new moving crates capacity ... and books

[Llogwey]

<p>I can't see any other thread talking abotu this problem but I made a little experience.</p><p>in my house I have 800 counting items + approximatly 300 Not-counting items (I collect books...) for a total of approximatly "1100 total items" I tried to put a book in the moving crate...</p><p>Indeed still 800 items and 299 not-counting ones... but the moving crate has a FIXED capacity of 800.. and the book DOES count in those 800....</p><p>How will this be handled if I try to move to a new house? since the crate counts "everything" and it is limited to 800, not checking if an item is counting or not...</p><p>Not to mention no house has 800 items at the beginning, it requires an expander... which won't be there the first time you buy/get your new house...</p><p>That will be a problem... Did I miss something? I can't imagine storing 300 items by myself in my banks or inventory for the time of the transfer... It would require a mule character at least...</p>

[Aurel]

<p>We were just wondering this in Homeshow channel last night!  I am VERY curious to know the answer to this, so I hope someone can shed some light!</p><p>Also, I wonder what happens if you put your, say, 500 items in the house, then 500 items in the moving crate, and load a layout that takes the items out of the moving crate?  What does it do?</p>

[Avirodar]

<p>Should log in on test, with a test copied character, and find out?</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>If you move, all of the items SHOULD end up in your moving crate in the new house, even if the item count goes above the crate limit.  However, you shouldn't be allowed to place any more items until you get under the max count for the house.</p><p>As far as loading layouts, items will only be moved out of the crate if there is room to place them.  So if you have 500 in the house and 500 in the crate, you can load a layout that swaps items, but you cannot end up with more than 500 in the house when its done.</p>

[Aurel]

<p>Hmmm, so it sounds like a complicated little book shuffle...</p><p>I wonder if Xi is still on test copy!  She has 750 books in a little tiny inn room...</p><p>Also, glad that you guys already planned for the layout thing!!</p><p>Thanks Rothgar!</p><p>[EDIT]</p><p>Okay, Xixi has 750 books in a 200 limit (none of them count).  Hit "pack contents" and only 200 went into a moving crate.  So unfortunately, moving crates don't care whether books count or not!  Yikes!</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you move, all of the items SHOULD end up in your moving crate in the new house, even if the item count goes above the crate limit.  However, you shouldn't be allowed to place any more items until you get under the max count for the house.</p><p>As far as loading layouts, items will only be moved out of the crate if there is room to place them.  So if you have 500 in the house and 500 in the crate, you can load a layout that swaps items, but you cannot end up with more than 500 in the house when its done.</p></blockquote><p>With the patch notes saying that we can't move if the house we move into has less room (if house & crate are full) than the current house, what happens if:</p><p>- I'm in a manor with an expander and everything is full (800 items in house, 800 in crate)</p><p>- I wan't to move to another manor (7 vet reward for example) which, of course, doesn't have an expander, so 700/700 ?</p><p>Does the moving takes into account the fact that my current home is 700/700 (and forgets about the additionnal 200) and allows me to move or does it believe I'm downgrading my home ?</p><p>I suppose, according to your post, that if I'm in a manor with 700 items in house + 200 books + 700 items in crate it works.</p><p>Aurelis, did you try moving from your T2 to a T3? to see if it lets you buy the new house?</p><p>EDIT: I'm talking about this line in the patch notes :</p><p><strong>PLAYER HOUSING</strong></p><ul><li>You will not be able to purchase and move into a new house if the total number of items you are bringing (old house item count + number of items in old moving crate) is more than the total number of items the new house can hold (new house item limit + new house crate limit).</li></ul>

[Aurel]

<p>I didn't do any house-movin', nopers... Xi has 0 moneys on her.  I just goofed with packing contents and loading layouts!</p>

[Ceeamee]

<p>ACK!  I noticed a while ago that the crate counted books, but not being able to pack more in the crate for moving is going to be a big problem.  I currently have loads of books.  Thankfully, I'm not planning on moving anytime soon.  But when I do, that may be a pretty big problem.</p>

[Catria]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you move, all of the items SHOULD end up in your moving crate in the new house, even if the item count goes above the crate limit.  However, you shouldn't be allowed to place any more items until you get under the max count for the house.</p><p>As far as loading layouts, items will only be moved out of the crate if there is room to place them.  So if you have 500 in the house and 500 in the crate, you can load a layout that swaps items, but you cannot end up with more than 500 in the house when its done.</p></blockquote><p>Okay, there is a problem I am seeing here, and being about 30 days short of getting the 7-yr vet housing I am concerned about this...</p><p>If I have say 500 items in my house, and 500 in my crate and I move, then there will be 1000 items in the crate which is over the limit.  (unless I use two expanders, but for the sake of this discussion, we will not consider that option)</p><p>When I move, with 1000 items in the crate, I will not be allowed to place items until the crate is back below the limit of 700, but I can't put anything down in the house either, so am I going to be forced to drag stuff out of my crate into my bags, tote it off to an alt's house to store it, and go back and repeat until I get to the point where I can place items in my house again?</p><p>If this is the case, it totally defeats the original purpose of the moving crate.  I'm happy about the storage space and crate items not counting to house limit, but this is going to be a royal pain.</p><p>*edit*  Wanted to add that I think it would be better if you were simply not allowed to place anymore items in the crate until you get it back below the limit.  Make it work like the broker boxes do when you move to a house that has less broker slots.</p>

[Aurel]

<p><cite>Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If this is the case, it totally defeats the original purpose of the moving crate.  I'm happy about the storage space and crate items not counting to house limit, but this is going to be a royal pain.</p></blockquote><p>*giggle*   *nod*  That would make it more of a "Storage Crate" than a "Moving Crate"!</p>