Ghazi question/pondering

[Valdaglerion]

<p>In Kingdom of the Sky, within Bonemire on the Isle of the Ravasect lie the bones of the dragon known as Ghazi. This place is called "Ghazi's Rest". After expending enough effort to acquire the necessary artifacts we are able to summon "Shade of Ghazi" as a contested mob.</p><p>In Sentinel's Fate, in the Stonebrunt Highlands near the city of Quel'Ule we face off against a void army being lead by "Ghazi the Conqueror".</p><p>Is this just a naming coincidence or is there some link between the two?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Probably just a coincidence.</p>

[Wilin]

<p>I would tend to agree with Cusa on this. BUT even so, "Shades" are another part of the vernacular associated with the shadowmen and by extension the void. I don't know that anyone ever determined the lore behind the mysterious cube and the monolithic phylacteries that are used to summon the Shade of Ghazi. I think you had to speak draconic to interact with it, but not positive on that.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>I have been playing with the cube lately. I will have to dig up a toon that doesnt speak Draconic to confirm the need to speak it to interact with the cube.</p><p>While I wouldnt argue it might be a coincidence, I  thought it interesting since the name is unusual. </p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would tend to agree with Cusa on this. BUT even so, "Shades" are another part of the vernacular associated with the shadowmen and by extension the void. I don't know that anyone ever determined the lore behind the mysterious cube and the monolithic phylacteries that are used to summon the Shade of Ghazi. I think you had to speak draconic to interact with it, but not positive on that.</p></blockquote><p>Shade is also a way to refer to a ghost, which is a much better fit than what your alluding to.</p>

[Wilin]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would tend to agree with Cusa on this. BUT even so, "Shades" are another part of the vernacular associated with the shadowmen and by extension the void. I don't know that anyone ever determined the lore behind the mysterious cube and the monolithic phylacteries that are used to summon the Shade of Ghazi. I think you had to speak draconic to interact with it, but not positive on that.</p></blockquote><p>Shade is also a way to refer to a ghost, which is a much better fit than what your alluding to.</p></blockquote><p>I allude to things from time to time that could be interesting, if true. That is because I believe that there is at least a possibility that SOE is alluding to it and I see a possible connection.</p><p>For Ghazi, there are some loose connections based on:</p><p>1) The afore-mentioned identical name</p><p>2) Some ties to in-game graphic assets</p><p>Using the same graphics assets does not verify anything as has been stated before on this forum. But, at the same time, it might be an intentional use of graphics.</p><p>The same graphic used for the mysterious cube can be found on the table in Everling's secret library.</p><p>And the same graphic for the monolithic phylacteries can be found in Chardok used for the Malefific Formation. You have to destroy the formation in chardok and blow the following horns to summon an elemental master(a gazer). The horns are named: Kab, Vul, Uzu, Myr, Zet, Roehn.</p><p>3) And they have used the word Shade previously to refer to spirits that were somehow affected by the void influence.</p><p>The Shade of Bylze (technically a ghost also) turned out to be Kyle Bale's trapped spirit placed there by the forces of the void.</p><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Shade_of_Bylze" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Shade_of_Bylze</a></p><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Kyle_Bayle" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Kyle_Bayle</a></p><p>4) And notice that a droag ritual of some sort was responsible for Kyle's spirit being placed within the Shade of Bylze. Droag involvement in that and the draconic language requirement for the cube might suggest that a similar ritual may have been used for both.</p><p>None of this verifies anything. That's the beauty of it. It merely suggests that it may not be a coincidence. But, it probably is... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Barx]

<p>That's still quite a stretch. That cube appearance is used all over the place, I don't think it has a particular meaning.</p><p>It's always possible that there's a connection between things unless we're shown for sure that there's not, but this one is pretty far in the 'unlikely' category, IMHO.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would tend to agree with Cusa on this. BUT even so, "Shades" are another part of the vernacular associated with the shadowmen and by extension the void. I don't know that anyone ever determined the lore behind the mysterious cube and the monolithic phylacteries that are used to summon the Shade of Ghazi. I think you had to speak draconic to interact with it, but not positive on that.</p></blockquote><p>Shade is also a way to refer to a ghost, which is a much better fit than what your alluding to.</p></blockquote><p>I allude to things from time to time that could be interesting, if true. That is because I believe that there is at least a possibility that SOE is alluding to it and I see a possible connection.</p><p>For Ghazi, there are some loose connections based on:</p><p>1) The afore-mentioned identical name</p><p>2) Some ties to in-game graphic assets</p><p>Using the same graphics assets does not verify anything as has been stated before on this forum. But, at the same time, it might be an intentional use of graphics.</p><p>The same graphic used for the mysterious cube can be found on the table in Everling's secret library.</p><p>And the same graphic for the monolithic phylacteries can be found in Chardok used for the Malefific Formation. You have to destroy the formation in chardok and blow the following horns to summon an elemental master(a gazer). The horns are named: Kab, Vul, Uzu, Myr, Zet, Roehn.</p><p>3) And they have used the word Shade previously to refer to spirits that were somehow affected by the void influence.</p><p>The Shade of Bylze (technically a ghost also) turned out to be Kyle Bale's trapped spirit placed there by the forces of the void.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Shade_of_Bylze" target="_blank">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Shade_of_Bylze</a></p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Kyle_Bayle" target="_blank">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Kyle_Bayle</a></p><p>4) And notice that a droag ritual of some sort was responsible for Kyle's spirit being placed within the Shade of Bylze. Droag involvement in that and the draconic language requirement for the cube might suggest that a similar ritual may have been used for both.</p><p>None of this verifies anything. That's the beauty of it. It merely suggests that it may not be a coincidence. But, it probably is... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>The cube was in the Nektropos Castle library long before Bonemire was a glimmer in dev's mind. Also the same graphic is available from the city merchant in Qeynos as Rubik's Cube. It is also used as a child's toy in the Haunted House. I suppose Night of the Dead has something to do with the void invasion as well?</p><p>There is no evidence to suggest that Kyle Bayle was an agent of the void when he was trapped in the Shade of Bylze. Actually, considering his very human personality it is entirely unlikely that the void is responsable for his current state of disembodied existance. The Droag <em>fed Kyle Bayle's spirit to the Shade of Bylze.</em> Kyle Bayle should of been destroyed by this like so many others before him. Instead Kyle was able to maintain his existance and even subvert the Shade of Bylze to contact us to get him another body so he could escape.</p><p>After his escape? He promises to seek his revenge. It sounds like it will be a revenge against us, which is rather strange because the only interaction we've ever had with him upto this point is to free him. /shrug some people are never grateful for anything.</p><p>Apparently Kyle Bayle makes a deal with the void to steal the Qeynos Claymoor. What he gets out of it is unknown, but he does manage to possess Mur Shar and with our help (again) reveals the Councle of Ten, kills a member, nearly kills Antonia Bayle and makes off with the Claymoor while we manage to free Mur Shar and save the Queen.</p><p>AFAIK Kyle Bayle hasn't made any appearances since then. You can argue that he was an agent of the void before the Droag caught him and fed him to the shade, but I don't see any evidence to support when this occured. It does sound strange though. The void typically finds a suitable host and drains the soul for power and sustinence. Then a shadowman enters the body and acts as an agent. Kyle is acting on his own. I seriously doubt that he impressed the Shadowmen so much that they decided not to follow their standard practices. If the caught him, I'm sure they attempted to tear away his soul and use his body just like they did to Finny Bobbit and others.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><strong><em></em></strong></p></blockquote><p>The cube was in the Nektropos Castle library long before Bonemire was a glimmer in dev's mind. Also the same graphic is available from the city merchant in Qeynos as Rubik's Cube. It is also used as a child's toy in the Haunted House. I suppose Night of the Dead has something to do with the void invasion as well?</p><p>There is no evidence to suggest that Kyle Bayle was an agent of the void when he was trapped in the Shade of Bylze. Actually, considering his very human personality it is entirely unlikely that the void is responsable for his current state of disembodied existance. The Droag <em>fed Kyle Bayle's spirit to the Shade of Bylze.</em> Kyle Bayle should of been destroyed by this like so many others before him. Instead Kyle was able to maintain his existance and even subvert the Shade of Bylze to contact us to get him another body so he could escape.</p><p>After his escape? He promises to seek his revenge. It sounds like it will be a revenge against us, which is rather strange because the only interaction we've ever had with him upto this point is to free him. /shrug some people are never grateful for anything.</p><p>Apparently Kyle Bayle makes a deal with the void to steal the Qeynos Claymoor. What he gets out of it is unknown, but he does manage to possess Mur Shar and with our help (again) reveals the Councle of Ten, kills a member, nearly kills Antonia Bayle and makes off with the Claymoor while we manage to free Mur Shar and save the Queen.</p><p>AFAIK Kyle Bayle hasn't made any appearances since then. You can argue that he was an agent of the void before the Droag caught him and fed him to the shade, but I don't see any evidence to support when this occured. It does sound strange though. The void typically finds a suitable host and drains the soul for power and sustinence. Then a shadowman enters the body and acts as an agent. Kyle is acting on his own. I seriously doubt that he impressed the Shadowmen so much that they decided not to follow their standard practices. If the caught him, I'm sure they attempted to tear away his soul and use his body just like they did to Finny Bobbit and others.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I wont discount Vhalen too much. He had a lot of ideas pretty far out in the future to say such things were never intended. This is part of the fun of such things though, to ponder the possibilities. Anything associated with Everling is always open for discussion by very nature of his business. His dealings in antiquities and relics of mystique open many doors, even those to the void.</p><p>I have always wondered about the reuse of graphic assets. Some make sense, some do not. This is a good example of one that doesnt. At least not yet. I think its fair to say that Nek Castle and Unrest do share some similar weirdness. Who is to say the cube we find there as a childs play toy is not to blame? Perhaps the purpose of the Rubik's Cube is more than an homage to the toy of our own world.</p><p>I am constantly nagged by Tony's comments earlier this year about the "undiscovered" things he left behind in EQ2. And each time I discover new drops from old content it fuels my curiosity. In the past 2 weeks I discovered weapons in Splitpaw and in the Commonlands. Fabled items never before seen . . . good times!~ </p>

[Jaremai]

<p>Is there a particular reason Ghazi in SH is trying to beat Fippy's record for zerging?</p>