Question on House Expanders

[Maisland]

<p>In preperation for the upcoming housing changes, I had my newest character get the Everfrost Summer Home.  I am finding the 400 item limit really restricting though, so I used a player made expander to increase the item count to 500.</p><p>My question:  I know that there are two expanders on the marketplace and that the 200 item expander has to be used last as the other one cannot be applied if an equal or larger expander has already been used.  Does the player made expander count as equal to the marketplace one?  Or can I use both to increase my item count to 800?</p>

[Erithe]

<p>I Believe you can use both.  Use the player made first, the lesser # market one second, and the largest market one last.</p><p>At least, I remember reading that somewhere.  I'm sure someone will reply soon who knows for certain <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Maisland]

<p>Thanks for the quick reply!</p><p>I have added 3 floors to the central room and all those tiles add up.</p>

[Senya]

<p><cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> I know that there are two expanders on the marketplace and that the 200 item expander has to be used last as the other one cannot be applied if an equal or larger expander has already been used.</p></blockquote><p>You can't use both marketplace expanders on a single house.  If you buy the marketplace one for 100 then decide you need more it overwrites the original +100 expander with the new +200 expander. </p><p>You can stack ONE crafted expander (+100), and ONE marketplace expander (either 100 or 200 but not both) for a max total of 700 items in the Everfrost Summer Home.</p>

[Cloudrat]

<p>It shame that they can't come up with a user friendly method of imparting that knowledge to casual players who are constantly getting misinformation from channel chat and don't frequent the forums.</p><p>Or maybe just let them all stack so as to avoid the problem in the first place?</p>

[Katz]

<p><cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It shame that they can't come up with a user friendly method of imparting that knowledge to casual players who are constantly getting misinformation from channel chat and don't frequent the forums.</p><p>Or maybe just let them all stack so as to avoid the problem in the first place?</p></blockquote><p>I like the let all of them stack solution.</p>

[Maisland]

<p><cite>Senya wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> I know that there are two expanders on the marketplace and that the 200 item expander has to be used last as the other one cannot be applied if an equal or larger expander has already been used.</p></blockquote><p>You can't use both marketplace expanders on a single house.  If you buy the marketplace one for 100 then decide you need more it overwrites the original +100 expander with the new +200 expander. </p><p>You can stack ONE crafted expander (+100), and ONE marketplace expander (either 100 or 200 but not both) for a max total of 700 items in the Everfrost Summer Home.</p></blockquote><p>Thank you very much.  You just saved me some real money.</p><p>The description of the Marketplace expanders does not make that clear and I did not want to buy any of them until I knew for sure how they would work.  I wouldn't have a problem testing with player made stuff, but I hate wasting real money.</p><p>Edit:</p><p><cite>Katz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It shame that they can't come up with a user friendly method of imparting that knowledge to casual players who are constantly getting misinformation from channel chat and don't frequent the forums.</p><p>Or maybe just let them all stack so as to avoid the problem in the first place?</p></blockquote><p>I like the let all of them stack solution.</p></blockquote><p>So do I.</p>

[Rhyme]

<p>It still amazes me that Sony has not made the two (+100 & +200) expanders stackable.  They have no clue how many people would pop the extra cash for that extra 100 items.  Potential easy cash cow w/ just a little scripting.  I personally would KILL for the extra 100 item count in Rhyme's home to finish it off w/ a more "lived-in" feeling w/o having to chop off another room structure.</p><p>So Sony..PLEASE just make it happen !!! </p>

[Domino]

<p><cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The description of the Marketplace expanders does not make that clear and I did not want to buy any of them until I knew for sure how they would work.  I wouldn't have a problem testing with player made stuff, but I hate wasting real money.</p></blockquote><p>Here is the description on the marketplace expanders:</p><p>"This item grants you an increase in the number of items your home can hold. Only one purchased expander may be applied per character; however, it can be used in addition to the crafted Dimensional Pocket Expander. Purchasing and applying a larger or equivalent Personal House Item Limit Expander will replace the smaller one, not add to it (and have no effect on the effect of crafted expanders)."</p><p>We tried to make it very clear what would stack with what, but it's a bit complicated to explain. If anybody has a better suggestion on how to rephrase this more clearly we would be happy to hear it! Definitely we want to make this as clear as possible. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Juull]

<p>Honestly Domino, I would just get rid of the smaller SC expander - it seems like a waste of money.  Baring that, I would add the following to each description:</p><p>"This expander does not stack with any other Marketplace items that affect house item count."</p>

[Maisland]

<p><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The description of the Marketplace expanders does not make that clear and I did not want to buy any of them until I knew for sure how they would work.  I wouldn't have a problem testing with player made stuff, but I hate wasting real money.</p></blockquote><p>Here is the description on the marketplace expanders:</p><p>"This item grants you an increase in the number of items your home can hold. Only one purchased expander may be applied per character; however, it can be used in addition to the crafted Dimensional Pocket Expander. Purchasing and applying a larger or equivalent Personal House Item Limit Expander will replace the smaller one, not add to it (and have no effect on the effect of crafted expanders)."</p><p>We tried to make it very clear what would stack with what, but it's a bit complicated to explain. If anybody has a better suggestion on how to rephrase this more clearly we would be happy to hear it! Definitely we want to make this as clear as possible. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I don't know where to find that description.  This is what I see when I go to the marketplace in game and look at the description there:</p><p><img src="http://a1.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/b51e03a16261401ea06e983796050f61/l.jpg" width="600" height="374" /></p><p><img src="http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/140/017e2f7235a14162803533c605dd4d68/l.jpg" width="600" height="378" /></p><p>...as you can see, it says nothing about only one purchased expander being usable on either size, only that it cannot be used if an expander of equal or higher value is present and that it cannot be used on a Guild Hall.</p>

[Zehl_Ice-Fire]

<p>What I am wondering is when we get multi houses if the marketplace expander will apply to every house that character owns, I would think it has to since it is attached to YOU and not your house as the crafted one is?</p>

[Jazabelle]

<p><cite>Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What I am wondering is when we get multi houses if the marketplace expander will apply to every house that character owns, I would think it has to since it is attached to YOU and not your house as the crafted one is?</p></blockquote><p>I believe the answer to that question is, "No, it will not apply to all of them."</p><p>That is why the price of the housing expanders has dropped -- because we will need to purchase one of them per house we use them on.</p><p>I will see if I can find any actual quotes concerning this.</p>

[Senya]

<p>Domino says <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=30&topic_id=495594#5513642" target="_blank">here</a>: </p><p><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jazabelle@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Casiphia@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>i'm hoping the SC expander is 1 per character & applies to all homes lol</blockquote><p>Yes, this is what I meant. Once per character, not once per home.</p><p>...posting before the brain officially wakes up is <em>never</em> a good idea...</p></blockquote><p>OK, I have an answer on the station marketplace purchased house expanders and multiple homes.</p><p>Once multiple homes are introduced, the expanders will apply <em>per house</em>; so, if you have two houses and want extra house items in each, you'll have to buy separate expanders for each, just like the carpenter-made ones.</p><p><em>However,</em> since many decorating fans will no doubt want to maximize the item count of every house you own (don't deny it! I know who you are! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> ) we plan to significantly lower the price of the Station Marketplace expanders once multiple houses are introduced, to make it much more affordable if you do want to go crazy with your house item count.  So there is your answer. </p><p>And before someone asks, still no firm date on the multiple houses, but our fabulous code team is hard at work and we're all eager to get it out there as soon as it's ready.</p></blockquote>