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Marnus

10-29-2010, 07:29 PM

I know I probably don't have a snowball's chance in Lavastorm of this happening, but is there any way that the next time we have a bonus exp weekend, we could get 2 weeks advance notice, so i can request the time off work? I work every weekend, holiday or not, and the only way i can get a weekend off is if i put in a written request 2 weeks prior lol. Just thought I would ask, and give it a shot<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Zedius

10-29-2010, 07:47 PM

I would like to see this as well, it would help in a lot of ways to a lot of people.

Levatino

10-30-2010, 09:34 AM

<cite>Marnus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know I probably don't have a snowball's chance in Lavastorm of this happening, but is there any way that the next time we have a bonus exp weekend, we could get 2 weeks advance notice, so i can request the time off work? I work every weekend, holiday or not, and the only way i can get a weekend off is if i put in a written request 2 weeks prior lol. Just thought I would ask, and give it a shot<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>+1, I also would like to see this. So I can plan accordingly

Zorastiz

10-30-2010, 10:13 AM

Plan RL around game?-1

Cloudrat

10-30-2010, 01:56 PM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote>Game ? What makes you think this is a game?

Kaboomerang

10-30-2010, 07:24 PM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote>I thought we all just sat around playing EQ all day on unemployment? RL is the game and the game is RL.

Alvane

10-30-2010, 09:19 PM

<cite>Marnus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know I probably don't have a snowball's chance in Lavastorm of this happening, but is there any way that the next time we have a bonus exp weekend, we could get 2 weeks advance notice, so i can request the time off work? I work every weekend, holiday or not, and the only way i can get a weekend off is if i put in a written request 2 weeks prior lol. Just thought I would ask, and give it a shot<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>You really didn't miss much - the bonus xp was very very buggy - many places, it didn't work at all.

Banerm

10-30-2010, 10:50 PM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> Obvious troll is... well obvious.Obviously to most people it would make sense to announce any events happening in an MMO before in a timely manner before they take place. God forbid finding out things in advance for once.

Zorastiz

10-31-2010, 08:04 AM

<cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> Obvious troll is... well obvious.Obviously to most people it would make sense to announce any events happening in an MMO before in a timely manner before they take place. God forbid finding out things in advance for once.</blockquote>No I was being serious who plans their life around this? I play when time permits and if god for bid I miss a some special weekend in game then so be it.And let me get this straight, I disagree with a topic, make a post and I'm trolling? Apparently haven't looked around much lately on here have you?Please report my post as trolling to the mods if that's what you believe it is, thanks.

BMonkeeus

10-31-2010, 09:48 AM

HuH?

PlaneCrazy

10-31-2010, 12:06 PM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /> Obvious troll is... well obvious.Obviously to most people it would make sense to announce any events happening in an MMO before in a timely manner before they take place. God forbid finding out things in advance for once.</blockquote>No I was being serious who plans their life around this? I play when time permits and if god for bid I miss a some special weekend in game then so be it.And let me get this straight, I disagree with a topic, make a post and I'm trolling? Apparently haven't looked around much lately on here have you?Please report my post as trolling to the mods if that's what you believe it is, thanks.</blockquote>But it must be nice to be able to judge other people based on your own ideals, right?Who are you to say how important this game is to someone else? Really. Is it any different then a group of people at work booking a weekend off to play a game of Softball? Or your dad calling in sick to go fishing for the day? Who are you to judge what's more important to other people? While I haven't ever booked a day off work for this game, I have called in sick on the rare occassion when there was something nice happening in game and my brother also had the day off. We live over 400 miles apart so it's very nice to get a day to ourselves when we can put the headsets on and play the game while chatting.

The_Cheeseman

10-31-2010, 06:22 PM

*Clicks stopwatch*Wow, this perfectly reasonable request devolved into pointless bickering in record time! The forums here never fail to disappoint! In any case, I also volunteer my support for advance notice of... Well, any kind of special limited-time event, really. I am still very sad that I missed the one-day window to obtain the Stone of Gygax due to RL responsibilities. As a multi-decade D&D player, it's just so disappointing!

Grumble69

10-31-2010, 06:46 PM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>No I was being serious who plans their life around this? I play when time permits and if god for bid I miss a some special weekend in game then so be it.</blockquote>You're overblowing it a bit. There's nothing wrong with carving out time for something you enjoy. Whether it's a computer game, hiking in the woods, or watching football, it really doesn't matter.

Banerm

11-01-2010, 07:47 AM

To clear this up, I will apologize for the "troll" comment. However, due to many other topics and said replies I have seen more ill rebuttal from Warpig which is why this instance occurred. That being said I apologize for the slight of hand negativity brought forth to this otherwise perfectly fine request.Back to the topic, I see no reason for SOE not to make announcements in advance. I personally see my gaming experience as a hobby, therefore if a special event is happening I may set aside time for said hobby. For instance I enjoy fire arms, therefore I watch for event announcements for upcoming gun shows so I can set time aside for that hobby as well. I see no difference, a hobby is a hobby.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />

Kenazeer

11-01-2010, 09:24 AM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote>A hobby would be more appropriate. Say your hobby is woodworking, this is simply akin to asking Lowes to advertise a weekend special on hardwood lumber far enough in advance that you can make it to the store to stock up. I see nothing wrong with that.Believe it or not, "planning" ahead for leisure activities is one of the reccomended psychological strategies for alleviating stress. So yes, planning real life around a game is not only fine, but can be advantageous.

JoarAddam

11-01-2010, 10:39 AM

<cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Plan RL around game?-1</blockquote>Yeah, those midnight release parties are pure evil!

Alvane

11-01-2010, 11:04 AM

<cite>Kenazeer wrote:</cite><blockquote>Believe it or not, "planning" ahead for leisure activities is one of the reccomended psychological strategies for alleviating stress. So yes, planning real life around a game is not only fine, but can be advantageous.</blockquote>This is so true when planning for vacations, surgery or other things (a one sale at your favorite store or playing games) that will interrupt work schedules in real life. However, when interrupting work schedules for additional time off for what ever reason begins to become detrimental to your work, then that is another story.If you take enough time off work in order to play a game (your hobby), then the boss just may rise an eyebrow or two and you might find yourself out of work not because you are playing a game, but because you have taken more than the given number of "vacation" days.The best policy is moderation and balance. If you choose to spend vacation/sick/personal days away from work to play a game, that's your choice and there is nothing wrong with that.However, once you have taken those days and then become sick or needed surgery or anything else requiring your presence all necessitating additional "days off" from work, it certainly raises questions. Questions are not of what a person chose to do during those days. Questions center around a person that is prone to needing the given days plus extra. Then one wonders if that person is reliable or suitable for the work chosen.

Wasuna

11-01-2010, 11:37 AM

Since when is it reasonable at all to ask for more benefit from a gift? I thought we were suppose to enjoy the benefit we got from a unscheduled, unknown gift that we ARE NOT ENTITLED TO since it's..... A GIFT.The fact that SOE gets benefit out of it does not change tha fact that it's a FREE GIFT.I'd be the first to agree that it would be nice to have these things scheduled but it's rude and bad manners to ask for more after somebody gave you a FREE GIFT. Think how you'd feel if you gave a begger $5 and they told you the minimum contribution was actually $10 and demand you give another $5.I'm contunally amazed at the lack of manners from people in general and specifically the entitlement attitude of Americans (I"m American also so you drop that before you start.)

Banerm

11-01-2010, 12:34 PM

<cite>Wasuna wrote:</cite><blockquote>Since when is it reasonable at all to ask for more benefit from a gift? I thought we were suppose to enjoy the benefit we got from a unscheduled, unknown gift that we ARE NOT ENTITLED TO since it's..... A GIFT.The fact that SOE gets benefit out of it does not change tha fact that it's a FREE GIFT.I'd be the first to agree that it would be nice to have these things scheduled but it's rude and bad manners to ask for more after somebody gave you a FREE GIFT. Think how you'd feel if you gave a begger $5 and they told you the minimum contribution was actually $10 and demand you give another $5.I'm contunally amazed at the lack of manners from people in general and specifically the entitlement attitude of Americans (I"m American also so you drop that before you start.)</blockquote>Are you speaking of welfare, the current health care reform or the game we PAY for? You seem to be taking some sort of political stance on announcements within an MMO, which we the players fund. I would debate bonus xp being a free gift considering it is typically a holiday driven event which occurs several times per year as nothing more than a good faith gesture from the EQ2 team. While appreciated it would be kind of them to announce it ahead of time.I would suggest decaf for a bit, you seem to be a little "high-strung".(I'm Southern so drop that before you start.) <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />

Wasuna

11-01-2010, 01:23 PM

Wow.. I think you need to read your response again. Your exactly what I mentioned when I said sence of entitlement in America. You pay for the game. That does not entitle you to holiday gifts and it sure doesn't mean the company that provides the exact service you PAY for owes you any Good faith gifts. You pay, they provide service... done.To many people EXPECT gifts and feel that since they pay a company that company OWES them something other than what they paid for. You play the game for your subscription fee. You are NOT entitled to gifts over and above that. If SOE gives a gift then it's a GIFT and you either take it and like it or you take it and throw it away when your away from the people that gave it to you.

JustAGnome

11-01-2010, 01:36 PM

This was laugh worthy. It might be a big assumption though to think they know far enough in advance to get all the paperwork signed and statements prepared before they actually let the Community folks do their job of communicating with the players.

Banerm

11-01-2010, 04:32 PM

<cite>Wasuna wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow.. I think you need to read your response again. Your exactly what I mentioned when I said sence of entitlement in America. You pay for the game. That does not entitle you to holiday gifts and it sure doesn't mean the company that provides the exact service you PAY for owes you any Good faith gifts. You pay, they provide service... done.To many people EXPECT gifts and feel that since they pay a company that company OWES them something other than what they paid for. You play the game for your subscription fee. You are NOT entitled to gifts over and above that. If SOE gives a gift then it's a GIFT and you either take it and like it or you take it and throw it away when your away from the people that gave it to you.</blockquote>A gift typically speaking is something you are able to keep, something tangible even if in a digital world. You seem to not understand the difference between incentive and gift. Bonus experience is nothing more than an incentive to play during said times, which in turn increases their revenue therefore it is not a gift. How does it increase their revenue you ask? Quite simple, for starters many people who have secondary inactive accounts will reactivate to take advantage of said incentive. Not to mention said incentive tends to inherently increase the amount of players on during the allotted time, therefore increasing sales from Station Cash. Oh did I mention that many times during the double XP weekends, they also have double Station Cash from game cards? Which by the way increases the sales of said cards in turn increasing the revenue.So in closing there is no entitlement other than taking advantage of the proposed incentive which does nothing more than to promote the game itself therefore helping SOE as well as the players. I suggest taking the time to actually use some sort of logic in your rebuttal.

Banerm

11-01-2010, 04:34 PM

<cite>JustAGnome wrote:</cite><blockquote>This was laugh worthy. It might be a big assumption though to think they know far enough in advance to get all the paperwork signed and statements prepared before they actually let the Community folks do their job of communicating with the players.</blockquote>Considering this is a strategic marketing tool I would assume they plan these well in advance, however SOE's marketing track record isn't the greatest especially in terms of exposure to the market.

Wasuna

11-01-2010, 06:17 PM

<cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote>A gift typically speaking is something you are able to keep, something tangible even if in a digital world. You seem to not understand the difference between incentive and gift. Bonus experience is nothing more than an incentive to play during said times, which in turn increases their revenue therefore it is not a gift. How does it increase their revenue you ask? Quite simple, for starters many people who have secondary inactive accounts will reactivate to take advantage of said incentive. Not to mention said incentive tends to inherently increase the amount of players on during the allotted time, therefore increasing sales from Station Cash. Oh did I mention that many times during the double XP weekends, they also have double Station Cash from game cards? Which by the way increases the sales of said cards in turn increasing the revenue.So in closing there is no entitlement other than taking advantage of the proposed incentive which does nothing more than to promote the game itself therefore helping SOE as well as the players. I suggest taking the time to actually use some sort of logic in your rebuttal.</blockquote>Anything provided to you, over and above what the contract requires is a GIFT, independant of the fact that the company benfits from it or not. You choose the word incentive since that now entitles you to some small amount of power in the situation. It's a GIFT.I agree that SOE benefits from a bonus weeked in that is stimulates people in various ways to keep playing. Good for SOE. Sounds like a fantastic marketing plan. It's still a GIFT. They were in no way obligated by the contract to provide this service. Calling it incentive, apples, purple, or whatever else you want to call it does not change the fact that you have no control over it being given and therefore it's a GIFT.

NightGod473

11-02-2010, 02:52 AM

<cite>Wasuna wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anything provided to you, over and above what the contract requires is a GIFT, independant of the fact that the company benfits from it or not. You choose the word incentive since that now entitles you to some small amount of power in the situation. It's a GIFT.I agree that SOE benefits from a bonus weeked in that is stimulates people in various ways to keep playing. Good for SOE. Sounds like a fantastic marketing plan. It's still a GIFT. They were in no way obligated by the contract to provide this service. Calling it incentive, apples, purple, or whatever else you want to call it does not change the fact that you have no control over it being given and therefore it's a GIFT.</blockquote>Where is the OP saying they are obligated to provide the gift? All he's asking is if he can have a little more advanced notice the next time they DO decide (assuming that day comes) so that he has the chance to take advantage of it. I see no demands, no sense on entitlement, just someone asking for a chance to make arrangements in their schedule.

DrkVsr

11-02-2010, 03:14 AM

OPie wasn't asking for a bigger bonus, or for the DExpWends to happen every 2 weeks, they were just asking for a little advance noticeWasuna: if someone gave you a giant ice scuplture as a gift in the middle of summer but didn't tell you until the day after (and it's now just a puddle of water) should you just be greatful because it was a gift that you didn't get to enjoy or ask politely to be told in time so you could enjoy it?

Banerm

11-02-2010, 07:51 AM

Anyone want to be a bookie so we can place bets on the times it will be this month? Maybe give us some odds? Here I'll start.Thursday, November 24th 2010 Though Monday, November 29th, 2010 Edit- Since my original post was not politically correct. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" />

Dramira

11-02-2010, 12:00 PM

Taking time off WORK to play a game?You must make a ridiculous amount of money or you're insane.Your job should always be more important than this game, even if its double exp weekend, lol.Maybe you need to get out a little more. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />I can see maybe not making plans with friends for one day that weekend but lose days of work? I cant wrap my mind around it.

PlaneCrazy

11-02-2010, 12:04 PM

<cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone want to be a bookie so we can place bets on the times it will be this month? Maybe give us some odds? Here I'll start. I feel the following will be announced on Monday November 22nd sometime between 9 a.m. and 2 p.m. PDT.<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="4" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> -= snip =-</td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote>Impersonating an employee of SOE is a very big No No on the forums here... even if it's just done in jest.

Banerm

11-02-2010, 12:42 PM

<cite>Dramira@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Taking time off WORK to play a game?You must make a ridiculous amount of money or you're insane.Your job should always be more important than this game, even if its double exp weekend, lol.Maybe you need to get out a little more. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />I can see maybe not making plans with friends for one day that weekend but lose days of work? I cant wrap my mind around it. </blockquote>When did I mention taking off from work? I don't recall ever saying that. However I have known people who have taken vacation based around launch times for new games and expansions. In fact it's a common occurrence in the WoW community. Either way I don't see an issue. Judge people as you want, however it is their time not yours.

Banerm

11-02-2010, 12:49 PM

<cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Impersonating an employee of SOE is a very big No No on the forums here... even if it's just done in jest.</blockquote>I changed it to be politically correct, even though that's typically how bonus weekends are announced. You were correct that it was in fact in jest.

PlaneCrazy

11-02-2010, 02:04 PM

<cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Impersonating an employee of SOE is a very big No No on the forums here... even if it's just done in jest.</blockquote>I changed it to be politically correct, even though that's typically how bonus weekends are announced. You were correct that it was in fact in jest.</blockquote>I understand. It just looked too real <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I even searched through Smokejumper's posts because it looked so real, LOL. Sometimes they post these type of announcements in other threads that nobody really see's.AFAIK, the next "in-game" event is that Festival of Heroes. I beieve it starts on Nov 19. I'd like to see one more double XP weekend before the Xpac at least. Get another one of my alts up to 90. But with my luck, it will probably happen on a weekend I am working.

Marnus

11-02-2010, 04:31 PM

wow....I didn't expect this to be taken so seriously lol. First, to the people saying that rl should come first, rl has always come first, which is why i am only lvl 76, don't raid, and always miss out on these bonus weekends lol. Second, i work two jobs, and i have vacation time, sick days, and ph's-most of which i never use and end up taking as a kind of bonus at the end of the year anyway. I don't seriously expect soe to grant my request, but if they did, it would be nice so that i could use some of the time off i have coming to me, to enjoy my hobby. Now if i was demanding MORE bonus exp weekends, i could see where the entitlement remarks are coming from-but i'm not, I'm just asking for a more advance notice. If my silly request has gotten people so upset that they feel the need to post righteous indignation here, then I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who needs to "get out more" lol.

DrkVsr

11-03-2010, 03:21 AM

<cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Impersonating an employee of SOE is a very big No No on the forums here... even if it's just done in jest.</blockquote>I changed it to be politically correct, even though that's typically how bonus weekends are announced. You were correct that it was in fact in jest.</blockquote>I understand. It just looked too real <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />I even searched through Smokejumper's posts because it looked so real, LOL. Sometimes they post these type of announcements in other threads that nobody really see's.AFAIK, the next "in-game" event is that Festival of Heroes. I beieve it starts on Nov 19. I'd like to see one more double XP weekend before the Xpac at least. Get another one of my alts up to 90. But with my luck, it will probably happen on a weekend I am working.</blockquote>Isn't that just after the Merge? SOE will be too busy dealing with problems their loyal players will encounter to do anything good, besides, ah thought the next event is Frostfell

Banerm

11-03-2010, 03:43 AM

<cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Isn't that just after the Merge? SOE will be too busy dealing with problems their loyal players will encounter to do anything good, besides, ah thought the next event is Frostfell</blockquote>What better way to show a good faith gesture and to spawn new community involvement than to open up Bonus xp especially to the merged servers!Not to derail the topic by any-means, but I find the timing of the mergers to be in poor judgment. With November and December being two months filled with holidays, people taking vacation, school breaks and the like having any large amount of downtime and/or server issues will force the hand of the player-base. Not to mention possible lack of support, be it from limited staffing or complete downtime for those resources.

PlaneCrazy

11-03-2010, 10:51 AM

<cite>Banerm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Isn't that just after the Merge? SOE will be too busy dealing with problems their loyal players will encounter to do anything good, besides, ah thought the next event is Frostfell</blockquote>What better way to show a good faith gesture and to spawn new community involvement than to open up Bonus xp especially to the merged servers!Not to derail the topic by any-means, but I find the timing of the mergers to be in poor judgment. With November and December being two months filled with holidays, people taking vacation, school breaks and the like having any large amount of downtime and/or server issues will force the hand of the player-base. Not to mention possible lack of support, be it from limited staffing or complete downtime for those resources.</blockquote>I think their hands are kinda tied over the timing. AFAIK, they are busting their butts right now finishing the Velious Xpac off and I imagine that they wanted the new servers up and stable before they release that. Otherwise, the population numbers would be all screwy for the first several months after the Xpac, since most new Xpacs cause a rush of older accounts being reactivated.I don't think the mergers will be to painful, TBH. It's mainly database scripts and stuff they ahve to do and they have experience at it already. I am actually looking forward to the new blood coming on to our server.DrkVsr, Here is the sticky post in the Testing Forums about the Festival of Heroes. I wasn't playing the game the last time this festival was up so I don't know much about it, but it looks like it's going live Nov 19th.<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Heroes' Festival has been activated on Test and Test Copy!The Heroes' Festival has begun! A call has gone out to all Norrathian adventurers to commemorate the six years of questing, raiding, tradeskilling, house decorating and socializing. Celebrators, happy to share in the festivities, can be found in North and South Qeynos or West and North Freeport.You may spot some odd things, due to the overlap of both the Nights of the Dead and Heros' Festival running at the same time, right now. But keep in mind that this will not be the case when it goes live. Currently, the event is scheduled to run on live servers, 11/19/10 through 11/30/10.If you have any feedback or bugs, please post it in this thread so that we will be sure to see it. Thank you!~Kaitheel</blockquote>

zidar

11-03-2010, 12:17 PM

I have been reading this thread and keep wondering why people are so worried about how other people spend their time. If I want to take off work to relax and take a "Health & Welfare" day to play the game that is my choice and not anyone elses. I understand that if I do that too much I could have issues with employment but I have the time and I can use it as I want. And I do weigh it against the possibility of what could happen. If people are taking time off without regard for their employer and the employer takes action. That is for them to deal with, maybe it will make them a little smarter in the future. Now back on topic: I would like a little more notice before an XP weekend happens so I can plan on spending more time playing instead of doing something I really don't want to be doing.

Alvane

11-03-2010, 01:41 PM

<cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote>AFAIK, the next "in-game" event is that Festival of Heroes. I beieve it starts on Nov 19. </blockquote>The name was changed to <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=488203�" target="_blank">"Heroes' Festival"</a> and was activated on test. It is scheduled to run 11-19-10 through 11-30-10.

NardacMM

11-03-2010, 03:50 PM

This thread has gone in such a ridiculous direction. Why criticize people for doing what they want on their vacation. Most people that work hard end up with lots of banked vacation that's difficult to use up. And not everybody can afford to go on a cruise or trip with it. Why not take a day off here or there to do what they enjoy.Right now, I know lots of people who've taken a week or two off work for deer-hunting season. They don't need the meat to survive. They enjoy doing it.. Is that anymore strange?Advance notice is a great idea. It can only be positive for SOE - it builds interest and excitement. I would assume as well that Thanksgiving is the next one. They typically do them around holidays although not every holiday.

Gilasil

11-03-2010, 04:05 PM

A very reasonable request.Fact is, for people like me who are becoming increasingly inactive, sending out an e-mail would be a good idea too -- it just might be enough to get me to log on.As for thie "Planning RL around a game?" idiocy well that's what it is. While I make it a policy to never take a sick day to play a game I DO have vacation days. What do you think vacation days are for? For some people, spending a vacation day playing their favorite game is MUCH nicer and rejeuvenating then spending it visiting the in-laws or some such.

PlaneCrazy

11-03-2010, 06:12 PM

I HAVE gotten the odd email from SOE with advance notice of their promotions and I have gotten ones that showed up several days after an event started. Most of the time I get nothing.SOE's email list seems very unreliable... to put it mildly. Perhaps one way to address the concerns of the OP would be for SOE to revamp their email lists and make sure they are updated with the proper email addresses. I'd appreciate reading about these things in my daily email rather then having to find them on the forum here.As for using sick days for playing... while I have done it on the rare occasion.. it's always been when I would have probably called in sick anyhow. If I wasn't playing the game, I'd probably be just napping or reading, and all three are relaxing to me, so it's making good use of the time, as far as I am concerned. Also, in a union environment like where I work, you basically have to use your sick time. There's no benefit to not using it. We've tried to get concessions from the company to pay back our unused sick time as OT at the end of the year and all they will do is give a 16 hour bonus if you don't use ANY of your sick time. So we use our sick time, always.

NardacMM

11-04-2010, 01:09 PM

<cite>Ogren wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, in a union environment like where I work, ....</blockquote>Ogres form unions? Now that is one picket line I wouldn't want to cross.

Marnus

11-05-2010, 06:44 PM

haha-Oggok Local 989, I can see it now heh

Pacus

11-05-2010, 08:05 PM

What if your favorite department store didn't advertise that they were going to have a killer sale more than a day ahead of time? And, you are looking for Christmas gifts and what you were looking for wasn't on any advertised sale so you paid full retail for items that later were offered for half price at what used to be your favarite store? Then you complained to the manager and he said, "Hey, it's a gift! You missed the sale? Oh, so sorry, but it's a gift--you have no right to be upset or expecting to be compensated for your loss." Now what do you think? It's not like they PAID to shop there. But they would still be pretty [Removed for Content]. We pay to play here, so what's wrong with a little advanced update on XP weekends?

Artalis the Elder

11-05-2010, 08:26 PM

<cite>Dramira@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Taking time off WORK to play a game?You must make a ridiculous amount of money or you're insane.Your job should always be more important than this game, even if its double exp weekend, lol.Maybe you need to get out a little more. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />I can see maybe not making plans with friends for one day that weekend but lose days of work? I cant wrap my mind around it. </blockquote>Or maybe you need to be a little less judgemental. Nobody said they were calling in sick to play the game. Some people accrue time off that has to be used or it is lost, I believe this is the case with many salaried positions in the US if not elsewhere.I took a week off when SF came out. I guess that makes me a pitiable basement dweller by your standards, huh?

Gilasil

11-05-2010, 10:52 PM

<blockquote>Or maybe you need to be a little less judgemental. Nobody said they were calling in sick to play the game. Some people accrue time off that has to be used or it is lost, I believe this is the case with many salaried positions in the US if not elsewhere.I took a week off when SF came out. I guess that makes me a pitiable basement dweller by your standards, huh?</blockquote>You burned a week of vacation time to play EQ2? Wow, you must really like this game. While I wouldn't have done it it is absolutely your right to take a week of vacation time to play EQ2 if that's how you want to spend it. Accrued vacation time is yours to use as you see fit just like your salary. (wife permitting of course <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )And as already pointed out. Working people often find themselves in a use it or loose it situation, in which case even I might burn a week of vacation to play EQ2. Ok, maybe not EQ2 but something.Because letting vacation time evaporate without using it just wrong.

Deornwulf

11-06-2010, 12:07 PM

It's interesting how some have jumped all over the OP for wanting to time his days off with the double xp weekends, chiding the OP for letting a hobby take precedence over Real Life, yet nobody has commented on the fact that SOE always does these bonus times during holidays.I spend my holidays with family or traveling to be with family. Those who work in Retail or Food Service spend more time working during a holiday to meet the increased demands of those who actually have the time off. Constantly having these bonus times ONLY centered around holidays is leaving some players out.It would be nice to have at least one of the bonus times during a weekend when nothing important was happening.

Alvane

11-06-2010, 02:09 PM

<cite>Deornwulf wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's interesting how some have jumped all over the OP for wanting to time his days off with the double xp weekends, chiding the OP for letting a hobby take precedence over Real Life, yet nobody has commented on the fact that SOE always does these bonus times during holidays.I spend my holidays with family or traveling to be with family. Those who work in Retail or Food Service spend more time working during a holiday to meet the increased demands of those who actually have the time off. Constantly having these bonus times ONLY centered around holidays is leaving some players out.It would be nice to have at least one of the bonus times during a weekend when nothing important was happening.</blockquote>These are all the bonus XP days during 2010:January 15-19 Martin Luther King Jr Birthday USA (15th), Fiesta del Nino Perdido Peru (15th), John Chilembwe Day Malawi (15th), Prohibition Remembrance Day USA (16th), Religious Freedom Day USA (16th), Russian Winter Festival Russia (16th), St. Antony's Day Bulgaria (17th), Maintenance Day USA (18th), Revolution Day Tunisia (18th), Lima Foundation Week Peru (18th), Ephiphany Georgia & Ethiopia (19th)February 12-15 Abraham Lincoln Birthday USA (12th), Darwin Day International (12th), Youth Day Venezuela (12th), Union of Mayanmar/Burma (12th), Isra & Merag Sudan (12th), St. Valentine's Day International in 10 countries (14th), Wine-Grower's Day Bulgaria (14th), National Day Serbia (15th), National Flag Day of Canada (15th), Rose Monday Bolivia (15th), National Lamb Day New Zealand (15th), Parinirvana Buddhism Worldwide (15th)April 23-25 Anzac Day Australia & New Zealand & 4 other countries (25th) Argon Day Spain (23rd), Children's Day & National Sovereignty Turkey (23rd), Children's Festival Day Cyprus (23rd), Peppercorn Day Bermuda (23rd), St. George's Day Canada, Spain, UK & Christianity (23rd), El Dia del Castilla y Leon Spain (23rd), World Copyright Day International (23rd), Armenian Genocide Memorial Day (24th), National Concord Day Niger (24th), Armed Forces Day North Korea (25th), Children's Day Iceland (25th), Flag Day Faroe Islands (25th, Fundacion Espanola Peru (25th, Liberation Day Italy & Switzerland (25th), Liberty Day Portugal (25th), National Flag Day Swaziland (25th), Remembrance Day Papus New Guinea (25th), Senor de la Justicia Peru (25th), Sinai Liberation Day Egypt (25th, World Penguin Day International (25th)July 2-6 Canada Day (1st Canada) and Independence Day (4th USA) Flag Day Curacao (2nd), Salvation Army Founders Day USA (2nd), on the 3rd there are holidays in Argentina, Bahamas, Belarus, US Virgin Islands and Festival of Cerridwen Celticism, on the 4th there are holidays in Norway, Latvia, Haiti, Lesotho, Marshall Islands, Guam, Puerto Rico, Rwanda, Tonga and US Virgin Islands, on the 5th holidays are celebrated in Czech Republic, Venezuela, Algeria, Cape Verde Island, Rwanda, Slovakia and Isle of Man, and on the 6th holidaya are celebrated in Lithuania, Comoros, Vzech Republic, Malawi, and FinlandSeptember 3-7 Father's Day New Zealand (5th) and Labor Day USA & CANADA (6th) with additional 17 countries also celebrating holidays between the 3rd & the 7th.October 22-25 First time Guild XP Labour Day New Zealand (25th), National Mole Day USA (23rd) United Nations Day International celebration plus 12 additional countries have holidays during Norrath's bonus XP days of October.Yes, you are right - there is a <a href="http://www.earthcalendar.net/_php/lookup.php?mode=date&m=11&d=06&y=2010" target="_blank">holiday somewhere on earth</a> during the days of all bonus XP on Norrath. All I can say is, EQ2 has players from many different countries. So somewhere there is a holiday just about every day of the year.As for USA holdays - the ones in which your employer shuts down and you have a day off (assuming you live and work in the USA) - of all the bonus days so far this year, only 2 days of your day off conflicted with the SoE's bonus XP weekend schedule: Fourth of July & Labor Day.If out of the 6 bonus weekends, you just miss 2 because you take family vactions during those holidays, that's not bad at all. The other 4 weekends have no USA wide everyone takes off holidays that are during those days. That is, unless you also take Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King birthdays off, too.So, no, not all bonus weekends are during major USA holidays. Aren't you lucky! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />

BMonkeeus

11-06-2010, 06:36 PM

^^^ KYOA much?

Deornwulf

11-06-2010, 07:18 PM

<cite>Alvane@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Deornwulf wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's interesting how some have jumped all over the OP for wanting to time his days off with the double xp weekends, chiding the OP for letting a hobby take precedence over Real Life, yet nobody has commented on the fact that SOE always does these bonus times during holidays.I spend my holidays with family or traveling to be with family. Those who work in Retail or Food Service spend more time working during a holiday to meet the increased demands of those who actually have the time off. Constantly having these bonus times ONLY centered around holidays is leaving some players out.It would be nice to have at least one of the bonus times during a weekend when nothing important was happening.</blockquote>These are all the bonus XP days during 2010:January 15-19 Martin Luther King Jr Birthday USA (15th), Fiesta del Nino Perdido Peru (15th), John Chilembwe Day Malawi (15th), Prohibition Remembrance Day USA (16th), Religious Freedom Day USA (16th), Russian Winter Festival Russia (16th), St. Antony's Day Bulgaria (17th), Maintenance Day USA (18th), Revolution Day Tunisia (18th), Lima Foundation Week Peru (18th), Ephiphany Georgia & Ethiopia (19th)February 12-15 Abraham Lincoln Birthday USA (12th), Darwin Day International (12th), Youth Day Venezuela (12th), Union of Mayanmar/Burma (12th), Isra & Merag Sudan (12th), St. Valentine's Day International in 10 countries (14th), Wine-Grower's Day Bulgaria (14th), National Day Serbia (15th), National Flag Day of Canada (15th), Rose Monday Bolivia (15th), National Lamb Day New Zealand (15th), Parinirvana Buddhism Worldwide (15th)April 23-25 Anzac Day Australia & New Zealand & 4 other countries (25th) Argon Day Spain (23rd), Children's Day & National Sovereignty Turkey (23rd), Children's Festival Day Cyprus (23rd), Peppercorn Day Bermuda (23rd), St. George's Day Canada, Spain, UK & Christianity (23rd), El Dia del Castilla y Leon Spain (23rd), World Copyright Day International (23rd), Armenian Genocide Memorial Day (24th), National Concord Day Niger (24th), Armed Forces Day North Korea (25th), Children's Day Iceland (25th), Flag Day Faroe Islands (25th, Fundacion Espanola Peru (25th, Liberation Day Italy & Switzerland (25th), Liberty Day Portugal (25th), National Flag Day Swaziland (25th), Remembrance Day Papus New Guinea (25th), Senor de la Justicia Peru (25th), Sinai Liberation Day Egypt (25th, World Penguin Day International (25th)July 2-6 Canada Day (1st Canada) and Independence Day (4th USA) Flag Day Curacao (2nd), Salvation Army Founders Day USA (2nd), on the 3rd there are holidays in Argentina, Bahamas, Belarus, US Virgin Islands and Festival of Cerridwen Celticism, on the 4th there are holidays in Norway, Latvia, Haiti, Lesotho, Marshall Islands, Guam, Puerto Rico, Rwanda, Tonga and US Virgin Islands, on the 5th holidays are celebrated in Czech Republic, Venezuela, Algeria, Cape Verde Island, Rwanda, Slovakia and Isle of Man, and on the 6th holidaya are celebrated in Lithuania, Comoros, Vzech Republic, Malawi, and FinlandSeptember 3-7 Father's Day New Zealand (5th) and Labor Day USA & CANADA (6th) with additional 17 countries also celebrating holidays between the 3rd & the 7th.October 22-25 First time Guild XP Labour Day New Zealand (25th), National Mole Day USA (23rd) United Nations Day International celebration plus 12 additional countries have holidays during Norrath's bonus XP days of October.Yes, you are right - there is a <a href="http://www.earthcalendar.net/_php/lookup.php?mode=date&m=11&d=06&y=2010" target="_blank">holiday somewhere on earth</a> during the days of all bonus XP on Norrath. All I can say is, EQ2 has players from many different countries. So somewhere there is a holiday just about every day of the year.As for USA holdays - the ones in which your employer shuts down and you have a day off (assuming you live and work in the USA) - of all the bonus days so far this year, only 2 days of your day off conflicted with the SoE's bonus XP weekend schedule: Fourth of July & Labor Day.If out of the 6 bonus weekends, you just miss 2 because you take family vactions during those holidays, that's not bad at all. The other 4 weekends have no USA wide everyone takes off holidays that are during those days. That is, unless you also take Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King birthdays off, too.So, no, not all bonus weekends are during major USA holidays. Aren't you lucky! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I came back in on the 4th of July bonus weekend and the next bonus weekend after that was Labor Day. Perhaps I am mistaking the very few SWG bonus weekends (All during major US holidays) as being on the same schedule as the EQ2 Weekends. My apologies.However, will you raise an eyebrow if the next bonus weekend runs during the Thanksgiving Weekend?