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Nipit

12-25-2010, 07:42 PM

what card would be best to replace my EV3A GeForce GTX280 with. I am assuming mine just took a crap My computer loads fine to the password screen once I log in I get a wave of blue or green colors across my monitor: See video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg</a>I put an older card in and it seems to run fine.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> i was thinking about the GTX480 OR 460. My computer:AMD phenom 2 x4 995 3.21 GHz4 gb DDR3 1333mhz ramVista 64 bitEV3A GeForce GTX 280LPS Ultra 750 Watt ATX power supply

Peogia

12-25-2010, 08:19 PM

<cite>Peculiarity@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>what card would be best to replace my EV3A GeForce GTX280 with. I am assuming mine just took a crap My computer loads fine to the password screen once I log in I get a wave of blue or green colors across my monitor: See video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg</a>I put an older card in and it seems to run fine.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> i was thinking about the GTX480 OR 460. My computer:AMD phenom 2 x4 995 3.21 GHz4 gb DDR3 1333mhz ramVista 64 bitEV3A GeForce GTX 280LPS Ultra 750 Watt ATX power supply </blockquote>480 is obsolete<a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.nvidia.com/object/produc...gtx-580-us.html</a>460 is nice but way overkill for everquest 2 it can't utilize the card once u reach a 240+ it becomes a $$ waster for this game Everquest II bottle necks on CPU for all rendering

Nipit

12-25-2010, 09:40 PM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peculiarity@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>what card would be best to replace my EV3A GeForce GTX280 with. I am assuming mine just took a crap My computer loads fine to the password screen once I log in I get a wave of blue or green colors across my monitor: See video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg</a>I put an older card in and it seems to run fine.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> i was thinking about the GTX480 OR 460. My computer:AMD phenom 2 x4 995 3.21 GHz4 gb DDR3 1333mhz ramVista 64 bitEV3A GeForce GTX 280LPS Ultra 750 Watt ATX power supply </blockquote>480 is obsolete<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/produc...gtx-580-us.html</a>460 is nice but way overkill for everquest 2 it can't utilize the card once u reach a 240+ it becomes a $$ waster for this game Everquest II bottle necks on CPU for all rendering</blockquote>Thanks Peogia, so if I replace my 280 with a 260, or a 580 I should not notice a difference?I was thinking I burned up my 280 because I play multiple games at the same time wit ACT and Vent running. I was thinking I stressed out my system / Video card? Should I do 2 260’s, or just one?Also with my current system will I get any improvement from doubling my Ram? Also is one version of the card better than others? Thanks again

Wingrider01

12-26-2010, 09:37 AM

<cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peculiarity@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>what card would be best to replace my EV3A GeForce GTX280 with. I am assuming mine just took a crap My computer loads fine to the password screen once I log in I get a wave of blue or green colors across my monitor: See video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg</a>I put an older card in and it seems to run fine.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> i was thinking about the GTX480 OR 460. My computer:AMD phenom 2 x4 995 3.21 GHz4 gb DDR3 1333mhz ramVista 64 bitEV3A GeForce GTX 280LPS Ultra 750 Watt ATX power supply </blockquote>480 is obsolete<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/produc...gtx-580-us.html</a>460 is nice but way overkill for everquest 2 it can't utilize the card once u reach a 240+ it becomes a $$ waster for this game Everquest II bottle necks on CPU for all rendering</blockquote>where do you get the idea the 480 is obsolete? considering it is the same nvidia model line that generated the 460, so that makes you other recommendation a obsolete card also. The you turn around and suggest a 240, which is a slightly upgrade 9xxx series Nvidia chipset - it's ati competitor is the 4000 series card.The 580 is a great card, but the base system needs the horsepower to drive it, a 800+ watt PSU, a fast cpu, and a stable system.to the op - if you want to spend the money on the card and beefing up the system go with a 500 series vidoe card, if you want to conserve resources go with a 400 series card. In either case you may have to increase the wattage on the PSU, for the 400 series card you need a MINIMUM of a 550 Watt PSU, depending on what ever else you are running a 600-750 Watt would be a better choice. Do NOT skimp on the psu, more machines are labels unstable or complaints of "the application does not support the nvidia video card" are reported and the simple fault is a underpowered PSU or a cheap PSU. Buy a a quality psu of suffucient wattage and thingd will be a lot more stable.I run both - a custom box with a pair of 480's and another with multiple 580's both machines run well when fine tuned, when I tri-box I prefer the 580 system because it is mated to a I7-980X @ 3.30 processor, the 480 system is no slouch though, it is mated to a I7-650 @ 3.20. Unfortunately eq2 is still process bound when it comes to graphics, but they have made vast improvements in that in the last year, there are specific options in the program that you can set to help balance the load. One of the biggest configuration options that is overlooked when tuning the video card performance in the newer nvidia cards - 200 series plus is the options regarding Multi-display/mixed display acceleration and power management mode. In the case of the first - the driver normally sets it correctly but it can be wrong, verify that the performance setting is correct for your monitor configuration - singe or multiple monitors.The second on power mode always defaults to "adaptive" this can greatly affect video performance, set it to "prefer maximum performance"

Nipit

12-26-2010, 01:47 PM

Thanks WingrinderI was looking at the GTX 480 or 460? Both seem to be an upgrade except for <a name="OLE_LINK2"></a><a name="OLE_LINK1">the </a>Memory Interface Width the 280 had 512-bit, and the 480 only has 348-bit. Will this make a noticeable difference?This is the computer I will be running:<ul><li><div>AMD phenom 2 x4 995 3.21 GHz</div></li><li><div>4 gb DDR3 1333mhz ram</div></li><li><div>Vista 64 bit</div></li><li><div>EV3A GeForce GTX 280 (will be replacing) </div></li><li><div>LPS Ultra 750 Watt ATX power supply</div></li></ul>Will this power supply work, also should I double my ram when I replace my card? Thanks again

Peogia

12-26-2010, 04:00 PM

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peogia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Peculiarity@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>what card would be best to replace my EV3A GeForce GTX280 with. I am assuming mine just took a crap My computer loads fine to the password screen once I log in I get a wave of blue or green colors across my monitor: See video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guS2UoUjQtg</a>I put an older card in and it seems to run fine.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> i was thinking about the GTX480 OR 460. My computer:AMD phenom 2 x4 995 3.21 GHz4 gb DDR3 1333mhz ramVista 64 bitEV3A GeForce GTX 280LPS Ultra 750 Watt ATX power supply </blockquote>480 is obsolete<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html" target="_blank">http://www.nvidia.com/object/produc...gtx-580-us.html</a>460 is nice but way overkill for everquest 2 it can't utilize the card once u reach a 240+ it becomes a $$ waster for this game Everquest II bottle necks on CPU for all rendering</blockquote>where do you get the idea the 480 is obsolete? considering it is the same nvidia model line that generated the 460, so that makes you other recommendation a obsolete card also. The you turn around and suggest a 240, which is a slightly upgrade 9xxx series Nvidia chipset - it's ati competitor is the 4000 series card.The 580 is a great card, but the base system needs the horsepower to drive it, a 800+ watt PSU, a fast cpu, and a stable system.to the op - if you want to spend the money on the card and beefing up the system go with a 500 series vidoe card, if you want to conserve resources go with a 400 series card. In either case you may have to increase the wattage on the PSU, for the 400 series card you need a MINIMUM of a 550 Watt PSU, depending on what ever else you are running a 600-750 Watt would be a better choice. Do NOT skimp on the psu, more machines are labels unstable or complaints of "the application does not support the nvidia video card" are reported and the simple fault is a underpowered PSU or a cheap PSU. Buy a a quality psu of suffucient wattage and thingd will be a lot more stable.I run both - a custom box with a pair of 480's and another with multiple 580's both machines run well when fine tuned, when I tri-box I prefer the 580 system because it is mated to a I7-980X @ 3.30 processor, the 480 system is no slouch though, it is mated to a I7-650 @ 3.20. Unfortunately eq2 is still process bound when it comes to graphics, but they have made vast improvements in that in the last year, there are specific options in the program that you can set to help balance the load. One of the biggest configuration options that is overlooked when tuning the video card performance in the newer nvidia cards - 200 series plus is the options regarding Multi-display/mixed display acceleration and power management mode. In the case of the first - the driver normally sets it correctly but it can be wrong, verify that the performance setting is correct for your monitor configuration - singe or multiple monitors.The second on power mode always defaults to "adaptive" this can greatly affect video performance, set it to "prefer maximum performance"</blockquote>I never suggested a 240 i was just usen it as an example that no mater how much $$$ u poor into a pc for Everquest 2 frame rates will be the same and still run at 1 frame 90% + of the time lol unless ur in a dungeon where there is nothing to render or empty house ect lol then frame rates will usually be undesirable in eq2 a 100ghz per core duel core + might help with poor frame rates in eq2 unless they ever decide to fix the graphics engine 460 is a great card if u wanna play other games and newer games ect 260 only supports dx10 no 10.1 or 11 so will be limited by what it can do480 is obsolete and was replaced by 580 get over it prices about the same give or take 20 bucks and the 580 will crush the 480 plus the 480 has harsh driver/heating issues lol unless u get water cooling for it but even then still gotta deal with those drivers lol and 2 460's in sli crush 480<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> but i don't think eq2 supports sli thoughI have a 240 and a 460 and they run exactly the same frame for frame in Everquest 2

Nipit

12-27-2010, 12:36 PM

I bought the GTX460 yesterday, but now my GTX280 seems to be working again?? I will probably install it later today just to see if there is any difference… The second on power mode always defaults to "adaptive" this can greatly affect video performance, set it to "prefer maximum performance" I can’t find this setting under the Nvidia control panel? Any idea why?