man Dave's Beta Buffing Bauble, which skews any feedback even more because how you do in a zone pretty much depends on whether you have people with the raid gear or not.</p>

[Alenna]

<p>Lady luck is awol I wanted to buff tradeskill and adventure today and no lady luck at the nursery in GF where she was yesterday.</p><p>Please spawn her.</p>

[Ilovecows]

<p>Will there be a buffer for pvp gear?  and if so, when will he or she appear?</p>

[Scampy]

<p>Hey there would it be possible to have the pvp merchants not require faction so we can give proper feedback? sorry if thats rude but why put faction on testcopy , im on there to try and give feedback and cant because it requires faction so if possible could we see a faction buffer or remove faction needed for pvp gear , thank you <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Alenna]

<p>when is Lady luck the buffer going to be respawned been waiting all week for her to be respawned why didn't you spawn her with this update?</p>

[Ilovecows]

<p>No one in game seems to know where the buffers are and anywhere any posts have said one is in the past there are none.  Can someone please just tell me where they are, and if they aren't spawned can someone please spawn them?</p>

[Piccolo]

<p><cite>Ilovecows@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No one in game seems to know where the buffers are and anywhere any posts have said one is in the past there are none.  Can someone please just tell me where they are, and if they aren't spawned can someone please spawn them?</p></blockquote><p><strong>QFE</strong></p>

[Domino]

<p>Unfortunately, switching the server from PvE to PvP disables the buffers. I have manually spawned Lady Luck in the 4 starting city newbie areas, plus Shady the guild buffer is up once again on the docks in Antonica/Commonlands. As long as the server remains PvP however they may vanish if it goes down. I'll try to find time to put in a more permanent fix.</p>

[Kryvak]

<p>Could we get the PvP gear testing merchant to give tokens for the adornments, jewelry and weapons that it doesn't give or get that gear on it? Thanks!</p>

[Kryvak]

<p>After testing around a bit, you can easily tell that the people that received Old Man Dave's raid gear have a HUGE advantage over anyone who missed that. I was killed extremely fast by a necro and an assassin, while they only took minimal damage. This is really unbalanced and will completely skew feedback about PvP testing.</p>

[Ilovecows]

<p><cite>Kryvak@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>After testing around a bit, you can easily tell that the people that received Old Man Dave's raid gear have a HUGE advantage over anyone who missed that. I was killed extremely fast by a necro and an assassin, while they only took minimal damage. This is really unbalanced and will completely skew feedback about PvP testing.</p></blockquote><p>the best way to make pvp feedback the best it can be is to give everyone pvp gear so we can test it out with that... as it is I believe you can only get pve gear unless you take the time to grind the pvp faction to get pvp gear...  Have Lady Luck give either pvp gear or enough faction for us to buy pvp gear please.</p>

[Chukuo]

<p>You can get the gear from a sister merchant in NFP or QH. She is a new one and has a quest feather over her head.</p>

[Kryvak]

<p><cite>Ilovecows@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kryvak@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>After testing around a bit, you can easily tell that the people that received Old Man Dave's raid gear have a HUGE advantage over anyone who missed that. I was killed extremely fast by a necro and an assassin, while they only took minimal damage. This is really unbalanced and will completely skew feedback about PvP testing.</p></blockquote><p>the best way to make pvp feedback the best it can be is to give everyone pvp gear so we can test it out with that... as it is I believe you can only get pve gear unless you take the time to grind the pvp faction to get pvp gear...  Have Lady Luck give either pvp gear or enough faction for us to buy pvp gear please.</p></blockquote><p>If you read Domino's earlier post, there is a Test Armor vendor that gives PvP gear. The vendor only gives the armor though, so you're only getting half a set.</p>

[Alenna]

<p>buffers are not there please respawn them</p>

[Aglorious]

<p>Hello can you spawn maybe the PvP Test copy gear buffer back to the city`s ? he was yesterday up but not today more..</p>

[Bunji]

<p><cite>Aglorious@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hello can you spawn maybe the PvP Test copy gear buffer back to the city`s ? he was yesterday up but not today more..</p></blockquote><p>She's back up now in NF and QH.</p>

[Kryvak]

<p>Can we please have the armor buffer sell Discord tokens? That way we can get the full PvP gear, instead of just the armor and give better feedback. Thanks!</p>

[Kryvak]

<p>Unless they were moved, the buffers that were on the New Halas docks are down again.</p><p>Edit- typos</p>

[Piccolo]

<p>Theres alot of ppl raiding on Test Copy. Any chance we can get the raid buffer up for a bit?</p>

[Zominus]

<p>Can you please spawn OMD and Battlegrounds person and stuff and maybe a new buffer that sells red and yellow adorns with DoV stuff. Also maybe the buffer that sells Hardmode SF gear for apperance and sells are Envarted Myth for apperance.</p><p>Thank You</p>

[Kryvak]

<p>Hearing rumors that Old Man Dave is gonna come up later today, not sure if its true or not, but might be worth logging on <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Piccolo]

<p>not up as of 4:30 est. unless they moved him.</p>

[Piccolo]

<p>Posted here 5 days ago, just like <span ><a href="../user/profile.m?user_id=242375"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Reahov</span></strong></a> said to do.</span></p><p>Havent heard a peep from anyone. Multiple people asked for OMD. How come we dont get any response?</p><p>Is there a different way for us to ask? /Petition maybe?</p>

[Kryvak]

<p><cite>Piccolo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is there a different way for us to ask? /Petition maybe?</p></blockquote><p>/petition will get you a "CS does not assist with spawning on the Test Copy server." response. Good luck getting any info. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Cratoh]

<p>You really need to make OMD and the adornment buffer a permanent feature on test copy server. As it is there is lady luck, offering fairly useless 90/280 pq/MC fabled gear.</p><p>I'll run the risk of sounding 'leet' or whatever here but that buffer is pretty pointless for testing gear considering the low population of test copy server. If you want people seriously testing changes in game mechanics and everything else then you need to enable them to test in gear comparable to what they use on live - not what their alts are wearing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I don't want to go to test, then mess around farming gear to mute to then make into adornments to put on pq stuff to test features. Would be great if you could pop the adornment and decent gear vendor.</p><p>My main point is - if you have level/AA/guild level and gear buffers, why not just put the best in? You want people testing, and this would encourage more to do so.</p>

[gb_man]

<p>Any intent on spawning OMD?  It gets brought up every few days...  Now with the new content it'd be more useful than ever to get some more people into the mix.</p>

[tamerspain]

<p>Yes please spawn OMD & Adornment Merchant. I beg you!</p><p>And no point of doing the new zones in just PQ gear ull die so fast. Even with a full group. I had 3Healers with me and a Assassin I was a SK i used ward everytime and stuff. Please make OMD & Adornment Permanet into Test Copy</p>

[crackers_87]

<p>Can you all plz Spawn  Old Man Dave  </p>

[Ragefighter]

<p>Only reason I can see OMD not being permanet on test copy is because they want people to actually test heroic content in heroic gear.  If everyone on test had a full set of war runes and hard mode armor than went to go test heroic content and said it was killable than when it hits live. people start complaining all over because stuff is too hard to kill in their heroic gear.</p><p>I would suggest that you add an easy mode raid gear npc to bridge the gap a bit.  or make lady luck give out the next tier of heroic gear as right now most of the people seem to have at least some pieces of this set.</p><p>I think the point of /testcopy  is to take your current toon's to the test server and see how they can tackle the new content in YOUR gear.  This helps set a progression path.</p>

[Cratoh]

<p>Yes, then they put new raid zones in, and they are completely messed up as you can't go in there and test because no one at all, anywhere has the gear.</p><p>Varying different tiers of buffers, and debuffers need to be added for all levels of testing.</p><p>Yellow adorns need to be on lay luck as does rygorr.</p><p>All factions need to be 40k as well.</p>

[Kithica]

<p>I looked around the newbie areas. I guess they aren't up again?</p>

[ArtemisClyde]

<p><cite>BinderTwoshots wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I looked around the newbie areas. I guess they aren't up again?</p></blockquote><p>you simply arent looking hard enough, or in the right places. they look like mystic margareth the genie chick. the most reliable ones are:</p><p>kelethin nursery area</p><p>td/gorowyn noob area (chrykori village or w/e)</p><p>neriak(darklight wood) noob village starter area</p><p>sometimes the halas one seems to be down, but they can be at that starter area as well at times.</p><p>On a side note, i REALLY wish omd/lord bob were spawned once a month or two, even if u only leave them up for a day but please give us an official notice when u do....it would make things so much better for everyone and i think encourage more testers to play test copy and help out <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Kryvak]

<p>Wow, didn't expect anyone to ever post here again <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />. Lady Luck buffers are in Kelethin, Neriak and TD normally, those are all permanent and don't go down with every hotfix, but the Halas one is usually not up. And yes, it would be nice to have a better buffer up (at least something better than PQ gear, can't do anything but ToFS in that lol - EM gear wouldn't be unreasonable, or at least Drunder x2 gear).</p>

[Calabeth]

<p>With the lastest patch notes saying things were fixed for BL regarding yellow/red adorns they still seem to have forgotten that the buff baubles STILL do not work for them. So beyond just looking at the vendor and seeing a lot of class restrictions basically removed I cannot specifically make 1 up real fast and test it for sure.</p><p>FIX all Bauble's to add beastlord stuff on them also now. I mean you say there is BL specific stuff in raid drops which could be tested by those with an OMD bauble but ooops guess what, yeah BL Cannot USE baubles Of ANY kind yet. Glad to see test notes are mostly just for show now and largely ignored and have it's real testing done on live.</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p><cite>Calabeth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the lastest patch notes saying things were fixed for BL regarding yellow/red adorns they still seem to have forgotten that the buff baubles STILL do not work for them. So beyond just looking at the vendor and seeing a lot of class restrictions basically removed I cannot specifically make 1 up real fast and test it for sure.</p><p>FIX all Bauble's to add beastlord stuff on them also now. I mean you say there is BL specific stuff in raid drops which could be tested by those with an OMD bauble but ooops guess what, yeah BL Cannot USE baubles Of ANY kind yet. Glad to see test notes are mostly just for show now and largely ignored and have it's real testing done on live.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I suspect someone forgot that in beta beastlords had to use a special bauble to restrict buffed levelling and weren't able to use the regular bauble.</p>

[Kryvak]

<p><cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Calabeth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the lastest patch notes saying things were fixed for BL regarding yellow/red adorns they still seem to have forgotten that the buff baubles STILL do not work for them. So beyond just looking at the vendor and seeing a lot of class restrictions basically removed I cannot specifically make 1 up real fast and test it for sure.</p><p>FIX all Bauble's to add beastlord stuff on them also now. I mean you say there is BL specific stuff in raid drops which could be tested by those with an OMD bauble but ooops guess what, yeah BL Cannot USE baubles Of ANY kind yet. Glad to see test notes are mostly just for show now and largely ignored and have it's real testing done on live.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I suspect someone forgot that in beta beastlords had to use a special bauble to restrict buffed levelling and weren't able to use the regular bauble.</p></blockquote><p>I think it's more like nobody's paying attention to buffers on Test Copy <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Haven't seen OMD in forever, we really need something better than PQ gear to test anything, at least EM gear if HM is too much.</p>

[Calabeth]

<p><cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Calabeth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the lastest patch notes saying things were fixed for BL regarding yellow/red adorns they still seem to have forgotten that the buff baubles STILL do not work for them. So beyond just looking at the vendor and seeing a lot of class restrictions basically removed I cannot specifically make 1 up real fast and test it for sure.</p><p>FIX all Bauble's to add beastlord stuff on them also now. I mean you say there is BL specific stuff in raid drops which could be tested by those with an OMD bauble but ooops guess what, yeah BL Cannot USE baubles Of ANY kind yet. Glad to see test notes are mostly just for show now and largely ignored and have it's real testing done on live.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I suspect someone forgot that in beta beastlords had to use a special bauble to restrict buffed levelling and weren't able to use the regular bauble.</p></blockquote><p>Sadly you would have suspected wrong as I was never in the beta xD But now I do know that information and still proves they are really slacking even more in terms of the test server. It's like it is only there now for them to toss code on and make sure it does not break. After that they push to live and THEN the real testing of the code begins.</p>

[ArtemisClyde]

maybe test-copy isnt top priority, but i know there were a bunch of late nighters asking and praying you pop OMD last night, if you could leave him up for a few days i'm certain there's many eager raiders looking to get their claws into skyshrine and test it out! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Also, we're wondering if you're ever going to update the buff baubles for beastlords , neither the OMD nor the Genie baubles provide anything for BL's. Since some of us don't want to level a toon 1-90 just to test, maybe this would encourage more testers! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> please help us out, so many would appreciate seeing OMD's smiling, rotting face. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kryvak]

<p><cite>ArtemisClyde wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>maybe test-copy isnt top priority, but i know there were a bunch of late nighters asking and praying you pop OMD last night, if you could leave him up for a few days i'm certain there's many eager raiders looking to get their claws into skyshrine and test it out! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> Also, we're wondering if you're ever going to update the buff baubles for beastlords , neither the OMD nor the Genie baubles provide anything for BL's. Since some of us don't want to level a toon 1-90 just to test, maybe this would encourage more testers! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> please help us out, so many would appreciate seeing OMD's smiling, rotting face. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><p>Completely agree, but I would add that the new skyshrine baubles *do* work on Beastlords. Not the best raid gear, but you don't need to level it yourself.</p>

[ArtemisClyde]

hrm the ones i got off broker gave no gear but i can see bill the goat for now, but easy questlines give better gear then rygorr. what would be really awesome is to test out new skyshrine gear, if there is any yet. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Akan]

<p>Please put shady up?</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Checked any known zones where a buffer was up at a time and found nothing at all (starting zones, frostfang docks, thurgadin, withered lands, anto, thundering steppes. Nothing)</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Rechecked today and still can't find any kind of buffer around.</p>

[Kuulei]

<p>Hasn't been one since wipe and I suspect they may <strong>not</strong> put one back.</p><p>it is after all meant to be a server where one can /testcopy to and test changes.  Better to test changes, quests, etc with what you currently play and are capable of playing, than buffing up.</p>

[Alenna]

<p><cite>Kuulei wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hasn't been one since wipe and I suspect they may <strong>not</strong> put one back.</p><p>it is after all meant to be a server where one can /testcopy to and test changes.  Better to test changes, quests, etc with what you currently play and are capable of playing, than buffing up.</p></blockquote><p>with these changes those of us who want to see what is happening with our alts need to be able to buff them to see what the changes do in end game.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>In my case, the problem is that I have nearly to no Qeynosian at all.</p><p>I have a 50ish swash, a 40ish swash, a 90 templar, a 32 templar and er... a level 15ish guardian. That's the whole extent of my live goodies.</p><p>On test I have a 91ish mystic, a 92 conjuror, a 52 paladin and a 40ish warlock. I cannot test the scout and warrior quests with those classes and won't betray all my neutral classes ebils <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Kuulei]

<p>In that case, maybe a buffer that does 10 level increments would be nice!</p><p>That way the questlines can be test at the level most woul try them</p>

[Kuulei]

<p>Buffer in as of 07/03/2012</p><p><strong><span style="color: #888888; font-size: medium;">Bill the Goat (buffer) is located in the Capitol District (formerly North Qeynos) at the Claymore Monument /loc 290, -18, -21</span></strong></p>

[Akan]

<p>Err, great.. Can we get the guild buffer, please? As far as I can see guilds are the only path to parsing dummies..</p>

[Kuulei]

<p><I Like Pie> is reset to public access and has a training dummy, the GH is located in Gorowyn</p><p>But yes, it would be nice for a guild buffer.</p>