Why the Ninja Nerf on Stoneskin?

[Riggly]

<p>Frankly this is one of my most commonly used abilities. The fact it used to drop a hate position is the whole reason behind it!</p><p>This alone greatly reduces survivability, because simply put that deaggro for 2500 or whatever does absolutely nothing. Explanation of this huge mistake and step backward for Conjurors, would be appreciated.</p><p>-Riggly</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Riggly wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Frankly this is one of my most commonly used abilities. The fact it used to drop a hate position is the whole reason behind it!</p><p>This alone greatly reduces survivability, because simply put that deaggro for 2500 or whatever does absolutely nothing. Explanation of this huge mistake and step backward for Conjurors, would be appreciated.</p></blockquote><p>What are you talking about? It has <em>never</em> dropped us by a hate position; it's always been a threat amount.</p>

[Riggly]

False.

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Riggly wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>False.</blockquote><p>Screenshots taken within the last 4 years, or I don't believe you. It's plausible that at launch it was a hate position (I honestly don't remember), but it was changed years ago to the AoE dehate, and has been an AoE dehate ever since.</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=253085�" target="_blank">Here's patch notes</a> to prove it, dating March 23, 2006, a full 4 and a half years ago.</p>

[Riggly]

Right and it used to drop one Hate position. Some one back me up. lol.

[Banditman]

<p>Never had a hate positional.  In fact, hate positionals (as far as moving down) were something that didn't even exist until after RoK.</p>

[Riggly]

What are you talking about. Slip on the level 43 fabled gloves off contested raid encounters existed from the beginning of the game...

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Riggly wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>What are you talking about. Slip on the level 43 fabled gloves off contested raid encounters existed from the beginning of the game...</blockquote><p>This one I can back you up on. Hate positions have been around since the beginning AFAIK.</p><p>Just not on our self Stoneskin.</p>

[hellfire]

<p>Wasnt hate position....only thing c onj gets for hate position is the  pet aa in stam line  in summoner tree.</p><p>It was changed from a certain amount of hate dropped per hit   to a big lump on ae.</p><p>was like 800 hate per trigger on 3 triggers....but  was awhile ago so now its foggy i might be off on the exact amount but thats the way it worked.</p><p>And yes  position hate effects have been around since the beginning.</p>