how to disable auto-autoattack when casting a SPELL as a sk/paladin

[liquidtroll]

<p>when i cast a SPELL with sk or paladin, my autoattack is going active.</p><p>i tried some other classes, but it seems only to happen to sks and paladins.</p><p>not a big problem? well there is this one mob in icy keep odaufe or whatever hes spelled.</p><p>if you hit him with a meleeattack you get hurt. 2-3 hits and you are dead if your healers are sleeping.</p><p>its a real pain in the eel to run circles around this mob to get out of autoattack range or disable autoattack after each hit.</p><p>before patch X you werent allowed to autoattack when you removed your weapon, but now you are able to hit with your fists.  so the no weapon trick is obsolete.</p><p>is there a way to diable the auto-autoattack when CASTING a SPELL?</p><p>yes yes, icykeep, noone goes there, let a caster or healer tank, blah blah.</p><p>but is there a way to disable it? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Gungo]

<p>um you shouldnt be able to hit with your fists.</p><p>Take off your weapon and target an npc/training dummy. Does your combat arts all turn grey/unusable?</p>

[liquidtroll]

<p>im able to hit with my fists like 12-20 dmg <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and all procs are able to trigger.</p>

[Gungo]

<p><cite>liquidtroll wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>im able to hit with my fists like 12-20 dmg <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> and all procs are able to trigger.</p></blockquote><p>odd i guess that helps w disarming mobs, but that changes alot of strats in game. </p><p>The only way for you to NOT auto atk a named now would be to turn your back, which in turn kills your avoidance. </p>

[Eritius]

<p>Macro this to the abilities:</p><p>/autoattack 0</p><p>It will let you cast the spell then immediately turns off auto attack.</p>

[Jeal]

<p>why would you ever do that.</p>

[Aule]

<p><cite>Gungo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>liquidtroll wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>im able to hit with my fists like 12-20 dmg <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> and all procs are able to trigger.</p></blockquote><p>odd i guess that helps w disarming mobs, but that changes alot of strats in game. </p><p>The only way for you to NOT auto atk a named now would be to turn your back, which in turn kills your avoidance. </p></blockquote><p>Only for those weenie plate tanks, high-five Gungo.</p><p>On topic though, weren't they going to nerf these mobs again in some capacity?</p>

[Ironcleaver]

<p>If its the fight Im thinking of, I toss Amends on a T1 DPS, then just cast my spells. For my auto attack I use my ranged auto. It will do nothing in melee (too close of course) but if I loose hate and the mob runs off, an arrow is automatically shot out... I don't know about you, but my bow hits like a train made from cast-iron. Agro is almost always instantly snapped back. For a melee weapon I toss on the slowest delayed weapon I have, just in case I do have to use a melee attack, I have plenty of time to hit tilda "~" (to turn off auto melee). Ive even taken my weapon completely off (empty slot) just so I don't hit any melee abilities as well.</p><p>I love tanking that fight.</p>

[Aule]

<p><cite>Ironcleaver wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If its the fight Im thinking of, I toss Amends on a T1 DPS, then just cast my spells. For my auto attack I use my ranged auto. It will do nothing in melee (too close of course) but if I loose hate and the mob runs off, an arrow is automatically shot out... <span style="color: #ff0000;">I don't know about you, but my bow hits like a train made from cast-iron.</span> Agro is almost always instantly snapped back. For a melee weapon I toss on the slowest delayed weapon I have, just in case I do have to use a melee attack, I have plenty of time to hit tilda "~" (to turn off auto melee). Ive even taken my weapon completely off (empty slot) just so I don't hit any melee abilities as well.</p><p>I love tanking that fight.</p></blockquote><p>That's because the 1.25 multiplier from Knight's Stance applies to your ranged weapon also.   Dunno why that bug hasn't been fixed yet.</p>

[liquidtroll]

<p>it used to be:</p><p>remove weapon, taunt, cast, cast, cast, no problem</p><p>now its:</p><p>cast, autoattack, deactivate autoattack, cast, lose aggro, rescue, cast, autoattack, deactivate autoattack, lose aggro, snap, deactivate autoattack, repeat, etc, pp.</p><p>or:</p><p>cast, run, cast, run, cast, run, cast, run, but this makes healers angry <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>alternative: let a healer or caster tank, but i dont think this is what the devs had in mind.</p>

[Odys]

<p>Till reading this i was convinced that removing your weapon was a fine solution. We did Icy this way with a crusader tanking with his spells.</p><p>Since when can you attack with your fists ?  Last time i forgot my artisan kneedle i was unable to damage mobs (my piercing skill being 0).</p><p>I think that using spells but no CA will work, but most taunts are CA ;-(.</p>

[Meshuggahx]

<p><cite>Aule@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ironcleaver wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If its the fight Im thinking of, I toss Amends on a T1 DPS, then just cast my spells. For my auto attack I use my ranged auto. It will do nothing in melee (too close of course) but if I loose hate and the mob runs off, an arrow is automatically shot out... <span style="color: #ff0000;">I don't know about you, but my bow hits like a train made from cast-iron.</span> Agro is almost always instantly snapped back. For a melee weapon I toss on the slowest delayed weapon I have, just in case I do have to use a melee attack, I have plenty of time to hit tilda "~" (to turn off auto melee). Ive even taken my weapon completely off (empty slot) just so I don't hit any melee abilities as well.</p><p>I love tanking that fight.</p></blockquote><p>That's because the 1.25 multiplier from Knight's Stance applies to your ranged weapon also.   Dunno why that bug hasn't been fixed yet.</p></blockquote><p>It's not. it will show the increase dmg for like a sec and then it will go down to regular dmg it's just a display bug.</p>