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Adegx
04-04-2011, 11:07 AM
<p>Can anyone suggest some good DOV 2 handed weapons for us mystics to use? So far the pickings have been very slim.  Out side of raid zones the only one i've seen, is an ultra rare trash drop from EW.</p><p>Or have mystics gone back to using 1 hand now?</p>

Banditman
04-04-2011, 02:41 PM
<p>Melee Priest itemization is abysmal in this expansion - "working as intended" according to the itemization developer.</p><p>Good luck finding anything worth using for actual DPS.  There is one nice 2H that drops in easy mode Kraytoc's, but it's still not "omgwowgimme".</p>

Adegx
04-04-2011, 05:40 PM
<p>So what are mystics useing these days? 1h with shield? or holding on to old SF 2h?</p>

Banditman
04-04-2011, 05:52 PM
<p>Still using Yuri from last expansion for DPS purposes.  The Kraytoc hammer would be a minor upgrade if I could get it.</p><p>The biggest problem that we're facing though is not so much the weapon itself, but the utter lack of any sort of itemization which caters to our DPS.</p><p>"Caster" type Priests gain equal value from an item whether it be for their healing side or their DPS side . . . Potency, Crit Bonus and Cast Speed are all equally valuable whether healing or DPSing.  On the other hand, a melee priest needs those things . . . PLUS DPS mod, Haste and Multi attack to achieve the same thing.</p><p>Weapons aside, we need actual itemization.</p>

Adegx
04-05-2011, 10:58 AM
<p>Looks like tantor may have a decent 2h.   Anyone know how to get him to spawn? Is it timer based? or just a matter of killing enough mammoths?</p>

Gahnand
04-05-2011, 04:05 PM
<p><img src="http://www.asuka-langley.com/eq/control.jpg" width="312" height="414" /></p>

Wilin
04-06-2011, 12:29 PM
<p>I was lucky enough to get the 2h ultra rare trash drop from a very kind guildmate. It's T1 fabled though.</p><p>There's a really nice one on Taaltak the Mighty in EM Kraytoc's that you may be able to get at some point through either a PUR or buying it.</p>

Wilin
04-06-2011, 12:34 PM
<p><cite>Adegx@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Looks like tantor may have a decent 2h.   Anyone know how to get him to spawn? Is it timer based? or just a matter of killing enough mammoths?</p></blockquote><p>Tantor is one of the 2 contested raid mobs in the entire expansion so you shouldn't expect too much info on him yet. After the expansion has been out a while and it's been farmed to death, more info on Tantor will probably find it's way out.</p>

Banditman
04-06-2011, 01:33 PM
<p>Hammer of Control is nice, but ZERO multi attack!?!?!?  Apparently melee priests are overpowered.</p>

Gahnand
04-07-2011, 01:55 AM
<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hammer of Control is nice, but ZERO multi attack!?!?!?  Apparently melee priests are overpowered.</p></blockquote><p>it's kind of ridiculous. yes we are melee priests, and if you're baller you can do both, but we're just going to get squashed back if they start putting every stat you can dream up on our gear. There is plenty of MA we can get from our AAs, group buffs, and adornments. Don't forget the 35% we get almost 100% of the time from Rage.</p>

Banditman
04-07-2011, 09:56 AM
<p>That isn't the point.</p><p>I shouldn't have to count on adding adornments specifically for DPS.  When a caster priest adds adornments, they are adding things that help both their DPS and healing aspects.  Why should we be treated any differently?  Our DPS comes at the cost of being much closer to the mob, in far greater danger than the casters.</p><p>It's ridiculous, and no amount of explanation from SOE will change that.  We need to be properly itemized.  Not just Mystics, all melee priests.</p>

Gahnand
04-07-2011, 09:28 PM
<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That isn't the point.</p><p>I shouldn't have to count on adding adornments specifically for DPS.  When a caster priest adds adornments, they are adding things that help both their DPS and healing aspects.  Why should we be treated any differently?  Our DPS comes at the cost of being much closer to the mob, in far greater danger than the casters.</p><p>It's ridiculous, and no amount of explanation from SOE will change that.  We need to be properly itemized.  Not just Mystics, all melee priests.</p></blockquote><p>YES, YOU SHOULD! It's absolutely ridiculous that you think we should need that much DPS enhancement. We are priests. Even if we are melee priests, we are not mages, we are not scouts or even fighters. The truth is, I smell a nerf coming. Check out these parses:</p><p><img src="http://www.asuka-langley.com/eq/taaltak_hps.jpg" width="906" height="756" /></p><p>9001 hps? Pretty good, but not anything special. Guess how much DPS I did at the same time:</p><p><img src="http://www.asuka-langley.com/eq/taaltak_dps.jpg" width="917" height="761" /></p><p>That's a HARDMODE encounter. Wake up man. We have plenty of DPS as is.</p>

Gahnand
04-07-2011, 09:30 PM
<p>BTW, in case you didn't notice, that's a 7 minute 20 second encounter. No burst DPS. Just pure destruction.</p><p>And one last thing, I only have 2 pieces of HM gear before you get excited.</p>

Banditman
04-08-2011, 09:53 AM
<p>I'm not impressed.  It's all AE damage.  Those sort of fights naturally look that way.  A good Warlock in that same situation would probably be pressing upwards of 500k.  A Swashy would probably be 300k anyway.</p><p>Numbers aren't the problem, the problem is our relative DPS compared to other classes.  It has not gone up, it has gone down.  I don't care if a Mystic is doing 1 million DPS . . . if other classes are doing 15 million we're still losing ground.</p>

Gahnand
04-08-2011, 01:07 PM
<p>I beat all other healers and troubs and sometimes chanters. You're just bad if you're not half way up the parse. BTW, here's a parse that isn't AE damage. The fact that you're still defending this is just increasing ignorance.<img src="http://www.asuka-langley.com/eq/gunnr_hm75.jpg" width="916" height="759" /></p><p>And LOL at numbers aren't the problem. Numbers are the DPS, and the numbers relative to the raid are higher than any other xpac by a long shot.</p>

Wilin
04-08-2011, 04:52 PM
<p>I wouldn't doubt the numbers. I'm not rocking HM just yet and I'm even playing around with totemic endline instead of the AE, and my DPS is still in the middle usually beating the rest of the healers, some bards, some fighters and some chanters.</p>

Banditman
04-08-2011, 05:29 PM
<p>Never said I doubted the numbers, said I doubted the relative value of the numbers.  Feel free to pursue whatever course you feel is right, and I'll do the same.</p>

Gahnand
04-08-2011, 05:47 PM
and like I said, relative to the raid or group, we are higher this xpac than any other.