Vampire lair?

[Blakkmantis]

<p>For starters, I'll just copy and paste this, which I just found on the SOE site where they are promoting the new CS sale going on.</p><p>Copied from here.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.soe.com/doublesc/" target="_blank">http://www.soe.com/doublesc/</a></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;"><strong>Coming Soon!</strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>Freeblood Vampire Prestige Race</em> and</span></span><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span><strong><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">accessory pack</span> </span></strong><strong><span> </span></strong><span><span><span>which includes a</span></span><strong><span> </span></strong></span><strong><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Vampire Lair</em></span></span></strong> </span><span style="color: #ff0000;">and <em>Cloud of Bats Ability</em></span></p><p>Ok what the heck is this all about?  Have I missed something already talked about someplace here on these foums, or is this a slip of something coming in the future not told to us yet?  This is news to me.</p><p>Accessory pack?  And a vampire lair?  Is this going to be some of the still unannouced monthly rewards for this winter?  Is this going to be a /claim thing, or something we will have to purchase in the marketplace?</p>

[shadowscale]

<p>hope people who quallify for the race from the rewards program get this to.</p><p>whole thing is still leaveing me kind of annoyed...</p>

[Masako]

<p>Yeesh, I too hope those of us qualifying for the race by buying the expansion also qualify for this too. If not this is going to be another big slap in the face to the loyal subscribers.</p><p>Hopefully things are clarified soon.</p>

[Landiin]

<p><cite>Blakkmantis@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>For starters, I'll just copy and paste this, which I just found on the SOE site where they are promoting the new CS sale going on.</p><p>Copied from here.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.soe.com/doublesc/" target="_blank">http://www.soe.com/doublesc/</a></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;"><strong>Coming Soon!</strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>Freeblood Vampire Prestige Race</em> and</span></span><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span><strong><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">accessory pack</span> </span></strong><strong><span> </span></strong><span><span><span>which includes a</span></span><strong><span> </span></strong></span><strong><span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Vampire Lair</em></span></span></strong> </span><span style="color: #ff0000;">and <em>Cloud of Bats Ability</em></span></p><p>Ok what the heck is this all about?  Have I missed something already talked about someplace here on these foums, or is this a slip of something coming in the future not told to us yet?  This is news to me.</p><p>Accessory pack?  And a vampire lair?  Is this going to be some of the still unannouced monthly rewards for this winter?  Is this going to be a /claim thing, or something we will have to purchase in the marketplace?</p></blockquote><p>I would assume the accessory pack is an emergency pint of blood or 2 and stain remover. Vamp Lair would be housing off mmc or something like that area. Just my guess anyways...</p><p>I haven't read any of the lore they are putting out but I would guess you could find out where the lair might be from that. /shrug</p>

[CorpseGoddess]

<p>If the Lair is the Loping Plains haunted house, I will adore SOE foreverandeveramen.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>Weird how we haven't gotten any official response yet on this.</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p>they're going to whip out those giant floating coffins they joked about before they announced MMCE.</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p><cite>Blakkmantis@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Weird how we haven't gotten any official response yet on this.</p></blockquote><p>actually, that's not wierd, it's SOP.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>JoarAddam wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Blakkmantis@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Weird how we haven't gotten any official response yet on this.</p></blockquote><p>actually, that's not wierd, it's SOP.</p></blockquote><p>It's the weekend, nothing unusual about it being quiet on their end. After having so many mergers this week they're probably all still dead asleep. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Tygana]

<p>I just hope the acc. pack contains some crosses, wooden stakes, garlic, and unlimted charge holy water....</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" /></p>

[ekylok]

<p>Well, since this was on a Station Cash webpage, I'm pretty sure this will be the vampire (pack) offered through station cash everyone was expecting this month.</p><p>The vamps we get in Feb. will probably just be the race with no lair or bats illusion.</p><p>They have to make the Station Cash vamps more appealing so people will spend their money on it.</p>

[Iskandar]

<p>One of the dev posts (not sure who offhand) mentioned that the vampires would have "imperceptible beauty" style weapons to highlight their vampiric claw attack animations. I'm guessing this is probably the accessory pack.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>I'm more interested in the Vamp lair they talk about heading our way.  Is this going to be the same housing as the 7 yr vet reward housing?  Or a varient of?</p>

[PlaneCrazy]

<p>I'm sure SmokeJumper will jump in here (Moday'ish) and once again say that the info got out before they were ready and it's all really no big deal.. yada, yada, yada.</p><p>Left hand - Right hand sorta deal</p><p>You get the picture.</p><p>[Removed for Content], I need a new bottle of wine <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Blakkmantis]

<cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm sure SmokeJumper with jump in here (Moday'ish) and once again say that the info got out before they were ready and it's all really no big deal.. yada, yada, yada.</p><p>Left hand - Right hand sorta deal</p><p>You get the picture.</p><p>[Removed for Content], I need a new bottle of wine <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote> When I made this thread, thats exactly what I thought too. They had this info hidden in small print down at the bottom of a page, most people wouldn't ever even see.

[sorwen]

<p><cite>ekylok wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The vamps we get in Feb. will probably just be the race with no lair or bats illusion.</p><p>They have to make the Station Cash vamps more appealing so people will spend their money on it.</p></blockquote><p>This is my thought too.  I'm more than willing to bet that Feb is only the race.  They have to have a way to still milk money out of it.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Turns out the Cloud of Bats is a new mount</span></p>

[Masako]

<p><cite>sorwen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is my thought too.  I'm more than willing to bet that Feb is only the race.  They have to have a way to still milk money out of it.</p></blockquote><p>Milk money and IMO, [Removed for Content] off the regular subscribers. It's getting to the point where they may as not even bother trying to "reward" subscribers anymore when they're blatantly saying "Eff you guys with the subs, you're not paying us SC!"</p>

[Calthine]

<p><cite>Blakkmantis@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Weird how we haven't gotten any official response yet on this.</p></blockquote><p>Not at all.  The OP was made after office hours on a Friday.  It's Saturday.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

You mean to tell me nobody at all works during the weekends? I guess this game is getting old. =/

[Katz]

<p>I imagine that some people do work on weekends, but they aren't the people that would comment on something like this.  Only specific people would comment on something like this.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>Going to bump this, so to be sure somebody in that office sees this monday morning.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>Seriously still no word on this?</p><p>/sigh</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p>Amnerys posting a reply to something like this isn't like us clicking the post reply button and spewing whatever we want all over the internetz.  There will be research, emails back and forth for clarification, and then it will be submitted to someone who won't have the time to read it and will rubber stamp whatever is there, but it will still take a few hours to get into that person's rubber stamp queue.</p>

[Snowdonia]

<p>I'm chomping at the bit here! I'll be getting the free one in Feb or when I buy the expansion but the lair and mount available in the "accessory pack" had me buying some SC over the weekend awaiting the SC Vamp pack! I just hope I can afford it with what I have. If it's more than 2k, I won't be buying it, that's for sure.</p><p>I wonder if this lair is the beginning of things to come? *wonders when we'll see special housing offered on the MP*</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm chomping at the bit here! I'll be getting the free one in Feb or when I buy the expansion but the lair and mount available in the "accessory pack" had me buying some SC over the weekend awaiting the SC Vamp pack! I just hope I can afford it with what I have. If it's more than 2k, I won't be buying it, that's for sure.</p><p>I wonder if this lair is the beginning of things to come? *wonders when we'll see special housing offered on the MP*</p></blockquote><p>Thats what I'd like to know also.  I think they starting to see just how much money they making on the games CS what we see available there now is just the beginning of much more to come.</p>

[shadowscale]

<p>the only reason they might have the accesroy pack is to entice the people getting the free vampires to pay cash anyway.</p><p>nothing is truly free really, or its always a watered down version. gone are the days where get everything included with suscription.</p><p>am guessing will be future premium races comeing out one day along with the houses they already said they are working on.</p>

[Amnerys]

<p>We've had it scheduled for weeks to announce more on this tomorrow. So I hate to say it, but you'll have to be antsy just a bit longer. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And keep in mind that by the time I get it posted tomorrow (due to waiting on art and all that goodness) it might be very late tomorrow. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> So please don't freak out if you haven't seen it by noon, or 4pm, or even 7pm (PST). We work gamer's hours, you know. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Snowdonia]

<p><cite>Amnerys wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We've had it scheduled for weeks to announce more on this tomorrow. So I hate to say it, but you'll have to be antsy just a bit longer. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And keep in mind that by the time I get it posted tomorrow (due to waiting on art and all that goodness) it might be very late tomorrow. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> So please don't freak out if you haven't seen it by noon, or 4pm, or even 7pm (PST). We work gamer's hours, you know. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>/groan! Do we get ANY new news today? lore snippet? ANYTHING?! /pout</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Amnerys wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We've had it scheduled for weeks to announce more on this tomorrow. So I hate to say it, but you'll have to be antsy just a bit longer. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And keep in mind that by the time I get it posted tomorrow (due to waiting on art and all that goodness) it might be very late tomorrow. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> So please don't freak out if you haven't seen it by noon, or 4pm, or even 7pm (PST). We work gamer's hours, you know. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>/groan! Do we get ANY new news today? lore snippet? ANYTHING?! /pout</p></blockquote><p>I guess not, but at least we finally got someone here to respond, even tho it wasn't much of a response lol.</p><p>Tomorrow it is then I guess!</p>

[Zaldor]

<p>Vampire Lair:  Norrathian Hot Topic</p><p>You heard it here first.</p>

[Wintersolstice]

<p>My character, Sortiarius, was the first toon on test to buy the vampire lair with station cash on 12/20 for $15.</p><p>I found the freeblood estate contract in my inventory, examined it, it disappeared, then got a message saying i could now access my lair.  3 of us spent some good time and sleuthing trying to find it, to no avail.  Where the heck is it? </p><p>From the face of it, it seems Sony made something buyable on Test without actually putting it in the game.  Trust me, we looked everywhere - the McE post is still the McE post, the sky skiff is still the sky skiff, and we went everywhere through south qeynos looking for the lair, nothing. </p><p>Money down the drain.</p>

[Snowdonia]

Did you guys try Somborn? Maybe even Maj'Dul? And it's not down the drain yet. Just because the zone in asset isn't in yet, doesn't mean it never will be. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Gozer]

<p>Trollora wants to know how do you go to the test server?</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p><cite>Trollora@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Trollora wants to know how do you go to the test server?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: orange;">How to login to Test Server?</span> "1. Using Windows Explorer, navigate to the TestServer folder in your EverQuest II directory. Create a shortcut on your desktop for the TestEQ2.exe file, which is the launchpad used to connect to the Test server. You may rename the shortcut if you wish, but don't double-click it yet. If you do, you will end up downloading the entire Test client, which would be a long and unnecessary process. 2. Highlight all the files and folders in the EverQuest II root directory EXCEPT the following: the cache folder, the logincache folder, the TestServer folder, and the eq2_default.ini file. (You can use Control-A to highlight all the files and folders, then hold down the Control key and left-click on those folders and files to de-select them.) Right-click and drag the selected folders to the TestServer folder. Select the option to COPY the files and folders, NOT move them. 3. When the copy is complete, double-click the desktop shortcut you made in Step 1. This will run the Test server launchpad and update the client to be able to connect to the Test server." ~ courtesy of Amerant</p>

[Gozer]

<p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Trollora@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Trollora wants to know how do you go to the test server?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: orange;">How to login to Test Server?</span> "1. Using Windows Explorer, navigate to the TestServer folder in your EverQuest II directory. Create a shortcut on your desktop for the TestEQ2.exe file, which is the launchpad used to connect to the Test server. You may rename the shortcut if you wish, but don't double-click it yet. If you do, you will end up downloading the entire Test client, which would be a long and unnecessary process. 2. Highlight all the files and folders in the EverQuest II root directory EXCEPT the following: the cache folder, the logincache folder, the TestServer folder, and the eq2_default.ini file. (You can use Control-A to highlight all the files and folders, then hold down the Control key and left-click on those folders and files to de-select them.) Right-click and drag the selected folders to the TestServer folder. Select the option to COPY the files and folders, NOT move them. 3. When the copy is complete, double-click the desktop shortcut you made in Step 1. This will run the Test server launchpad and update the client to be able to connect to the Test server." ~ courtesy of Amerant</p></blockquote><p>Trollora thanks you much <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Jaremai]

<p><cite>Wintersolstice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My character, Sortiarius, was the first toon on test to buy the vampire lair with station cash on 12/20 for $15.</p></blockquote><p>I guess it's just because my coffee hasn't penetrated my blood/brain barrier yet but... spending money on a test server?  There's something seriously wrong on a few levels there.  Test server Marketplace should be free, else it's not much of a Test server.</p><p>The rest of us pay to test things on the regular servers.  o.O</p>

[Gozer]

<p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wintersolstice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My character, Sortiarius, was the first toon on test to buy the vampire lair with station cash on 12/20 for $15.</p></blockquote><p>I guess it's just because my coffee hasn't penetrated my blood/brain barrier yet but... spending money on a test server?  There's something seriously wrong on a few levels there.  Test server Marketplace should be free, else it's not much of a Test server.</p><p>The rest of us pay to test things on the regular servers.  o.O</p></blockquote><p>I see your point and agree with you. But thats really up to the player if they want to buy it or not. The people complaining about all this vampire stuff, its really quite simple and It's been stated countless times on these forums by developers that people who don't want to purchase this stuff on the market place can wait and have it given to them through rewards. It's really a simple concept really and I don't see why people are complaining. SOE like every other company out there (Including Blizzard) makes games for money and not to put smiles on peoples faces. They are in the buisness of making money, bottom line and if there is a way for them to make money they will do it. Believe me, although I see your point, it's a little rediculas. But whatever, if people want to waste their money like that. Then go ahead. Who cares. I got better things too do with my time then worry if some guy wanting to rack up 200$ on his credit card because he couldnt wait for a few months till it was given through rewards for free.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>Once games oriiginally designed for F2P started making money hand over fist over games who were P2P these companies started really taking notice.  I've played some of these games, and frankly I liked the P2P model better.  I spent less here than I did in games like Perfect World for example.  Which is one reason why I'm back playing this.  I just hope SOE don't make the CS here contain items that will make or break our gameplay here.  Appearance items, and Fluff great I'm all for it.  But if/when they start selling gems to install on our armor/gear that will make us ubber.  Or things like that, then it will ruin the game.</p><p>If they are making the Vampire Lair an item for the CS I'm fine with that.  Please don't start putting in items to affect gameplay, at least listen to us players on that issue if nothing else.</p>

[Wintersolstice]

<p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Did you guys try Somborn? Maybe even Maj'Dul? And it's not down the drain yet. Just because the zone in asset isn't in yet, doesn't mean it never will be. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><p>Instructions on the contract specifically stated that the lair is accessible via South Qeynos or South Freeport, and we had a team of people scouring both places for any door / new geometry / anything that would be clickable.</p>

[Kaeliara]

<p>I sure hope someone finds it soon!  Hopefully it'll be in there after the hotfix.  I can't wait for someone to post pics!!!</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p><cite>Kaeliara@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I sure hope someone finds it soon!  Hopefully it'll be in there after the hotfix.  I can't wait for someone to post pics!!!</p></blockquote><p>Pounds his fork and knife on the table...</p><p>We want pics!!!</p><p>We want pics!!!</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Keikoku]

<p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wintersolstice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My character, Sortiarius, was the first toon on test to buy the vampire lair with station cash on 12/20 for $15.</p></blockquote><p>I guess it's just because my coffee hasn't penetrated my blood/brain barrier yet but... spending money on a test server?  There's something seriously wrong on a few levels there.  Test server Marketplace should be free, else it's not much of a Test server.</p><p>The rest of us pay to test things on the regular servers.  o.O</p></blockquote><p>Well, since he didn't state Test Copy, I'm going to assume he's on regular Test, which, aside from it's ability to get updates faster for testing purposes, is for all intents and purposes just like a regular server.  People play on it as their only server.  The characters aren't wiped, and you're allowed to level instead of using the buffer guy that is only on Test Copy.  So, spending money and SC on Test is completely understandable.</p>

[Jovie]

<p>To those of you on test, for south qeynos try checking the iron grates in the viaduct. near the mage tower. Gotta be someplace cold dark and damp.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Wintersolstice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My character, Sortiarius, was the first toon on test to buy the vampire lair with station cash on 12/20 for $15.</p><p>I found the freeblood estate contract in my inventory, examined it, it disappeared, then got a message saying i could now access my lair.  3 of us spent some good time and sleuthing trying to find it, to no avail.  Where the heck is it? </p><p>From the face of it, it seems Sony made something buyable on Test without actually putting it in the game.  Trust me, we looked everywhere - the McE post is still the McE post, the sky skiff is still the sky skiff, and we went everywhere through south qeynos looking for the lair, nothing. </p><p>Money down the drain.</p></blockquote><p>Couldn't you try accessing it from a Guild Hall that has portal to housing?</p>

[Sanati]

<p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wintersolstice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My character, Sortiarius, was the first toon on test to buy the vampire lair with station cash on 12/20 for $15.</p></blockquote><p>I guess it's just because my coffee hasn't penetrated my blood/brain barrier yet but... spending money on a test server?  There's something seriously wrong on a few levels there.  Test server Marketplace should be free, else it's not much of a Test server.</p><p>The rest of us pay to test things on the regular servers.  o.O</p></blockquote><p>The test server here doesn't work like it does for other games. It's a real full server that's never wiped with a perisitant community. The only thing that makes it a test server is that it sees content and patches a little sooner than the normal servers, it also always has double exp. There's nothing fake or temporary about it though. I'd play there all the time if it had more people on it.</p>

[Snowdonia]

<p><cite>Wintersolstice wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Did you guys try Somborn? Maybe even Maj'Dul? And it's not down the drain yet. Just because the zone in asset isn't in yet, doesn't mean it never will be. <img src="../images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><p>Instructions on the contract specifically stated that the lair is accessible via South Qeynos or South Freeport, and we had a team of people scouring both places for any door / new geometry / anything that would be clickable.</p></blockquote><p>Well, dangit! Aw well. Could try what others have said, sewer grates and what not.</p><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Couldn't you try accessing it from a Guild Hall that has portal to housing?</p></blockquote><p>I believe the contract only allows you permission to "buy" the house (like you "buy" the inn room when you first start) but you don't actually own the house until you do so the portal to housing wouldn't work.</p>

[Brook]

<p>Did you try it while it was nightime?</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>Actually that would sort of suck if you couldn't go to your house unless it was night time, lol. </p><p>With that line of thought, then you couldn't play your new vampire during the games daytime hours either, lol.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p>So can anybody verify, going there looking for the house during the night, you can find it?</p>

[Aslita]

<p>It's behind the crag estate / skiff statues.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Aslita@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's behind the crag estate / skiff statues.</p></blockquote><p>And can't be toured on Test. /sigh</p>

[Jaremai]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And can't be toured on Test. /sigh</p></blockquote><p>Vampire Lair Tour Pass:  50 SC</p>

[HeartlessEden]

<p>I was able to tour this on the live servers, its similar in style to Mistmoore Castle / Mistmoore Crag Estate, but significantly smaller than the estate - probably equivalent size to the average 6-room, but doesn't feel all that 'open' due to the symmetrical layout. Balcony / outdoor area is the same as the MCE.</p><p>Not bad overall, but I'd have to remind myself what Halas housing looks like to see if I'd want to move =P</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Alystran@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was able to tour this on the live servers, its similar in style to Mistmoore Castle / Mistmoore Crag Estate, but significantly smaller than the estate - probably equivalent size to the average 6-room, but doesn't feel all that 'open' due to the symmetrical layout. Balcony / outdoor area is the same as the MCE.</p><p>Not bad overall, but I'd have to remind myself what Halas housing looks like to see if I'd want to move =P</p></blockquote><p>It's insultingly small given the price tag in my opinion.</p><p>I likely would've paid for one char to get the house if it was the NotD somborn mansion, but this? It's not even worth half the cost they're asking for.</p>

[Jaremai]

<p>Pics?</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pics?</p></blockquote><p>Took some, working on cropping and uploading then I'll post. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Gozer]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pics?</p></blockquote><p>Took some, working on cropping and uploading then I'll post. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>*droooollllllllssss* haha</p>

[DrkVsr]

<p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">It's small because it's supposed to be a <em>lair</em> not a mansion. Lairs are meant to be small cosy little hideouts, not so big you need a cranky old butler and an atomic power generator to run the thing</span></p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pics?</p></blockquote><p>Took some, working on cropping and uploading then I'll post. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Link to where I put the pics: <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/eq2_zone:Freeblood_Lair" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/eq2_zone:Freeblood_Lair</a></p>

[Jaremai]

<p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p>

[Mabelode]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Link to where I put the pics: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/eq2_zone:Freeblood_Lair" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/eq2_zone:Freeblood_Lair</a></p></blockquote><p>Thanks for posting the images.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p></blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">There are enough squares (ignoring the 2 diagonally cut corner squares and the 2 squares with the pillars) on each checker board to set up a full chess set</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #993300; font-family: Comic Sans MS;">It is <em>similar</em> to the Crag mansion, but apart from having the same entrance nook and the balcony (and maybe the same architech), they are hardly the same</span></p>

[Zannah]

<p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Maybe even Maj'Dul? </blockquote><p>I lol'd @ this - tho I suppose it would be an excellent hiding place for a vamp - sunniest place in all Norrath ;-P</p><p>As for what comes with the Subscribed Feburary Vamp unlock => <span style="color: #00ffff;">** Sparkle Pack **</span></p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p></blockquote><p>That you are not required to pay.</p><p>Not sure where the insult part comes into play...dont like it dont buy it.</p><p>People need to lighten up on a game.....with many different features that you are NOT REQUIRED to buy.</p><p>Enough with the slap in the face,ruined,insulting,christmas is cancelled attitudes imo.</p>

[heartstopper]

<p><cite>Bigron@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p></blockquote><p>That you are not required to pay.</p><p>Not sure where the insult part comes into play...dont like it dont buy it.</p><p>People need to lighten up on a game.....with many different features that you are NOT REQUIRED to buy.</p><p>Enough with the slap in the face,ruined,insulting,christmas is cancelled attitudes imo.</p></blockquote><p>omg!!!!! I couldn't agree more.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Bigron@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p></blockquote><p>That you are not required to pay.</p><p>Not sure where the insult part comes into play...dont like it dont buy it.</p><p>People need to lighten up on a game.....with many different features that you are NOT REQUIRED to buy.</p><p>Enough with the slap in the face,ruined,insulting,christmas is cancelled attitudes imo.</p></blockquote><p>I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that they are not required to pay it, and I fully intend not to. You must've missed my earlier post stating that I would've been more then willing to pay that amount for a Somborn mansion. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I use the Marketplace when there's something I like, unfortunately the lair didn't meet my personal expectations. Regardless, I'm entitled to state that I think they're insulting their shoppers with the price tag they have on it, just like you're entitled to snap at me for saying so. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p><em>(and I wonder what Christmas has to do with anything? hee hee </em><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><em>)</em></p>

[Filly67]

<p>Doesn't look too bad to me.  I will probably end up getting it.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><em>(and I wonder what Christmas has to do with anything? hee hee </em><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><em>)</em></p></blockquote><p>Cause everyone is crying about  there holidays are ruined by SC and xp bonuses on a weekday.....yadda yadda yadda can go on for a long while about entitlement of what people percieved is "owed" to them.</p><p>Just like the game is  ruined and that things like this are "insulting".......its a certain attitude these days.How is it insulting if your not even gonna buy it and are not required to .How the heck can you be insulted if it doesnt impact you at all.</p><p>Who is anyone to even state what something should cost?</p><p>The Price of the liar is the price of a movie these days....so its right in line with entertainment value.</p>

[Blakkmantis]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Alystran@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was able to tour this on the live servers, its similar in style to Mistmoore Castle / Mistmoore Crag Estate, but significantly smaller than the estate - probably equivalent size to the average 6-room, but doesn't feel all that 'open' due to the symmetrical layout. Balcony / outdoor area is the same as the MCE.</p><p>Not bad overall, but I'd have to remind myself what Halas housing looks like to see if I'd want to move =P</p></blockquote><p>It's insultingly small given the price tag in my opinion.</p><p>I likely would've paid for one char to get the house if it was the NotD somborn mansion, but this? It's not even worth half the cost they're asking for.</p></blockquote><p>I tend to agree with you on this.  I haven't been able to see it yet, but from the things I been hearing about it, I'm already a little disappointed.  Being as we are supposed to pay REAL cash for this, it should be much more special IMHO.  And not just some smallish version of a vet reward.</p>

[sorwen]

<cite>Bigron@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><em>(and I wonder what Christmas has to do with anything? hee hee </em><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><em>)</em></p></blockquote><p>Cause everyone is crying about  there holidays are ruined by SC and xp bonuses on a weekday.....yadda yadda yadda can go on for a long while about entitlement of what people percieved is "owed" to them.</p><p>Just like the game is  ruined and that things like this are "insulting".......its a certain attitude these days.How is it insulting if your not even gonna buy it and are not required to .How the heck can you be insulted if it doesnt impact you at all.</p><p>Who is anyone to even state what something should cost?</p><p>The Price of the liar is the price of a movie these days....so its right in line with entertainment value.</p></blockquote>It is insulting because of the price per value. It impacts them because if it was better they might be willing to buy it. Just because you don't feel that way doesn't make their opinion invalid. That said personally I think it is kind of ugly looking. However I feel that way about a lot of EQ2 so that isn't really saying much. Oh! And thanks for the pics.

[CorpseGoddess]

<p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p></blockquote><p>I have to second this.  I'm excited about vampires, excited for the cloud of bats, but I was REALLY hoping to get that house in Somborn.  If I had that house---man, I don't even know.  I've wanted it so badly from the very first moment I set foot in it.  These "lairs" and the vet mansion are too shiny, too new, too busy.  I just want rectangular and square walled areas with lots of different rooms, the hidden wall doorways, and a smaller version of the basement.  I'd even take it WITHOUT the basement.</p><p>SOE, make it happen in 2011!  It's my NotD batty dream house!</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p><cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p></blockquote><p>I have to second this.  I'm excited about vampires, excited for the cloud of bats, but I was REALLY hoping to get that house in Somborn.  If I had that house---man, I don't even know.  I've wanted it so badly from the very first moment I set foot in it.  These "lairs" and the vet mansion are too shiny, too new, too busy.  I just want rectangular and square walled areas with lots of different rooms, the hidden wall doorways, and a smaller version of the basement.  I'd even take it WITHOUT the basement.</p><p>SOE, make it happen in 2011!  It's my NotD batty dream house!</p></blockquote><p>The Haunted Mansion is awesome. Been wanting it since before they made it from Estate of Unrest.</p>

[Tatsou]

<p>I was surprised by the size of it. Didnt even realize it had a basement till a guildee told me but it. In a way I wish i could exchange it for the vet house. that thing is a monster. I finally got 95% of it done on my necro, and thats even with learning how to break out of the house. So now i have a beach side graveyard for him <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p><p>The haunted house is nice but without them adding a balconey it was bothering me on breaking out since i learned how. I like decorating when I just want to be left alone from playing and dont mind making comments here and there either in VC or chat. So I'm looking at this seeing how many candies i have left and might make a bunch of spiderwebs to help with newness feature of it.</p><p>And not sure of price i think its 1500 SC. When you compare the furniture on SC. In a way I think its worth it then. some of that furniture IMO is not worth the price no matter how nice or whatever they make it look.</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p><cite>Zannah wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Maybe even Maj'Dul? </blockquote><p>I lol'd @ this - tho I suppose it would be an excellent hiding place for a vamp - sunniest place in all Norrath ;-P</p><p>As for what comes with the Subscribed Feburary Vamp unlock => <span style="color: #00ffff;">** Sparkle Pack **</span></p></blockquote><p>Um, you already get sparkle with cloak of the harvester...  don't go paying extra for sparkle...</p>

[sorwen]

<p>I just went and looked at it. I think it is rather ugly. While I didn't expect some decrepit thing I wasn't expecting some poor mans attempt at a mansion either. 15 seems a lot to ask for it as small as it is and the fact they just reused assets. The other thing I've never understood is several of the houses don't take into account the furniture available. I mean I don't expect the EQ2 people to be interior decorators, but come on have some sense of aesthetics. You are artists for cripes sakes.</p><p>Edit: Oh, and doors.  Placeables or something, but give us some doors.</p>

[Tatsou]

<p>IDK, fits a vamp pretty well.  When I heard they where getting a lair, I was thinking of something smaller almost cave like tbh. In a sense I like it more then my vet houses probably cause of the complexity of it all and if you know how to break out you can use the beach also.</p>

[Snowdonia]

<p><cite>Zannah wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Maybe even Maj'Dul? </blockquote><p>I lol'd @ this - tho I suppose it would be an excellent hiding place for a vamp - sunniest place in all Norrath ;-P<span style="color: #00ffff;"></span></p></blockquote><p>Well, I figured, they're neutral, Maj is neutral. /shrug Plus, since the NotD started in Maj, and that was what brought about the "birth" of the Freebloods, why not? Ever been in the Court of Tears? It's Dorn keeps it pretty dark and dreary in there. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>House isn't worth 1500 SC. It was the only thing I was considering spending money on since they decided to milk every dollar out of us and not actually give us an "accessory pack" as they stated on their SC store page. SO! More saving of my SC for something more worthwhile.</p>

[Rijacki]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p></blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p></blockquote><p>Theme, yes, but the lair has a several unique features (the spiral stair case, the timbering in one room, no faded/torn wall paper, clean/new wall textures, etc) unlike the vet 7yr house which is definately just various zone art clipped together.</p><p>Worth 1500 SC? that's the decision of those who want to spend to get it, really. (Though I think the vamp race itself should either have come with it and the other Freeblood things or should have been drastically lower in price alone)</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pics?</p></blockquote><p>Took some, working on cropping and uploading then I'll post. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Link to where I put the pics: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/eq2_zone:Freeblood_Lair" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/eq2_zone:Freeblood_Lair</a></p></blockquote><p>In many ways, that house is better than the 7 yr vet house...  7 yr house is ridiculously huge.</p>

[Twilightreign]

<p><cite>Tatsou wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was surprised by the size of it. Didnt even realize it had a basement till a guildee told me but it. In a way I wish i could exchange it for the vet house. that thing is a monster. I finally got 95% of it done on my necro, and thats even with learning how to break out of the house. So now i have a beach side graveyard for him <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p><p>The haunted house is nice but without them adding a balconey it was bothering me on breaking out since i learned how. I like decorating when I just want to be left alone from playing and dont mind making comments here and there either in VC or chat. So I'm looking at this seeing how many candies i have left and might make a bunch of spiderwebs to help with newness feature of it.</p><p>And not sure of price i think its 1500 SC. When you compare the furniture on SC. In a way I think its worth it then. some of that furniture IMO is not worth the price no matter how nice or whatever they make it look.</p></blockquote><p>What do you mean"breaking out"? Do you mean that there's something we can do so that we can have a little land with a house? Sounds interesting</p>

[Pakhet]

<p>So, has anyone figured out if the expac reward is JUST the race, or do we get any of the cool toys? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Tatsou]

<p>yup, if you have a couple portal pads, theres a way to whats called "breaking out" of the house and explore around. now mind you anything that happens here SOE is not at fault. they dont mind us doing it just they have said in the homeshow they cant help if you encounter a bug. but its cool so your not limited to just the house.</p>

[Snowdonia]

<p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p></blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p></blockquote><p>Theme, yes, but the lair has a several unique features (the spiral stair case, the timbering in one room, <strong>no faded/torn wall paper, clean/new wall textures, etc)</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> unlike the vet 7yr house which is definately just various zone art clipped together.</span></p></blockquote><p><strong>To the bolded</strong>: I think you need to look at those pictures again. Every single room with the red wall paper is nasty, dirty at the bottom and there are worn holes and even whole swaths of material that is worn away to the stone.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">To the underlined</span>: Once more, look again. The basement is the basement room in MMC that leads to the zone in to CMM and the spiral stairs are the same as well, same balcony as the 7 year vet house, and I have no doubt I could run through CMM and find the exact same rooms in this house there. This house is no different to the 7yr vet house, it's just using different areas of zone art clipped together.</p>

[Rijacki]

<p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's bigger than I expected, really.  Not sure I'd call it insultingly small.</p><p>I just wish it were like the haunted mansion in Somborn, since this is where the lore seems to imply the race came from.. not something made by Mistmoore's architects.  Maybe the zone intern didn't read the lore.</p></blockquote><p>I call it insultingly small due to the price tag they have on it and the fact that they used the same theme as the 7 year vet reward.</p></blockquote><p>Theme, yes, but the lair has a several unique features (the spiral stair case, the timbering in one room, <strong>no faded/torn wall paper, clean/new wall textures, etc)</strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> unlike the vet 7yr house which is definately just various zone art clipped together.</span></p></blockquote><p><strong>To the bolded</strong>: I think you need to look at those pictures again. Every single room with the red wall paper is nasty, dirty at the bottom and there are worn holes and even whole swaths of material that is worn away to the stone.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">To the underlined</span>: Once more, look again. The basement is the basement room in MMC that leads to the zone in to CMM and the spiral stairs are the same as well, same balcony as the 7 year vet house, and I have no doubt I could run through CMM and find the exact same rooms in this house there. This house is no different to the 7yr vet house, it's just using different areas of zone art clipped together.</p></blockquote><p>I had forgotten about that staircase. Those beams in the room, I don't remember them. Though, I think I spent more time in the TSO version than the EoF version of the zone art.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>This all comes from MMC, one of my favorite zones.</p><p>I have not been able to find this on SC or an official posting that it is released. From what I see though it would seem the accessory pack is "sold separately" for 1500 SC?</p><p>What price did they put on the Vampire race to unlock it?</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This all comes from MMC, one of my favorite zones.</p><p>I have not been able to find this on SC or an official posting that it is released. From what I see though it would seem the accessory pack is "sold separately" for 1500 SC?</p><p>What price did they put on the Vampire race to unlock it?</p></blockquote><p>2000SC to unlock it early (or unlock if you don't qualify for the velious winter rewards).</p><p>It was supposed to be available today but still is no-show on the Marketplace. It is on the Test server though, under Character Packs > Freeblood.</p>

[vexrm]

<p><cite>Amnerys wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We've had it scheduled for weeks to announce more on this tomorrow. So I hate to say it, but you'll have to be antsy just a bit longer. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And keep in mind that by the time I get it posted tomorrow (due to waiting on art and all that goodness) it might be very late tomorrow. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> So please don't freak out if you haven't seen it by noon, or 4pm, or even 7pm (PST). We work gamer's hours, you know. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Did this ever get posted? Have I missed it? I don't know it might still be monday in gamer hours. (Lord knows I keep them too)</p>

[Pyrochick]

<p>honestly i would even pay 20 for the somborn house thats how awesome i think it is</p>

[Pree]

<p>I think it's pretty.  I wouldn't pay SC for it, but I'm not much into decorating.</p>

[yohann koldheart]

<p>imho a much beter lair to fit with the vamp lore  would be just like haven on the pvp server.</p><p>a big underground cave, with several rooms to decorate.  i bet haven would actualy have more room then the lair they have on the marketplace.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>From: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=4390#38008" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x...c_id=4390#38008</a></p><p><cite>Smokejumper wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You will see that the house is a really cool thing when a feature due in January rolls out. I can't unveil that exact feature at the moment, but I think it'll make you look at this house differently when it does.</p></blockquote>

[Stormflint]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>From: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=4390#38008" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x...c_id=4390#38008</a></p><p><cite>Smokejumper wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You will see that the house is a really cool thing when a feature due in January rolls out. I can't unveil that exact feature at the moment, but I think it'll make you look at this house differently when it does.</p></blockquote></blockquote><p>/boggle</p>