Appearance Mounts

[Xalmat]

<p><strong>NEW MOUNT FEATURES!</strong></p><ul><li>It’s now easier to manage your collection of mounts from within the Character Window (C).<ul><li>Mounts can be stored in their own dedicated inventory window and newly acquired mounts will go here automatically (there is a ‘Mount’ tab on the bottom of the Character Window). </li><li>Drag any mount to the “Equipped” or “Appearance” mount slot.  </li><li>Summoning a mount will now use the effects from the Equipped slot but apply the appearance from the Appearance slot. </li><li>There’s a new “Summon Mount” ability in your Knowledge Window as well as the bottom of the ‘Mount’ tab, which may be dragged to your hotbar. </li><li>There are also new achievements to reward you for expanding your collection of mounts! </li><li>To better display the name and type of mounts that will be appearing in the mount window, many of the items have been renamed to be more concise. </li></ul></li></ul><p>/glee</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p>That is simply awesome!  Thank you!</p>

[Klive]

<p>Finally!</p>

[Dreadpatch]

WIN

[denmom]

<p>LoL, nice!</p><p>I'm amused tho, I've been using an appearance mount, of sorts, on my Swash for months.  If the toon ran faster than the mount equipped, the toon's speed would be used rather than the mount's. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I'm going to be so amused using the LoN rhino my Swash has in appearance when she gets the flying mounts with Velious.  Flying rhinos!</p>

[kcirrot]

<p>WOOT!!! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Looker1010]

<p>Amazing and oh so rare - an event with only positive feedback. Something almost never seen on these forums.</p><p>Yay!!</p>

[NrthnStar5]

<p>Extremely happy about this. I've wanted them to create a special mount area for a while now, and appearance mounts will just rock.</p>

[Barbarosa_Rex]

<p>WOOT!!! at last..<strong> thanks!!!!</strong></p>

[Chiyoiche]

<p><span style="color: #800080;"><span style="font-size: xx-large;"><strong>YAY!YAY!YAY!YAY!YAY!YAY!</strong></span></span></p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" /><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[NrthnStar5]

<p>While you are paying attention to mounts, any chance you can make mounts pitch with the terrain? Looks terrible to have your mounts head in the ground as you are running up a steep incline.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Here's the mount window, using the Default UI:</p><p><img src="http://www.mattcrews.com/images/eq2/mount-window.jpg" /></p><p>One important thing to note, any mount you purchase automatically goes into the Mount Window and not your primary inventory slot. You can directly convert your mounts to house items via the mount window and they will go into your inventory when you do. Turning them back into rideable mounts puts them back in your mount window. You <em>can</em> manually drag them out of your mount window and into inventory, if you wish.</p><p>Changing out your equipped and appearance mounts doesn't actually affect the mount until you recast. Just a heads up on that.</p>

[Dreyco]

<p>I /bugged an issue with the new "Mount Macro" that one can use from the in-game interface.  It doesn't summon a mount, even with a mount placed in both equipped and appearance.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>There's also a bug with the new Achievement. Discovering the furniture version of a mount as well as the rideable version counts as discovering two mounts.</p>

[Besual]

<p>Duke Nukem Forever is coming, appearance  slots for mounts, purchasable character slots... Looks like someone turned off the heater in hell (aka hell is freezing over) <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Ironcleaver]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong>NEW MOUNT FEATURES!</strong></p><ul><li>There are also new achievements to reward you for expanding your collection of mounts! </li></ul></blockquote><p>I got the "Stable hand" Achievement for purchasing the "Celebrations of the Dead III" Book.</p>

[Avianna]

<p>/imitates the snoopy happy dance! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[MurFalad]

<p>I really like the sound of this, the solution sounds elegant and I like the tie in with the achievements, I will have to give this a go on test.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p>Appart from the little bugs already brought to your attention, it's a PERFECT feature.</p><p>Thanks a lot !</p>

[snowli]

<p>awesome, only thing I would ask is sometimes I want floating via mounts, sometimes it would be more convenient to have floating off, but because you can't summon inside it's isn't practical to swap.</p><p>Can the summon mount button please work inside zones? even if the mount speed remains turned off inside.</p>

[Kain-UK]

<p>Woo!</p><p>I can finally have my guardian riding his unicorn for the harvesting bonuses, while keeping the apperance of his LoN warg!</p><p>/happy!</p>

[Kamimura]

<p><cite>Besual wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> purchasable character slots...</p></blockquote><p>Wait, what?</p>

[Senya]

<p><cite>Nevissa@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Besual wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> purchasable character slots...</p></blockquote><p>Wait, what?</p></blockquote><p>Coming <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=487665" target="_blank">October 5th</a> we'll be able to buy additional character slots for 1,000sc.  No limit on how many we can buy.  One time charge, permanent slot. I'm so very happy.  With all the love tradeskilling and housing is getting, mount appearance, and extra character slots I totally forgive them for GU57.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Landiin]

Way WAY to much positive responses in this thread! It needs to be locked fast!!! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Dareena]

<p>Yay!!!  I bought my SC cat mount in the hopes that this system would make it live.  Now I can finally use both the mount I need and the mount which I like.</p><p>Is this a sign of an EQ2 apocalypse?</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>When you hover over the empty Equipped and Appearance mount slots, the word "it's" is being used--this should be "its" instead. /typo reported in game.</p><p>Now going to play with the mount slots some more. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>edit: I was given the achievement "Stable Hand" when I converted a mount inside my mount window into a house item. Should also note that I only have 2 mounts on this char and the achievement requires having 5 (I have a few others but they're mounted house items).</p>

[Hirofortis]

<p>Now if only all mounts were hierloom. Twiddles thumbs. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Xierce]

<p>I noticed that if you drag a mount to appearance while you are mounted it doesn't show until you unmount/remount. Not sure if that was intended but it's a point to note.</p>

[Finora]

<p>Loving the mount appearance slot and mount inventory.</p><p>Though my ranger now has the equestrian achievement despite only having 1 or 2 mounts. EVERYTHING seemed to be counting as a mount last night.</p><p>I can NOT wait for this to go live.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Someone asked:</p><p>You cannot have an appearance mount without riding an equipped mount. So if you want the appearance of a mount, you will be forced to ride one.</p><p>Seems like a no-brainer, but thought I'd throw that out there.</p>

[Liral]

<p>Sweet.. this will make a ton of people happy...</p>

[Crymsyn]

<p>yay yay yay! Thanks Devs =D</p>

[slippery]

aITEM 102932550 1962842243:[Djinn Bracelet of the Sky]/a Count as a mount please!

[Soresha]

<p>I love the mount tab, the storage space and having a separate appearance option! So please don't take the following list the wrong way, its feedback, issues and ideas for your consideration. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>1) If you're already on a mount, dragging a different mount onto the <em>equipped </em>slot does not swap it immediately. Would be nice if it could do this, i.e. dismount and trigger the cast to mount the new one. Otherwise when you want to swap equipped mounts (e.g. swap max speed for harvesting bonus) it's a 3 step process. Or can we write macros for it?</p><p>2) Similarly if you're already on a mount, dragging a different mount onto the <em>appearance</em> slot does not immediately swap the graphic. Again would be nice if it could do this, and since it's only for appearance, could you make the graphics swap instantaneous, no casting time required?</p><p>3) A small wording issue for clarity... the slots are called equipped and appearance. The summon ability refers to the equipped mount. The tooltip on the appearance slot avoids using the word "equip". All good so far!</p><p>Then... the right click option on <em>both </em>slots says "unequip". To unequip the equipped mount makes sense. To unequip the appearance mount which we're not describing as being equipped, doesn't. If the option on the appearance slot said something like "remove appearance" it would be more consistent and clearer. (Hmm, did you manage to follow that?)</p><p>4) You can drag 'n' drop mounts into the 2 boxes, but you can't remove them in the same way. You can't pick them back up again out of those boxes. You have to right-click, select option, to remove them. It would be quicker if we could drag 'n' drop the mounts back into the general area above to remove them. This is actually what I find myself trying to do instinctively, and it's a little frustrating that it doesn't work.</p><p>Bizarrely, if you pick up the currently equipped mount from the list above and drop it back into the same list area, it does unequip it - this makes me think the code is there to remove them by drag 'n' drop but the picking up part is missing?</p><p>5) Many mounts have the same icons, so you can't tell at a glance which of your mounts you have in the slots. The buff icons for them can be the same too. When you combine the fact that dropping them into the boxes does not make an immediate change, with the fact that the equipped mount is hidden by an appearance one, it's not immediately obvious what you've got in there. So you have to resort to hovering the mouse over the icons to get the tooltips to read. Ok so the information is there, but it's not immediately accessible. Would it be possible to report the name of the mount in use next to the each box though, so you could see it at a glance?</p><p>6) You can drop the same mount into both equipped and appearance slots. The effect is the same as only putting the mount in the equipped slot and leaving the appearance slot empty. Not the end of the world, but I'm wondering about clarity again. Having two ways to set up the same thing isn't ideal. (Plus factor in the point above about not being able to tell at a glance what the mounts in the boxes actually are.) Could you code it to empty the appearance box if this situation is created by the player as they are dragging 'n' dropping different mounts around?</p><p>7) If you get a new mount (e.g. from claim or marketplace) which is attunable, it goes into the list in the character window, but isn't attuned. This is all good, you might have got it on the wrong character by mistake. However if you want to use the mount and drop it into the equipped box, the summon mount ability then complains that it's not attuned.</p><p>At this point it's not entirely intuitive that you have to drag the mount from the list back to the inventory, equip it into a charm slot, unequip it back to the inventory, drag it back into the character window. It would be better if dropping it onto the equipped box brought up the "Do you want to attune this?" dialogue box!</p><p>8.) Related to 7), an unattuned mount can be dropped into the appearance slot without ever attuning it - and it does replace your equipped mount's appearance. Mini exploit there perhaps or intended?</p><p>9) Is there any point having mounts optionally equipable in charm slots any more? I'm thinking that with this lovely new mount tab perhaps you've not gone far enough, and separating mounts from charms is the next step.</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">- Any stat bonuses on mounts aren't being applied from having them equipped in charm slots, only when mount is summoned.</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">- We don't need the charm slots to store the mounts.</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">- When you mouse over a mount it compares it to your equipped charms - but you're really not comparing like with like. So that's just confusing, not helpful at all.</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;">- Of course if you can't equip them in charm slots, you'd need to have another mechanism for attuning them - that goes back to point 7).</p><p>10) Related to 9), if you mouse over a mount (e.g. in inventory, quest description, marketplace, claim, etc.) what we reeeeally want now is for it to compare that new (or potential) mount to whatever's in your equipped mount slot.</p><p>Now please don't kill me for writing all that!</p><p>- Soresha</p><p><span style="font-size: xx-small;">Edit: when will I learn not to write "8 )" in my feedback lists lol</span></p>

[Xalmat]

<p>I can agree with everything above, except:</p><p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Any stat bonuses on mounts aren't being applied from having them equipped in charm slots, only when mount is summoned. And we don't need the charm slots to store the mounts.</blockquote><p>This has always been the case. You need to summon the mount to gain the stats it grants. Equipping a mount in your charm slot has never granted stats, unless for some reason the <em>item</em> used to summon the mount grants stats (of which there are maybe one or two items like that?)</p>

[Soresha]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I can agree with everything above, except:</p><p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Any stat bonuses on mounts aren't being applied from having them equipped in charm slots, only when mount is summoned. And we don't need the charm slots to store the mounts.</blockquote><p>This has always been the case. You need to summon the mount to gain the stats it grants. Equipping a mount in your charm slot has never granted stats, unless for some reason the <em>item</em> used to summon the mount grants stats (of which there are maybe one or two items like that?)</p></blockquote><p>Yes indeed. I think you missed my point here, that's part of my argument for why maybe they don't need to be using charm slots.</p><p>Maybe using multiple paragraphs inside list items isn't the best idea, I'll reformat it.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Yes indeed. I think you missed my point here, that's part of my argument for why maybe they don't need to be using charm slots.</blockquote><p>The reason mounts are "Charm (optional)" is a mechanics reason. You'll notice that even consumables like potions are "Charm (optional)". It's necessary that they be Charm (optional) in order to use them from your inventory.</p><p>You can still summon a mount the old fashioned way if you wish. All the "Summon Mount" ability does is provide an alternate way of doing so. Instead of having to hotkey the specific mount and using it from inventory, you just hotkey the ability instead.</p>

[Cynith]

<p>I would have been excited about this a few months ago but then they went and made it so you could turn all mounts off from your view. A lot of people I know have already turned mounts completely off via the options, including myself - an appearance mount means very little to me at this stage unless they pair it with a /showmount or /hidemount feature like they do with the helm and cloak. If they ever implement that, I'll turn my mount viewing back on again. Until then, Norrath is a mountless world for me - I'm glad you paid 2500 SC for that pretty cat or that premium steed - or that flying (insert next expansion mount here) - but I don't have mounts turned on so I can't see it - sorry. **shrug**</p><p>I would love to see people riding on their mounts if they want to show them off, I just prefer to not show or see mine - so my only option is to never see any mount, ever.</p>

[Kamimura]

<p><cite>Senya wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Nevissa@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Besual wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> purchasable character slots...</p></blockquote><p>Wait, what?</p></blockquote><p>Coming <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=487665" target="_blank">October 5th</a> we'll be able to buy additional character slots for 1,000sc.  No limit on how many we can buy.  One time charge, permanent slot. I'm so very happy.  With all the love tradeskilling and housing is getting, mount appearance, and extra character slots I totally forgive them for GU57.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" /> YAY!</p>

[ElsaRat]

<p>I just now saw this. Absolutely fantastic.</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There's also a bug with the new Achievement. Discovering the furniture version of a mount as well as the rideable version counts as discovering two mounts.</p></blockquote><p>This should be fixed with the next update.  Since we had a couple of bugs related to the achievement, the data will be reset when the next update goes out.  You will still receive credit for each mount you have, just not the extra credits for things that aren't mounts.</p>

[Haciv]

<p><cite>slippery wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>aITEM 102932550 1962842243:[Djinn Bracelet of the Sky]/a Count as a mount please!</blockquote><p>QFE</p>

[Seomon]

<p>The mount that I would like to use for appearance is the Paladin fun spell I got almost 6 years ago. Is there a way to make this possible, like changing it to an actual item?</p>

[Cyliena]

<p>Just curious, and I don't have one on Copy to try it out... how does using a charged mount in appearance work? Does it use up a charge when you use the equipped mount?</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>To the poster mentioning the appearance not effecting if you have a mount up, I believe this is intended if I read the notes correctly. The Summon Mount is what creates the objects. At that time it creates the mount with appropriate stats from the equip slot and the appearance of the mount in the appearance slot. Since these are summoned items they wont change dynamically is my guess.</p><p>At the risk of sounding the fanboi . . ."Rothgar, this is an absolutely brilliant solution. Kudos! It is far too long in between threads of a completely positive nature and you deserve accolades and grats for this one."</p><p>Aside from the items already mentioned . . .the function itself works really well.</p><p>I tested charged items such as the mounts from Enchanted Grottos and Tinkered items. When equipped they consume a charge, when placed in appearance you get the appearance and a charge is not consumed. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone else was wondering.</p><p>Nice achievement set for this one btw. Now put one out there a good ways with a super cool looking mount as the reward <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>For those interested in the entire achievement line send me a pm. Dont want to spoil it.</p>

[Maliclipse]

<p>Hey rothgar could we please have the mount page sort of like the station cash page in that if you click on the mount on the right will show it in a examine window? I cant possibly remember what they all look like, Would make it easyier to just click on it and it shows up on the right of it</p>

[Helanor]

<p>Thank you.  This makes me so happy, finally I can get my beloved Nightmares, Charon, Nemesis and Hades out of retirement <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />.</p><p>Now if only cough we could have an pet appearance tab for my Necro and Illy etc and those silly five charge pet illusions changed to unlimited Id be so happy I think I'd faint.  Appearance mounts, gardens.. happy sighs.</p><p>I just need appearance pets and some new dresses, more squishy sofas and curtains and carpets and..</p><p>My niece was laughing at me yesterday said we should just cross EQ2 and The Sims and it would be my perfect game lol.</p>

[Maliclipse]

<p><cite>Helanor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thank you.  This makes me so happy, finally I can get my beloved Nightmares, Charon, Nemesis and Hades out of retirement <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />.</p><p>Now if only cough we could have an pet appearance tab for my Necro and Illy etc and those silly five charge pet illusions changed to unlimited Id be so happy I think I'd faint.  Appearance mounts, gardens.. happy sighs.</p><p>I just need appearance pets and some new dresses, more squishy sofas and curtains and carpets and..</p><p>My niece was laughing at me yesterday said we should just cross EQ2 and The Sims and it would be my perfect game lol.</p></blockquote><p>Dont want to derail the thread but the Five chrage pet illusions are turning into unlimited with this GU also.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Maliclipse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hey rothgar could we please have the mount page sort of like the station cash page in that if you click on the mount on the right will show it in a examine window? I cant possibly remember what they all look like, Would make it easyier to just click on it and it shows up on the right of it</p></blockquote><p>Ctrl + Click brings up the Dressing Room window.</p>

[slippery]

<p><cite>slippery wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>aITEM 102932550 1962842243:[Djinn Bracelet of the Sky]/a Count as a mount please!</blockquote><p>Please. I'd love to be able to use this in the mount window.</p>

[Soresha]

<p>Found another oddity. Some mounts like "Gray Mustang Pack Horse" are sellable (i.e. not flagged with "NO-VALUE"). In the past I had these in a bag set as "contents not for sale" to keep them out of the way in vendor windows.</p><p>Now when I place this mount in the new mounts tab, it's showing up in the vendor's Sell page listing. I can mark the individual item "not for sale", but it's still taking up a space in the list.</p><p>It would be nice if vendor windows ignored the contents of the mounts tab, so they didn't show up at all. No risk of accidentally vendoring a mount. If you really wanted to cash in a mount you could drag it to inventory first, but with unlimited mount storage I doubt many people would actually want to sell them?</p>

[DxPreist1]

<p>YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!</p><p>Now, for the love of all that is good and right, please implement this in Live immediately!!</p>

[Soresha]

<p>Oh ohhh! I had an idea. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Please, please could you make an invisible mount item, which would go in the appearance slot? I.e. to equip and use a mount but not see it. Or put a tick box in the options for "disable appearance of my mount (only)".</p><p>I know, you're going to say "just turn off displaying mounts in the settings". But it's not the same result. I'd like to see <em><strong>my </strong></em>fae "flying" along at high speed flapping her wings, and still be able to see the mounts my friends choose for <strong><em>their </em></strong> appearance. I'd also like other people to see my fae flying along, not for them to see me on a mount.</p><p>I guess it's a roleplay thing and part of how we choose to present our characters. Choosing "no mount" is just as valid as choosing a horse, cloud, cat, carpet, etc. for your appearance mount, isn't it? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>And thank you for all your work on this!</p>

[Sprin]

<p><cite>slippery wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>slippery wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>aITEM 102932550 1962842243:[Djinn Bracelet of the Sky]/a Count as a mount please!</blockquote><p>Please. I'd love to be able to use this in the mount window.</p></blockquote><p>Whats that thing look like? any screenshots of it?</p>

[Anastasie]

<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=347452#3973482">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...=347452#3973482</a></p>