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Aneova

10-17-2010, 09:18 AM

/wheezing voice/Old friends... consider me... Disapointed.../cough cough/ Sorry bout that had a frog ANYWAY ... New live prelude event and NO ONE is talkin about it in the lore forums... THIS HAS HUGE INFO that we've been begging for 1) about the chelsith stone, 2) about the shissar calender 3) about the runes on the chelsith stone. I'll be digging through my logs today to post what was found out through the dialogs. BTW there are Orthmir in SINKING SANDS!!Conversation 1 with The Duality You say, "Hail, Al'Kabor"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "Greetings, adventurer. I am pleased you have come. We, as Norrathians, are close to a crucial point in our history, and perhaps in fact, our existence. Only by understanding can we hope to avert what is to come."You say to Al'Kabor, "You speak of the Age's End prophecy, is that right?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor/a says to you, "Indeed. I believe, based on my studies, that the "prophecy", as it were, does very well point to events that will come to pass, and that may be unavoidable. But perhaps with proper study, we can discern what is to come and even a way to avert it."You say to Al'Kabor, "How is it that you know so much about the prophecy?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "During the Age of Turmoil, I came across information during my travels in Kunark about the stone found by the shissar in ages past. It was apparent to me that I had stumbled across something of significant importance when it was no less that the agents of Mayong Mistmoore himself that I found the information with."You say to Al'Kabor, "What happened then?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "At first, my interest was primarily driven by the idea of countering Mayong's plans, whatever they may be. As I looked into the information further, it was evident that what he had found was more than some nefarious plot or insidious scheme. I knew that I needed to learn all that I could about it."You say to Al'Kabor, "I see. What were you able to find out?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "Information was difficult to come by, as I wasn't certain what it was I was looking for. I found, though, that it was much like the proverbial iceberg - the more I learned, the more I discovered that there was to learn. Questions led to answers, which led to more questions. It was quite some time before I could even put a name to what I was researching."You say to Al'Kabor, "That sounds frustrating."Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "You might think so, but I found the feeling of discovery exhilarating. Every step forward I took in the research was a triumph, and every step back was a new challenge. I never felt like my endeavor was pointless. Although I had many more adventures I went on with my companions, I worked on my research until my own death."You say to Al'Kabor, "So for all of your research, what did you manage to find?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "Admittedly, in spite of all of the time I invested into this, I discovered very little, as there simply wasn't much information on the Age's End prophecy available to me. Mayong had hoarded the vast majority of it, and I was forced to decipher shreds of evidence hidden the tomes of Norrath's libraries. I did, however, make some interesting discoveries."You say to Al'Kabor, "What were those?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "I believe I have found the meaning of a couple of the symbols represented on the object known as the Chelsith Stone, but not necessarily their significance. I believe the orientation of the symbols on the stone to be an important piece of the puzzle, but until recently, I had little idea what the face of the stone looked like."You say to Al'Kabor, "You have seen it, then?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "No, I have not. But then, it's not necessary that I do. I've found that some notes have been made about the inscriptions on the stone, and I've been able to piece together my own picture of the face itself. This will help my research immensely. To be honest, I believe my role here will be to simply compile and piece together what has been discovered by others here, and see how they are all interconnected."You say to Al'Kabor, "You said you had deciphered some of the runes. Which ones were they?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "Well, to be brief, the one I found first was the rune of the Dal Crown, which I found in the notes I discovered on the agents of Mistmoore. I originally believed this to somehow represent Brell or the Underfoot, as it appeared to resemble the crown worn by the Duke of Below. However, this appeared no where in any information connected to Brell Serilis, and in fact, no where in the Underfoot which Dartain was imprisoned in."You say to Al'Kabor, "Interesting. What might it mean?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "I believe it more specifically points to someone who has a role to play one way or another in the Age's End prophecy - my long time companion, Firona Vie. It was for this reason I sought her out, and implored her to reveal herself."You say to Al'Kabor, "And so she did. But how do you know that her part in this prophecy isn't for ill?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "I don't, until I know more about the placement of the runes themselves. However, in order to discover that, I need to know the meaning of the runes. This is where you can be of service. I have a marker here with a rune symbol etched on it. I want you to search for information, and see if we can unlock the mysteries surrounding it."You say to Al'Kabor, "Very well. Where should I start searching for information?"Al'Kabor:Al'Kabor says to you, "Given that this symbol shows up in many erudite structures of the past, I might research their tomes on Norrath, in the libraries where they live. I studied in the libraries of Odus extensively, and was never able to find a satisfactory answer. Bring any information you find back to me, and I will try to piece the puzzle together. Good luck to you."You say to Al'Kabor, "And to you. Farewell."

Cyliena

10-17-2010, 10:07 AM

I was wondering if anyone wanted the dialogues for this. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I won't duplicate the hard work by Aneova above, here's links to the other two quest dialogues wiki-ized though:<a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/EQ2_Quest:In_Plain_Sight#Lore" target="_blank">In Plain Sight</a><a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/EQ2_Quest:Of_Things_to_Come#Lore" target="_blank">Of Things to Come</a>

Aneova

10-17-2010, 10:35 AM

bah! lol, well here's something they didn't post in their listings... This book is lying on its side, clearly undisturbed for a very long time. You lift it up, disturbing the dust that covers it, a small stone rune-engraved stone falls out. In the book, some of the pages crumble to dust when you touch them, but a couple of others remain intact. Reading through those, you find the following: ... it's apparent that her visions were of things to come - or at least she believed so. In searching through what I've discovered, it seems that she trusted few with the visions she had. She did, however, seem to verify something that the shissar themselves believed - that this rune had something to do with the destruction of Luclin. While it is never mentioned specifically by name... ... plenty of cross referencing to the shape of the rune. There can be little doubt about it - the twisting spiral rune is none other than the Rune of Sunder, which represents destruction of the moon, if the doomsday calendar and the dreams of the Queen are to be believed. I would like to next attempt to verify the apparent date of this... Thumbing through the books on the shelf, you notice that one in particular seems to have the very symbol you are looking for emblazoned on its cover. Many of the pages have fallen to pieces, but a couple of passages seem to catch your eye. ... is not as I had thought. I can feel my mind slipping away, but in the moments of clarity, I can see that I have been mistaken all along. This rune, which I once believed to be my passage to the Ethernere, is representative of something far greater. It seems to point to another event, although what that is eludes me, and I fear I may not have time to solve it's mystery... ... Void... there is blackness there. It is Void. How can Nothingness exist? It cannot, yet it does. My lost daughters, I cannot come for you. The Void is all that is here in this rune. It is not a path to the Ethernere, it shows me only blackness. The Void. This is the Rune of Oblivion... Blackness...OH and I believe the Keeper of secrets isn't refering to a Person as rather a being chosen by Prexus <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Lodizal

Cusashorn

10-17-2010, 12:29 PM

<cite>Aneova@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote>OH and I believe the Keeper of secrets isn't refering to a Person as rather a being chosen by Prexus <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Lodizal</blockquote>The Keeper of Secrets hasn't been updated since Fallen Dynasty was released in 2006. There could be absolutely no way that anyone, even Vhalen, would have the foresight to clue us ahead of an expansion pack happening 5 years later. It would be pointless for that too.

Aneova

10-18-2010, 08:36 AM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aneova@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote>OH and I believe the Keeper of secrets isn't refering to a Person as rather a being chosen by Prexus <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Lodizal</blockquote>The Keeper of Secrets hasn't been updated since Fallen Dynasty was released in 2006. There could be absolutely no way that anyone, even Vhalen, would have the foresight to clue us ahead of an expansion pack happening 5 years later. It would be pointless for that too.</blockquote>Why not? If you recall where part of the lore comes from, many of the the characters exist Pre EQ.

Cusashorn

10-18-2010, 09:31 AM

<cite>Aneova@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aneova@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote>OH and I believe the Keeper of secrets isn't refering to a Person as rather a being chosen by Prexus <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Lodizal</blockquote>The Keeper of Secrets hasn't been updated since Fallen Dynasty was released in 2006. There could be absolutely no way that anyone, even Vhalen, would have the foresight to clue us ahead of an expansion pack happening 5 years later. It would be pointless for that too.</blockquote>Why not? If you recall where part of the lore comes from, many of the the characters exist Pre EQ.</blockquote>Again, Vhalen wouldn't program an NPC to talk about an expansion 5 years later. There's a difference between writing them to exist before the game proper and after the game is released. Besides, all it's other cryptic messages up until Fallen Dynasty specifically referred to events and stuff that took place in EQ2 up to that point. His last update is about Zebuxoruk in the Village of Shin. Lodizal is hardly a new character either. He existed in Velious in EQlive, and he certainly can't "walk" as the keeper put it.

Wilin

10-19-2010, 12:34 PM

The quest text (above + linked) seems incomplete.I don't have the logs with me at the moment but I can get them tonight. But, we really should have the full logs posted here for the quest.

Wilin

10-19-2010, 01:03 PM

I was right, there was some missing info from the first quest. I've pieced together the full dialogue from all of the quests from zam.com------------------<h3>Duality Mutterings</h3>Al'Kabor says, "Argh, nothing here either. Everything points at Theer...yet he isn't mentioned directly anywhere, how does he tie in?"Dartain says, "Hm...this doesn't add up. There must be something I'm missing!"Al'Kabor says, "It is so close to all adding up...but...there's a missing piece somewhere. If I can decipher just a little more, it should all begin falling into place."<h3>Introduction</h3>You say, "Hail, Al'Kabor"Al'Kabor says to you, "Greetings, adventurer. I am pleased you have come. We, as Norrathians, are close to a crucial point in our history, and perhaps in fact, our existence. Only by understanding can we hope to avert what is to come."You say to Al'Kabor, "You speak of the Age's End prophecy, is that right?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Indeed. I believe, based on my studies, that the "prophecy", as it were, does very well point to events that will come to pass, and that may be unavoidable. But perhaps with proper study, we can discern what is to come and even a way to avert it.''"You say to Al'Kabor, "How is it that you know so much about the prophecy?"Al'Kabor says to you, "During the Age of Turmoil, I came across information during my travels in Kunark about the stone found by the shissar in ages past. It was apparent to me that I had stumbled across something of significant importance when it was no less that the agents of Mayong Mistmoore himself that I found the information with."You say to Al'Kabor, "What happened then?"Al'Kabor says to you, "At first, my interest was primarily driven by the idea of countering Mayong's plans, whatever they may be. As I looked into the information further, it was evident that what he had found was more than some nefarious plot or insidious scheme. I knew that I needed to learn all that I could about it."You say to Al'Kabor, "I see. What were you able to find out?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Information was difficult to come by, as I wasn't certain what it was I was looking for. I found, though, that it was much like the proverbial iceberg - the more I learned, the more I discovered that there was to learn. Questions led to answers, which led to more questions. It was quite some time before I could even put a name to what I was researching."You say to Al'Kabor, "That sounds frustrating."Al'Kabor says to you, "You might think so, but I found the feeling of discovery exhilarating. Every step forward I took in the research was a triumph, and every step back was a new challenge. I never felt like my endeavor was pointless. Although I had many more adventures I went on with my companions, I worked on my research until my own death."You say to Al'Kabor, "So for all of your research, what did you manage to find?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Admittedly, in spite of all of the time I invested into this, I discovered very little, as there simply wasn't much information on the Age's End prophecy available to me. Mayong had hoarded the vast majority of it, and I was forced to decipher shreds of evidence hidden the tomes of Norrath's libraries. I did, however, make some interesting discoveries."You say to Al'Kabor, "What were those?"Al'Kabor says to you, "I believe I have found the meaning of a couple of the symbols represented on the object known as the Chelsith Stone, but not necessarily their significance. I believe the orientation of the symbols on the stone to be an important piece of the puzzle, but until recently, I had little idea what the face of the stone looked like."You say to Al'Kabor, "You have seen it, then?"Al'Kabor says to you, "No, I have not. But then, it's not necessary that I do. I've found that some notes have been made about the inscriptions on the stone, and I've been able to piece together my own picture of the face itself. This will help my research immensely. To be honest, I believe my role here will be to simply compile and piece together what has been discovered by others here, and see how they are all interconnected."You say to Al'Kabor, "You said you had deciphered some of the runes. Which ones were they?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Well, to be brief, the one I found first was the rune of the Dal Crown, which I found in the notes I discovered on the agents of Mistmoore. I originally believed this to somehow represent Brell or the Underfoot, as it appeared to resemble the crown worn by the Duke of Below. However, this appeared no where in any information connected to Brell Serilis, and in fact, no where in the Underfoot which Dartain was imprisoned in."You say to Al'Kabor, "Interesting. What might it mean?"Al'Kabor says to you, "I believe it more specifically points to someone who has a role to play one way or another in the Age's End prophecy - my long time companion, Firona Vie. It was for this reason I sought her out, and implored her to reveal herself."You say to Al'Kabor, "And so she did. But how do you know that her part in this prophecy isn't for ill?"Al'Kabor says to you, "I don't, until I know more about the placement of the runes themselves. However, in order to discover that, I need to know the meaning of the runes. This is where you can be of service. I have a marker here with a rune symbol etched on it. I want you to search for information, and see if we can unlock the mysteries surrounding it."You say to Al'Kabor, "Very well. Where should I start searching for information?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Given that this symbol shows up in many erudite structures of the past, I might research their tomes on Norrath, in the libraries where they live. I studied in the libraries of Odus extensively, and was never able to find a satisfactory answer. Bring any information you find back to me, and I will try to piece the puzzle together. Good luck to you."You say to Al'Kabor, "And to you. Farewell."<h3>Meaning of the Sigil</h3>You say, "Hail, Al'Kabor"Al'Kabor says to you, "Ah, you have returned. Was your search successful?"You say to Al'Kabor, "I was. I have much to tell you."Al'Kabor says to you, "Excellent. What were you able to find?"You say to Al'Kabor, "Unfortunately, I found very little. I was able to discover some notes from Varsoon, who did a little study on the rune itself. It's known as the Rune of Severing. It has been known to show up with the followers of Cazic-Thule, and as you said, has been in erudite architecture as well. Varsoon believed there was much more to it, however."Al'Kabor says to you, "Of course there was, which is why he was researching it. Was this all he had?"You say to Al'Kabor, "The notes I have of Varsoon's was only a partial collection. If he found more, then he was careful to hide or destroy what he found. However, if it is indeed like the Dal Crown rune you deciphered before, could it also be a person? Could it mean someone from Odus? Perhaps even you?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Not impossible. I think it would be someone more likely to be intrinsically tied with the prophecy itself, however. Perhaps El Arad, or even Eurd himself. However, this is an important piece of the puzzle, so I'll continue to research with the information you've brought me."You say to Al'Kabor, "What more can I do to help?"Al'Kabor says to you, "There's two runes I would like you to look into now. These two, I have not been able to find much information on, but I think you might have more luck researching these here. Like before, I have a couple of markers for you to use. I have heard that one known as Lord Everling was looking into these two, and might have information we can use."You say to Al'Kabor, "Ah, I will need to visit Nektropos Castle. I'll return soon."<h3>The Two Runes</h3>Thumbing through the books on the shelf, you notice that one in particular seems to have the very symbol you are looking for emblazoned on its cover. Many of the pages have fallen to pieces, but a couple of passages seem to catch your eye.... is not as I had thought. I can feel my mind slipping away, but in the moments of clarity, I can see that I have been mistaken all along. This rune, which I once believed to be my passage to the Ethernere, is representative of something far greater. It seems to point to another event, although what that is eludes me, and I fear I may not have time to solve it's mystery...... Void... there is blackness there. It is Void. How can Nothingness exist? It cannot, yet it does. My lost daughters, I cannot come for you. The Void is all that is here in this rune. It is not a path to the Ethernere, it shows me only blackness. The Void. This is the Rune of Oblivion... Blackness...This book is lying on its side, clearly undisturbed for a very long time. You lift it up, disturbing the dust that covers it, a small stone rune-engraved stone falls out. In the book, some of the pages crumble to dust when you touch them, but a couple of others remain intact. Reading through those, you find the following:... it's apparent that her visions were of things to come - or at least she believed so. In searching through what I've discovered, it seems that she trusted few with the visions she had. She did, however, seem to verify something that the shissar themselves believed - that this rune had something to do with the destruction of Luclin. While it is never mentioned specifically by name...... plenty of cross referencing to the shape of the rune. There can be little doubt about it - the twisting spiral rune is none other than the Rune of Sunder, which represents destruction of the moon, if the doomsday calendar and the dreams of the Queen are to be believed. I would like to next attempt to verify the apparent date of this...You say, "Hail, Dartain"Dartain says to you, "I've been waiting for you to return. I trust you were able to gather more information for me?"You say to Dartain, "I was. I managed to find a secret chamber containing some interesting books."<h3>The Mysterious Sigil</h3>Dartain says to you, "Very well, I hope you were able to find what we were looking for."You say to Dartain, "I believe I have. I found a tome here that seems to describe the first rune as the Rune of Oblivion. It appeared to have something to do with the Void, and as I read, it occurred to me that it might actually represent Anashti Sul herself."Dartain says to you, "Really? And what brought you to that conclusion?"You say to Dartain, "It seemed that based on our research so far, each of the runes might actually represent a being. Given that she once held close ties with Rohen Theer, and the fact that she just returned from the Void recently, I believe that this rune might indicate that she is somehow tied to the prophecy."Dartain says to you, "Very astute. Your logic is sound, and could very well be exactly as you say. I will continue work on this rune based on your findings. What else did you discover?"You say to Dartain, "It seems that the second one is known as the Rune of Sundering. This one is a little more difficult to figure out who might be tied to it. It seems to point to an event rather than a being - the Shattering. Perhaps it's representative of whoever is responsible for the destruction of Luclin?"Dartain says to you, "Perhaps, but I think this might actually be a good clue to the nature of the rings of the prophecy. Hmm... if you don't mind, I'd like to see that tome. It will take me a little time to go through this and figure out what significance the runes carry, and how they might pertain to one another and ultimately, to the prophecy itself."You say to Dartain, "There was one more thing. Lord Everling had notes on another shape - one that he seemed to think might be quite significant, but that he had little information on. I am not sure what to make of it... perhaps it's worth looking into?"Dartain says to you, "Let me see that. Ah, this is Shissar writing. Hmm, yes, I think I've seen something like this before."You say to Dartain, "Is that so? Where?"Dartain says to you, "When I was researching Mayong Mistmoore's discoveries, there were a few sigils like this one that he had notes on, and was attempting to find if there was a particular significance to. Some of these were clearly just bits of the written language of the Shissar, but others were slightly different, more ornate, seemingly more important."You say to Dartain, "Did you research them?"Dartain says to you, "Only far enough to discern that I couldn't learn more about it. There didn't seem to be anything to cross-reference with these, unlike the other sigils, which had many appearances in history. Whatever they are, they seemed to mean something only to the Shissar themselves."You say to Dartain, "Are they worth looking into, then?"Dartain says to you, "Hmm... I believe so, yes. As long as I'm attempting to look into the information you've provided me thus far, it might be worth seeing if there's something here to be discovered."You say to Dartain, "Very well, I am ready. Where should we start?"Dartain says to you, "I think that the one who might have the most information on these sigils would be the one who discovered them in the first place - Mayong Mistmoore himself. He has had more time to be looking for the meaning to these symbols, and might have information that we can use. It's with him that you should begin."You say to Al'Kabor, "The idea of rummaging through a vampire's belongings isn't terribly appealing, but I'll see what I can find."<h3>Monoliths of Theer</h3>You say, "Hail, Dartain"Dartain says to you, "Shh... one moment. Let me finish this passage."You say to Dartain, "My apologies."Dartain says to you, "... and finished. Welcome back. What did you find out for us?"You say to Dartain, "Quite a bit, actually. It seems that these sigils might be representative of something he calls the "monoliths of Theer". According to his notes, these are important to the calendar of the Shissar."Dartain says to you, "The calendar... hmm."You say to Dartain, "There's more. It seems that the calendar was intended to be a part of the stone. It appears that Mayong has unearthed the calendar, and is attempting to find the sigils that fit on its face. He seems to have found a few, and is still in search of them."Dartain says to you, "I have a theory. I want to see if we can test that theory. I have one more thing for you to do, if you would."You say to Dartain, "Certainly. What do you need?"Dartain says to you, "This symbol, the one with the three lines on it, I have an idea as to what it might be. I'd like you to check and see if you can confirm my theory. I'll need you to go to the library in Paineel. Search for any tomes relating to the Deepwater Knights, and search through the texts. I have a feeling you'll find what we're looking for there."You say to Dartain, "Umm... that's it? Is there anything else I should know?"Dartain says to you, "Not for now. I don't want to color your perception with my theory. Return when you find anything."You say to Dartain, "Very well. I'll return when I can."<h3>The Deepwater Writings</h3>You say, "Hail, Al'Kabor"Al'Kabor says to you, "I've been anticipating your return. Did you find any texts of the Deepwater Knights?"You say to Al'Kabor, "I did. I searched through the library of Paineel, and I believe I found what we were looking for."Al'Kabor says to you, "What were you able to discover?"You say to Al'Kabor, "Well, I did not find any references to someone working on this rune in particular - it seems like its discovery was rather new. But it seems that a similar shape appears in a few select pieces of text for the Deepwater Knights."

Wilin

10-19-2010, 01:04 PM

<h3>The Chelsith Stone Rings</h3>Al'Kabor says to you, "Indeed. What else did you find?"You say to Al'Kabor, "It seemed like it was a symbol that was associated with Prexus, coming up frequently in texts relating to a "Chosen" being from of all places... Velious. I was wondering if maybe it was someone from Velious, but since that continent is lost, there's no way to be certain."Al'Kabor says to you, "That's because I don't believe that it was someone from Velious, but Velious itself."You say to Al'Kabor, "I'm... I'm sorry, what do you mean?"Al'Kabor says to you, "I think we might have been looking at this the wrong way. These aren't all representative of beings, but are representative of many different things. While some are certainly beings, others appear to be events or objects."You say to Al'Kabor, "Like what?"Al'Kabor says to you, "For example, I believe the Rune of Oblivion is less about Anashti Sul herself, and more about her return to Norrath. She became a herald, proving that return from Nothingness was possible. The Rune of Sundering represents the destruction of Luclin, and I believe that the Rune of Severing is the phasing of Odus into Ultera."You say to Al'Kabor, "I see. Is there a connection?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Indeed! You see, these things fall on specific points of the prophecy. Certain things, like the Rune of Bayle and the Rune of Velious, fall on the inside ring. Others, such are the Rune of Sundering and Rune of Oblivion, fall on the second ring. This is no accident."You say to Al'Kabor, "What is your theory, then?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Look at the sigils and what they represent. Look at how they are placed. What do you see?"You say to Al'Kabor, "Well, if what you're saying is correct, then the inner symbols seem to represent beings and places. Similarly, the outer ring would appear to be events - things that have happened in Norrath's past represented on the Chelsith Stone."Al'Kabor says to you, "My theory is this. The sigils in the outer ring are a specific series of events. These events are somehow connected, either with each other or with a larger event that they all play a part in. As these events come to pass, we grow ever closer to the culmination of Age's End."You say to Al'Kabor, "What is the inner ring?"Al'Kabor says to you, "I believe they are instructions."You say to Al'Kabor, "Instructions? For what?"Al'Kabor says to you, "Preventing the coming of Age's End. I believe that in order to turn back the oblivion we seem to be destined for, we must pull together the pieces to counter that who is represented within the center of the prophecy."You say to Al'Kabor, "What is it that we must do, then?"Al'Kabor says to you, "I don't know the answer to that just yet, but I do know that according to the last rune you found, the one of the keys to all of this is tied to Velious, and thus, we must find a way to get there."You say to Dartain, "Hmm... I think there might be a place to start. The island of New Halas was discovered with the dwarven people known to once call Velious home: the coldain dwarves. It's possible that they might have some idea where Velious is, or how to find it."Dartain says to you, "Excellent thinking, adventurer. You will need to travel there, and see if you can find any information regarding the location of the lost continent, and how we might rediscover it."You say to Dartain, "Very well. Let me see what I can do. Farewell."<h3>Seeking the Historian</h3>You say, "Hail, Filnn Shatterhand"Filnn Shatterhand says to you, "Well, what do we have here? Another pilgrim coming to visit the city of Marr, perhaps? What is it I can do for you?"You say to Filnn Shatterhand, "Actually, I am here to find out more about the continent of Velious, and I am hoping maybe you can provide some information. Specifically, what has become of it, and how we might get there."Filnn Shatterhand says to you, "Heh heh, well, as much of a surprise as this might be to you, but none of us have been to Velious in quite some time. And believe me, there are some here who would love to return to our ancestral homeland if they could."You say to Filnn Shatterhand, "Hmm... so is there no way to return there? Is Velious lost?"Filnn Shatterhand says to you, "Well, it was there when we left it, if that's what you mean. But then, the reason we're here is because shards of the moon were raining down on us, which broke off the shelf our fortress was built on. We can't be certain what became of the continent after that, since we were no longer a part of it."You say to Filnn Shatterhand, "Very well, then. Well, what about this sigil? Is it something you recognize?"Filnn Shatterhand says to you, "Let me have a look at that. Hmm... no, I can't say that it is. It looks like a claw mark from some creature... Oh... you know, hold it there."You say to Filnn Shatterhand, "What? Did you think of something?"Filnn Shatterhand says to you, "Actually, there is a tome in our library that has that sigil on it's cover page."You say to Filnn Shatterhand, "What is the tome?"Filnn Shatterhand says to you, "Primarily, it is a book about sea creatures - giant creatures that seem to be creations of Prexus himself. Apparently there were behemoths that existed in the oceans around Velious, and this book contains what information we had on them."You say to Filnn Shatterhand, "I see... okay, well, I'll see what I can find in it, then. Maybe it has information I can use. Thanks for your time. Farewell."<h3>Prexus' Chosen One</h3>You find a tome that seems to describe creatures of incredible size seen around the shores of Velious. It speculates on their existence, saying that they seem to possess a power beyond creatures of their kind. This book appears to confirm what you found in the Deepwater Knight tome, but doesn't expressly state Prexus's name.The following page does, however, bear the same symbol as the Deepwater Knight tome. It also seems to speak of Prexus, saying that other races on Velious worshiped the Ocean Lord. They also, evidently, had a method for summoning these immense beasts. It details assembling a horn, and gives information on the necessary parts.You say, "Hail, Al'Kabor"Al'Kabor says to you, "Welcome back, adventurer. Did you visit the city of New Halas?"You say to Al'Kabor, "I did, and I believe I found some information we can use."Al'Kabor says to you, "Excellent. What were you able to find out?"You say to Al'Kabor, "I found a tome bearing the sigil you asked me to investigate, detailing creatures that were â€˜chosenâ€™ creatures of Prexus. These were massive creatures that were at the behest of Prexus, and could be tapped to do his bidding."Al'Kabor says to you, "Interesting. What more did you find?"You say to Al'Kabor, "I was able to find instructions for creating a summoning horn for calling on one of these chosen creatures. I collected the pieces, and have assembled the horn."Al'Kabor says to you, "Very well, then. I don't believe that the placement of the sigil is happenstance. You did the right thing by assembling the horn."You say to Al'Kabor, "We're going to attempt to summon the creature, then?"Al'Kabor says to you, "We are. I cannot be sure what will happen, but if for nothing else than to solve my own curiosity and to test my theory, let us see if the horn will do as it is intended to do."You say to Al'Kabor, "All right... how do we know the creature won't simply attack us? We don't know what is going to answer the call."Al'Kabor says to you, "Correct. We do not."You say to Al'Kabor, "This seems like a strange way to test a theory, to be honest. I should hope that you will come to my aid before I get devoured, should this thing turn malicious."Al'Kabor says to you, "Of course. Now, head to the docks, and blow the horn. Let's see what answers."You receive a summoning horn.You say to Al'Kabor, "Very well then."<h3>The Call of the Ocean Lord</h3>You say, "Hail, Stissa"Stissa says to you, "Greetings, friend. I am pleased that you sounded the beacon for us so that we might finally complete our long journey. Finally, the mighty Lodizal can rest."You say to Stissa, "Lodizal? Is that who this creature is?"Stissa says to you, "It is. Lodizal was chosen by Prexus following the Age of Turmoil and infused with a piece of his power. He was to wait until such a time when he was called on by Prexus again, and thus, has waited in the waters of Iceclad for the call of the Ocean Lord ever since."You say to Stissa, "Who are you?"Stissa says to you, "We are the othmir. Our Speaker, Nipik, was the one to receive the visions of Lodizal, to guide us to where he slept. It was our duty to watch over him, to ensure he is fed and protected, under the direction of the Speaker - the one who interprets the will of Lodizal himself."You say to Stissa, "How did you get here?"Stissa says to you, "Lodzial has slept for as long as we can remember. When he awoke, it was up to us to help guide him, although we knew not where to go. Your clarion call beckoned him to his destination."You say to Stissa, "Here? What is he here for, then?"Stissa says to you, "He is here for the destined ones. He is here to bring them to his home, to help them find their way to Velious."You say to Stissa, "Wait, he knows the way to Velious? He can take us there?"Stissa says to you, "He can, and he will. He merely needs time now to rest. Once he is able, we will take the destined ones to the shores of his home."You say to Stissa, "Is there anything I can do to help him?"Stissa says to you, "No. For now, leave him to rest. Soon though, he will be ready, and will begin the long journey home."You say to Stissa, "Very well. Then I wish him a swift recovery. Farewell to you."<h3>Conclusion</h3>You say, "Hail, Dartain"Dartain says to you, "Welcome back. Tell me what happened."You say to Dartain, "I sounded the horn, as you suggested."Dartain says to you, "So, the horn worked, did it?"You say to Dartain, "It did. It acted as a guide to Lodizal, a creature that evidently was blessed by none other than Prexus himself. It appears to be his duty to help the "destined ones" reach the shores of Velious."Dartain says to you, "Interesting. It seems that perhaps even the gods themselves are involved in this endeavor as well. I believe that we are on the right path, then, and the appearance of Lodizal is evidence of that. This is excellent."You say to Dartain, "What do we do now?"You gain Alternate Advancement experience by completing a quest!You gain experience!Dartain says to you, "For now, I will continue to work on my studies here. I might need to call on you again for more assistance, as you have preformed admirably in every task I asked of you. For now, please go about your usual business. Im sure we will speak again."You say to Dartain, "Very well. Farewell to you for now."

Mustang8259

10-20-2010, 01:18 PM

Woot! Thanks for posting this here as I always browse the lore forums but never really go to any of the other fansites much. It seems like things (at least some of them =P) are finally starting to make a little bit of sense, can't wait for Destiny of Velious so we can find out more!

Trevalon

10-24-2010, 04:47 AM

Having finally taken a little time to do this quest I just have one real complaint(Warning Minor Spoiler if you haven't read the lore).Could you not freaking make Lodizal animated? I mean seriously Sony. We have this huge turtle, chosen by Prexus himself, coming to fulfill a destiny to take us to Velious and he is just lumbering along like he's part of the "Its a Small World" ride at Disney.Please Dev's give him some kinda of animation so he at least looks like hes swimming! The cutscene was so rediculous I laughed out loud at how absurd it looked just seeing him float toward you as if the Othmir were pulling him along on a rope.

Meirril

10-24-2010, 06:39 PM

<cite>Trevalon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Having finally taken a little time to do this quest I just have one real complaint(Warning Minor Spoiler if you haven't read the lore).Could you not freaking make Lodizal animated? I mean seriously Sony. We have this huge turtle, chosen by Prexus himself, coming to fulfill a destiny to take us to Velious and he is just lumbering along like he's part of the "Its a Small World" ride at Disney.Please Dev's give him some kinda of animation so he at least looks like hes swimming! The cutscene was so rediculous I laughed out loud at how absurd it looked just seeing him float toward you as if the Othmir were pulling him along on a rope.</blockquote>Strangely my major complain is the hats the Othmir were wearing. Shells? Where is my red fez?!? The fez was winsauce, the shell is wawfails.

Iskandar

10-24-2010, 06:52 PM

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote>Strangely my major complain is the hats the Othmir were wearing. Shells? Where is my red fez?!? The fez was winsauce, the shell is wawfails.</blockquote>/agree <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> I'm hoping they just lost their <a href="http://www.seyiyes.com/seyiyes-othmir.jpg" target="_blank">cool fezes and armor</a> during the trip and scrounged up some shells to replace them -- sort of a "backup" hat <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" /> Or maybe the envoy doesn't have enough rank to warrant a cool fez (some of the different EQ1 looks are <a href="http://almarsguides.com/Almar%27s%20Stuff/EQ/Farming/Othmirs.jpg" target="_blank">here</a>).And Devs, don't forget the cool <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaUqVbEzgTk" target="_blank">Othmir theme music</a>! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" />

Cronyn

10-25-2010, 03:26 PM

Jeez, he's TIRED. Didn't you read the quest text? Give a turtle a break.He'll be much more 'animated' come the release. He just needs time to rest. ;-p

Vortexelemental

10-25-2010, 03:38 PM

Someone needs to post a picture. I Want to see this Othmir!

Iskandar

10-25-2010, 04:02 PM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Jeez, he's TIRED. Didn't you read the quest text? Give a turtle a break.He'll be much more 'animated' come the release. He just needs time to rest. ;-p</blockquote>(All) Gameraaaaaaaaaa! Gameraaaaaaaaaaaaa!Gamera is really neat,Gamera is filled with meat,We've been eating Gamera!Shell, feet, eyes, brain, claws, breath scales, fun!(Tom Servo) Doctor Forrester is kind of a jerk,and Frank is really dumb too!(Crow) We have to take part in these lame experiments!(Joel) But do we complain?(Tom) No!(Joel) No!(Crow) Yes!(Tom) Huh?(Tom) So we hy-kee-ba all over the place(Joel) and talk of the thousand wonderful days.(All) Gamera is really sweet,he is filled with turtle meat!Now we have commercial siiiiiiign! I sooooooo couldn't resist <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" />

Gungo

10-25-2010, 04:07 PM

Vaedaer

10-25-2010, 04:09 PM

<cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Someone needs to post a picture. I Want to see this Othmir!</blockquote> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Kerrir/EQ2_000645.jpg" width="800" height="419" />

Cronyn

10-25-2010, 04:11 PM

<cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite><blockquote>(All) Gameraaaaaaaaaa! Gameraaaaaaaaaaaaa!Gamera is really neat,Gamera is filled with meat,We've been eating Gamera!Shell, feet, eyes, brain, claws, breath scales, fun!(Tom Servo) Doctor Forrester is kind of a jerk,and Frank is really dumb too!(Crow) We have to take part in these lame experiments!(Joel) But do we complain?(Tom) No!(Joel) No!(Crow) Yes!(Tom) Huh?(Tom) So we hy-kee-ba all over the place(Joel) and talk of the thousand wonderful days.(All) Gamera is really sweet,he is filled with turtle meat!Now we have commercial siiiiiiign! I sooooooo couldn't resist <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>MST3k is pretty much the greatest show ever.

Fyzzl

10-25-2010, 04:15 PM

YES! Fezzes rule! Thank you thank thank you!

Vortexelemental

10-25-2010, 04:41 PM

<cite>Vaedaer@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Someone needs to post a picture. I Want to see this Othmir!</blockquote> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Kerrir/EQ2_000645.jpg" width="800" height="419" /></blockquote>Thanks, pretty kool.

Phaso

10-25-2010, 06:38 PM

Agreed on Lodizal, I never played EQ1 and am not terribly familiar with the lore and I thought it looked more like a giant, dead, cross-eyed turtle being dragged along by an underwater chain. You know what would've improved it? Moving eyes and a mouth. The fact it "swims" (if you want to call it that) along with its mouth gaping open and eyes crossed is just ridiculous and offensive to anyone's impression this thing is alive at all. Lazy, unimpressive animation work... hope what's coming with the expansion is better.

Xalmat

10-25-2010, 06:58 PM

Those Othmir have some impressive <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bag_of_holding" target="_blank">Bags of Holding</a>.

Rezikai

10-25-2010, 10:32 PM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite><blockquote>(All) Gameraaaaaaaaaa! Gameraaaaaaaaaaaaa!Gamera is really neat,Gamera is filled with meat,We've been eating Gamera!Shell, feet, eyes, brain, claws, breath scales, fun!(Tom Servo) Doctor Forrester is kind of a jerk,and Frank is really dumb too!(Crow) We have to take part in these lame experiments!(Joel) But do we complain?(Tom) No!(Joel) No!(Crow) Yes!(Tom) Huh?(Tom) So we hy-kee-ba all over the place(Joel) and talk of the thousand wonderful days.(All) Gamera is really sweet,he is filled with turtle meat!Now we have commercial siiiiiiign! I sooooooo couldn't resist <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>MST3k is pretty much the greatest show ever.</blockquote>depends.. the ones w/ Joel were awesome but I was never much of a mike fan.

Thrads

11-01-2010, 01:41 AM

It would seem we can finally begin formulating what some of the runes on the Chelsith stone are, but we should keep in mind that is matches with the other image here:(Thanks Coniaric for the images)<img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/114/calendar1.jpg" width="720" height="720" /><img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4561/calendar2b.jpg" width="720" height="720" />Top Image:Inner ring:Top: Dal Crown Rune - Firiona VieBottom Right: Velious Rune - Velious or LodizalBottom Left: Monoliths of Theer? - Someone clarify, as Al`Kabor wasn't that specific as to if this was the image. He also mentioned the "Rune of Bayle" being on the inside.Central Image: Kerafyrm?Outer Ring:Top Right: Rune of Sunder - Destruction of LuclinBottom Right - Rune of Severing? - Phasing of Odus into UlteraBottom Left - ?Top Left - Rune of Oblivion? - Anashti`Sul's return from the voidBottom Image:No data

DrkVsr

11-01-2010, 02:54 AM

The central image in the top pic can't be Kerafyrm, can it? Isn't that the symbol for the Dark Elves? It's plastered all over Neriak (or at least it was in EQ1)

Eriol

11-01-2010, 02:56 AM

It may or may not have significance that the item you get for the "<a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/A_Mark_of_Awakening" target="_blank">A Mark of Awakening</a>" quest, for which the reward from the quest is a neck slot item that "projects" the top symbol from the second image there. A picture of this is on the "<a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_of_the_Awakened_Intellect" target="_blank">Mark of the Awaked Intellect</a>" item page there.So I'd say if Kerafym gets a symbol, I'd be surprised if it isn't the "Awakened" symbol that's the same as the item from that quest, and thus your speculation about the center symbol in the top image is incorrect, and it isn't kerafym. The center symbol would then be... Theer? Somebody unknown on Velious? Methinks that for Velious to be important, something NEW (for EQ2 at least) has to be there, or somebody familiar needs to do something THERE.One thing to remember is that raid events "happened" and thus if 4-rune Theer is defeated, by Lore isn't he DEFEATED, and thus won't be taking part in any future events? Or no? What's his current status?

Jrral

11-01-2010, 02:33 PM

<cite>Thrads wrote:</cite><blockquote>Top Image:Outer Ring:Bottom Left - ?</blockquote>I'm not sure what the bottom-left image means, but it's the same image we see on Seals of El'Arad. So, some connection to El'Arad?

Zabjade

11-01-2010, 03:16 PM

Othmir with a Human next to them for perspective. I do wish the plushied at least moved. <img src="http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/305/b/d/othmir__eq2_screenshot__by_dpragan-d31yfy4.jpg" width="618" height="676" />

Cusashorn

11-01-2010, 04:48 PM

Those are still Fezes btw. They're just made of shells, not cloth. Fezes nontheless though. Just look at their general shape. Besides, it was only the chieftans who wore the fez hat in the first place. Maybe the real Othmir chief wears a different fez.

kelvmor

11-01-2010, 07:28 PM

If Lodizal is Gamera, Kerafyrm is Godzilla. True story.

Anaogi

11-01-2010, 08:27 PM

<cite>Thrads wrote:</cite><blockquote>It would seem we can finally begin formulating what some of the runes on the Chelsith stone are, but we should keep in mind that is matches with the other image here:(Thanks Coniaric for the images)<img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/114/calendar1.jpg" width="720" height="720" /><img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4561/calendar2b.jpg" width="720" height="720" />Top Image:Inner ring:Top: Dal Crown Rune - Firiona VieCorrected: Reference to Prexus, and ultimately Lodizal, as per World Event.Bottom Right: Velious Rune - Velious or LodizalLikely a reference to Lodizal's role to play.Bottom Left: Monoliths of Theer? - Someone clarify, as Al`Kabor wasn't that specific as to if this was the image. He also mentioned the "Rune of Bayle" being on the inside.I so wanted to line this up with the other lands of Norrath (doesn't work, count is wrong), and say the Inner Ring indicates the 'Chosen Ones' going to Velious to deal with...Central Image: Kerafyrm?Yeah, pretty likely.Outer Ring:Top Right: Rune of Sunder - Destruction of LuclinBottom Right - Rune of Severing? - Phasing of Odus into UlteraBottom Left - ?Design seen on Seal of El'Arad. As the devs have confirmed this is of significance, it may refer to the rise of the Duality.Top Left - Rune of Oblivion? - Anashti`Sul's return from the voidBottom Image:No dataCentral image - mark associated with the Freethinkers. Possible reference to Mayong Mistmoore?Inside upper right - Look familiar? The trophy from L&L Roekillik is identical in shape. This cannot be a coincidence.Inside upper left - Can't place it. Sure I've seen it before.Outside top - Seen aboard the Vigilant. Significance unknown.Outside bottom - Roehn Theer? I know I've seen this around and swear that was the context...Outside left & right - No ideas here.</blockquote>

Garnaf

11-01-2010, 09:45 PM

Overlay the top and bottom images to get the full prophecy (outer and Inner rings), at least this is my theory<img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/114/calendar1.jpg" width="720" height="720" />Outer RingTop Right: Rune of Sunder, Destruction of LuclinBottom Right: The Seal of Arad, I'm GUESSING this Rune relates to the consumption of Aeteok and Enoxus by Kerafyrm (it drops off Raid Mobs in SF, Roehn Theer relation is likely, especially given the relation, at least in name, to El'Arad)Bottom Left: The Rune of Severing (I think), this is the one I imagine represents Odus becoming part of the Ultera, but I could be wrong...Top Left: The symbol of Thule, probably the Greenmist.Inner RingTop Center: Dal Crown, Relates to Firiona Vie (assuming Al'Kabor is right)Bottom Right: Prexus' Rune, Velious or LodizalBottom Left: The Nine... The Ethernauts? or the old pact of gods to oppose Veeshan? We come back to "The Nine" too much for my comfort... (Afterthought: THIS May be the Rune of Bayle! As in Bayle Shiverfist, Leader of the Ethernauts! At least its a thought.)and of courseDead Center: The infamous Dark Elven symbol (that may or may not represent Innoruuk, or Veeshan, or Kerafyrm, or maybe even Norrath itself! Since everything on this ring is related to people and objects, all of which take place ON Norrath!)<img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4561/calendar2b.jpg" width="720" height="720" />Outer RingTop Center: Mark of Awakening, likely the Awakening of Kerafyrm (the Start of Ages End's countdown clock)Right: Rune of Oblivion, The Void, probably relating to the Return of Anashti Sul as Al'Kabor suggestedBottom Center: This is the seal of the Combine Empire... I really don't know, PROBABLY relates to the "discovery" of Luclin by the Combine oh so long ago (which set off the chain of events that ultimately destroyed Luclin)Left: UnknownIt looks like the events aren't in a given "order", maybe this is just a checklist... The thing I notice is that most of them have to do with Luclin (Greenmist, Oblivion, Combine), and even Severing is partly related (the Odus Nexus failed because it tried to connect to Luclin as well)Inner RingTop Right: The heck? I don't recall this one...Top Left: Monolith of Theer rune, at least I THINK it is, it shows up on those protection pillars in the El'Arad fight, as I think it's related to Theer.and of courseDead Center: The Rune of Ydal instantly evokes Mayong Mistmoore. Possibly important.

Cusashorn

11-02-2010, 01:11 AM

I could swear I've seen the left outer ring symbol somewhere in the game. The order of Rime perhaps? I just can't put my finger on it.

Garnaf

11-02-2010, 02:03 AM

I think I've seen it in the Anchor of Bazzul, or maybe in Ferzhul, I seem to remember it having something to do with the void, specifically on the shadowmen, but maybe it was rime.

Rezikai

11-02-2010, 05:56 AM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could swear I've seen the left outer ring symbol somewhere in the game. The order of Rime perhaps? I just can't put my finger on it.</blockquote>I believe its the ratonga "racial" tattoo thats spoken of in the "hidden" windstalker village quest. We "may" have seen it in the Hole a few times where the Ratonga are but the description of the ratonga tattoo brand matches that symbol almost if not exactly.LEFT INNER on the "Ydal" wheel is the symbol used in the Shard of Love by Mithaniel Marr to seal the chapel with Erolisi's body.

Garnaf

11-02-2010, 11:47 PM

<cite>Rezikai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could swear I've seen the left outer ring symbol somewhere in the game. The order of Rime perhaps? I just can't put my finger on it.</blockquote>I believe its the ratonga "racial" tattoo thats spoken of in the "hidden" windstalker village quest. We "may" have seen it in the Hole a few times where the Ratonga are but the description of the ratonga tattoo brand matches that symbol almost if not exactly. LEFT INNER on the "Ydal" wheel is the symbol used in the Shard of Love by Mithaniel Marr to seal the chapel with Erolisi's body.</blockquote>That's true. And the RIGHT inner looks more like a writen script, maybe THAT'S the Monolith Rune, but then what's the LEFT one? Maybe it relates to Marr in some way, or someone related to the Marr twins... I think In game placement is probably a red herring for most of these though, like the WHOLE upper wheel was for so long. (even in this post there are a few claims that it HAS to be the Dark Elves cause it was all over their stuff in EQ1, or Kerafyrm cause he's the main focus of this (but he has his own outer rune).)It PROBABLY means "Norrath", at least that's my guess. Because it HAS been seen everywhere, and I don't think I'm the first to suggest its nature as "Norrath". Taking what we don't know.The nine dots (Inner Upper Circle): I maintain this either means "The Nine" that Zebuxoruk mentioned. (Which I still say mean the Ethernauts) or is the Rune of Bayle itself (Bayle was the Ethernaut Leader afterall...) The two circles (Outer Lower Circle): So you think the Ratonga eh? I guess we'll see, I can't think of anything it could be tbh, maybe an event yet to come... the hexagon with 3 spires (Inner Lower Circle): Either the Monolith Rune, or an unknown (maybe Marr Related, or maybe PALADIN related specifically, given its placement in the Erudin Royal Palace [I think, haven't been there in a while] it could relate to a single paladin rather than to someone related to either group (Erudites or Marr))the cursive looking X thingy (Inner Lower Circle): The other contender for Monolith, the hint given by Dartain is that the Monolith rune looks like Shissar writing, and this rune looks closest to a writen script rather than simple iconography. Otherwise an unknown. All things considered this update has clarified a MASSIVE amount of the Prophecy, specifically identifying FOUR new runes (Oblivion's meaning, The Dal Crown, Prexus Chosen / Lodizal / Velious, The Rune of Severing), and implying 3 more (the rune related to Luclin's destruction, while identified, had already been specifically identified for us, twice, and thus is NOT included in this count)

Zabjade

11-03-2010, 01:24 PM

Are one of those the mark of the awakening?Edited for clarity

Triasa

11-03-2010, 02:18 PM

The inner top right symbol (the "x" shaped one) was in the prelude events for Sentinel's Fate. When confronted with multiple Soulfires placed on a projection of the calendar, the spy with you says something to the effect of "Which one of these symbol's is Lucan's... ah, here it is!" and proceeds to take the Soulfire placed upon that symbol.Not a confirmation that it represents Lucan, but it's a strong indication.As for the outer bottom left symbol, it's traditionally been associated with Rallos Zek (or his worshippers). I did point out in another thread that it's strange to see this symbol on the Marks of Arad as well.

Rainmare

11-22-2010, 06:00 PM

I think the inner circle images are: upperleft is Bayle, the oringally person to snag Exonus, the Fironia/Dal crown if al'kabor is right, then Lucan, wielder of Aeteok. lower right is Lodizal, lower left is probably the monoliths. the two most inner images that overlap are probably Kerafyrm and Mayong. judging from Al'kabor talking about mayong hoarding info on this..it could mean that Kera is a major/primary force trying to bring Age's End, while Mayong is a major/primary force trying to prevent it.the outer ring I think it is: Top center is the Awakening of Kera, next is the Shattering/phasing of Odus into Ultera (since I firmly think from the text during the platform boss in the palace of el'arad is the feedback cause luclin to go boom) then is the assault by Anashti, then is the rediscovery of Odus/confrontation with Theer. the middle bottom is a symbol of the Combine...it was all over Sanctus Seru, so maybe we'll find survivors of luclin someplace? ..the next symbol is commonly associated with Rallos. maybe hints to it are in the Vigilant. the Tallonites claim to be looking for something, and that the ship itself has special abilities. maybe they found it and will use it.next seems to refer to the Ratonga..it's eerily familiar to the tattoo/brand they are all supposed to have somewhere on thier bodies. next maybe a referance to the Greenmist. now that we know that Cazic does not 'own' the greenmist but he can direct it..it could be that if the countdown gets that far...maybe Kera will try to unleash it/control it for his own purging of norrath.

DrkVsr

11-22-2010, 07:17 PM

<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>next seems to refer to the Ratonga..it's eerily familiar to the tattoo/brand they are all supposed to have somewhere on thier bodies.</blockquote>Anyone willing to shave a rat to see if that's true?

Lodrelhai

11-22-2010, 10:58 PM

Re: The Great Feedback causing the destruction of Luclin - not likely. Luclin was destroyed about 50 years before the start of the game. The construction of the new Nexus was about 2 centuries ago:Alwar Tissuyr says to you, "Almost two hundred years ago, our forebears decided that they should become the keepers of the art of teleportation. To this end the citizens of Erudin and Paineel resolved to create their own teleportation nexus. Agents were sent out across Norrath and a new set of spires were created."You say to Alwar Tissuyr, "Go on."Alwar Tissuyr says to you, "Upon the activation of this new nexus, a terrible cataclysm occurred. A massive arcane explosion damaged the Nexus hub and destroyed all the newly created spires."Back to more pertinent discussion:First image, outer ring, bottom left: I thought this was a Rallosian symbol? I remember lots of discussions where we thought that was the 2nd Rallosian War. There's also this tidbit from the Velious preview:Norrathian guardians who undertake this burden will be tested by labyrinthine dungeons, the harsh Velious tundra, and powerful creatures including the God of War himself, Rallos Zek.Bottom right would be the Rune of Severing, given that the Duality tells us it's found among both followers of Cazic-Thule and on Erudite archetecture. A variant of it was found in old Erudin, and that symbol exactly in old Paineel - and EQ1 Heretics were both Erudite and, usually, worshippers of Cazic-Thule.I'm thinking the center symbol (symbols?) are Mayong rather than Kerafyrm. Certainly Kera's shaping up to be a major threat - but so was the Void, and that turned out to be only one step towards Age's End. Mayong, on the other hand, has an intense interest in this prophecy, and while the destruction of Norrath would be of personal concern to anyone, it's possible his reason for thinking it important does not match ours. He also seems to identify closely with the Tier'Dal; if he is, or was, a Ydal, then that identification makes sense. Since the Ydal seem to have been the predecessors to the Tier'Dal, it's possible that the latter adopted a symbol of former as their own, and we have the link between this symbol in the prophecy and it's use in old Neriak. The center symbol in the second circle I'm not as familiar with. I've seen mention of it being a Ydal symbol, and also of it being a Freethinkers mark. If the former, we again have the link to Mayong. If the latter, I admit this is a stretch, but didn't the Freethinkers end up burning their mark onto Mayong's face?I do admit Kerafyrm has more motivation for destroying Norrath - destroying the lesser races, the dragons who oppose him, and Veeshan herself seems to be a standing goal of his, and destroying Norrath would complete 2/3 of those goals at once. Mayong's motivation isn't clear. Perhaps in pursuit of the meaning of the prophecy, he is becoming that which he seeks. Maybe mortality, immortality, and godhood have all been fleeting pleasures at best for him, and he figures to give total annihilation a try. Maybe his goal is to destroy everyone else and leave Norrath for his own. We don't know. But since we rarely know why Mayong does anything, that's pretty much par for the course.Edit: Almost forgot! Someone mentioned how Soulfire was on the cursive-style X in the live event before SF. The Qeynos Claymore is gone when we get to the chamber, but the gap in the arranged swords is over the other inner symbol of the second image - the odd paw-like mark.<a title="Qeynos Claymore by lodrelhai, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/33283192@N00/4171493954/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/4171493954_aba640b882.jpg" width="500" height="328" /></a>

Aceshot

11-25-2010, 07:18 PM

Just as a suggestion. Maybe we are not looking at one calander, but two.We only see the second one with Exonus and Soulfire, so maybe the orginal one is the events leading up to them, with what will happen if we don't have them, but if we do, we get the second calander?Or one is for Exonus, if we chose that blade for Order, or Aetrok for Destruction.Or maybe we are looking at this from the wrong side. Maybe it isn't meant for us at all, and is rather a bad guys checklist and we need to do something else to stop it?

BleemTeam

11-26-2010, 02:51 AM

which rune is the timesplit one?

Andemon

11-26-2010, 12:01 PM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>I could swear I've seen the left outer ring symbol somewhere in the game. The order of Rime perhaps? I just can't put my finger on it.</blockquote>You've probably seen it elsewhere, but that symbol is on the Cloak of Emblematic Power. From LoN expansion Doom of the Ancient Ones. Using it summons a whirling fiery emblem to your left hand:<img src="http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7914/emblemr.jpg" />Not much of a clue, I suppose. At least it rules out the Order of Rime.

aianye

12-15-2010, 02:40 PM

<cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote>Othmir with a Human next to them for perspective. I do wish the plushied at least moved. <img src="http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/305/b/d/othmir__eq2_screenshot__by_dpragan-d31yfy4.jpg" width="618" height="676" /></blockquote>Are these in the game currently? Or was that on Test?

Cusashorn

12-15-2010, 02:44 PM

They're live. Go do the questline from the Duality like this whole thread indicates.