Good players 80 - 89

[Verrie77]

<p>Im sure we all have those players that we think WOOT when we see them ending up on our side of the Battlefield.If you like pls fill in with names of players you think are doing their job really well.Im terrible with names so I will fill in my favs when I have time to write their names down on a piece of paper beside me.<span style="font-size: medium; color: #ff0000;"><strong>Tank</strong></span> - what tanks do you know that are good at keeping others on themselves instead of the rest of the team?</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Healer</span></strong></span> - do you know healers that does a good job at healing under pressure, and that gives alot to keep ppl up.</p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;"><strong>Scout</strong></span> - name scouts that are outstanding debuffers and that takes down ppl nice and fast.</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Mage</span></strong></span> - name those mages that can nuke the living ( beep ) out of the other team.</p>

[TwistedFaith]

<p>Any player in full toughness gear, simple as that. It's almost impossible to suck when you have a full set of fabled toughness gear.</p>

[Verrie77]

<p>You can still suck at doing your job. Getting the gear is just a matter of time.</p>

[Rahatmattata]

You'd have to be pretty terrible to suck at playing eq2.

[Wigg]

<p>Just a few to toss out there.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Vaid</strong></span></p><p><strong><span style="color: #339966;">Cayasha,  Cassia,  Ratt</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ffcc00;">Distuurbed, Meela, Pantheron</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Ttornado, Fixx, Hiphoppapotamus.</span></strong></span></p><p>Honestly, not a lot of tanks really stick out in my mind when it comes to actually taunting besides Vaid.  All i know is when i am in his group there is mass death!! =)  Just because someone's name isn't on my list, doesn't mean I don't think highly of you, just too tired to remember more right now.</p>

[Verrie77]

<p><cite>Wigg@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><strong><span style="color: #339966;">Cassia</span></strong></blockquote><p>Havnt seen her in the 80-89 in a long time now, think she lvled onto 90 actually.</p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>Verrie77 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wigg@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><strong><span style="color: #339966;">Cassia</span></strong></blockquote><p>Havnt seen her in the 80-89 in a long time now, think she lvled onto 90 actually.</p></blockquote><p>Hm.. Thought i saw them on a week or two ago.  Oh well, there is sure to be a few more healers out there that are a pain in the butt to kill.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><span style="color: #993366;">Most of the "good" players I've seen were wearing full pvp server armor which more or less nullifies them.  Really only one good player comes to mind and that is Meela.</span></p>

[Moonbaby]

<p>Fixx could kill me in a couple seconds with my mostly MC armor + 2 BG pieces. He's a monster.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p>you need full pvp gear to be a contender but it's not all about the gear.</p><p> i kill players with full naggy gear all the time and they kill me.  it's pretty even using the right spell at the right time can save your butt or kill you if you don't.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you need full pvp gear to be a contender but it's not all about the gear.</p><p> i kill players with full naggy gear all the time and they kill me.  it's pretty even using the right spell at the right time can save your butt or kill you if you don't.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Yes, but when they have full pvp gear AND are as good as you and all you have is BG gear you will have no chance to survive.</span></p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>Vayxx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Fixx could kill me in a couple seconds with my mostly MC armor + 2 BG pieces. He's a monster.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I enjoyed playing against him the other night.  I thought for sure hiphopp was in the match since I had just rifted center and got nuked for a 7k about 3 seconds later...  That doesn't happen to often to my warlock unless someone is in full pvp gear or the SF gear.  And if it was SF gear I would have 1 shot them with rift.  I look forward to playing against that guy some more.</p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Most of the "good" players I've seen were wearing full pvp server armor which more or less nullifies them.  Really only one good player comes to mind and that is Meela.</span></p></blockquote><p>You know to be honest, Meela really isn't as good as they get credit for.  Don't get me wrong, there is damage there, but in the gears that I just did against her, </p><p>Meela had 2 kills 2 killing blows and 6 deaths.  You just have to know how to fight her to win.  *There is almost no toughness which means I can debuff and enhance a plaguebringer and smack her for 9k in 1 shot.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Wigg@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Most of the "good" players I've seen were wearing full pvp server armor which more or less nullifies them.  Really only one good player comes to mind and that is Meela.</span></p></blockquote><p>You know to be honest, Meela really isn't as good as they get credit for.  Don't get me wrong, there is damage there, but in the gears that I just did against her, </p><p>Meela had 2 kills 2 killing blows and 6 deaths.  You just have to know how to fight her to win.  *There is almost no toughness which means I can debuff and enhance a plaguebringer and smack her for 9k in 1 shot.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">I know, I only said they were good; not very good.  Their DPS is crazy high but they aren't too hard to kill. I have beaten Meela plenty of times on 1 vs 1 and I'm a troub with no epic.</span></p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you need full pvp gear to be a contender but it's not all about the gear.</p><p> i kill players with full naggy gear all the time and they kill me.  it's pretty even using the right spell at the right time can save your butt or kill you if you don't.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Yes, but when they have full pvp gear AND are as good as you and all you have is BG gear you will have no chance to survive.</span></p></blockquote><p> not really.</p><p> too many vairables. that's why pvp is fun because it's usually not the same fight twice expet for one shoting ungeard players. </p><p> example,  that thorrino or wahtever lock..   on my healer in gears i witnessed my entire beat on him and not be able to kill him. btw they beat on him for about 5 minutes and i kept them up the entire time with him droping bombs on them.</p><p>  two days later on my wiz i went head on with him and he died.     other times i might die but it could go either way his naggy gear does not grant him the win.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you need full pvp gear to be a contender but it's not all about the gear.</p><p> i kill players with full naggy gear all the time and they kill me.  it's pretty even using the right spell at the right time can save your butt or kill you if you don't.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Yes, but when they have full pvp gear AND are as good as you and all you have is BG gear you will have no chance to survive.</span></p></blockquote><p> not really.</p><p> too many vairables. that's why pvp is fun because it's usually not the same fight twice expet for one shoting ungeard players. </p><p> example,  that thorrino or wahtever lock..   on my healer in gears i witnessed my entire beat on him and not be able to kill him. btw they beat on him for about 5 minutes and i kept them up the entire time with him droping bombs on them.</p><p>  two days later on my wiz i went head on with him and he died.     other times i might die but it could go either way his naggy gear does not grant him the win.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">PvP server armor (at least for the 80s BGs) is FAR better than the BG armor, that is a <em>fact</em>.  This gives PvP players with PvP gear an unfair advantage in BGs.  However that doesn't mean that other variables can't make up for the advantage in gear and allow you to kill a PvP geared player if you are BG geared.  Just because you can sometimes beat someone doesn't mean that the PvP armor isn't much better than the BG armor.</span></p>

[bRz]

<p>Tank- not sure I will have to keep my eye out for them and see who keeps me taunted the most I don't base a tanks ability on their survivability but more if they can keep me from targeting the squishies</p><p>Healer- Kazot, maron, newbzilla are all hard to take down. Plenty of others ill just have to remember their names</p><p>Scouts-  Meela hits hard, Pantheron and Joyz are a threat, rangers are basically scout versions of wizzies. Also,I can certainly remember a couple troubs mezzing me and running away.</p><p>Mages- Helioss plays smart, uses Line of sight and detaunts well. Ceress, she is a beast if Illusionists could do more damage against me she could beat me np, she uses her CC incredibly well. Flame can be a tough fight, he uses his cc wisely and knows to dispell, he is smart enough to snare and run and root and run and come back 20 seconds later to get the jump on me.</p><p>I am sure there are many more and more to come Ill try and update as I see em</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>bRz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Scouts-  Meela hits hard, Pantheron and Joyz are a threat, rangers are basically scout versions of wizzies. <strong>Also,I can certainly remember a couple troubs mezzing me and running away.</strong></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Not me, while I mez you I don't run away. I think I actually killed you once didn't I?</span></p>

[bRz]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>bRz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Scouts-  Meela hits hard, Pantheron and Joyz are a threat, rangers are basically scout versions of wizzies. <strong>Also,I can certainly remember a couple troubs mezzing me and running away.</strong></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Not me, while I mez you I don't run away. I think I actually killed you once didn't I?</span></p></blockquote><p> I am not sure, what is your name? oh and I didn't mean that as a jab I just actually thought it was a good idea, Ill be heading in for the flag or to help someone get it and a troub will mez me just outside while they go kill the other person.</p><p>But yea, what is your game name? not sure I remember anyone named Lethe</p>

[FrostDragon]

<p>Meela and Caress do very well for tower busting and Get votes for using voice chat.   meela is more squishie than joyz but she hides. not tanking with a bow.    Caress is tricky too.     Flames and Hippo of course get votes though the word DUCK  is foreign to them.   TTornado gets big vote for team work again.   again ANTS for team work and Healer SKILL.   Hard to pick a good tank... alot have lvled or switched to nukers.   what seems like a great tank turns out ot be a premade group. </p><p>Skill vote to scout: Meela and joyz</p><p>healer ANTS</p><p>and Caress, TTornado,  and Flame for casters ( they will grab the flag in a ganak.. not just blast away like a maniac midfield)</p><p>Hippo for being the Mini HULK or a 1 man epic x4</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>bRz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>bRz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Scouts-  Meela hits hard, Pantheron and Joyz are a threat, rangers are basically scout versions of wizzies. <strong>Also,I can certainly remember a couple troubs mezzing me and running away.</strong></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Not me, while I mez you I don't run away. I think I actually killed you once didn't I?</span></p></blockquote><p> I am not sure, what is your name? oh and I didn't mean that as a jab I just actually thought it was a good idea, Ill be heading in for the flag or to help someone get it and a troub will mez me just outside while they go kill the other person.</p><p>But yea, what is your game name? not sure I remember anyone named Lethe</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Oh that's what you meant by run away. Yes I have done that many time to people going for the flag, my name is Riya.</span></p>

[Ralpmet]

<p>I'm not healing any of you anymore.</p>

[FrostDragon]

<p>cry PLEEEEEEASE.   I will cast gravitas and song of shield if you will heal me.</p>

[Auxillery]

<p><cite>Verrie77 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Im sure we all have those players that we think WOOT when we see them ending up on our side of the Battlefield.If you like pls fill in with names of players you think are doing their job really well.Im terrible with names so I will fill in my favs when I have time to write their names down on a piece of paper beside me.<span style="color: #ff0000; font-size: medium;"><strong>Tank</strong></span> - what tanks do you know that are good at keeping others on themselves instead of the rest of the team?</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Healer</span></strong></span> - do you know healers that does a good job at healing under pressure, and that gives alot to keep ppl up.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00; font-size: medium;"><strong>Scout</strong></span> - name scouts that are outstanding debuffers and that takes down ppl nice and fast.</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Mage</span></strong></span> - name those mages that can nuke the living ( beep ) out of the other team.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Avek</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">Zachiwardz</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Auxillery</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ttornado</span></p>

[Jeht]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">mathers <span style="color: #ffffff;">(he's so cute too)</span></span></p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>Auxillery@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Verrie77 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Im sure we all have those players that we think WOOT when we see them ending up on our side of the Battlefield.If you like pls fill in with names of players you think are doing their job really well.Im terrible with names so I will fill in my favs when I have time to write their names down on a piece of paper beside me.<span style="color: #ff0000; font-size: medium;"><strong>Tank</strong></span> - what tanks do you know that are good at keeping others on themselves instead of the rest of the team?</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: #008000;">Healer</span></strong></span> - do you know healers that does a good job at healing under pressure, and that gives alot to keep ppl up.</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00; font-size: medium;"><strong>Scout</strong></span> - name scouts that are outstanding debuffers and that takes down ppl nice and fast.</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Mage</span></strong></span> - name those mages that can nuke the living ( beep ) out of the other team.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Avek</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000;">Zachiwardz</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Auxillery</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ttornado</span></p></blockquote><p>Did you really just vote for yourself??  And your sig even shows you as 90...</p>

[Tehom]

<p>Tanks/Healers - hard to remember names, most kind of blend together. You sort of expect tanks and healers to not vaporize, so they tend to be kind of binary good/bad rather than anyone standing out, I think. Ration and Antz kind of come to mind as being notable healers, though.</p><p>Scouts - Meela does a lot of damage, though is very squishy. Pantheron and Joyz are tough, along with assassins like Abiss and Xavkis (sp). Dequi was one of the few people I saw capable of herding cats for smugglers, though she's since leveled to 90.</p><p>Mages - Hippo, Flame, Daisy, Ttornado, and Iceteez all do well as sorcerers. Chaoswraith for coercers, Rize for necros.</p>

[bRz]

<p>Healers- I can't believe I forgot Ants, and I met a pretty strong INQ today named Healz, I forgot what server though.</p><p>Ill be on the look out for a good tank I am sure they are out there, main one I remember is Kcinx but he leveled long ago</p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>bRz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Healers- I can't believe I forgot Ants, and I met a pretty strong INQ today named Healz, I forgot what server though.</p><p>Ill be on the look out for a good tank I am sure they are out there, main one I remember is Kcinx but he leveled long ago</p></blockquote><p>I agree Hip... Can't believe I left off Ants too... Just played a gears last night against a 4 man pre-made from STORMS, a  naggy guild.  Wouldn't have been a hard match if it hadn't been a defiler + Ants...  That was painful with no healer on our team.</p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>Chath@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Tanks/Healers - hard to remember names, most kind of blend together. You sort of expect tanks and healers to not vaporize, so they tend to be kind of binary good/bad rather than anyone standing out, I think. Ration and Antz kind of come to mind as being notable healers, though.</p><p>Scouts - Meela does a lot of damage, though is very squishy. Pantheron and Joyz are tough, along with assassins like Abiss and Xavkis (sp). Dequi was one of the few people I saw capable of herding cats for smugglers, though she's since leveled to 90.</p><p>Mages - Hippo, Flame, Daisy, Ttornado, and Iceteez all do well as sorcerers. Chaoswraith for coercers, Rize for necros.</p></blockquote><p>Who the heck is Iceteez??  Never seen them in BGs.</p>

[Tehom]

<p>Probably plays different times, though I haven't seen her much recently. I think I've only run into you on Helioss once, pretty recently, along with a good assassin named Voodmasterk or something, or I would have mentioned you too. Gears kind of bores me so I usually decline those unless they're the only thing coming up.</p>

[Wolfsight]

<p>Would agree on the people listed so far would love to play against people like helioss more than once every blue moon due to timezones but hey. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Truewolf / Wolfsight</p>

[Xelnok11]

<p>Tanks: Havnt really found any amazing tanks, i remember playing a few games with a pld/sk duo that knew what they were doing and worked really well together but i can't remember their names</p><p>Scouts: Xahviz, Joyz, Meela, Abiss, Kenniiy, Banzay </p><p>Healers: Cassia (havnt seen her in a while), Cayasha, Evefia, Ration (hes good for being a non warden); (Any healer that follows me around and keeps me alive, Keok and Axiym played really well and were amazing at keeping people up but i havnt seen them on recently)</p><p>Mages: Hippo, Ttornado, Daisy, Rize is good for not being a warlock/wizard, Being, although he isnt a super high parser he knows how to use his CC and is annoying to fight against. (freaking warlocks/wizards are so hard to beat dps wise, you guys dont know how hard i try to get my parses as high/higher than yours)</p><p>Chaoswraith, Coercer of Nagafen</p>

[Davngr1]

<p> i spec my wiz for survivability i couln't care less about damage as long as anyone that locks horns with me dies   <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Wigg]

<p><cite>Wolfsight@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Would agree on the people listed so far would love to play against people like helioss more than once every blue moon due to timezones but hey. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Truewolf / Wolfsight</p></blockquote><p>+1 for this guy on the list =P.  Wolf is one nasty ranger!</p>

[Wigg]

<p>Was definantly in one of the most deadly gears groups i have ever been in a second ago.  Me, Bliter, Wolv, and Fucit with 2 healers... I felt bad after because the tanks in BG gear couldn't even jump down.</p>

[eolltz]

<p>you scrubs forgot liesha.  Most of you are to newb to look for a healer during the fight anyway so i'm not surprised he isnt listed.</p>

[Wolfsight]

<p><cite>eolltz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you scrubs forgot liesha.  Most of you are to newb to look for a healer during the fight anyway so i'm not surprised he isnt listed.</p></blockquote><p>Heh I couldn't remember the name at the time but yes Leisha is a good warden and a pain to kill. Calling everyone scrubs is amusing though considering you say everyone is noob and don't look for the healer yet you misspelled the name. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[nastymatt]

<p>It's hard to say who is good and who is not as there is a huge disparity in gear in bg's. I regularly get slapped for 7k with sniper shot.. does it make the player any good? Not really, just geared well.</p><p>My dude is in ghetto gear at the moment.. come 90 he will have a full set of challenger gear and most jewellery etc I won't be a better player but I will "look" better as I won't go down in two hits <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> hopefully.</p><p>I think you only know how good a player is when you play <strong>with </strong>them not against them.</p>

[Verrie77]

<p>I miss some of the really good players in 80-89...I love healing them <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I havnt been online in a long time now. But I guess I will be back when things get more fun in BG's.Was great fun trying to keep as many of my group and 2nd group in Ganak alive and sometime being the only healer. I remember ppl like Chaos and Daisy-somthing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Oh and Atomize somthing...a wizard.Not sure ppl remember me though or know who I played <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But it was alot of fun and I will be back.Had a great time healing Nagafen ppl, some great ppl there.If only I could remember the name of one of the tanks I liked alot...he was great keeping ppl away from me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I think he was an SK..Iksar...defenatly Nagafen.And I f*cking loved one time when another tank and me stood alone at one of the towers in Den...that was some hard work with all the ppl coming running all the time..wave after wave.He was an Ogre Berserker I think.</p>

[Xelnok11]

<p>What are the names of your toons verrie? If you remember me, im sure ill recognize your name.</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Chaoswraith, Coercer of Nagafen</p><p>edited for the stupid smiley that never works for me.</p>

[Verrie77]

<p>Nelfia is my healer.</p>

[NardacMM]

<p>One of the best tanks that come to mind is Brugg.  He's got great surviveability.</p><p>- Deverel</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><span style="color: #993366;">Now pretty much anyone who plays a sorcerer and/or has PvP chest armor and isn't a total idiot.</span></p>

[Xelnok11]

<p>I just leveled my coercer Chaoswraith to level 90, after the update it seems to me they fixed the 90s bgs by making everyone killable which is honestly the only reason i locked at 89 in the first place. </p><p>It was fun playing with you all and massacring the majority of you but its going to be more fun to jump into a more competitive tier. </p><p>Going to miss pre-mades with ttornado and joyz, but everyone that has a twinked out char in the 80s bgs that has enough tokens to gear out characters should just level up to 90 now, there really isnt any point in staying in the 80s unless you enjoy kicking the crap out of undergeared players, which honestly has some appeal, but it gets pretty boring really fast, especially if you dont need to farm tokens anymore. </p><p>Hope to see you all in the 90s bgs!</p><p>Chaoswraith, Coercer of Nagafen</p>

[Wolfsight]

<p>Did the same with Wolfsight and leveled up to 90 since fights now end over fighting for years and not getting anywhere. Been fun playing in the 80 - 89 bracket though so may leave it abit before I level my dirge out of it.</p>