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threat111
03-31-2011, 12:21 PM
<p>Eye of the Shadow Beast - didnt get the MA adjustment all the other charms got.</p><p>Looming Sadness Gorget - missing crit bonus</p><p>Enraging Wristlet of the Changeling - This item lost 20ma, but similar wrists from heroic content remained the same</p><p>Not sure if its intended, but a large amount of heroic items still have ridiculous amounts of MA when compared to Raid slots.</p>

Brildean
03-31-2011, 01:37 PM
<p>Fighter cloaks also got missed on getting something useful on them.. maybe a hate mod increase of 10%</p>

Oink
03-31-2011, 02:00 PM
<p>Barrier of Swirling Spirits from challenge mode bitelimb missed as well, now worse than easy-mode loot.</p><p>And it appears while easy-mode mage pieces went from +30 to +33 for subjugation and disruption, HM is still at +30 skills, probably many others missed in this area too.</p>

Silius
03-31-2011, 03:41 PM
<p><cite>Cesium@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Eye of the Shadow Beast - didnt get the MA adjustment all the other charms got.</p><p>Looming Sadness Gorget - missing crit bonus</p><p>Enraging Wristlet of the Changeling - This item lost 20ma, but similar wrists from heroic content remained the same</p><p>Not sure if its intended, but a large amount of heroic items still have ridiculous amounts of MA when compared to Raid slots.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for pointing these out just made the proper adjustments.</p>

Darchon6
03-31-2011, 04:13 PM
<p>Frozen Icepaw Head, Shard of Destruction, Rime Coated Blade of Ice, and Crystal Shard of Rime didn't receive MA either.  Please look into fixing them too.</p>

Etruscus
03-31-2011, 04:18 PM
<p>I've been told that TOFS T1 armor sets are > that Velks T2 armor sets now. Is there any truth to this?</p>

Shrag
03-31-2011, 05:09 PM
<p>The charm from an x2 mob currently blows the scout charms off tormax and the reward for killing tserrina out of the water</p><p>Here is the dropped x2 charm</p><p><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/raloorn/charmsx2.jpg" width="306" height="299" /></p><p>Here is the Statue of Rallos zek charm(left) with the end reward for killing x2 Tserrina(right)</p><p><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/raloorn/charmsx4.jpg" /></p><p>Kraytocs x4 charm is nice, these however are pretty terrible.</p>

Trynt
03-31-2011, 06:26 PM
<p>Contested x2 charm being better than the instanced x2 charm is probably a good thing.  But the Statue's Shard of Destruction could definitely use some love.</p>

technologically
03-31-2011, 06:44 PM
<p>Did you intend for Heroic Temple charms to be better then EM Statue charms?</p><p>Did you intend for  Heroic Temple fighter charms to be 7 potency / cb and the healer ones to be 6.8?</p><p>Did you intend for these new necks to be worse then UD necks, or do you possibly not understand the difference between a potency/cb boost and an extra ward proc for healers that don't primarily cast wards? (p.s. suck it up put a proc on the new necks or let us adorn them)</p><p>Slightly OT and more of a general complaint, but I think you missed taking a second look at the raid armor focus effects.  Focus's that made sense when we wore T1 SF don't automatically make sense now that we're supposed to be going beyond T4, particularly any focus effect that effect cast speed, or reuse, that have been capped since T2 SF gear. (p.s. 70 resuse/cast speed are cap for some healers)</p><p>I don't like blowing 15 aa on cast speed and reuse reductions to get my heal range bump, but I understand why I have to, you can't just go back and change the old aa to match the new gear, and back when they were new they were probably useful.</p><p>I get very annoyed that my new DoV gear, Inq Legs for example, has a focus effect that is essentially nothing. Proving to me that either no human had a hand in their creation, or that the one that did had no concept of what someone that would wear that item generally has for their stats.</p>

Nekurawr
03-31-2011, 07:20 PM
<p><cite>technologically wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I get very annoyed that my new DoV gear, Inq Legs for example, has a focus effect that is essentially nothing. Proving to me that either no human had a hand in their creation, or that the one that did had no concept of what someone that would wear that item generally has for their stats.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, not a fan of essentially wasting a focus slot on say, the Coercer pants, which have Shock Wave reuse -15 seconds -- a spell that I have capped on reuse solo.</p><p>Also, mastercrafted fabled items from items such as the aITEM -1207519809 618055990:Bloodied Remnant of Rage/a need to be updated, still. In a lot of cases, these items are 0.1% better than Legendary drops from the same zones. The shield that can be crafted from it is actually worse than the Legendary shield from Throne of Storms, because it has no multi-attack on it.</p>

Shrag
03-31-2011, 09:08 PM
<p><cite>Trynt wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Contested x2 charm being better than the instanced x2 charm is probably a good thing.  But the Statue's Shard of Destruction could definitely use some love.</p></blockquote><p>There is no contested loot in those pictures. The first is a picture of the charm off like the 3rd named in the zone, who is an utter joke.</p>

threat111
04-01-2011, 01:32 PM
<p>Stats on the Heroic Instance chest pieces are better then the stats on the x2 raid BP's</p>

Trynt
04-01-2011, 02:26 PM
<p><cite>Shrag wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Trynt wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Contested x2 charm being better than the instanced x2 charm is probably a good thing.  But the Statue's Shard of Destruction could definitely use some love.</p></blockquote><p>There is no contested loot in those pictures. The first is a picture of the charm off like the 3rd named in the zone, who is an utter joke.</p></blockquote><p>That's my bad.  Have the dagger and thought I grabbed it off the Kael x2.  If you get it nerfed now, I'm making a voodoo doll of you. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Shrag
04-01-2011, 02:27 PM
<p>Nothing needs nerfed, the items that drop off harder mobs need to be buffed</p>

ccarro
04-01-2011, 03:16 PM
<p><cite>Silius wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cesium@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Eye of the Shadow Beast - didnt get the MA adjustment all the other charms got.</p><p>Looming Sadness Gorget - missing crit bonus</p><p>Enraging Wristlet of the Changeling - This item lost 20ma, but similar wrists from heroic content remained the same</p><p>Not sure if its intended, but a large amount of heroic items still have ridiculous amounts of MA when compared to Raid slots.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for pointing these out just made the proper adjustments.</p></blockquote><p>While you are making changes, can you PLEASE get rid of riposte chance on the scout items? I seriously get dumber everytime I see it. I don't even care what you replace it with...even if it's nothing.</p>

Kaszan
04-02-2011, 09:27 PM
<p>Riposte on scout items is stupid, I really don't care what it's replaced with as long as it is replaced.  At the moment some of the fabled mastercrafted gear for scouts has it making them useless.</p><p>I'm not sure if it has been mentioned (yes probably too lazy to check) but shouldn't the x4 cloaks have red slots?</p><p>Two handers are still a bit pointless. Perhaps introducing a new adornment slot type (say green) and add a merchant in Thurgadin with 5 or 6 adornment.</p><p>Finally the new x4 necks are a bit garbage. They should include a unique proc of some type for each archtype. AoE melee proc for scouts much thanks :p</p>

Wirewhisker
04-02-2011, 10:55 PM
<p>Still no haste on priest gear this expac...Inquisitors everywhere mourn.</p>

Lethe5683
04-03-2011, 01:07 AM
<p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>While you are making changes, can you PLEASE get rid of riposte chance on the scout items? I seriously get dumber everytime I see it. I don't even care what you replace it with...<strong>even if it's nothing.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Are you crazy? While uncontested avoidance might not be a so good for scouts as some sort of significant DPS increasing stat would be it is certainly far better than nothing.  The +riposte damage on the other hand... not so much.</p>

ccarro
04-03-2011, 10:34 AM
<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>While you are making changes, can you PLEASE get rid of riposte chance on the scout items? I seriously get dumber everytime I see it. I don't even care what you replace it with...<strong>even if it's nothing.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Are you crazy? While uncontested avoidance might not be a so good for scouts as some sort of significant DPS increasing stat would be <span style="color: #ff0000;">it is certainly far better than nothing.</span>  The +riposte damage on the other hand... not so much.</p></blockquote><p>Nope. I don't care if they just take riposte off and add nothing back. I get dumber everytime I examine a piece of scout gear just to see a riposte stat on it. I would love to see some other stat replace it, but most of all I  just want to see it gone.</p>

Leovinus
04-03-2011, 02:41 PM
<p>The fighter and scout necklaces from the signature line have zero (0) MA on them, making them absolute trash in light of the recent revamps.  I believe they were missed, or at least hope that's the case.</p>

Lethe5683
04-03-2011, 10:24 PM
<p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>While you are making changes, can you PLEASE get rid of riposte chance on the scout items? I seriously get dumber everytime I see it. I don't even care what you replace it with...<strong>even if it's nothing.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Are you crazy? While uncontested avoidance might not be a so good for scouts as some sort of significant DPS increasing stat would be <span style="color: #ff0000;">it is certainly far better than nothing.</span>  The +riposte damage on the other hand... not so much.</p></blockquote><p>Nope. I don't care if they just take riposte off and add nothing back. I get dumber everytime I examine a piece of scout gear just to see a riposte stat on it. I would love to see some other stat replace it, but most of all I  just want to see it gone.</p></blockquote><p>That's just stupid.  Asking for less stats on gear for no reason other than that you don't like it makes no sense.  I could understand wanting it replaced with MA or something but just getting rid of it is not a good thing.</p>

EndevorX
04-03-2011, 11:36 PM
<p><span style="font-size: 11px; font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">SmokeJumper wrote:</span></p><div><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cae0e6;">We are bumping up the power of Velious dungeon and raid items.  We’re doing this to make those items more competitive when compared with Public Quest items, because instances are tougher than the PQs and deserve better rewards. This does include shard armors.</span></p><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #cae0e6;">We are also going to bump up the power of hard-mode raid loot so hard modes are even more rewarding, as they require significant time and effort to beat.  NOTE: This doesn’t include war runes since they are already quite powerful.</span><span style="color: #ffcc00;">The net result of these changes makes dungeons and raids a bit more rewarding and also balances things out so that people with a full public quest set will be able to find solid item upgrades in dungeons.</span></p><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #cae0e6;">These changes will occur next week sometime. If they happen sooner than that, we'll let you know.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">This was never done.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The items that WERE upgrades WERE NERFED & none were upgraded to take their place (overall).</span></p></div>

ccarro
04-04-2011, 03:08 PM
<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>While you are making changes, can you PLEASE get rid of riposte chance on the scout items? I seriously get dumber everytime I see it. I don't even care what you replace it with...<strong>even if it's nothing.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Are you crazy? While uncontested avoidance might not be a so good for scouts as some sort of significant DPS increasing stat would be <span style="color: #ff0000;">it is certainly far better than nothing.</span>  The +riposte damage on the other hand... not so much.</p></blockquote><p>Nope. I don't care if they just take riposte off and add nothing back. I get dumber everytime I examine a piece of scout gear just to see a riposte stat on it. I would love to see some other stat replace it, but most of all I  just want to see it gone.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That's just stupid.</span>  Asking for less stats on gear for no reason other than that you don't like it makes no sense.  I could understand wanting it replaced with MA or something but just getting rid of it is not a good thing.</p></blockquote><p>It's no more stupid than putting riposte on the items to begin with. Scout items with riposte is the dumbest thing in this game since Shard of Love.</p>

Lethe5683
04-04-2011, 11:25 PM
<p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That's just stupid.</span>  Asking for less stats on gear for no reason other than that you don't like it makes no sense.  I could understand wanting it replaced with MA or something but just getting rid of it is not a good thing.</p></blockquote><p>It's no more stupid than putting riposte on the items to begin with. Scout items with riposte is the dumbest thing in this game since Shard of Love.</p></blockquote><p>Actually it is.  They might not be DPS stats but at least they are semi-useful and situationally very usefull.</p>

Shrag
04-05-2011, 02:49 PM
<p>awesome, you forgot to add multi attack to the charms listed</p><p>please dont make us wait another week or tell us that you have no idea how to itemize and wont be upgrading the charms that drop off harder encounters</p>

ccarro
04-06-2011, 04:07 PM
<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That's just stupid.</span>  Asking for less stats on gear for no reason other than that you don't like it makes no sense.  I could understand wanting it replaced with MA or something but just getting rid of it is not a good thing.</p></blockquote><p>It's no more stupid than putting riposte on the items to begin with. Scout items with riposte is the dumbest thing in this game since Shard of Love.</p></blockquote><p>Actually it is.  They might not be DPS stats but at least they are semi-useful and <span style="color: #ff0000;">situationally very usefull.</span></p></blockquote><p>I have yet to ever say to myself....gee, if I only had a little more riposte.</p><p>Not useful, and not wanted. Drop the riposte from scout items!</p>

Lethe5683
04-07-2011, 04:17 PM
<p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That's just stupid.</span>  Asking for less stats on gear for no reason other than that you don't like it makes no sense.  I could understand wanting it replaced with MA or something but just getting rid of it is not a good thing.</p></blockquote><p>It's no more stupid than putting riposte on the items to begin with. Scout items with riposte is the dumbest thing in this game since Shard of Love.</p></blockquote><p>Actually it is.  They might not be DPS stats but at least they are semi-useful and <span style="color: #ff0000;">situationally very usefull.</span></p></blockquote><p>I have yet to ever say to myself....gee, if I only had a little more riposte.</p><p>Not useful, and not wanted. Drop the riposte from scout items!</p></blockquote><p>I would rather have riposte than nothing any day.  You act as if it's ministration or something.</p><p>Of course it would be better to have MA or something instead of the riposte chance but why would you want it removed and replaced with nothing?  That's just plain deleterious.</p>

Jrel
04-08-2011, 02:15 PM
<p><cite>Silius wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cesium@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Eye of the Shadow Beast - didnt get the MA adjustment all the other charms got.</p><p>Looming Sadness Gorget - missing crit bonus</p><p>Enraging Wristlet of the Changeling - This item lost 20ma, but similar wrists from heroic content remained the same</p><p>Not sure if its intended, but a large amount of heroic items still have ridiculous amounts of MA when compared to Raid slots.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for pointing these out just made the proper adjustments.</p></blockquote><p>Silius, would you please look at this thread <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=75&topic_id=473618" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=473618</a> (in the appropriate forum)? There are many other items that need re-balancing.</p>

Chanson
04-08-2011, 02:32 PM
<p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">That's just stupid.</span>  Asking for less stats on gear for no reason other than that you don't like it makes no sense.  I could understand wanting it replaced with MA or something but just getting rid of it is not a good thing.</p></blockquote><p>It's no more stupid than putting riposte on the items to begin with. Scout items with riposte is the dumbest thing in this game since Shard of Love.</p></blockquote><p>Actually it is.  They might not be DPS stats but at least they are semi-useful and <span style="color: #ff0000;">situationally very usefull.</span></p></blockquote><p>I have yet to ever say to myself....gee, if I only had a little more riposte.</p><p>Not useful, and not wanted. Drop the riposte from scout items!</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure some solo scouts appreciate the slight avoidance gain from this. Could there be something better? Definately. You may think it's useles, but is uncontested avoidance useless for all scouts? Again, situationally (and I'm thinking soloer's mostly here) it's useful. Not the best choice for a stat, but it isn't useless to everyone.</p>

Shrag
04-12-2011, 01:37 PM
<p>2 accuracy and 12 DPS mod still dont even come close to 30 Multi attack</p>

GorgukGrimmfist
04-14-2011, 04:37 PM
<p><cite>Circadian@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>While you are making changes, can you PLEASE get rid of riposte chance on the scout items? I seriously get dumber everytime I see it. I don't even care what you replace it with...even if it's nothing.</p></blockquote><p>Scouts actually DO need this now.  The riposte chance on scout gear is to make up for the fact that your AGI does not affect your base avoidance now.  If you didn't have this you would essentially have a 0% avoidance chance (unless you used a shield LOL, I would love to see the day a scout did this).</p>