Master Yael

[Xalmat]

<p>Curious, what is there to know about Master Yael? Only thing I know is that he was the guardian of the entrance to the Plane of Underfoot in EQ1.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Hmm. I don't think I ever learned too much about who Master Yael was. The EQ Atlas indicates that Yael was just one of the stronger, more malevolent elementals to come out of the Plane of Underfoot, and Dartain sealed off the Vault of Living Stone to keep him OUT of Norrath. If I understand it right, the story with the raid zone in SF is that the Void's pull has been cut off, so Yael wants to try and engulf Norrath into the Underfoot. He seems to just be an ultra powerful elemental with malevolent intentions towards just about everything.</p>

[Irgun]

<p>All I`ve heard about him was that he blames the erudites for being too weak to resist the shadow invasion and he wants to settle it in order to release an invasion upon ultera-dimension himself killing just everyone.</p><p>Energized thearic construct looks like a weapon created by Yael for such a purpose - but since we interfered with it too early it seems to attack everyone in its sight.</p><p>Just an opinion bolstering my theory.</p>

[Larkverdin]

<p>Thank you, I was wondering this exact same thing the other day.</p><p>Along the same lines, I haven't been into any of SF yet, but I've always been confused about the Underfoot. Is what we're encountering within the Hole, the Plane of Underfoot, just a section of it, or is it just underground and that's what we call the Underfoot in Norrath? Just looking for clarification</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Larkverdin@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thank you, I was wondering this exact same thing the other day.</p><p>Along the same lines, I haven't been into any of SF yet, but I've always been confused about the Underfoot. Is what we're encountering within the Hole, the Plane of Underfoot, just a section of it, or is it just underground and that's what we call the Underfoot in Norrath? Just looking for clarification</p></blockquote><p>As I understand it:</p><p>The Plane of Underfoot is a bona fide plane much like Plane of Fear, Plane of Hate, etc., are, with its own portal and everything. Plane of Underfoot is ruled by Brell Serilis, the Duke of Below.</p><p>As luck would have it, when the Hole was created during the original Erudin/Paineel civil war (which occured before EQ1 began), it blasted open a path to the portal, and basically allowed unfettered access to the plane. For reasons unknown it was subsequently sealed up. Much of the ruins of the Hole are ruins of Old Paineel, as the Paineel Erudites at the time had taken up subterranean residence prior to the original explosion that created the Hole.</p><p>In the most recent EQ expansion Everquest Underfoot, the entire expansion takes place in the Plane of Underfoot, with the Hole as its main point of entry. For reasons that <em>are</em> explained, but I'm not knowledgeable about, the seal to Underfoot is breached, which allows access in and out. The Everquest Underfoot expansion is not canon to the EQ2 timeline.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Larkverdin@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thank you, I was wondering this exact same thing the other day.</p><p>Along the same lines, I haven't been into any of SF yet, but I've always been confused about the Underfoot. Is what we're encountering within the Hole, the Plane of Underfoot, just a section of it, or is it just underground and that's what we call the Underfoot in Norrath? Just looking for clarification</p></blockquote><p>As I understand it:</p><p>The Plane of Underfoot is a bona fide plane much like Plane of Fear, Plane of Hate, etc., are, with its own portal and everything. Plane of Underfoot is ruled by Brell Serilis, the Duke of Below.</p><p>As luck would have it, when the Hole was created during the original Erudin/Paineel civil war (which occured before EQ1 began), it blasted open a path to the portal, and basically allowed unfettered access to the plane. For reasons unknown it was subsequently sealed up. Much of the ruins of the Hole are ruins of Old Paineel, as the Paineel Erudites at the time had taken up subterranean residence prior to the original explosion that created the Hole.</p><p>In the most recent EQ expansion Everquest Underfoot, the entire expansion takes place in the Plane of Underfoot, with the Hole as its main point of entry. For reasons that <em>are</em> explained, but I'm not knowledgeable about, the seal to Underfoot is breached, which allows access in and out. The Everquest Underfoot expansion is not canon to the EQ2 timeline.</p></blockquote><p>A few minor corrections for you here. It wasn't simply just the creation of the Hole that unleashed the underfoot forces. The Heretics built the original Paineel down at the bottom to hide themselves away from the Erudites. The Hole's creation uncovered many caverns that they found convenient to live in. It was in due time that they discovered the Vault of Living Stone. The Erudites, being the IDIOTS that they are, started experimenting on it in order to try and harness it's energy. That was when they opened up the Plane and Lord Yael's forces came storming out. The skirmishes were small at first, but eventually Old Paineel was overwhelmed  That was when Dartain created the Hatch to seal up the Vault of Living Stone that required him to lock himself up with it to ensure it stayed closed.</p><p>Please note that this lesson in history was not learned by the Erudites. History repeats itself, as there are many examples in Sentinal's Fate that clearly show they're still the same intellectual idiots they are. Some of the problems the Erudites face in SF are the same situations as back then- They're dealing with invading forces that was originally their fault to begin with.</p><p>It wasn't until Ognit Eznertob, that idiot gnome who currently runs the Dreadnever Expedition, tampered with the Hatch in EQlive that Dartain and Yael were both able to return to Norrath.</p>

[Maergoth]

<p>I was under the impression that the Taehric construct was something of Erudite origin that was supposed to suppress the elemental outbreak. It's the boss of the wing completely overrun by elementals in what would be previously Dartain's Fortress. The first thing the construct does is go nuts and start slaughtering elementals. Then it bugs out and targets the city of paineel.</p><p>In EQ1, a gigantic golem was created to combat Yael and was victorious, sealing the door to the underfoot.</p><p>In EQ2 however, Master Yael has been corrupted I think. There was a big problem with the poison elementals deep within the hole and some civil war stuff went on. Yael was reconstructed or sent back to solve it but was corrupted himself. I think that's the text you're left with in the quests down the elemental wing in The Hole.</p>

[Larkverdin]

<p>Ok, so even though they don't call it the 'Plane of Underfoot', are we assuming that the raid zone 'Underfoot Depths' is infact the closest we'll get to the actual Plane? Obviously we don't encounter Brell inside there, so this leads me to think that Underfoot Depths is actually just a small piece of the entire Plane. It's slightly confusing to say the least as to wether or not we're just talking about being deep underground and Master Yael is the first line of defense for the Plane, or if we have actually breached it.</p><p>edit: So I just found this: "What You'll be FightingYou'll encounter many creatures that one would expect to see in the subterranean pathways near the Underfoot."</p><p>This was on The Athenaeum (<a href="http://www.lorelibrary.com/?page=website&wid=120">http://www.lorelibrary.com/?page=website&wid=120</a>) and was said by Timetravelling when he was discussing Underfoot Depths. This here makes me think that the Vault of Living Stone is a kind of first defense "camp" if you will for the entire Plane of Underfoot.</p><p>Also, Mae, on that link above, it says that Master Yael has decided to take the defense of the Plane to the offensive instead of just defensive. He's angry about the near destruction of the Plane by the erudite's who opened the portal into the Void, so he's trying to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's what I gather from it anyway.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>I don't believe Underfoot Depths is part of the Plane of Underfoot, to be honest. But considering that I've never personally set foot in UD, I dunno. All I know is that the Outer Vault (where the Corrupted Guardian of the Seal is) is definitely part of the Hole, and not the Plane of Underfoot.</p>

[Anaogi]

<p><cite>almat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In the most recent EQ expansion Everquest Underfoot, the entire expansion takes place in the Plane of Underfoot, with the Hole as its main point of entry. For reasons that <em>are</em> explained, but I'm not knowledgeable about, the seal to Underfoot is breached, which allows access in and out. The Everquest Underfoot expansion is not canon to the EQ2 timeline.</p></blockquote><p>Umm...are we sure?  During the 'Will of a Tyrant' events on the Qeynos side, the player is questioned if they are the same individual of similar name involved in...the breaching of the Underfoot!  Which is then mentioned to have been at least 500 years in the past, thus rendering it impossible (though a dialogue option is there to imply otherwise...)</p><p>Perhaps there was a parallel event?  Or maybe the timelines diverge later than previously believed...or maybe there just isn't that much difference until later...</p><p>In any event, at least it doesn't give me migraines like that blasted Ewer does.  So unless we're going to say the waters of Fyr'Un dissolved fizzy rocks to reopen the Vault, I think I'm in good stead here... <img src="../images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Banditman]

<p>The Underfoot Depths raid zone is nothing more than The Hole with raid mobs in it.  There is no new art at all, and no indications whatsoever that you are in any way in a Plane.</p><p>I think the best way to describe it, from a Lore perspective might be that Underfoot Depths is the result, over time, of the failure of the seal which held the Plane of Underfoot at bay.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Anaogi@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>almat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In the most recent EQ expansion Everquest Underfoot, the entire expansion takes place in the Plane of Underfoot, with the Hole as its main point of entry. For reasons that <em>are</em> explained, but I'm not knowledgeable about, the seal to Underfoot is breached, which allows access in and out. The Everquest Underfoot expansion is not canon to the EQ2 timeline.</p></blockquote><p>Umm...are we sure?  During the 'Will of a Tyrant' events on the Qeynos side, the player is questioned if they are the same individual of similar name involved in...the breaching of the Underfoot!  Which is then mentioned to have been at least 500 years in the past, thus rendering it impossible (though a dialogue option is there to imply otherwise...)</p><p>Perhaps there was a parallel event?  Or maybe the timelines diverge later than previously believed...or maybe there just isn't that much difference until later...</p><p>In any event, at least it doesn't give me migraines like that blasted Ewer does.  So unless we're going to say the waters of Fyr'Un dissolved fizzy rocks to reopen the Vault, I think I'm in good stead here... <img src="../images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Nothing after the Legacy of Ykesha in EQlive is canon to EQ2's storyline. There are parallel events that have happened, but they're explained in their own ways with enough detail to tell that it didn't come from any expansion from EQlive after that point.</p>