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Darkshadow29

02-19-2011, 10:35 AM

Hello all, as the title says, I am wanting to replace my card(s) for one that will allow me to play EQ2 at maxed out settings (but not worried about shader 3.0, at least from what I have seen), and I will go into my spec so you can see and help me out<table style="width: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 0in; mso-yfti-tbllook: 1184; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 0in;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr ><td width="25%" valign="top">CPUi7 920 Stock clocking</td><td width="25%" valign="top">MotherboardX58 Evga Classified x3 SLI</td><td width="25%" valign="top">MemoryCorsair Dominator 6gig DDR3 </td><td width="25%" valign="top">Graphics CardBFG maxcore 55 OC 260 x2(SLI)</td></tr><tr ><td valign="top">Hard Drive160gb Intel X-25 SSD, 640g Black</td><td valign="top">Power SupplyThermaltake Toughpower 1200w</td><td valign="top">OSWin7 Home Premium 64bit</td><td valign="top">MonitorGateway - 24" Widescreen Flat-Panel LCD HD Monitor</td></tr></tbody></table>and I do have EQ2 on teh SSD for speed of access. Will I see a increase of speed of load over a normal HD? And I am playing in 1920*1200 res. and I will be upgrading over the next 6 months to a 2560*1600. So here is my questions1) Does EQ2 use SLI? And does Sli really do much for the game or would I do better with just one card? and what about Phx card? I have a old 9600 setting around I am not using.2) What card or cards(if sli can be used with out destorying performance) would you suggest to use for those res with max graphic settings. 460, 570 or 580?Thank you for your time and I am sure as you answer this question more will come up.

Smirk

02-19-2011, 11:09 AM

1, no.2, either of those cards will do, you won't see 60+ fps in raids in max settings. this game is heavily cpu bound and even the new SB cpu's oc'd to 4.8-5ghz can't run the game in 60 fps in those settings

Darkshadow29

02-19-2011, 12:09 PM

1) So there is no real reason to worry about getting 2 cards for this game right? what about the fact that I am running sli right now on the 260's that I have right now. Will that hurt my FPS? and would a Phyic card (9600gt) be worth messing with? And if I do run sli for game like Dragon age 2 and mass effect 3 etc, is there away to shut the sli off while playing EQ2?2) So if I get a 580gtx and OC my CPU from 2.6 to 4.0 or so I would see a lot better then I am seeing now with my system?

Smirk

02-19-2011, 12:32 PM

1, i've seen people gain fps by turning off sli, i've never used 2 cards so i don't know where to turn it off. a physics card will not help eq2 but won't hurt it either, might be nice if you play other games.2, the cpu OC will help for sure, but the gtx580 is way overkill for eq2, a gtx 460 or 560 will be enough. depending on what other games you play it might be worth getting the gtx580 though <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Darkshadow29

02-19-2011, 12:35 PM

and thats even using res 1920*1200 and in the future using 2560*1600 a 460 or 570 would be ok?

MurFalad

02-19-2011, 12:40 PM

Just a note, but I find shader 3.0 on my ATI 4870 1Gb a boost to performance, so anything at that speed or above should get benefits from turning it on.And EQ2 does not support dual graphics cards, so I'd not bother going with them (unless perhaps setting one to do AA - not sure if that's a boost?).

Darkshadow29

02-19-2011, 02:02 PM

But even using res 1920*1200 and in the future using 2560*1600 a 570 would be ok?

Smirk

02-19-2011, 02:08 PM

<cite>Darkshadow29 wrote:</cite><blockquote>But even using res 1920*1200 and in the future using 2560*1600 a 570 would be ok?</blockquote>for eq2, yes <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />im running a gtx560 using 1920x1200 with 4xAA and 16xAF and noticed no major difference upgrading from a radeon 4890

Darkshadow29

02-19-2011, 02:33 PM

What CPU and speed is it at? What kind of FPS are you getting?

Smirk

02-19-2011, 04:32 PM

<cite>Darkshadow29 wrote:</cite><blockquote>What CPU and speed is it at? What kind of FPS are you getting?</blockquote>i have a i5 2500k @ 4.8ghz, no shadows, no shader 3, complex shader distance at 80, everything else on max for group content usually leaves me with minimum 30 fps.in raids i turn down particle lvl of detail to the point where i don't drop under 30ish fps, which is usually around half the slider, in some zones i need to turn it down more, like UD wing 1i5 2500k @ 4.8ghz, 4gb ram, msi p67a-gd55, gigabyte gtx560 is my system, settings in nvidia control panel are put to max quality, 4xAA, 16xAF, 1920x1200

Darkshadow29

02-22-2011, 10:56 AM

Sorry, been busy the last few days, but anyways, I didnt mean 60 FPS, I meant to say 35 FPS. I dont know why I was thinking 60 FPS. Because beyond 35 or so the eye cant see a difference, but I do want as many as I can get for that padding for raids. But I am looking ofr 35 to 40 FPS in raids.I have my i7 920 now OC to 4.33 and in the next few hours my 2 570's will be delivered. and next month I will be steping them up to 580's. But I know that the game doesnt use SLI, so when playing I will disable SLI. But where do I set the AA and AF at? in game or throw the Nvida program?

Smirk

02-22-2011, 01:04 PM

you set AA and AF in the nvidia control panel, 3d settingsAA - mode need to be set as override any application setting for eq2.then you can pick any aa - setting as you like, though i don't recommend the xQ setting as it is quite heavy on the gfx even in eq2AF can be set to 16 with no major loss in fps

Darkshadow29

02-22-2011, 01:27 PM

Ok got my 2 570 installed and messing with the manage the 3d settings. I am under program settings, and on Everquest 2. I have:AF x16 Antialasing- Gamma correction OffAntialasing- mode OverrideAntialasing- setting 4xAntialasing- Transparency OffCUDA-GPU AllMaximum pre- rerendering frames 3Muti-display/mixed Muitiple display performancePower management mode MaxTexture flitering OnTexture filtering- negative LOD bias ClampTexture filtering- Quality QualityTexture Filtering- Trilinear Optimixation AutoTriple buffering Off (should I turn this one?)texture filtering_ AF optimiziation OffVertical sync Use the 3d ApplicationSO what should I change to increase the use of the cards.

Smirk

02-22-2011, 04:12 PM

aa - gamma correction: onaa - transparency: supersampling for better img qualitytexture filtering - quality: high qualitytripple buffering should be on if you play with vsync

Darkshadow29

02-22-2011, 04:30 PM

Ok made those changes.And what about this settingsSLI rendering Mode: Nvidia RecommendedTexture Filtering- Negative LOD Bias: ClampTextured Filtering- Anisotropic Filter Optmiz: OffWhat about Threaded Optimization: Autoaa - transparency: supersampling (but which one, I have 2x, 4x,8x. SO which do I want to set it to?)Thank you for all the help. still waiting on getting into game to see what I get FPS.

Darkshadow29

02-22-2011, 06:42 PM

Also is there some changes I need to make in game to make to better too. Other then put the Performance in Exreme quality or what ever? And what would you suggest I put that on with a i7 920 4.3ghz 6 gig ram, and a gtx 570?

Smirk

02-22-2011, 06:52 PM

<cite>Darkshadow29 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok made those changes.And what about this settingsSLI rendering Mode: Nvidia RecommendedTexture Filtering- Negative LOD Bias: ClampTextured Filtering- Anisotropic Filter Optmiz: OffWhat about Threaded Optimization: Autoaa - transparency: supersampling (but which one, I have 2x, 4x,8x. SO which do I want to set it to?)Thank you for all the help. still waiting on getting into game to see what I get FPS.</blockquote>what can you pick on sli rendering mode? i don't have 2 cards so not got that option <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />Texture Filtering- Negative LOD Bias should be clamp with AF on, AF optimization should be off imo. threaded opt can be left on auto.aa transparency, well, take your pick, higher value should result in better img quality, though im not sure about the performance hit.the control panel have a decent descrition of the settings and i usually pick the higher img quality optionabout the ingame settings, well, you will have to play around with the settings to find a good middle ground i think. i run all settings maxed with no shadows and no shader 3 in groups, particle lvl of detail is probably where you can gain the most by tweaking, shadows are heavy on the pc as well

Darkshadow29

02-22-2011, 07:11 PM

OK I turned the SLI thing to single card, since EQ2 doesnt use SLI, wish it did, and wish they would fix it where you can dump alot of you graphics onto a GPU like most games. AAnd Thank you for all your help.Shader 3.0 makes everything glass look messed up and rainbowed. So I dont use it. might just be my machine.Also another question I have is that under display option ingame, at the bottom there is an Advanced option for software forced AA, I have to look at it when I am in a bit. But should it be checked?

Smirk

02-22-2011, 08:09 PM

keep the software forced aa checkedgood luck tweaking the game <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />