1 FPS problem...

[Azol]

<p>Hey. I think this is PVP-related issue, but I think I'll post it here first.</p><p>I experienced it for several times now. Looks like this:</p><p>1) Once we were doing the PQ in Storm Gorge, several freeps came and killed me, I revived then I suddenly had 1 FPS rate and the game became unplayable, I had to kill the client process and relog.</p><p>2) I was travelling in Eastern Wastes and saw a freep approaching me (some scout type, unstealthed), then in a matter of several seconds my framerate dropped to 1 FPS again and I just managed to hit Evac spell. After I evaced, my FPS became normal once more (around 60 FPS, as usual). I had traffic monitor (F11) window opened, ping was around 290 all the time.</p><p>3) SG PQ again, but now we got attacked by several freeps and we fought back. My frame rate dropped to 1 once again, I had to evac.</p><p>I think it began a week ago or so it seems. PQ lag was bad, but I never saw anything remotely close to 1 FPS before that.</p>

[kdmorse]

<p>There have been a number of other threads with wildly varrying titles on the subject, so you're certainly not alone.  No good conclusive answers have been given, but may people report that if you enter the command</p><p>/soga_modes 0</p><p>in a chat box, it will reset enough of the rendering engine to break free.  It's not the 'turn of soga' part that supposedly fixes it, you may have soga off already.  It's the 'reset the rendering engine and reload the models' part that supposedly helps. </p><p>I say supposedly, because I've personally not had any luck with it.  I twist the camera arround (slowly), stare at me feet or the sky, and zoom in.  Doing so get's the troublesome character off the screen, and breaks me free.   Looking back up at them typically hangs me down to 1 fps again.</p>

[Azol]

<p>Thanks for the hint, I do have SOGA models off by default. Maybe I should include this command into my spell rotations <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> until devs fix this bug!</p>

[Darfohi]

<p>The same problem here too. I can drop from 80 fps to 1fps. I've encountered this at Ring Of War PQ area, Storm Gorge PQ area and also Great Divine entrance area. I usually zoom into the floor, turn away and walk away untill it stops. It still ruins the all the fun there is. Made me close the game quite often.</p><p>Not sure if PVP related since same thing seems to be reported on other servers, too.</p><p>Thank you for a simplier walkaround.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>It also happens to me and I'm on Everfrost.  It's a very hot topic and optimizations are being developed and pushed but it will take time to iron out every possible cause of this.  Shader 3 and SOGA models are the larger culprits, but what about them causes the issue and why it affects some but not all of the people playing are parts of the process that delay a fix already being pushed.  I wish I had an ETA on a total fix but every patch includes optimizations towards curbing this type of behavior.</p>

[Azol]

<p>Thanks for the heads up! I do have both Shaders 3 and SOGA models OFF at all times, so guess it's more common bug than that.</p><p>One more thing to mention: I noticed this bug while I was using High Performance/Balanced/High Quality settings - it does not matter which graph settings I use. I do turn them down a bit when I am doing PQs.</p>

[Azol]

Posting here a link to another thread with more descriptions of mysterious "1 FPS curse" and a sceenshot of resulting broken display of character model - <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=497335" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=497335</a>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Thanks for the extra info.</p>

[SirDoreil]

<p>Had the same problem doing PQ this weekend.</p><p>Was using two EQ2 clients on the same machine on different monitors. My main character would lag to around 1FPS while the other character on the other monitor would still be running at around 40FPS with no noticable lag.</p><p>I had to look at my feet and zoom all in to reduce lag. It was clearly not a network issue and if it was a constant problem with some other characters not rendering correctly it would have shown on both clients. It seams to be related to an internal rendering state of the client.</p><p>Like others, I do not use SOGA models nor have activated the Shader 3.0...</p><p>Regards,Gonzai</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>I'd like to get to the bottom of this problem asap, so if anyone develops any new info, please PM me right away. </p><p>Is there a location where this issue is the most common?  I understand that it can happen anywhere, but if I know which zone its likely to happen most often, I can enable some additional logging to help us track it down.</p>

[Azol]

<p>From my observation it's rather tied with characters you meet, not the location. Naturally, there is much more player activity in DOV zones ([Removed for Content], EW), so that is exactly where it happens most of the time.</p>

[Adegx]

<p>have noticed i primarly see it when someone has got that pack pony running around with them.  Cant say for sure if thats fact or conquendence. </p>

[daray]

<p><cite>SirDoreil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Had the same problem doing PQ this weekend.</p><p>Was using two EQ2 clients on the same machine on different monitors. My main character would lag to around 1FPS while the other character on the other monitor would still be running at around 40FPS with no noticable lag.</p><p>I had to look at my feet and zoom all in to reduce lag. It was clearly not a network issue and if it was a constant problem with some other characters not rendering correctly it would have shown on both clients. It seams to be related to an internal rendering state of the client.</p><p>Like others, I do not use SOGA models nor have activated the Shader 3.0...</p><p>Regards,Gonzai</p></blockquote><p>This has been my exact experience too. For me, it only ever seems to happen in [Removed for Content], and it seems to be completely random (standing around doing nothing in an empty part of the zone, or participating in a PQ).</p><p>The only way to fix it, is to relog, zone, or evac.</p>

[karrani]

I run 2-6 PQ's a day, and it happens just about every other. It seems to be primarily a graphics subsystem problem, because I can fix it every time by using a custom graphics setup in Profit that makes everything as zero as possible, particles, textures, etc. None of the other built in graphics settings do it, just the custom one. Only thing that I see different is the custom one blanks the screen for about 5 seconds, but fixes everything. So it seems to cause a graphics driver mode shift.

[Arrowheart]

<p>I've encountered this a few times now as well. No shader 3.0, no soga models, no shadows, none of the new sunshaft or other new gfx effects that were recently added. </p><p>I first encountered it on March 1, 2011 during the 12 days of velious aether races. Happened quite a few times in lavastorm that day, as well as once in tenebrous tangle (was near the race npc starter) - note these were all just running 1 instance of EQ2 and there were lots of people at both locations. After that it has since happened at Storm Gorge (alot) and on occassion at Ring War (all just running 1 client) - areas were heavily populated when it occurred.</p><p>Has also happened once in Kunzar Jungle at Tabernacle of Pain. Was running 2 clients when this one happened (only affected one and not the other) and far as I could tell no one else was nearyby so I took a screenshot of this one. It was on Antonia Bayle, Monday, ‎April ‎04, ‎2011 around ‏‎3:25 AM EST. Characters name was Darkskye, other character in background was Bloodcrazy (unaffected). The characters were close together (autofollow) until the slowdown occurred.</p><p>It does eventually clear up if you have the patience to keep trying to move away from the area or maybe person/graphic whatever causing it, though it does take some distance before it clears up which is painful stuttering at 1-2FPS.</p><p>Anyways not sure if those times and char names will help any but figured I'd share that one experience since I had some solid data (with limited possible causes) on when/where it occurred just in case you can go back to check logs on it.</p><p>Also just in case it helps any (system hardware):</p><p>Intel i7 920 / Asus P6TSE / 6 x 2gb OCZ DDR3-1333 / XFX ATI HD5850 1GB / Corsair HX850 PSU / WDD Raptor 10k HDD</p><p>Another note I use Ati catalyst 10.10 drivers (have used these for a long time without any issue prior to this). Reason I mention this is catalyst 10.12 and higher drivers have quite a few bugs with ati 5850 (and possibly other cards) relating to mouse cursor/fps/stutter issues if you mouseover the upper right corner of a game, generally where the close button is if you are running in window mode. Other info - Windows 7 OS 64bit - Profit UI custom mod.</p><p>When each event occured, I checked system temps (no overheating was occurring), as well as task manager (ram usage never went above 8GB out of 12GB available even when running 3 clients), and there were no erronous background tasks (nothing that was using any noticable cpu/memory/hdd/network resources). Other than running winamp while harvesting or crafting, I rarely run anything else in background, other than Internet Explorer 8 to check email or eq2i/zam for quest info.</p><p><img src="http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o193/Ming_Dienasty/EQ2_000116.jpg" width="1024" height="728" /></p>

[Prrasha]

<p>I get it too, but rather rarely (twice a week would be a lot... maybe had it six or seven times, total).</p><p>My main machine has an nVidia card, so not ATI-card or catalyst-driver related.  I two-box on two separate machines; the other has an ATI card and hasn't (yet) had the 1FPS bug.  Neither machine uses Soga, both use Shader1.0, and the default "balanced" and "extreme performance" settings both do it.</p><p>It's also not tied to trying to draw a specific character model, since I've had it at both the RW and SG PQs, and, if I'm logged in as Prrasha, doing "/camp prrasha" fixes it... no 1FPS when I return, even though all the stuff I'm trying to render would be approximately the same.  But when I have the bug, getting away from other characters fixes it temporarily... so it's almost as though the order the models are loaded matters, or that there's some memory-management issue.  (Bugs like these are why I'm glad I work on the hardware side.)</p>

[Peak]

<p>As I mentioned in another thread, I honestly believe this has to be in some part due to flying mounts.</p><p>I've also experienced the extreme lag at Public Quests - which is where I tend to find the most people on flying mounts.But I've also experienced it in other places - again, only when I've been around flying mounts.</p><p>I was playing a level 70 locked toon lately, and had no lag issues at all (not like what I experience in DoV zones). And then the Take Flight promotion came out. All of a sudden, this lag is happening randomly. And again, there are flying mounts around when it occurs.</p><p>Coincidence? Maybe. But it's at least worth looking in to.</p>

[TumpieBrell]

<p>Happens to me now and then at the Storm Gorge Public Quest (with 2+ raids present) . Whenever I look towards the central area / main raid / big doors. If I am only looking away from the raid toward the mobs, I"m usually ok.</p>

[EQ2Magroo]

<p>I mentioned this problem, and the fix to one of your colleagues and he then went away and did nothing (as far as I can tell)</p><p>This problem only seems to happen in [Removed for Content] and is not location dependant, but depends on the players around you. I've had it happen most at the RW PQ, but that's just due to the large numbers of players there.</p><p>The fix for this is always to do '/soga_models 0'.</p><p>However, the problem can return again pretty quickly. I'm guessing if a player who wasn't nearby and therefore "fixed" by the command then approaches you, it can all go wrong again.</p><p>It looks to me like a texture caching/loading issue where the client is trying to load something that doesn't exist/is corrupt/or is looping over and over again. This causes the CPU to get tied up processing this piece of code and nothing else gets a look in. Your FPS drops to 1 becuase there isn't a 0 on the FPS meter, and because the entire game engine is sat waiting for this texture load to finish. Your ping will climb, and your network data rate will go through the roof - everything stops processing whilst you have the 1FPS. This pretty much proves it is not a GFX card issue, but is a code loop/processing issue.</p><p>I've asked the question "what *exactly* does /soga_models 0 do ?" but no feedback yet. Yes I know it turns off Soga models, but more importantly it's the steps it carries out to do this that are important. i.e. does it clear out all cached textures, re-initialize GFX engine variables etc. etc.</p><p>If you find out exactly what steps this command does, then you can create alternative test commands that do only certain steps of this function i.e. do everything except the texture reset or the variable inialize or whatever. Then when somebody has the problem, they can try the 'soga_model 99' command instead, and then if it doesn't fix it, you have located the code that fixes the issue and are a step closer to finding the cause. if it does work, then next time try 'soga_models 65' or whatever. Eventually you will find the code that fixes it, then you can work out what the cause is.</p>

[Arrowheart]

<p><cite>Adeyia@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Your ping will climb, and your network data rate will go through the roof - everything stops processing whilst you have the 1FPS. This pretty much proves it is not a GFX card issue, but is a code loop/processing issue.</p></blockquote><p>Curious is that is happening to others as well?</p><p>Never noticed my ping or network data rate change beyond normal amounts.</p><p>Maybe I just haven't experienced it yet, or there is another issue (in addition) that is affecting some people.</p>

[Mascouti]

<p>I have had this problem in multiple zones, [Removed for Content], EW, and most recently stonebrunt.  I will go down to 1fps.  As this is happening I can't even open the menu, options, or station store.  If I look straight down, I am able to move again and open everything up again.  After about 2-3 minutes the problem goes away. </p>

[gatrm]

<p>About 90% of the time when this happens for me it is in [Removed for Content] near the RW area.  Most of the time when this occurs, it is not during a public quest.  It can happen when no one else is around or when there are a lot of others around. </p><p>If I  manage to look straight up at the sky and zoom in, I usually regain my fps.</p>

[Peak]

<p><cite>Peak@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>As I mentioned in another thread, I honestly believe this has to be in some part due to flying mounts.</p><p>I've also experienced the extreme lag at Public Quests - which is where I tend to find the most people on flying mounts.But I've also experienced it in other places - again, only when I've been around flying mounts.</p><p>I was playing a level 70 locked toon lately, and had no lag issues at all (not like what I experience in DoV zones). And then the Take Flight promotion came out. All of a sudden, this lag is happening randomly. And again, there are flying mounts around when it occurs.</p><p>Coincidence? Maybe. But it's at least worth looking in to.</p></blockquote>

[Rothgar]

<p>There are two candidates for what might be solving the problem when you set SOGA models.  I'm providing two commands that you can try after the next hotfix.  Please let me know if one or the other fixes the lag spike.  My guess is that it'll be the first one.</p><p>/reload_appearances 1</p><p>and</p><p>/clear_anim_list 1</p><p>These commands will be available after next Tuesday.  In the meantime, if you find more information about reproducing this problem, please let me know via PM.</p>

[Peak]

<p>Would this issue still be occurring without SOGA models?</p><p>In my frustration, I usually swap between SOGA on and SOGA off during the lag spikes.I haven't paid attention, but I'm fairly certain it's happened without SOGA as well.</p>

[EQ2Magroo]

<p><cite>Peak@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Would this issue still be occurring without SOGA models?</p><p>In my frustration, I usually swap between SOGA on and SOGA off during the lag spikes.I haven't paid attention, but I'm fairly certain it's happened without SOGA as well.</p></blockquote><p>Yes it occurs regardless of if you have SOGA models on or off.</p><p>In my view it's nothing to do with the SOGA models per se, it's just that issuing that 'soga_models 0' command executes certain things within the graphics engine that effectly resovle the issue.</p><p>I had a repeat occurance today at a RW PQ. I issued the command to fix which worked, then half way through the RW it came back again and had to do it again.</p><p>Can't wait for the next hotfix to try out the new solutions !</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>I'm looking forward to the update as well.  I do the RW's all the time! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[darksummoner85]

<p>Im having the 1 to 0 FPS curse in Storm Gorge PG on Everfrost only, I can't even be in that part of the great divide due to the curse</p><p>What info do I need to post to help you guys fix this problem ??</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Have any of the workarounds worked?  Disabling SOGA models, turning off shader 3, or the new commands that Rothgar put in for us to test with?</p>

[Rotate]

<p>everyone i know in game gets this.. at one point or another.. at first they just thought it was thier computer lagging didnt relize it was a bug.   It doesnt matter if soga on or off i get drop to 1 fps stutter.  It mostly happens in PQ's becuse high chance with more peeps around. </p><p>While severs were down.. i upgraded my pc.. got a gtx 470, new mobo.. new ram..  i7 2600k clocked at 4.5 ghz.   in game.. max settigns minus a few things that i dont care for looks wise.. i get from 60- 200 fps depending how many people are around me..   I am running windows 7 now.. and stream client and i still get this bug its realy annoying in open pvp..</p><p> i can swap back and forth between charater models.. but when they toon that causes it flys off and comes back in view range i drop down to 1 fps again and i have to swap charater models again to stop it. I find it is normaly mages causing this. i want to say warlocks. but unsure.  was just having it bad on naggy.. at ring war pq. 11 pm central. 5/21/11   my entire group was getting it..</p><p>ps.. i will try those comands rothgar posted next time it happens.. and see wich helps.</p>

[Rotate]

<p>temporarly fixes the issue ...../reload_appearances 1</p><p>and</p><p> seems to do nothing to stop the 1 fps issue.   /clear_anim_list 1</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Rotate@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>temporarly fixes the issue ...../reload_appearances 1</p><p>and</p><p> seems to do nothing to stop the 1 fps issue.   /clear_anim_list 1</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for the feedback!</p>

[Haliken]

<p>As one simple piece of information to contribute to this problem, I recently had the following occur:</p><p>I was playing two accounts at once on one computer. One of the EQ2 clients was running horribly (i.e. stuttering every half second for a half second). When I went into small, enclosed rooms, the performance would often improve, but then I realized that there was a very distinctive difference between the two EQ2 clients I was running. In the window with poor performance, that character's own hair was missing!</p><p>For whatever reason, the hair failed to load and never managed to properly try and correct itself. It greatly impacted the game's performance until I traveled to another zone, since attempts to reduce the game to showing no high-quality models or showing the character's helmet/hood did not remedy the problem.</p><p>So, obviously, it doesn't take a large, easily noticeable error to impact the game's performance... although it's certainly interesting to find one's own character without hair.</p><p>Edit: Oops, I mistook this thread for a much larger one...</p>

[qedd]

<p>I just did my very first PQ and I have the same issue I can run the game pretty high all the time and once I got to ring of war It dropped to 1 FPS so I turned Everything i could  to low and still had 1 FPS here is my specs/  i7 980X 6 core CPU 12g ram SLI Nvidia 480's, 1600 watt PSU all watercooled.  I checked all my temps and they were fine these paticular cards can run hot too  but they were cool so im  seriously wondering whats wrong with this game. </p>

[Peogia]

<p><cite>qedd wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I just did my very first PQ and I have the same issue I can run the game pretty high all the time and once I got to ring of war It dropped to 1 FPS so I turned Everything i could  to low and still had 1 FPS here is my specs/  i7 980X 6 core CPU 12g ram SLI Nvidia 480's, 1600 watt PSU all watercooled.  I checked all my temps and they were fine these paticular cards can run hot too  but they were cool so im  seriously wondering whats wrong with this game. </p></blockquote><p>Thats normal performance for the public quests 1 frame that and no loot and casting delay about up to minutes per cast all the reasons why I stopped doing PQ's along time ago Public Quests are more trouble then they are worth</p>

[qedd]

<p>So its safe to say I dont  have to expect this from regular raids?  Sadly Im sure I wont even get close to a raiding guild without PQ gear especially as a tank.</p>

[Peogia]

<p><cite>qedd wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So its safe to say I dont  have to expect this from regular raids?  Sadly Im sure I wont even get close to a raiding guild without PQ gear especially as a tank.</p></blockquote><p>almost anything and everything in this game graphics related lags when I raided in past I used extreme performance as you can not usually see over the casting spam and it makes the client much more responsive too for a far better pars raids like to use pars system to see if any 1 is sleeping lol also raiding is capped at 24 people and is usually in a empty lil instance / zone so they will proble lag a bit less then Public Quests, PQ's can cram as many people as they can sneak into zone and really make a lag fester with multiple raids at same time with over 50+ people</p><p>Ring of War is the easiest for achieving gear its gorge allot usually will never show up for and wipe and it is incredibly buggy for giving no rewards and credit ect</p><p>I recommend extreme Performance graphics setting for Public Quest's as it is simple and preset but you can also make custom settings and save and load them </p><p>but you can usually turn up graphics all the way up after PQ's and raids ect some times the client may need a reboot after those as it can leak ram and get quiet laggy</p>

[qedd]

<p>Ok Ill give it a shot thanks</p>

[Rotate]

<p>your computer should be able to run the game fine with no lag..  if its droping to 1 fps.. then its the glitch causing it.. doesnt matter. Use that comand rothgar posted for a temp fix.. when it happens.. but yes u can raid and do pq's with no lag as long as that glitch doesnt show up.. usualy happens in areas with flying mounts.</p>

[Peogia]

<p><cite>Rotate@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>your computer should be able to run the game fine with no lag..  if its droping to 1 fps.. then its the glitch causing it.. doesnt matter. Use that comand rothgar posted for a temp fix.. when it happens.. but yes u can raid and do pq's with no lag as long as that glitch doesnt show up.. usualy happens in areas with flying mounts.</p></blockquote><p>yes most systems should be abled to but none will until they fix the graphics engine</p>

[qedd]

<p>Ok update,   I spent all day doing PQs yesterday and I was at Max graphics zero lag.  I didnt do any commands there was only one thing diffrent that I could find and ironicly it was only that my G510 Keyboard wasnt posting my EQ2 stats on its  LCD screen.  Im not sure whats going on.</p>

[Rotate]

<p>you wont always get the bug where it drops to 1 fps...  and i dont think you will ever see it in raid zones..  if everyone is grounded fighting the pq.. you will probly hardly ever drop down to 1 fps...   I find it happens alot on naggy at the pq's when there is pvp.. Alot of peeps on flying mounts dismounting remounting flying around while fighting is going on.</p>

[qedd]

<p>gotcha,  wonder why my keyboard stats isnt working now then....</p>

[MurFalad]

<p>I've just started getting this 1-2 FPS problem too.</p><p>One example of it just now was with the ring war PQ, normally it runs fine, and on my old AMD PhenonII 955 I used to set the graphics down for PQ's since the slowdown affected my ability to cast.</p><p>I recently upgraded to a new Sandybridge 2600k, it runs the game on extreme quality fine enough to not make it worthwhile turning things down for the short slowdowns where there are a ton of people around. </p><p>However just recently it went to 1-2 FPS for a prolonged period of time, for some reason the yellow download data numbers on the lag meter was going as low as 10 to 12 and then immediately up to 12000 and the FPS/playability seemed to be be in time with the download speed (e.g. when it dropped to 10 to 12 it was imminently about to freeze up).</p><p>I could get decent performance by facing the floor throughout the fight (I wish I had checked the download speeds, but from memory I think they were still oscilating), but looking up made everything go into extreme slowdown mode where things moved like a slideshow.</p><p>My settings are shader 3.0 + Extreme quality + GPU shadows, raiding I didn't even think to turn these down since it ran well enough, and most PQ's its fine.  But here it seems like something was wrong, its as if something halts everything else until it timesout and then everything else it left rushing to catch up (hence the 12k a second download rate), at least thats my guess...</p>

[MurFalad]

<p><cite>qedd wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok update,   I spent all day doing PQs yesterday and I was at Max graphics zero lag.  I didnt do any commands there was only one thing diffrent that I could find and ironicly it was only that my G510 Keyboard wasnt posting my EQ2 stats on its  LCD screen.  Im not sure whats going on.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I have a G19 as well runnings Windows 7 64 Pro, I wonder if the USB driver is holding everything up with updates, at least it feels like something is locking things up with the game until it times out, and then everything else plays catchup for a few seconds.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p><cite>MurFalad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>qedd wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok update,   I spent all day doing PQs yesterday and I was at Max graphics zero lag.  I didnt do any commands there was only one thing diffrent that I could find and ironicly it was only that my G510 Keyboard wasnt posting my EQ2 stats on its  LCD screen.  Im not sure whats going on.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I have a G19 as well runnings Windows 7 64 Pro, I wonder if the USB driver is holding everything up with updates, at least it feels like something is locking things up with the game until it times out, and then everything else plays catchup for a few seconds.</p></blockquote><p>That's very interesting as the only test PC I can reliably reproduce the 1fps issue on consistently has a G15 keyboard, although I turned off the LCD (but the drivers/software is still installed).</p>

[Arrowheart]

<p><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>MurFalad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>qedd wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok update,   I spent all day doing PQs yesterday and I was at Max graphics zero lag.  I didnt do any commands there was only one thing diffrent that I could find and ironicly it was only that my G510 Keyboard wasnt posting my EQ2 stats on its  LCD screen.  Im not sure whats going on.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I have a G19 as well runnings Windows 7 64 Pro, I wonder if the USB driver is holding everything up with updates, at least it feels like something is locking things up with the game until it times out, and then everything else plays catchup for a few seconds.</p></blockquote><p>That's very interesting as the only test PC I can reliably reproduce the 1fps issue on consistently has a G15 keyboard, although I turned off the LCD (but the drivers/software is still installed).</p></blockquote><p>This happens to me with a standard microsoft keyboard (driver only, no extra software) so definately not limited to logitech keyboards (or logitech software). Also I have waited extremely long periods of time and my system has never fixed itself, I either had to get out of the area (or away from the player) that caused the issue or force a reset of graphics like with soga_models off command or one of the new ones they added.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p><cite>Trickshot@Vox wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>TSR-JoshuaM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>MurFalad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>qedd wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok update,   I spent all day doing PQs yesterday and I was at Max graphics zero lag.  I didnt do any commands there was only one thing diffrent that I could find and ironicly it was only that my G510 Keyboard wasnt posting my EQ2 stats on its  LCD screen.  Im not sure whats going on.</p></blockquote><p>Hmm, I have a G19 as well runnings Windows 7 64 Pro, I wonder if the USB driver is holding everything up with updates, at least it feels like something is locking things up with the game until it times out, and then everything else plays catchup for a few seconds.</p></blockquote><p>That's very interesting as the only test PC I can reliably reproduce the 1fps issue on consistently has a G15 keyboard, although I turned off the LCD (but the drivers/software is still installed).</p></blockquote><p>This happens to me with a standard microsoft keyboard (driver only, no extra software) so definately not limited to logitech keyboards (or logitech software). Also I have waited extremely long periods of time and my system has never fixed itself, I either had to get out of the area (or away from the player) that caused the issue or force a reset of graphics like with soga_models off command or one of the new ones they added.</p></blockquote><p>I think the bigger picture is that there may be multiple ways to induce this behavior.  What you describe is how it occurs for me too, G15 or not, just not as reliably as that other test PC.</p>