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Wowzers
11-30-2010, 09:26 PM
<p><span style="color: #ffffff;">I am trying to decide which I should equip between these 2 pieces:</span></p><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">Cloak of the Onayan Battle Mage</span></div><div></div><div><div><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">FABLED</span></strong></div><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">LORE</span></div><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">+4 str   +40 sta   +13 wis   +43 int+212 Health  +283 Power+883 vs elemental</span><span><span style="color: #ffffff;">9% Crit Chance+120 Ability ModifierUnchained II</span></span></div><table style="border-collapse: collapse;" ><tbody><tr><td><span style="color: #ffffff;">Slot</span></td><td colspan="2"><span style="color: #ffffff;">Cloak</span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: #ffffff;">Level</span></td><td><span style="color: #ffffff;">90</span></td><td></td></tr></tbody></table><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">Effects: </span></div><div><ul><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">When Equipped: [Unchained II] </span><ul><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">onCastHostileSpell this spell has a 10% chance to cast Unchained </span></li><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">Increase ability mod of caster by 200 </span></li><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">onHit this spell has a 10% chance to cast Unchained </span></li><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">Increase ability mod of caster by 200 </span></li><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">This spell can not be modified except by direct means</span></li></ul></li></ul></div><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">OR</span></p><div><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">Cloak of the Scholar Primarch</span></div><div></div><div><div><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">LEGENDARY</span></strong></div><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">HEIRLOOM   LORE-EQUIP</span></div><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">+4 str   +49 sta   +14 wis   +49 int+241 Health  +322 Power+651 vs noxious</span><span><span style="color: #ffffff;">+0.2 Ability Casting Speed8% Crit Chance+125 Ability ModifierMolten Carnage II</span></span></div><table style="border-collapse: collapse;" ><tbody><tr><td><span style="color: #ffffff;">Slot</span></td><td colspan="2"><span style="color: #ffffff;">Cloak</span></td></tr><tr><td><span style="color: #ffffff;">Level</span></td><td><span style="color: #ffffff;">90</span></td><td></td></tr></tbody></table><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">Effects: </span></div><div><ul><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">When Equipped: [Molten Carnage II] </span><ul><span><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">Increases the potency of all abilities by 2.0%. </span></li><li><span style="color: #ffffff;">Increases Ability Casting Speed of caster by 6.0%</span></li></span></ul></li></ul></div><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Keep in mind I am wearing the Cloak of the Scholar Primarch atm and I have not attuned the Onayan Battle Mage, therefore I could sell it for 100p +. I am also a fairly new player so that is a lot of plat for me. I could buy a couple of masters I need: Shattered Earth and Planar Shift with the money I would make (they are at Expert level now).</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">I am trying to maximize my dps. Therefore, what would be the best bet iyo?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Thanks in advance for any help <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></span></p></div></div></div>

Xalmat
11-30-2010, 09:37 PM
<p>Scholar Primarch hands down.</p>

Wowzers
11-30-2010, 10:24 PM
<p>Thanks Xalmat. I was leaning that way. I did some VERY, VERY rough math and assumed that the Scholar Primarch could increase my dps by 80 and the Battle Mage by 42 (this was looking at focus effects only as the other stats are similar).</p><p>My back of an envelope math:</p><p>Battle Mage</p><p>200 abi mod fires about 2x/min for 15 sec dur. = 30 sec/min buff or 50% of the time</p><p>The guessing part: get off 25 spells in 1 min x 50% = 12.5 spells x 200 abi mod = 2500 dpm or 42 dps</p><p>Scholar Primarch</p><p>2% pet potency</p><p>The guessing (a lot as I have never bothered to parse my pet. He could very well do a lot more. I think I read somewhere a pet is 50% of our dps and I can parse about 12-14k on training dummy): </p><p>I assumed he could do 4000dps x 2% = 80dps</p><p>My math is probably way off, haha, and I am sure there are many factors I left out. Feel free to critique away <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Banditman
12-01-2010, 12:12 PM
<p>No need to do the math.</p><p>If it doesn't have a pet effect, you don't equip it unless you have no choice.</p>

Xalmat
12-01-2010, 01:01 PM
<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No need to do the math.</p><p>If it doesn't have a pet effect, you don't equip it unless you have no choice.</p></blockquote><p>Pretty much 99% of the time, this will hold true...depending on the pet effect.</p>

Wowzers
12-01-2010, 09:47 PM
<p>Thanks for the advice. That's a principle I have always lived by, but I think I was thrown off by the Fabled vs. Legendary tags. However, I know from reading your posts that Fabled doesn't necessarily mean better <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

hellfire
12-02-2010, 02:55 PM
<p><cite>Wowzers wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> but I think I was thrown off by the Fabled vs. Legendary tags. However, I know from reading your posts that Fabled doesn't necessarily mean better <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Exactually  generally it does but not all the time.</p><p>Scholar definetly better.</p>

Xalmat
12-02-2010, 11:32 PM
<p>Just because an item is Fabled does not make it a good item.</p>