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Ghostwise9

10-28-2010, 04:27 PM

I think I'm missing stuff, but obviously I don't know what. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /> Any help/comments/corrections/stuff ? Thanks. FOREWORD : DRAGON SEXVeeshan's brood (dragons, wurms and the like) come in different races and colour. Though it's not very clear to humanoids what are the differences (in particular, whether differences in colour and appearance are individual or racial), it plays a key role in the main taboo of dragonkind - two dragons of a different colour should never, ever mate. Such an incident happened once, during the earliest documented age of the world - the Age of Scale. The birth of a son to a couple of different colours was so cataclysmic that it became year zero in the draconic calendar, used by most elder races.The offspring was called Kerafyrm, but was more commonly called the abomination or the prismatic dragon ; it was said to be comparable in power to the primordial dragon, Veeshan. Insane and monstrously powerful even by the most ancient draconic standards, Kerafyrm was only stopped at the cost of dozens (if not hundreds) of dragon lives, through unknown means. Even then the dragons couldn't destroy him, and employed powerful spells to plunge him into a deep catalepsy, and bind him to a underground structure in Velious. Kerafyrm became known as The Sleeper.After this incident the two Great Laws of Veeshan's Brood were promulgated - no mating between dragons of different colour, and no killing of a dragon by another dragon. These laws were upheld by both dragon societies - the Claws of Veeshan and the Ring of Scale - that were created then.THE LADY VOXThe Lady Vox is one of the older dragons of Norrath, and has lived through many ages ; it is possible that she hatched from one of the eggs laid by Veeshan herself. She was present during the war against Kerafyrm.In the wake of this cataclysmic event, a society of dragons was created to uphold the Two Great Laws : the Claws of Veeshan. However some dragons, led by Jaled Dar, agreed with the Two Great Laws but disagreed with some of the other rules and social projects rolled into the foundation of the Claws. These malcontents formed their own society, the Ring of Scale. Many of these early Ring of Scale members would become noted names in the history of Norrath, particularly in their new home of Kunark - such as Trakanon or Phara Dar (Jaled Dar's daughter). One of their numbers was a priestess of Veeshan, the Lady Vox. Though her decision was not explained, it is possible that she felt that adding laws to the Two Great Laws was disrespectful toward Veeshan.LOVE ACTUALLY The defeat of Kerafyrm marked the beginning of the Elder Age, where some gods started creating races of humanoids (and occasionally non-humanoids) to populate Norrath. These elder races (including the dwarves, the giants, the elves, the kedges and some others) fought against the mighty dragons to establish a new equilibrium as to whom would control parts of Norrath. The fights of the Lady Vox and her Ring of Scale comrades against the races of the Elder Age are unchronicled. During the ensuing centuries, two Ring of Scale members fell prey to a rather rare sentiment among dragons - love. Nagafen was a red dragon, however, and Vox a white one. Their plan became to reject all laws of their people and deliberately conceive a new prismatic dragon to exterminate dragonkind. Apparently they assumed that this offspring wouldn't harm them, perhaps based on events they had witnessed during the coming of Kerafyrm.The renegade lovers's plan was discovered, though, and they were hunted down by their kind. The couple had a contingency plan and they fled to the continent of Antonica in selected hideouts ; Lady Vox found refuge in the frozen land of Everfrost whilst Lord Nagafen hid in the Lavastorm Mountains. The Ring of Scale succeeded in tracking them down before they could reunite, though. While the Second Law of Dragonkind meant that they couldn't be killed, Jaled Dar and the Ring of Scale used spells to imprison both renegades within their current location. They were now forever separated, and both established a fortress and small empire.Accounts vary as to whether Vox was pregnant by Nagafen, but it is currently believed by scholars that this was indeed the case - and that her eggs were frozen in time by Jaled Dar to they would never hatch, then hidden.Though it would take millennia, the Lord Nagafen and the Lady Vox eventually had their indirect revenge against the Ring of Scale. The mighty empire of the Iksar, the Empire of Sebilis, started experimenting with creatures merging draconic traits and Iksar traits, and at the instigation of the green dragon Trakanon the Ring of Scale went to war against the Empire of Sebilis. This brutal, interminable war ravaged the continent of Kunark, and Jaled Dar was killed in what would become the Field of Bones. A conspiracy led by Trakanon succeeded him, but Trakanon was then banished in turn by the Claws of Veeshan for having started an unsanctioned war. Whilst Vox and Nagafen were trapped and with little power, the Ring of Scale had been broken for a time. THE DRAKOTAAllegedly, before his death, Jaled Dar had created a small order of dragons to make sure that Nagafen, Vox and - perhaps - her unhatched brood would remain imprisoned. This order was supposedly called the Drakota - however in the Age of Destiny the word "drakota" is almost always used to design a race of lesser dragons allied with the Ring of Scale. While this is confusing, it is possible that the lesser dragons were inducted into the Ring of Scale specifically so they would watch over Vox and Nagafen's places of imprisonment.During the Age of Turmoil - a long, long time after the imprisonment of Vox and Nagafen - no special draconic guardians were visible in either Everfrost or Lavastorm, though it is possible that the small fire drakes in Lavastorm were related to the Drakotas in some nebulous way. One can assume the the drakotas deserted their watch after the war against Sebilis ; perhaps Vox and Nagafen plotted with what few resources they had to convince the drakotas to relax their watch, or had them forced away by their newer allies.For, despite being imprisoned under the earth, they were not without resources.PERMAFROSTThough trapped in a gigantic icy cavern, the powerful Lady Vox gradually enslaved part of the population of Everfrost ; thus was the fortress of Permafrost born. The Age of Monument, the Age of Blood and the Lost Age passed, and it is unclear at which point Permafrost became what it was during the Age of Turmoil.A larger, tougher ice goblin tribe from Eastern Everfrost (at the base of the mighty Everfrost Peaks mountain range) fell under the Lady Vox's sway at an unknown point. She retained a priest and a king to serves as her interface; near the end of the Age of Turmoil those were High Priest Zaharn and King Thex'Ka IV. This tribe was instrumental in building Permafrost and its traps. Vox also clashed with a tribe of ice giants, and eventually forced them into servitude. These giants (and their giant polar bear pets) became her toughest helpers, some of them being magically adepts.The rising power of Permafrost eventually clashed with the doughty Barbarians of Halas, and various expeditions (some with help from the city of Qeynos) were organised to take Lady Vox and her servants down. Though the Lady Vox was reported killed several times by survivors of such raids, she always turned up alive again - perhaps with the help of her clerical magic to survive what her foes thought was her death. THE DEATH OF VOXThe Lady Vox thus endured through the Age of Turmoil. She also lived through the whole of the Age of War, during which her foes in Halas mostly fell to the Horde of Inferno, and through the beginning of the Age of Cataclysm.During the Sundering, much of Velious was destroyed. This reportedly included the sacred grounds of the Claws of Veeshan, including Skyshrine, the enormous temple to Veeshan. The Claws were broken, and it would seem that most of them died in the aftershocks of the Sundering. The Ring of Scale, who had long since recovered from the war against the Empire of Sebilis and suffered far less severe losses than the Claws, decided to fill the vacuum and become the dominant draconic faction.The plan of the Ring of Scale rested on something called the Orbs of Omnipotence, which are thought by modern scholars to have been the unhatched eggs of Vox. The Ring of Scale rallied the Drakotas, who in the Age of Cataclysm were looking for support from the Ring, and sent them to Permafrost to take her frozen eggs from Vox.As they came, they discovered that Permafrost, though damaged, was still standing, and that Vox was scheming to leverage the physical damage to her prison to escape. Rejecting the second Great Law, the Ring of Scale and the Drakotas decided to kill Vox, take her eggs, and then go kill Nagafen for good measure.The raid by the Drakotas and the Ring against Permafrost did not go terribly well. The Lady Vox had apparently continued to build up her power base, and with the threat of Halas gone it would seem that Permafrost in the Age of Cataclysms dwarfed what it had been during the Age of Turmoil. The armies of Permafrost fought savagely against the dragons, and though the Ring and its Drakotas did manage to kill Vox, they suffered tremendous losses that broke any bid at world domination. The Ring never did storm Lavastorm Mountain, being too weakened to hope to take on Nagafen. Furthermore, the Lord Nagafen sent his most powerful servant to Permafrost as the assault started, and the servant rounded up Vox's cursed eggs and fled in time, leaving the Ring of Scale empty-handed. Nagafen further managed to collect the spirit of his beloved before she passed on, and as the Age of Cataclysms ended and the Age of Destiny begun, he started plotting to resurrect her.

Banditman

10-28-2010, 05:25 PM

<cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>. . . plays a key role in the main taboo of dragonkind - two dragons of a different colour should never, ever mate. </blockquote>I'm not sure that's right. I think it is that two dragons of OPPOSING ELEMENTS should never mate. Thus why Vox and Nagafen were forbidden. I could be wrong about that.

Xalmat

10-28-2010, 05:28 PM

Not even opposing elements, but different elements, I thought. IE a Poison dragon should never mate with an Ice dragon, even though they aren't opposing elements.

Banditman

10-28-2010, 05:37 PM

<cite>Jindrack wrote:</cite><blockquote>Amana wrote: <blockquote>Dragons can be classified by the type of element they are associated with. Currently there are 9 to count: Earth, Wind, Fire, water *ice*, Disease, Poison, Sky, Storm, and Prismatic. The Prismatic classification is the rare exception when two dragons of opposing elements mate. This mating is forbidden by dragon code and any dragon attempting to do so is punished severly for it. Kerafyrm is the only known Prismatic dragon in existance and his power is rumored to be on the demi-god level. *Lore* Supposedly only one (sky or storm dragon forget which) may exist within Norrath at a given time. If another one is concieved into existance the two must eventually meet and attempt to kill each other. It is inlaid into them at the time of birth and it is an unescapable fate. *End*</blockquote> I don't think the information about there being only one kind of sky or storm dragon is correct. This sounds like something new and not something that came from EQ2. We have two sky type dragons, Barakah and Siyamak and they seem to get along quite well.*Spoiler* Our lore is running off of the idea that there are four types of pure elemental dragons. Fire (red), Water/Ice (White), Air (Blue), and Earth (Black). Generally a dragon's breath is reflective of that element, but not necessarily, and breeding could vastly associated one breath type with a completely different scale color. All other dragon colors and types derive from the intermixing of these types, except for the law prohibiting the mating of dragons of directly opposite elements; Red-White, Blue-Black. Usually dragons of opposing pure elements clash because of their mentalities, like Talendor and Gorenair, but there are rare cases like Nagafen and Vox that can lead to trouble. Dragons that are not of pure element are not in danger of creating a prismatic because their elemental essence is not as concentrated. Dragons like the deceased Darathar (brown) and Venekor (yellow) would not be able to produce a Prismatic offspring with a mate of any color/element.</blockquote>Jindrak was (perhaps still is, I don't know) one of the devs. I'd take his explanation as pretty much canon at this point. I don't recall seeing any contradictory information.

betatester7

10-28-2010, 06:04 PM

<blockquote><cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>. . . plays a key role in the main taboo of dragonkind - two dragons of a different colour should never, ever mate. </blockquote>.</blockquote>As graphic designer "two dragons of a different colour should never, ever mate" sounds awful.

Cusashorn

10-28-2010, 08:47 PM

Vhalen once explained that only the directly polar opposite elements of Fire & Ice, and Earth & Sky, could not mate. Any other posibility was fair game.

kelvmor

10-28-2010, 09:56 PM

<cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>During the Sundering, much of Velious was destroyed. This reportedly included the sacred grounds of the Claws of Veeshan, including Skyshrine, the enormous temple to Veeshan. The Claws were broken, and it would seem that most of them died in the aftershocks of the Sundering. The Ring of Scale, who had long since recovered from the war against the Empire of Sebilis and suffered far less severe losses than the Claws, decided to fill the vacuum and become the dominant draconic faction.</blockquote>This is, apparently, no longer the case. I'm sure that if Thurgadin is still standing, the Temple, Skyshrine, and the Claws are fine, too.

Cronyn

10-28-2010, 10:44 PM

You left out her younger years where she went vegetarian for a while and dated that nice guy from Mythology class. It's too bad she dumped him to hang out with Nagafen. Chicks always dig the bad boys.

Cusashorn

10-28-2010, 11:46 PM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote>You left out her younger years where she went vegetarian for a while and dated that nice guy from Mythology class. It's too bad she dumped him to hang out with Nagafen. Chicks always dig the bad boys.</blockquote>A Vegan dragon? Are we sure she was exiled for trying to mate with Nagafen? A vegan dragon is a crime against nature in itself.

betatester7

10-29-2010, 02:41 AM

Ghostwise9

10-29-2010, 08:11 AM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote>You left out her younger years where she went vegetarian for a while and dated that nice guy from Mythology class. It's too bad she dumped him to hang out with Nagafen. Chicks always dig the bad boys.</blockquote>I mentioned to Ms. Vox that I was willing to consider leaving that part out. Let's just say that I'm now a rich man.

Ghostwise9

10-29-2010, 08:14 AM

<cite>kelvmor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote>During the Sundering, much of Velious was destroyed. This reportedly included the sacred grounds of the Claws of Veeshan, including Skyshrine, the enormous temple to Veeshan. The Claws were broken, and it would seem that most of them died in the aftershocks of the Sundering. The Ring of Scale, who had long since recovered from the war against the Empire of Sebilis and suffered far less severe losses than the Claws, decided to fill the vacuum and become the dominant draconic faction.</blockquote>This is, apparently, no longer the case. I'm sure that if Thurgadin is still standing, the Temple, Skyshrine, and the Claws are fine, too.</blockquote>Well, it's entirely possible for a very big bit of Luclin to have fallen right on Skyshrine but not on Thurg. I suppose we won't know until Velious is released.

Ghostwise9

10-29-2010, 08:16 AM

<cite>Banditman wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jindrack wrote:</cite><blockquote>Amana wrote: <blockquote>Dragons can be classified by the type of element they are associated with. Currently there are 9 to count: Earth, Wind, Fire, water *ice*, Disease, Poison, Sky, Storm, and Prismatic. The Prismatic classification is the rare exception when two dragons of opposing elements mate. This mating is forbidden by dragon code and any dragon attempting to do so is punished severly for it. Kerafyrm is the only known Prismatic dragon in existance and his power is rumored to be on the demi-god level. *Lore* Supposedly only one (sky or storm dragon forget which) may exist within Norrath at a given time. If another one is concieved into existance the two must eventually meet and attempt to kill each other. It is inlaid into them at the time of birth and it is an unescapable fate. *End*</blockquote> I don't think the information about there being only one kind of sky or storm dragon is correct. This sounds like something new and not something that came from EQ2. We have two sky type dragons, Barakah and Siyamak and they seem to get along quite well.*Spoiler* Our lore is running off of the idea that there are four types of pure elemental dragons. Fire (red), Water/Ice (White), Air (Blue), and Earth (Black). Generally a dragon's breath is reflective of that element, but not necessarily, and breeding could vastly associated one breath type with a completely different scale color. All other dragon colors and types derive from the intermixing of these types, except for the law prohibiting the mating of dragons of directly opposite elements; Red-White, Blue-Black. Usually dragons of opposing pure elements clash because of their mentalities, like Talendor and Gorenair, but there are rare cases like Nagafen and Vox that can lead to trouble. Dragons that are not of pure element are not in danger of creating a prismatic because their elemental essence is not as concentrated. Dragons like the deceased Darathar (brown) and Venekor (yellow) would not be able to produce a Prismatic offspring with a mate of any color/element.</blockquote>Jindrak was (perhaps still is, I don't know) one of the devs. I'd take his explanation as pretty much canon at this point. I don't recall seeing any contradictory information.</blockquote>This seems indeed to be the most commonly accepted version, according to this thread. And it does remove the unfortunate anti-miscegenation vibe the colour-based explanation has.

Meirril

11-03-2010, 01:46 AM

I think there is more wrong with the bio than there is correct.Veeshan's two laws: Two dragons of opposed elemental types are not to mate. Dragons are not to take the lives of other dragons. These two laws were layed down when Veeshan bestowed her brood to Norrath. Two dragons choose to ignore the first law and this Kerafyrm was born.We don't actually know which age Kerafyrm was born into. Most likely it was the age of blood, but it could of been during the age of scale, or the lost age. We do know that Kerafyrm was raised by a high priest of Veeshan and as the Claws of Veeshan decided he was growing too destructive (breaking the second law) they decided to take action against him. Kerafyrm for his part turned the legion of dragons under his command against the rest. While they were much smaller in number, the unit was made of their elite and caused much destruction before being defeated. Kerafyrm himself was placed in a magical slumber with 4 warders to maintain the spell.This points out that the dragons were at war with something. Also, the first non-dragon races started during the Age of Scale. Just that during the Age of Scale the dragons were the dominate race on Norrath which ended with the next age. Also Kerafyrm is mostly refered to as The Sleeper in most histories.Vox and Nagafen were both members of the Ring of Scale that did something unusual for dragon kind. They claim that they fell in love and attempted to mate. The Ring of Scale caught wind of this and seperated them before the deed could be done and imprisoned them in what is now refered to as Permafrost and Solusek's Eye. Until the Rending, neither of them could leave their prisons. With the Rending the seals on their prisons were broken and the two met and mated. The Ring of Scale thought this might occure and so they sent Drathinar with the Harness for controlling the Drakota to stop the mating. As Drakota are not dragons (they are a particularly vicious and powerful breed of drake), the laws do not prohibit them from slaying dragons. Vox was slain by the Drakota, but before Drathinar could take possession of the Prismatic Eggs the ice giant king hid them in his throne room.Nagafen was attacked as well, but managed to defeat the drakota sent to assassinate him. We as adventureres are manipulated by both Drathinar and Nagafen to find and bring the Prismatic Eggs first to Drathinar and then eventually to Nagafen who still possesses the eggs. The Harness was lost and assumedly the drakota are no longer controlled.At present Vox is assumed to be dead. However, it is possible that Nagafen was able to use the Essence Transference Device provided to him by the Shadowmen of the Obelisk of Blight to revive her in a new body as discussed in their records. It is even possible that Nagafen implanted Lady Vox's spirit into the body of one of their offspring, which would ensure that his prismatic offspring is indeed loyal to him. This is probably a best case senerio for Norrath, or a worst case depending on what you think Nagafen and Vox's long term goals were. Though, of all dragon kind Nagafen has probably had the best dealings with Norrathian races.

Iskandar

11-03-2010, 02:23 AM

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>At present Vox is assumed to be dead. However, it is possible that Nagafen was able to use the Essence Transference Device provided to him by the Shadowmen of the Obelisk of Blight to revive her in a new body as discussed in their records. It is even possible that Nagafen implanted Lady Vox's spirit into the body of one of their offspring, which would ensure that his prismatic offspring is indeed loyal to him. This is probably a best case senerio for Norrath, or a worst case depending on what you think Nagafen and Vox's long term goals were. Though, of all dragon kind Nagafen has probably had the best dealings with Norrathian races.</blockquote>hmmm.... probably totally off target, but this kinda made me think of young Vrewxx, who seems remarkably well informed for such a young dragon in an isolated area...

Morghus

11-03-2010, 02:27 AM

<cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>At present Vox is assumed to be dead. However, it is possible that Nagafen was able to use the Essence Transference Device provided to him by the Shadowmen of the Obelisk of Blight to revive her in a new body as discussed in their records. It is even possible that Nagafen implanted Lady Vox's spirit into the body of one of their offspring, which would ensure that his prismatic offspring is indeed loyal to him. This is probably a best case senerio for Norrath, or a worst case depending on what you think Nagafen and Vox's long term goals were. Though, of all dragon kind Nagafen has probably had the best dealings with Norrathian races.</blockquote>hmmm.... probably totally off target, but this kinda made me think of young Vrewxx, who seems remarkably well informed for such a young dragon in an isolated area...</blockquote>Vrewwx likely has little to do with them. His goals and allies are completely different. He is designated as a 'Loyalist of Eci' for what it's worth. He is either put back to sleep or killed by adventurers in Icy Keep Retribution.

Banditman

11-03-2010, 10:05 AM

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nagafen was attacked as well, but managed to defeat the drakota sent to assassinate him. We as adventureres are manipulated by both Drathinar Darathar and Nagafen to find and bring the Prismatic Eggs first to Drathinar Darathar and then eventually to Nagafen who still possesses the eggs. The Harness was lost and assumedly the drakota are no longer controlled.</blockquote>Close.It was only one egg that was lost. This egg was taken from the Throne of the Kromise King by Darathar after we defeated King Drayek. We then pursue Darathar back to the Isle of Refuge, which he has taken over and populated with drakota.We then fight (and presumeably kill) Darathar to retrieve the egg, but in the process of the fight the egg itself is destroyed. We take the shards of the egg back to Nagafen, a little worried about the fact that the egg was destroyed instead of retrieved, but Nagafen sort of laughs it off, basically saying that it wasn't important that the egg itself was destroyed, it was only important that Darathar not have it. Nagafen implies (might even come right out and say) that he has an entire clutch of prismatic eggs. We never actually see the eggs to my knowledge, and Nagafen hasn't always been the most reliable source of information. Nevertheless, it's an ominous thing to have hanging over the world.

Cusashorn

11-03-2010, 10:30 AM

^ Darathar is confirmed dead.

Ghostwise9

11-04-2010, 08:41 AM

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think there is more wrong with the bio than there is correct.</blockquote>Most everything that you deem in error is from the history section in the EQ2 pen-and-paper RPG, FWIW.

Ghostwise9

11-04-2010, 09:04 AM

<cite>Banditman wrote:</cite><blockquote> This egg was taken from the Throne of the Kromise King by Darathar after we defeated King Drayek. We then pursue Darathar back to the Isle of Refuge, which he has taken over and populated with drakota.</blockquote>Thanks, that gave me enough keywords to look up the relevant EQ2 quest -- I'm a very slow leveller and it's unlikely I'll do Fire & Ice before 2025 or so. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />The wikia is not heavy on lore, though - frex I have no idea why Vox's spirit is split into fragments, why Drakotas hold them, or why Vox's spirit want Drayek to die (aside from your allusions to eggs). Do we also know why her eggs remained unhatched since the Age of Scale ? That the Ring of Scale is responsible makes plenty of sense, but it's just an hypothesis of mine.

Cusashorn

11-04-2010, 09:40 AM

^ Part of it is because dragon eggs take many centuries to properly develop before hatching, and Vox laid most of those eggs right before she was killed.

Meirril

11-04-2010, 11:43 PM

<cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think there is more wrong with the bio than there is correct.</blockquote>Most everything that you deem in error is from the history section in the EQ2 pen-and-paper RPG, FWIW. </blockquote>So your not basing any of that on actual in-game sources but instead from a 2005 update to the widely inaccurate White Wolf pen-and-paper Everquest RPG supplement to the D20 system? Interesting.

Aceshot

11-05-2010, 04:26 PM

Nagafen made a deal with the void?What did he provide?

Ghostwise9

11-07-2010, 05:09 AM

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think there is more wrong with the bio than there is correct.</blockquote>Most everything that you deem in error is from the history section in the EQ2 pen-and-paper RPG, FWIW. </blockquote>So your not basing any of that on actual in-game sources but instead from a 2005 update to the widely inaccurate White Wolf pen-and-paper Everquest RPG supplement to the D20 system? Interesting.</blockquote>Err, are you only interested in pretending you're a tough guy, or can people actually discuss about the subject with you without laughing at the macho posturing ? I'd rather have the second choice.

Cusashorn

11-07-2010, 07:08 PM

Anything written in the Pen and Paper game isn't considered 100% canon to EQ2. There's the lore and info you learn from the P&P game, and then there's anything actually shown in the source game itself. If it's not shown in the game, then it's debatable if it's canon to what is shown in the game.

Meirril

11-08-2010, 09:36 PM

<cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ghostwise9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think there is more wrong with the bio than there is correct.</blockquote>Most everything that you deem in error is from the history section in the EQ2 pen-and-paper RPG, FWIW. </blockquote>So your not basing any of that on actual in-game sources but instead from a 2005 update to the widely inaccurate White Wolf pen-and-paper Everquest RPG supplement to the D20 system? Interesting.</blockquote>Err, are you only interested in pretending you're a tough guy, or can people actually discuss about the subject with you without laughing at the macho posturing ? I'd rather have the second choice.</blockquote>You'd get the same answer if you based everything you wrote on EQ1 lore. After 2003 anything introduced to EQ1 doesn't exist in EQ2. Anything written as a story, suppliment, map book, coffe table book, flyer, teaser, or not specifically written by SoE as "EQ2 material" isn't credible as EQ2 Lore.Now if you'd like to discuss this subject and get actual answers I'm fine with that. If you want to present a lot of inaccurate material and claim its the real deal because White Wolf says it is, I'm going to take exception to that.