How does the DoV stat change affect Brawlers ?

[BetaTester]

<p>is Str or Agi our primary now , and how does that affect avoidance ?</p><p>does everybody have the same avoid now ?</p>

[Silzin]

STR is our stat, we are a fighter after all. for avoidance, we will be loosing some contested avoidance (and in some cases its a lot) but its only contested avoidance and hasnt mattered for a long time.

[Rasttan]

<p>Hopefully they stick block chance back on our weapons, I saw none on any weapons in Beta considering thats our number 1 source for block chance, upgrading weapons might mean using SF weapons for tanking and Vel ones for dps.</p><p>Maybe since itemizations was all over the place every patch they will eventually get some block on Vel weapons</p>

[BChizzle]

<p>Like always our gear will suck and we will play last fiddle to everyone else.  It sucks because Xelgad is really in touch with making brawlers effective now if only the guys making the items can get their act together we'd have a really great class.</p>

[Bruener]

<p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Like always our gear will suck and we will play last fiddle to everyone else.  It sucks because Xelgad is really in touch with making brawlers effective now if only the guys making the items can get their act together we'd have a really great class.</p></blockquote><p>Brawlers aren't effective?</p><p>Thats some news.</p>

[BChizzle]

<p><cite>Bruener wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Like always our gear will suck and we will play last fiddle to everyone else.  It sucks because Xelgad is really in touch with making brawlers effective now if only the guys making the items can get their act together we'd have a really great class.</p></blockquote><p>Brawlers aren't effective?</p><p>Thats some news.</p></blockquote><p>Hey troll where did I say that brawlers weren't effective?  Go back to crying about how your SK is underpowered in the whine and cry forum and leave the monk threads alone.</p>

[Silzin]

Brawlers can be very effective, if at lease 2 things are met first. 1. The Gear is there to support the brawler. 2. The Player is very skilled in playing there class. With out both brawlers are very hard to play... at lease hard to tank with.

[Bruener]

<p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bruener wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Like always our gear will suck and we will play last fiddle to everyone else.  It sucks because Xelgad is really in touch with making brawlers effective now if only the guys making the items can get their act together we'd have a really great class.</p></blockquote><p>Brawlers aren't effective?</p><p>Thats some news.</p></blockquote><p>Hey troll where did I say that brawlers weren't effective?  Go back to crying about how your SK is underpowered in the whine and cry forum and leave the monk threads alone.</p></blockquote><p>I am pretty sure that saying you will play last fiddle to everyone else, and than complaining about itemization not being on board to make Brawlers effective...says exactly that.</p><p>You can take itemization completely out of the equation since it is exactly the same in DoV for all Fighters.</p><p>The fact is Brawlers are probably going to take the xpac and run with it.  I mean its all ST, HP pools are extremely large having people worry less about spike damage, Brawler ST hate is just as good as everybody elses, and guess what its a ST xpac.</p><p>To the posts question, the changes nerf AE tanks a lot, and the xpac is mostly ST and Brawlers will shine.</p>

[BChizzle]

<p><cite>Bruener wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bruener wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Like always our gear will suck and we will play last fiddle to everyone else.  It sucks because Xelgad is really in touch with making brawlers effective now if only the guys making the items can get their act together we'd have a really great class.</p></blockquote><p>Brawlers aren't effective?</p><p>Thats some news.</p></blockquote><p>Hey troll where did I say that brawlers weren't effective?  Go back to crying about how your SK is underpowered in the whine and cry forum and leave the monk threads alone.</p></blockquote><p>I am pretty sure that saying you will play last fiddle to everyone else, and than complaining about itemization not being on board to make Brawlers effective...says exactly that.</p><p>You can take itemization completely out of the equation since it is exactly the same in DoV for all Fighters.</p><p>The fact is Brawlers are probably going to take the xpac and run with it.  I mean its all ST, HP pools are extremely large having people worry less about spike damage, Brawler ST hate is just as good as everybody elses, and guess what its a ST xpac.</p><p>To the posts question, the changes nerf AE tanks a lot, and the xpac is mostly ST and Brawlers will shine.</p></blockquote><p>First off itemization isn't equal, I won't have access to the same weapons as you or even remotely the same amount of weapons as you, I won't be able to take advantage of procs that proc when you are hit as much as you.  It goes on and on.</p><p>You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about follow my advice and head to the cry baby SK forum and cry there about how the most OP tank the SK is going to suck.</p>