So where exactly "IS" Sundred Frontiers and Stonebrunt Highlands?

[david3009a]

<p>Sorry about the noobie question that this probably is.  I'm guessing if I had played EQ1 I might know this already.  I am just confused as to the geographic location of SF and SB.  On the in game map, it looks like  your looking through a whole in the ground, through some roots.</p><p>I understand that Norrath is a planet, and that the Kingdom of Sky are islands floating high above this planet.  If SF and SB are underground, is Norrath a hollow planet with islands floating around inside it?</p><p>Not sure which way is up anymore! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[shadowscale]

<p>its in the demension known as Ultera. or well more like a place between demesnions. the entire contenet was warped there from norrath due to the erudites messing with telepertation magic and it backfireing.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Sundered Frontier and Stonebrunt Highlands are remnants of what used to be the continent of Odus. Paineel and the Hole correspond with EQ1 Paineel, Kerra Isle corresponds with EQ1 Kerra Isle, Sundered Frontier corresponds with EQ1 Toxxulia Forest, Erudin Palace corresponds with EQ1 Erudin, Stonebrunt Highlands the EQ1 Stonebrunt Mountains.</p>

[Larkverdin]

<p>Just so I can make sure I've got this straight. Odus is no longer part of Norrath, correct? It's floating, vaguely similar to the Overrealm within this other dimension? I haven't reached SF yet, so I'm a little behind</p>

[Larkverdin]

<p>Just so I can make sure I've got this straight. Odus is no longer part of Norrath, correct? It's floating, vaguely similar to the Overrealm within this other dimension? I haven't reached SF yet, so I'm a little behind</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Correct. There is some meta-physical link leading back to Norrath's dimension through the Underfoot, but it's not explained exactly how that may work and it's best for you to just not think of it.</p><p>Otherwise, yes, Odus is in it's own dimension. I must wonder if the Erudites even know that Luclin blew up, because there's no celestial bodies to view, and no day/night cycle. I mean, there is a day/night cycle, but there's barely any illumination changes to tell.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must wonder if the Erudites even know that Luclin blew up, because there's no celestial bodies to view, and no day/night cycle.</p></blockquote><p>I'm pretty sure the ones that returned to Norrath and then returned to Odus spread the word.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Correct. There is some meta-physical link leading back to Norrath's dimension through the Underfoot, but it's not explained exactly how that may work and it's best for you to just not think of it.</p><p>Otherwise, yes, Odus is in it's own dimension. I must wonder if the Erudites even know that Luclin blew up, because there's no celestial bodies to view, and no day/night cycle. I mean, there is a day/night cycle, but there's barely any illumination changes to tell.</p></blockquote><p>Luclin would of blown either as they slipped into Ulteria or after they did. The seas calmed enough for them to travel so they could build the ulteria network AFTER the rending but before the shattering.</p><p>The connection between the reminents of Odus, Norrath, the Underfoot and the Void is a strange one. Odus was pulled from the face of Norrath by the activation of the Farsarian Nexus. The Underfoot remained connected to the reminents of The Hole for some mysterious reason. Without this connection SF and SH would of been pulled into The Void. Instead the Underfoot portal is pulling against the force of the void. Unfortunately this pull means the Underfoot is now trying to consume Odus just as much as the void is. What the euradite scholars say is that while the 2 forces are canceling each other out, if one wins not only will Odus be swallowed by that dimension, but the rest of Norrath will eventually be pulled into that dimension as well.</p><p>So what it really means is we don't have to worry about preventing the void from sucking Norrath in, because the process has already begun...and was thwarted by some gnome messing around in an Euradite civil war.</p><p>Though if the spires were finished and activated, that could tip the ballance in the Voids favor...</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>^ No no, you missed my point. It's very possible that the common residents living on Odus never found out that Luclin blew up.</p><p>Besides. SF lore states that Odus slipped into Ultera at least 50 years before Luclin blew up. The residents acknowledge that it's been at least 100 years since they arrived (which as I've explained in other threads, still doesn't make any sense in terms of the overall timeline). The only theory to match things up is that time moves differently in ultera than it does on Norrath, but nobody entertains the thought of such a theory in-game.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Best way to think of it is a pocket realm that is a crossroads between Norrath, Underfoot and the Void (a Singularity?)</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">My theory of where Odus Used to be is a turbuant sea with a void portal the parts of Odus that didn't get sucked in. (The western part?)  and probably large chunks of Luclin (Remnents of Shar Vahl called home by the law of similarity?)  sticking out of the ocean and the land like daggers int the ground.</span></p>

[iceriven2]

<p>it never rains so i wonder where they replenish there water supply.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>^ Hehe, yeah, especially since there are waterfalls that drain into the ethereal void. Where does that all go and how does it return to the underground water supplies found in the islands?</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>^ Hehe, yeah, especially since there are waterfalls that drain into the ethereal void. Where does that all go and how does it return to the underground water supplies found in the islands?</p></blockquote><p>They obviously employ a lot of Water Elementals from Underfoot.</p>

[Saroc_Luclin]

Well, remember the Hole had cracked open a portal to the Underfoot back when Shar Vahl was blasted to the moon (That's what formed The Hole). It was sealed off, but there's probably metaphysical scar tissue around the seal. That probably made the connection between Norrath and the Underfoot stronger at that point. So when Erudin was blasted sideways, this extra strong connection probably helped keep it anchored (though strained) to the Underfoot, leading to the tug of war we see now.

[Wilde_Night]

<p>We've seen the Quelthulians during the KoS timeline. Some of them even teleport back to Odus in front of you. So some of them know the state of Norrath as it is.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Saroc_Luclin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Well, remember the Hole had cracked open a portal to the Underfoot back when Shar Vahl was blasted to the moon (That's what formed The Hole). It was sealed off, but there's probably metaphysical scar tissue around the seal. That probably made the connection between Norrath and the Underfoot stronger at that point. </blockquote><p>Interesting enough, I believe the Everquest Underfoot expansion (which is not canon to EQ2) actually has the seal to Underfoot breached and broken, allowing free entry and exit. So it makes sense to me that the seal to Underfoot is as much a physical one as it is a metaphysical one.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>^ Hehe, yeah, especially since there are waterfalls that drain into the ethereal void. Where does that all go and how does it return to the underground water supplies found in the islands?</p></blockquote><p>They obviously employ a lot of Water Elementals from Underfoot.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah but what about the islands themselves? You can see the Tower of Serilis from the overland zones if you look down. It's a bit too far to bring water back into the landmasses high up above.</p>

[Lera]

<p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Best way to think of it is a pocket realm that is a crossroads between Norrath, Underfoot and the Void (a Singularity?)</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Odus is in Norrath's pocketses?</span></p>

[Zabjade]

<p><cite>Lera@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Best way to think of it is a pocket realm that is a crossroads between Norrath, Underfoot and the Void (a Singularity?)</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Odus is in Norrath's pocketses?</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Yup, one with a hole in the bottom as well as the top. but is caught in the middle <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p>

[Tyrus Dracofire]

<p>i can try to explain where the water coming from, just a theory in my opinion...</p><p>water were trapped by strange pulls of unnatural cycle form of sphere-like...</p><p>as the water pouring down as waterfalls, water running to bottomless, hotter it is, made the water become steam-like pressure, evaporated up to highest top region of odus's cooliest air, making rain form or mist like coming down to unseen lake or caught in unexplored mountians before making waterfalls.</p><p>as noted for "Underfoot", did you all noticed all those crystals in The Hole? same as earth, deepest layer in cave, and where the crystals and the hotter it gets, lot of moisture in the air, there maybe close to lava region that we dont see in Underfoot.</p><p>water is like it get heavy and becoming lighter than air, possiblity effected by "Kaborite" mutations making everything that defied laws of gravity.</p>

[Saroc_Luclin]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Saroc_Luclin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Well, remember the Hole had cracked open a portal to the Underfoot back when Shar Vahl was blasted to the moon (That's what formed The Hole). It was sealed off, but there's probably metaphysical scar tissue around the seal. That probably made the connection between Norrath and the Underfoot stronger at that point. </blockquote><p>Interesting enough, I believe the Everquest Underfoot expansion (which is not canon to EQ2) actually has the seal to Underfoot breached and broken, allowing free entry and exit. So it makes sense to me that the seal to Underfoot is as much a physical one as it is a metaphysical one.</p></blockquote><p>Yup, the main entrance to Brell's Rest is through that portal at the bottom of the hole. (Sadly they removed falling damage in the Hole to make it easier for people to get there and back. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ).  And right in Brell's Rest (EQLive) is a big pool heated by lava flows that (if you enter the Cooling Chamber zone) cools down as  you go in deeper until it forms a glacier where the Beast is trapped.</p>