Heroes' Festival 2010 bugs and feedback

[Kaitheel]

<p>Heroes' Festival has been activated on Test and Test Copy!</p><p>The Heroes' Festival has begun! A call has gone out to all Norrathian adventurers to commemorate the six years of questing, raiding, tradeskilling, house decorating and socializing. Celebrators, happy to share in the festivities, can be found in North and South Qeynos or West and North Freeport.</p><p>You may spot some odd things, due to the overlap of both the Nights of the Dead and Heros' Festival running at the same time, right now.  But keep in mind that this will not be the case when it goes live.  Currently, the event is scheduled to run on live servers, 11/19/10 through 11/30/10.</p><p>If you have any feedback or bugs, please post it in this thread so that we will be sure to see it.  Thank you!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Alenna]

<p>Nevermind</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>Ooo! I was hoping this festival would return! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Going to check it out on Test now!</p>

[Soresha]

<p>Well you need to decide how to spell Heroes' I think. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I put in a /typo for the subject line of the ingame mail. Heading off to look!</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>Ok just to make sure I'm not missing anything:</p><p>1. Firework quest is back and repeatable (just did it, works fine)2. Shattered Remains can be done once again by going to Thumore (I assume the full series if you haven't done it before?)3. I found 2 new quests in North Qeynos, still need to run them4. 5th anniversary paintings did not make a return? (*pout* hehe)5. You mentioned South Qeynos in your OP, but I'm not finding anything that starts there</p><p>Also, like mentioned above, the word should be spelled "Heroes" not "Heros". <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Will be running the new quests soon here!</p>

[Loendar]

<p>I get the impression that Heros' (with the '<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> might be indicating a person by that name (in honor of, maybe?) instead of a misspelling.</p><p>But I've been wrong before.</p>

[Soresha]

<p>Good stuff so far! Just a couple of little comments, not meaning to nitpick but you did ask for feedback. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>The ingame mail says celebrators are in North and South Qeynos. Well I happened to head off to South Qeynos first and was a little confused. As far as I could tell there aren't any celebrator NPCs in South Qeynos? Only shinies and quest updates in there, the NPCs to start everything are in North Qeynos (which is where I tried going next).</p><p>I actually found celebrating NPCs in New Halas first, but they don't seem to do anything, or say anything helpful when hailed. That's a little confusing, until you find the mail.</p><p>For "Missing Decorations in Qeynos" the 4th location in the list, behind the stables, had a couple of us stuck for awhile. The others are all on roads and such and are pretty obvious when you run across them, but that one is hidden away behind a building. Why decorate a gloomy spot at the back of a building anyway?</p>

[Tyrus Dracofire]

<p>please bring back paintings from last year, maybe in different frames that we all know 5th yr is unique set, then rest of others are not originals. how simple is that???</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>The inventory item "pack of magical paper lanterns" was not removed when I completed Missing Decorations in Qeynos.</p><p>Aggressive Advertising in Qeynos - it's using up one of the fliers when you hit a repeat person, could this be changed to not use a flier?</p><p>Just noticed this--after finishing the Qeynos Band Aid quest, the band members are all there playing their instruments. However, Gustave Roberts and Susan Stout are there twice.</p><p>Shattered Remains - in "A Memory of Sand" currently with a level 85, the mobs are level 80. This was the only instance with that problem.</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well you need to decide how to spell Heroes' I think. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>I put in a /typo for the subject line of the ingame mail. Heading off to look!</p></blockquote><p>D'oh!  Yup correction needed.</p><p>Thank you!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well you need to decide how to spell Heroes' I think. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>I put in a /typo for the subject line of the ingame mail. Heading off to look!</p></blockquote><p>D'oh!  Yup correction needed.</p><p>Thank you!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>It's also typoed once in the body of the mail as well. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok just to make sure I'm not missing anything:</p><p>1. Firework quest is back and repeatable (just did it, works fine)2. Shattered Remains can be done once again by going to Thumore (I assume the full series if you haven't done it before?)3. I found 2 new quests in North Qeynos, still need to run them4. 5th anniversary paintings did not make a return? (*pout* hehe)5. You mentioned South Qeynos in your OP, but I'm not finding anything that starts there</p><p>Also, like mentioned above, the word should be spelled "Heroes" not "Heros". <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Will be running the new quests soon here!</p></blockquote><p>1. Good2. You assume correctly.3. Have fun!4. The quest "Shattered Remains" still offers it's original rewards (5th anniversary painting & statue) but only for your first completion.5. May not start there, but the event does send you there.  This is the same as North freeport.  Seems confusing.  The mail should be edited, I agree.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>4. The quest "Shattered Remains" still offers it's original rewards (5th anniversary painting & statue) but only for your first completion.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Oops, guess I should've clarified--by "anniversary paintings" I was referring to last year's forum challenge runner-up paintings that were only on city merchant's for the brief week that the Heroes' Festival was. Many decorators (myself included) were really hoping they'd return somehow so I was trying to puppy-dog-eye you into thinking about it! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Bhagpuss]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>4. The quest "Shattered Remains" still offers it's original rewards (5th anniversary painting & statue) but only for your first completion.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Oops, guess I should've clarified--by "anniversary paintings" I was referring to last year's forum challenge runner-up paintings that were only on city merchant's for the brief week that the Heroes' Festival was. Many decorators (myself included) were really hoping they'd return somehow so I was trying to puppy-dog-eye you into thinking about it! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I'd really love it if you could do something about those frames. A simple frame without the flashing, garish flourish at the top would be so much nicer.</p>

[Soresha]

<p>Ok I finished Shattered Remains now. Just one confusing bit:</p> <p>For the Unrest instance, Thumore talks about finding the shard within the maze so I spent ages looking around the actual maze. Then I thought "omg do I have to repeat the entire Unrest instance to get the shard?" Then another tester tipped me off to go to the graveyard.</p><p>I know this quest isn't new this year, but this step could use a little tweaking for people who aren't simply re-running it from memory. It's a rather open, "free to roam" instance compared to the others, and the text in the quest window doesn't give any help to narrow down an area. Worse is that the dialogue on the NPC (I even went back to re-read it looking for a clue) is just misleading!</p><p>Thumore also talks about you having found it within the maze when you take the shard back to him too. If he felt like saying something along the lines of "amongst the graves" instead, that would be a little more helpful of him. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">If you did Thumore's Quest last Hero's Festival you seem to bypass the original quest-giver (Who has no idea who Thumore is just like after you finished the quest last time) and got to Thumore himself. </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I have no problem with that, I do wish that Thumore would remember you from last time, and have at least alternate dialogue for those who have returned.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Possibly even a part two?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">While I like the quest for the party favors, Gnolls as the party crashers? Sure there is a History...but also the Brell Quest-line back before Faydark makes me wonder if the Dwarves and the Gnolls have been having peace talks on behalf of Antonia and Qeynos. </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Orcs I can see.</span></p>

[Soresha]

<p>Found another bug:</p><p>The "Qeynos Heroes's Festival Band Flier" says it can be sold as a status item, it has the usual status item text on it. But the status NPCs won't buy it, at least the one in New Halas won't. Mistress Thora <Purveyor of Artifacts> is where I usually go to sell all my status loot items.</p>

[Lantana]

<p>There is a misspelling in the Qeynos Band Aid update : Knock some <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>sence</strong></span> into Gimit.    The correct spelling is <strong>sense</strong>.</p>

[Kamimura]

<p>Qeynos Band Aid: Grimit says he'll mark the spot to meet him on your map, but nothing ever showed up on my map, no waypoint trail either.</p>

[irish]

<p>Is it intended that there is no reward for repeating the quests 5 times this year, like the ro candle and royal scroll house items last year?</p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>Nevissa@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Qeynos Band Aid: Grimit says he'll mark the spot to meet him on your map, but nothing ever showed up on my map, no waypoint trail either.</p></blockquote><p>I was wondering if I was the only one having a problem with that one. On one of my characters, I went into the bank and it auto updated but I never saw or fought the guy. The other character has never seen him at all and no update. I also could not turn in the page to an NPC on the one I did get it on.</p>

[ChrisMarchant]

<p>As to the drunk dwarf, I get the usual blue spot onmy large map, that tells me where to go for the fight, but I had other Guild members who weren't getting that.</p><p>Will there be an extra reward for repeating quests 5 times, as I notice that the new Decorations one, and the band one are also repeatable. However some testers are saying that they've repeated the repeatable quests more than five times and have not got the extra reward, is that intentional, or are the multiple rewards broken.</p>

[ChrisMarchant]

<p>Please can the Ro's candles, box of decorations, fliers, etc be removed from our inventories once the quest is finished, I have 2 boxes of candles and decorations, and as quests are repeatable will end up with more.</p><p>Also there seems to be some problems with the first set of decorations in Freeport, I have 2 chars who can't find the green sparklie point in W freeport.</p><p>I don't know if this is related to the notd stuff being on same point or not, but help would be appreciated.</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p>Heyya everyone!</p><p>Thanks again for testing another event so thoroughly!  I wanted to let you know that many changes and adjustments have been made due to your feedback and reports, but it may be a while before you see them due to the update tomorrow.  Never-the-less, I wanted to let you know of some of the more noticeable changes coming (sometime).</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">Heroes' Festival* The in-game mail announcing Heroes' Festival now says celebrators are in North Qeynos and West Freeport.* For the quest "Shattered Remains" the zone "A Memory of Sand" now scales above 80.* The item "pack of magical paper lanterns" are now removed when you complete the quest "Missing Decorations in ..."* The "Heroes's Festival Band Flier" no longer claims to be a status item.* Two copies of Susan Stout and Gustave Roberts will no longer appear at the same time while on or have completed the "Band Aid" quests.* The quests "Band Aid" second step in the journal now says "knock some sense".* Gimit now gives a bit more direction as to where to meet him for the fight during the "Band Aid" quests, if you speak with him again.* Those on the correct stage of the "Band Aid" quests should now get quest credit for Gimit's defeat even if he is slain by a pet or a fellow group member.</p><p>Thank you, again!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>ChrisMarchant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Will there be an extra reward for repeating quests 5 times, as I notice that the new Decorations one, and the band one are also repeatable. However some testers are saying that they've repeated the repeatable quests more than five times and have not got the extra reward, is that intentional, or are the multiple rewards broken.</p></blockquote><p>Here's the run down:</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">“Festive Flames in …” (fireworks) quests – repeatable w/ extra rewards at 5x, 10x, 15x, 20x, 25x.“Missing Decorations in …” quests – repeatable“Aggressive Advertising in …” quests – repeatable“… Band Aid” quests – Not repeatable</p><p>Anyone that is not obtaining something extra when completing “Festive Flames in …” means that they must have completed the quest more than 25 times last year, as the count does not start over each year, but is cumulative.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[irish]

<p>I can guarantee the festive flames repeatable reward is not working ,i have done it 7 time so far with no extra reward on a character that started with new halas.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Hello,</p><p>Haven't tried the repeatable part (but as I did it last year, I will not get anything from my 5th time).</p><p>I'm one of those with no blue dot on the map. I'll try again after the next patch on another char. I must say that I'm using an old EQ2 map, gotten just after SF. So I have the old mini-map interface and I don't support the green areas in starting zones either I think.</p><p>Someone went with me and showed me the spots where the dwarf had been seen and I finally found it.</p><p>mmmh...</p><p>So... on the topic of those paintings that were on the city merchant last year? Could we get those back pretty please? And drop the guild requirement? *sends cookies*</p>

[Flara]

<p>I've done the Ro Candle quest on multiple characters this year and haven't gotten any house item or reward from them, exept the choice of food or drink.  One was very recently created.  Has done it ten times, and no other reward. </p><p>Just thought I'd mention it.  As far as I've been able to hear, no one I've talked to has seen a reward for this quest this year.</p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ChrisMarchant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Will there be an extra reward for repeating quests 5 times, as I notice that the new Decorations one, and the band one are also repeatable. However some testers are saying that they've repeated the repeatable quests more than five times and have not got the extra reward, is that intentional, or are the multiple rewards broken.</p></blockquote><p>Here's the run down:</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">“Festive Flames in …” (fireworks) quests – repeatable w/ extra rewards at 5x, 10x, 15x, 20x, 25x.“Missing Decorations in …” quests – repeatable“Aggressive Advertising in …” quests – repeatable“… Band Aid” quests – Not repeatable</p><p><strong>Anyone that is not obtaining something extra when completing “Festive Flames in …” means that they must have completed the quest more than 25 times last year, as the count does not start over each year, but is cumulative.</strong></p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>I don't know whether to cry or cheer ... </p><p>You do realize that some (crazy & masochistic) players did actually do more than 5/10/15/20/25 flames last year in an attempt to find the hidden prizes.  Those people will be upset about not being able to get said prizes if you did actually put in new ones this year.  </p><p>I'm happy that it's cumulative since that means even if you hid an uber prize at 25 repeat I'd be able to get there without having to drive a stake through my brain in 1 sitting and could instead eventually get it in 5 years .. or really 4 years for my accounts.  With the exception of my Main who I ran it through 10x before screaming at the monitor and cursing your name for receiving diddly squat ...</p><p>Can you make the Quest giver a Vendor as well and put the prize(s?) on her to be buyable after that certain run#.  Though, if it's just the same Fireworks house item .. be nice if we could just skip the whole 'repeat until we are drooling monkeys in a cage for your evil pleasure' scenario and just allow for endless purchasing after 5th run. </p><p>And, you don't say exactly if there are other rewards to acquire on the other repeatable quests but frankly the same goes for them if you did.  </p><p>Very personal opinion:</p><p><em>I don't know about everyone else in game but repeating the exact same <span style="text-decoration: underline;">limited</span> quest over 5x per character to get any kind of special reward is about as much fun as actually trying to drive that stake through my skull.   If the reward was every time and I could choose when I was happy with my reward amounts .. maybe .. but when we don't even get the reward till the 5th / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 time?!   That just pisses me off and makes me think you guys don't value MY game time for reward vs effort and that you guys are just lazy for putting in such quick & easy Quest looping. *shrug* *sadpanda*</em></p><p><em> I think I say this every time you guys (meaning ALL devs, 'cause Domino gave us two for Tinkerfest!) bring out a hidden reward quest for a repeater and it doesn't seem to do much good.  So apparently I am in the very minority on this one but won't stop me from repeating myself ... These kinds of Live Events (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Time Limited</span>) quests suck [censored]!!!!   </em></p>

[Crymsyn]

<p><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Very personal opinion:<p><em>I don't know about everyone else in game but repeating the exact same <span style="text-decoration: underline;">limited</span> quest over 5x per character to get any kind of special reward is about as much fun as actually trying to drive that stake through my skull.   If the reward was every time and I could choose when I was happy with my reward amounts .. maybe .. but when we don't even get the reward till the 5th / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 time?!   That just pisses me off and makes me think you guys don't value MY game time for reward vs effort and that you guys are just lazy for putting in such quick & easy Quest looping. *shrug* *sadpanda*</em></p><p><em>I think I say this every time you guys (meaning ALL devs, 'cause Domino gave us two for Tinkerfest!) bring out a hidden reward quest for a repeater and it doesn't seem to do much good.  So apparently I am in the very minority on this one but won't stop me from repeating myself ... These kinds of Live Events (<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Time Limited</span>) quests suck [censored]!!!!   </em></p></blockquote><p>This sums up how I feel as well!! I am lucky nowdays if I get in one or two evenings of playtime a week. And to repeat something so time limited many times just eliminates my being able to enjoy any other part of the festival / event. *sigh*</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Hum,</p><p>Could the repeatable be truly repeatable and not with at 2 hours cooldown like last time? If we have to wait 2 hours between each run, it means waiting 50 hours (not counting sleep time) to get the 25x reward. It seems... er... well... you got my meaning</p>

[ChrisMarchant]

<p>I haven't done the repeatables 5 times yet, but I am hearing a lot of complaints about the rewards not being in game, so I'm holding off until I hear that they are in game.</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Flara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've done the Ro Candle quest on multiple characters this year and haven't gotten any house item or reward from them, exept the choice of food or drink.  One was very recently created.  Has done it ten times, and no other reward. </p><p>Just thought I'd mention it.  As far as I've been able to hear, no one I've talked to has seen a reward for this quest this year.</p></blockquote><p>Ack!  There was an issue with it, but it was only with the Qeynos version of the quest... no wonder I missed it.  At any rate, thank you all for helping us identify this issue!  Thanks to you the following issue should be resolved:</p><p style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">* Adventurers completing the quest "Festive Flames in Qeynos" will now successfully get the "Ro Candle" house item on every 5th completion of the quest.</p><p>This fix is on it's way, via the usual QA approval, along with all of the fixes I announced on Monday.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Flara]

<p>Oh goodie and yay!  I always get so tickled when I can contribute in some way. </p><p>I'll let my Freeport character have a run at it today.  It was a Qeynos character who'd done it ten times, and she's willing to do it again to get that candle, though I agree with others that doing for all my alts is probably not going to happen.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>So, hum... will the paintings be back?</p><p>Please say yes!</p><p>And if yes, please remove the guild level requirement from them!</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So, hum... will the paintings be back?</p><p>Please say yes!</p><p>And if yes, please remove the guild level requirement from them!</p></blockquote><p>^---- please say yes! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>On a different note, I was just looking at the dates of the event again, and it looks like server merges might be going on around the same time. Any chance of extending it a few days so even those being merged get the full duration of the event (<em>because I can bet we'll lose a day or two in there!</em>)? If the merges won't interfere then disregard. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Kaitheel]

<p>Heyya everyone!</p><p>Just a warning that I'm going to be deactivating Heroes' Festival on 11/1/10 to make room for Frostfell testing.  The Heroes' Festival will then be reactivated on 11/19/10 and last until 12/1/10.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So, hum... will the paintings be back?</p><p>Please say yes!</p><p>And if yes, please remove the guild level requirement from them!</p></blockquote><p>If I am not mistaken one of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings is available on the city festival merchant, and has been since last year.  But no, the rest of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings will not be back this year.  But on the good side, a different painting contest just concluded and there are more painting contests planned for the future.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Kaitheel]

<blockquote><p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>On a different note, I was just looking at the dates of the event again, and it looks like server merges might be going on around the same time. Any chance of extending it a few days so even those being merged get the full duration of the event (<em>because I can bet we'll lose a day or two in there!</em>)? If the merges won't interfere then disregard. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote></blockquote><p>The timing may coincide with some of them, and if that is the case then I don't have an issue with the dates for those individual servers being adjusted to last a bit longer to make it up.  We'll have to wait and see what happens.</p><p>Thanks for the heads up!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So, hum... will the paintings be back?</p><p>Please say yes!</p><p>And if yes, please remove the guild level requirement from them!</p></blockquote><p>If I am not mistaken one of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings is available on the city festival merchant, and has been since last year.  But no, the rest of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings will not be back this year.  But on the good side, a different painting contest just concluded and there are more painting contests planned for the future.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>The main winner of the 5th year contest is on the City Merchant still (permantely?), the ones on the City Faire merchant are from a different contest. </p><p>Frankly, though I know there are going to be more contests like this and we'll have more opportunties to purchase different paintings of these types, the whole bunch of 5th year contest winners -<strong>should</strong>- come back at least for 1 more time because it didn't make any bloody sense to put them on the City Merchant, with a guild requirement of lvl 20, cost a decent chunk of status and a few gold, if it wasn't going to be STAYING on the City Merchant.</p><p>So a good portion of the population, myself included, just thought the timing for them to be released was to coincide with the Heroes' festival and our birthday celebration but that they'd stay in game to be purchase-able later.   When you had the extra $, Status or the proper guild level.  </p><p>So basically house lovers who couldn't or didn't jump on it right then were shafted due to poor planning and execution! </p><p>The 1st place winner could still have been on the City Merchant, since it was staying but there should have been a Heroes' Merchant that sold the rest and any other pictures of the same theme.   You know pictures of heroes' and Heroic deeds .. etc .. to amazingly coincide with the whole 'Heroes' Festival!'</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>what Kaisha said.</p><p>I bought a bunch on lives because I wasn't sure it would stay and I went on the safe side (and has guild and status to spare). I couldn't buy them on Test because I didn't have the guild and not enough status anyway.</p><p>A lot of unguilded people missed those items, not speaking of those that didn't know the paintings were available or those that thought they would stay or those that just were not there.</p><p>Those paintings were great and it's sad to see new contests staying but this one gone forever <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Oxie]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So, hum... will the paintings be back?</p><p>Please say yes!</p><p>And if yes, please remove the guild level requirement from them!</p></blockquote><p>If I am not mistaken one of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings is available on the city festival merchant, and has been since last year.  But no, the rest of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings will not be back this year.  But on the good side, a different painting contest just concluded and there are more painting contests planned for the future.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>What's the big deal about NOT bringing them back? With the whole new F2P thing starting up, this is another easy way open up a few things for new players to purchase for their houses. A friend who quit soon after DoF came out just now came back to the game and has rerolled his paladin. He's been spending many hours in his new Halas house and is going to town with sprucing it up.</p><p>It's not like you guys have to spend a lot of time, effort, and money into making new items, because they are already done! Why put so much effort into something like this, when you only have things like this for a ONE TIME ONLY EVENT? I can see having them on the merchant during these 2 weeks of the holiday (like you do with other holiday events), but to say "oh no, those were for the 5th Year Anniversary event, and you'll never ever get a chance to buy them again!"</p><p>Just put 'em in game again for the length of the holiday event and make your customers happy versus grumpy and angsty.</p>

[Senya]

<p><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So, hum... will the paintings be back?</p><p>Please say yes!</p><p>And if yes, please remove the guild level requirement from them!</p></blockquote><p>If I am not mistaken one of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings is available on the city festival merchant, and has been since last year.  But no, the rest of the 5 year anniversary contest paintings will not be back this year.  But on the good side, a different painting contest just concluded and there are more painting contests planned for the future.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>The main winner of the 5th year contest is on the City Merchant still (permantely?), the ones on the City Faire merchant are from a different contest. </p><p>Frankly, though I know there are going to be more contests like this and we'll have more opportunties to purchase different paintings of these types, the whole bunch of 5th year contest winners -<strong>should</strong>- come back at least for 1 more time because it didn't make any bloody sense to put them on the City Merchant, with a guild requirement of lvl 20, cost a decent chunk of status and a few gold, if it wasn't going to be STAYING on the City Merchant.</p><p>So a good portion of the population, myself included, just thought the timing for them to be released was to coincide with the Heroes' festival and our birthday celebration but that they'd stay in game to be purchase-able later.   When you had the extra $, Status or the proper guild level.  </p><p>So basically house lovers who couldn't or didn't jump on it right then were shafted due to poor planning and execution! </p><p>The 1st place winner could still have been on the City Merchant, since it was staying but there should have been a Heroes' Merchant that sold the rest and any other pictures of the same theme.   You know pictures of heroes' and Heroic deeds .. etc .. to amazingly coincide with the whole 'Heroes' Festival!'</p></blockquote><p>110% agree with this.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Heyya everyone!</p><p>Just a warning that I'm going to be deactivating Heroes' Festival on 11/1/10 to make room for Frostfell testing.  The Heroes' Festival will then be reactivated on 11/19/10 and last until 12/1/10.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Just to clarify--is the event planning on ending on 11/30 or 12/1? The OP states 11/30. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Here is some additionnal feedback on those.</p><p>I finally rolled my crafting alts through this (I always run events with them but they're undergeared).</p><ul><li>Could we get those repeatables (missing decorations and Ro candles) to be repeatabled and not on a 2 hours cooldown pretty please? At least a 1 hour cooldown or a half hour one would be way better</li><li>The orcs and gnolls are a tad bit too powerfull. Yes, I'm undergeared but I really had to gear up to get them. One arrow down more would be easier. Not a big point anyway.</li><li>Is it intended that the orcs and gnolls are poping when you get close to the crate and then poping a second time after you get the crates?</li><li>You know that the old map system can still be used, it's you (SoE) that give us the possibility to use it? 'cause if you don't have the newer map system that went on with GU57 I think, you won't have the dots for the dwarf, and it's starting to be a real pain to go several times in all the hidden corners of North Freeport and South Qeynos hoping to see this [Removed for Content] dwarf pop. Please, give us the blue dot AND a tracking whisp!</li><li>Please... Could the green sparkle for the missing decorations be a bit less random in an area, I'm always missing one in the end and spend tens of minutes trying to find it.</li></ul>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Ruckus@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote>Just put 'em in game again for the length of the holiday event and make your customers happy versus grumpy and angsty.</blockquote></blockquote><p>Because as I have been told there is a reason, more than design, that we cannot.  This is not a flippant decision on our part.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Heyya everyone!</p><p>Just a warning that I'm going to be deactivating Heroes' Festival on 11/1/10 to make room for Frostfell testing.  The Heroes' Festival will then be reactivated on 11/19/10 and last until 12/1/10.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Just to clarify--is the event planning on ending on 11/30 or 12/1? The OP states 11/30. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>On live it will be deactivated at 11:59 pm PST on 11/30.  It will be deactivated on Test sometime on 12/1 (most likely 8am ish PST), as I stated.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[RandomWalk]

<p><cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The orcs and gnolls are a tad bit too powerfull. Yes, I'm undergeared but I really had to gear up to get them. One arrow down more would be easier. Not a big point anyway.</p></blockquote><p>I ran a couple of my undergeared crafters on Test through these quests and I agree that the gnolls and orcs are a tad too powerful.  I had to run away on more than one occasion.</p><p>Once I knew about the second pop I was ready for the fight and simply ran to the nearest guards who kindly despatched my attackers.</p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ruckus@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote>Just put 'em in game again for the length of the holiday event and make your customers happy versus grumpy and angsty.</blockquote></blockquote><p>Because as I have been told there is a reason, more than design, that we cannot.  This is not a flippant decision on our part.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>hrm .. so a Legal reason? </p><p>Guessing the release the winners signed only stated it would only be released once in game, then?</p><p>Seems strange. I'd have thought SOE would have snapped up the rights to do what they wanted with the property & for as long as they wanted once signed over.  Pretty sure there would have been a clause restricting the winners to not use their winning pictures in any form indefinitely, at the very least.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Heyya everyone!</p><p>Just a warning that I'm going to be deactivating Heroes' Festival on 11/1/10 to make room for Frostfell testing.  The Heroes' Festival will then be reactivated on 11/19/10 and last until 12/1/10.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Just to clarify--is the event planning on ending on 11/30 or 12/1? The OP states 11/30. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>On live it will be deactivated at 11:59 pm PST on 11/30.  It will be deactivated on Test sometime on 12/1 (most likely 8am ish PST), as I stated.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Ohhhhh that makes more sense, thanks very much. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Kaitheel]

<p>Heyya everyone!</p><p>I've got a few more changes headed your way, via the usual QA approval process, of course:</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">Live Events - Heroes' Festival* The decoration stealing gnolls and orcs involved in the "Missing Decorations..." quests within Qeynos and Freeport have been made a bit easier.* Decoration search spots for the "Missing Decorations..." quests within Qeynos and Freeport are now marked on the zone maps.* Firework search locations for the "Festive Flames..." quests within Qeynos and Freeport are now marked on the zone maps.</p><p>I hope these changes help!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>It seems it was patched</p><ul><li>Orcs are perfect now</li><li>Point 2 & 3: sorry but it's a bit useless. We already know those things are in half the zone we're in so we still have to search everywere. And second point IT'S NOT SUPPORTED ON THE OLD MAP SYSTEM either</li></ul>

[Katz]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ruckus@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote>Just put 'em in game again for the length of the holiday event and make your customers happy versus grumpy and angsty.</blockquote></blockquote><p>Because as I have been told there is a reason, more than design, that we cannot.  This is not a flippant decision on our part.</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>So, ask the former winners if they want their paintings permantently available and have a release for them to sign. If they sign, yay, if they don't their paintings sink into oblivion never to be seen again.</p><p>If it were my painting, I would want it available in game.  I guess there could be some other reason, but the only one I can think of is this one.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p><cite>Katz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>So, ask the former winners if they want their paintings permantently available and have a release for them to sign. If they sign, yay, if they don't their paintings sink into oblivion never to be seen again.<p>If it were my painting, I would want it available in game.  I guess there could be some other reason, but the only one I can think of is this one.</p></blockquote><p>I must agree there. It's really disappointing not to have those paintings back <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Tyrus Dracofire]

<p>Boooo! i am not happy with that decision, i did like to get other painting "Humble Beginning".</p><p>i see no reason why they werent added back in, due to limited time, high level requirement to have status, and there wasnt enough time.</p><p>as i have said, that was poorly planned made by SOE staffs by making unfair to unguilded or not met requirement on time.</p><p>if i was CEO of Sony/Eq2, i would extend timer or move them to station or marketplace  to be avialable to painting collectors and house decorators, ending all that "elitist" favorism. that is not acceptable to players who dont have much resources.</p><p>i cant see why i would want to "celebrate" eq2 anniversary without memo sentimental value or happy to own a piece of historical sovieniers. it feel like having no cake for birthday.</p><p>this just hurt morale of players and feel pushed away. real gamers know what gamers likes.</p>

[Tyrus Dracofire]

<p>forgot to add last statement to staff team, if it is players making lot of popular demand because it is favorites, i think it is more healthy to allow rest of paintings to be on limited time or move rest of it on station's marketplace, but maybe in new frames to keep original 5th year as unique, switch to plain frames or engraved.</p><p>just look at those many players wishing it could come true.</p><p>maybe give poll and see numbers of votes.</p><p>please dont let players down and get feel shut away due to factors of limited time, required status points, and huge roadblock required high guild level. no one was able to get from 20 lvl to 80 lvl (last year) in a week or less just to meet requirement to purchase paintings, these shows poor planning by SOE staffs, it not player faults who decided limited time on merchants, it was you folks put on merchants and suddenly yank it out before other players get chance to buy them when they work hard trying.</p>

[Alenna]

<p>wrong thread could have sworn I clicked on the frostfell one.</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>The fliers people throw at you remain in your inventory. = Never caught that on Test Copy since no one else was around. Could they be changed to no-zone so you can get rid of them somehow? aITEM 1678880313 -1953004537:Qeynos Heroes' Festival Band Flier/a and aITEM -1485904415 -1119278829:Freeport Heroes' Festival Band Flier/a are the items in question.</p><p>edit: Swynend Sithenias for the Freeport band quests had no completed quest book over his head when I was done with Aggressive Advertising in Freeport.</p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong>The fliers people throw at you remain in your inventory. = Never caught that on Test Copy since no one else was around. Could they be changed to no-zone so you can get rid of them somehow? aITEM 1678880313 -1953004537:Qeynos Heroes' Festival Band Flier/a and aITEM -1485904415 -1119278829:Freeport Heroes' Festival Band Flier/a are the items in question.</strong></p><p>edit: Swynend Sithenias for the Freeport band quests had no completed quest book over his head when I was done with Aggressive Advertising in Freeport.</p></blockquote><p>That and is it possible to change it so that the fliers recieved this way have a 1/100 chance at being the house item version? </p><p>I didn't even notice on Test that we got the stackable fliers from people.  Probably 'cause Test is so low population and it wasn't as big of a deal just standing around and in my already busy inventory on Test (really need to purge some crap there) didn't notice anything new but on Live I got pelted over 20 times on the walk from the NQ Claymore to the Bank.  It's not a big deal since they stack, just wishing there was a purpose to them other than [deleting] them.</p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p>Seperate post for a different subject ..</p><p>Again .. and I am begging here .. I ask for the Dream Shard (Shattered Remains) quest to be changed! </p><p>Please, PLEASE, change it so that the Void tears in space (whatever they are) are INSIDE the original void zone where you talk to Thumore!  </p><p>1 - I dislike having to zone so many times for a single quest. </p><p><strong>Zone to Thumore, Zone to City, Zone to 1st Dream, Zone to City, Zone to Thumore, Zone to City, Zone to 2nd Dream, Zone to City, Zone to Thumore, Zone to City, Zone to 3rd Dream, Zone to City, Zone to Thumore, Zone to City, Zone to 4th Dream, Zone to City, Zone to Thumore, Zone to City, Zone to 5th Dream, Zone to City, Zone to Thumore, Zone to City</strong></p><p>Woot!  done! rinse & repeat for next character!</p><p>For those that don't want to sit there and count, that's 22 zonings for 1 quest.</p><p>2 - While it's never a big deal on Test on Live, there are lots of Rude and unintentionally Rude people standing around -and- in the Void Tear in the City.  This makes it hard to actually get into the Void at times.  Running 1 character through in Q, yesterday there was an afk Ranger on a horse that was exactly centered in the Void.  Made finding that tiny pixel that actually triggers Zoning a bit on the annoying side.   Similar instance over in FP with my Evil only this time it was a Ogre on a Rhino .. do you know how BIG an Ogre on a Rhino can get?</p><p>It's too late for this year obviously .. just making sure the Devs know I'm not asking for a bloody miracle for this week .. but next year can we please get it so that when you go into meet Thurmore, HE opens up each new Dream Void Tear.  Or, could even add in Void Tears surrounding him.  Make them look like a Cross between Druid Rings & Void Tears, in that they'll have a snap shot of the each Dream and of course the Return to [Q / FP] City inside each of the Void Tears. </p><p>That way we'd only have to <strong>Zone to Thumore, Zone to 1st Dream, Zone to Thumore, Zone to 2nd Dream, Zone to Thumore, Zone to 3rd Dream, Zone to Thumore, Zone to 4th Dream, Zone to Thumore, Zone to 5th Dream, Zone to Thumore, Zone to City!  </strong></p><p>Still a lot of zoning but 12 zones is still much better than 22 zonings!!</p><p>Please & Thank you!</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>On another note, there's a problem with a shiny spawn in South Qeynos, at least on Storms.</p><p>The shiny in front of 5 Erollisi Lane spawns at a spot where the NPC Albrecht Tesilah tends to be. It happened 3 times to me and I had a hard time seing the shiny glowing faintly through the hem of it's robe.</p>