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Juull
03-30-2011, 03:54 PM
<p>The trick to flying is learning not to hit the ground.  Is it possible that my collection of carpets and clouds could be taught this trick, please?  I'd really love to be able to use them for appearance at least - neither the griffon or the mini-Enterprise really do it for me.  It seems that I have a stable full of worthless mounts that will never see the light of day unless I turn them in to house plushies!  Honestly, what I'd really like to see is a revamp of how mounts work entirely.  My idea:</p><p>Once you earn/purchase a mount, you are granted their speed innately, as part of your character - the speed bonus is suspended when appropriate.  So as you upgrade mounts, you naturally get faster.  Once you gain a flying mount, you gain the ability to fly.  You'd have essentially 4 different displays available over both appearance and stat bonus categories:</p><p>                       stat                      appearance</p><p>swim:       ground mount          suspended</p><p>dungeon: ground mount          suspended</p><p>land:        ground mount             any mount</p><p>sky:         flying mount             flying appearance mount - flag carpets and clouds as both ground and flying so that I can mix and match as I see fit.</p><p>What this would also allow is that if you use a stat mount but no land appearance mount, you will run at your best mount speed but not be riding anything.  This may seem silly as many of us utilize the /suspend_mount_mode command to completely disappear all mounts, but it would give invididual players the ability  to gain the benefits of a mount while running around (hey, some people really want this).  I'd suggest that there be a small delay between flying and running along the ground, just to make up for accidental altitude loss.</p><p>So, if you started in the water here's what would happen: swim along to the coast, then leave the water and magically summon your trusty steed so that you can gallop along the sand dunes.  Reach the top of the dune, jump into the air magically hopping on board your trusty flying carpet, zooming off towards the mountain tops.</p><p>PS - How about making a 30-day quest for Fae/Arasi to collect enough feathers from their griffon in order to fashion wings that really work (or something along those lines).  Is it *really* game breaking that winged characters have some course of regaining an ability that they once had (at least according to lore)?  By all means, make them earn it - but for Pete's sake, their magic and they have wings - let them learn how to fly!</p>

staffa1975
03-31-2011, 04:25 PM
<p>Not entirely sure what your chart is representing, but either way you look at it, it is flawed.</p><p>Either stat refers to the speed bonus, in which case it is suspended for swim and dungon or stat refers to blue stat bonus's, in which case, as you can't fight while flying, it is rather meaningless there.</p><p>What they really need is a second mount slot that creates another button that lets you summon a different mount.</p><p>Thus, two buttons I can create, one would summon my ground/stat mount the other my flying mount.</p><p>They could also make a swimming mount, that would be awesome, gives water breathing and makes you swim super fast.</p>

Yimway
03-31-2011, 04:33 PM
<p><cite>staffa1975 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>They could also make a swimming mount, that would be awesome, gives water breathing and makes you swim super fast.</p></blockquote><p>Interesting idea, I've always wanted to ride a mermaid!</p><p><span style="font-size: xx-small;">Hmm, maybe that didn't come out quite right...</span></p>

Juull
03-31-2011, 05:19 PM
<p>Like I said above (probably very poorly), run speed would be something that became innate to your character.  It would suspend in the appropriate areas, but it would be in effect whether or not you had a mount equipped.  Let's say you did a regular progression of things, and got your little quested horse at level 20ish.  It has (I believe) 40% run speed.  Once you earn it, congratz - no matter what mount you are using, your character has a 40% mounted speed.  Now you got some SC for your birthday and buy a Premium Mount (let's say the arcane disc) for your birthday.  Congratz, your innate mounted speed is 65%, even if you never equip the darn thing. </p><p>Make a little more sense now?  Basically I'm just frustrated that I never get to see my ground mounts unless I turn off my flying mount, which pretty much guarantees I am going to forget and run headlong of a cliff at some point.</p>

Rainmare
03-31-2011, 06:37 PM
<p>while I would agree that the flying carpet/clouds would be nice for appearance purpose...I don't particualrly care for the rest of it. if your riding a mount, your riding a dang mount. I wish people would just accept that and stop with the I want to run at70% on foot for no other reason then 'I want my mounts buffs but becuase it's not a mount tailored specificly to my personal tastes I shouldn't have to see it.' you are riding a horse/gryffon/carpet/cloud/warg/rhino/direbear/wolf. so suck it up and deal with riding it. that aslo goes for the 'speed buff' a wolf runs faster then a bear. the magically disks more faster then a living animal. you pick the mount you want not only for stats but for speed. that's why there's so many versions of mounts. in fact as far as stats go, I'd make it even tougher on your by designing mount stats with the creature in mind. a wolf should be fast. but it's stats would reflect speed over power. a rhino might be slow, but they are tough, and I'd stat it with lots of defensive measures to show it.</p><p>and it seems the bulk of your wanting this huge convoluted system is becuase you don't want to pay the minimal attention it would require to NOT run off a cliff with a horse rather then a gryffon. but then again, since you'd prefer to never see a mount your riding, that's probably why you forget in the first place, considering a horse looks a hell of a lot different then a gryffon. and you don't want to take time to switch your mounts out depending on what your doing/personal preferance at the time.</p><p>quit trying to get the game to compensate for you not being able or being unwilling to pay attention to what you're doing. Quit trying to get it to do things for you, because heaven forbid you take 30 seconds to swap a mount.</p>

Cusashorn
03-31-2011, 06:51 PM
<p><cite>Juull@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> Is it *really* game breaking that winged characters have some course of regaining an ability that they once had (at least according to lore)?  By all means, make them earn it - but for Pete's sake, their magic and they have wings - let them learn how to fly!</p></blockquote><p>You can't regain what you never had to begin with. The Fae could never fly. They can glide and float, but true flight is still outside of their physical capabilities. This is part of the lore. They may be born from magic and nature, but they're still physical entities who don't have muscles in their wings.</p><p>Ttobey mentioned in the past that the Gryphons (and by extent the crash pads) have many more animations to their models than the flying carpets and clouds have, and this is the reason why they haven't been turned into flying appearance mounts yet. I'm guessing that more animations would need to be added.</p>

Tyrus Dracofire
04-03-2011, 01:58 PM
<p>mermaid??? try the "seahorse"</p><p>which it allow you to breath in water while riding seahorse, will need some jewelries to backup breathing if in combat.</p><p>searching many ancient ruins or lost cities to visit.</p>