Old toon gets no AA love

[suroktheslayer5]

<p>So I made most of my toons back in the cap 50 days. There's a small problem it's very hard for me to level AA. I think it's mostly due to the fact that until KoS there weren't any AA and so questing didn't give AA benifit. Now of my 3 level 90 toons the one with the highest AA has 171 AA and I find it very hard to find quests to level my AA with.</p><p>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to level AA when you don't have many quests to choose from? Is there a place where a level 90 can grind AA at a reasoanble rate?</p><p><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b344/suroktheslayer/oldfart.jpg" width="799" height="587" /></p>

[Grumble69]

<p>It doesn't have anything to do with the age of your toon.  I've got a much younger toon, 1297 quests and 172 AAs.  The bottom line is that SOE is expecting you to do much more.</p><p>With regards to grinding AAs off mobs, you're a few months too late.  SOE nerfed the bonuses.  The rate gain is less than a fifth of what it previously was.  Plus they whacked some encounters and instances.  Arguably, it was broke and maybe an exploit.  But the current system is so (BLEEP)ing slow and SOE just absolutely refuses to address it.</p><p>So for the time being, you just got to suck it up and milk every last quest out there.  Go after every named npc.  Hit every disco.  And get your collections.</p>

[Mikai]

<p>Truthfully, if you've got a friend with an SK or pally, chronoing down to do SOS or something and just killing mobs can get you some.  I have been powerleveling friends lately and gotten more than a few just doing that. </p><p>You can also get aa doing grey quests, so quests in zones you may have skipped earlier or perhaps have new quests now, (like lavastorm, butcherblock, etc) can help your aa.  The achievements tab can help you figure out where you haven't done lots of quests.</p><p>Mentor your friends and help them with leveling, do TSO and SF missions and zones, Even tradeskill quests and writs give aa, i believe, so do those.  It may take a bit more work for you, but it's not impossible.  Enough aa can be gotten just mindlessly killing mobs so when all else fails, you'll still get aa for that.  If you can, you get a bonus to aa for mentoring friends, so take advantage of that if possible.</p>

[Amnerys]

<p>Don't forget that this weekend you can get double AA XP during the bonus weekend!</p><p><a href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/3668" target="_blank">Double XP Bonus for Labor Day Weekend!</a></p>

[Masako]

<p>I ran into a shortage of AA leveling with just quests with a couple of my max level toons. As an experiment I leveled up another toon duoing with someone else who mentored to me, doing every single dungeon and instance in whatever level range he was at the time (I did quests too, of course). He's now sitting at 75 with 197 AA. Since that's worked well, I'm going back with my other toons and mentoring down, hitting all the heroic content I may have missed. It's not super fast, but I've made up decent AA this way.</p><p>Daily missions and quests are something to milk, too. When SF hit, to grind out my last 50 AAs on my main I went to doing the daily mark quest in Paineel, the daily SF tradeskill quests, and then mentoring/chronomentoring down to take buddies to Shard of Love along with doing the usual mark quests from SF instances and mentoring others. When TSO was current I milked all the tradeskill dailies out there as well along with the solo void shard quest.</p><p>This all didn't get me mass AA in a short period of time, it was a good steady way of gathering any missing AA I needed when regular quests weren't doing it for me.</p>

[Ilovecows]

<p>I am a level 53sk, i just got a PL from 40-51, and in the past couple days i have gained probably 2-3aa every hour or so with my slider at 90 and if i were level 90 i would be gaining a lot more aa.  aa isn't very hard to get if you know how.</p><p>edit: named give a lot more aa than quests.  700-800 named is equal to the aa you recieve from about 2500 quests.</p>

[Ralpmet]

<p><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am a level 53sk, i just got a PL from 40-51, and in the past couple days i have gained probably 2-3aa every hour or so with my slider at 90 and if i were level 90 i would be gaining a lot more aa.  aa isn't very hard to get if you know how.</p></blockquote><p>Why do people post things like this? Obviously not, that's why the OP was asking what he should do. Way to be a contributing member to a community and not someone who is just saying "neener neener".</p>

[swedago]

<p>I made my troubador when eq2 launched in NOV 2004.  With the nerfs around KoS I decided to reroll since I did not enjoy playing him anymore.</p><p>Last 4th of July there was a x2 AA & Xp weekend. (July 2-5).  On July 1st I decided to dust the toon off and give it a go to catch him up to my 3 other 90/250 AA toons (more a nostalgic thing than anything else).</p><p>My troub was 72/65 AAs (30 HQs done, 900 quests done, 28 L&L done, and 150 collections).  So as you can see I was far behind,</p><p>July 2-5 I redid all the old tier2+ zones (mentored).  A bunch of them had the AA reset so had a few prior kills give AA again.</p><p>July 6th my troub was 90/240 AAs/Epic & TSF Epic Buff.  It is not that difficult if you focus</p>

[swedago]

<p>Double Post....</p>

[Alvane]

<p>All these award AA even if grey 2,670 quests</p><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Monsters_that_award_AA" target="_blank">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:AA_Quests</a></p><p>All adventure writs give AA even if grey</p><p>All book quests give AA even if grey</p><p>All HQs give AA even if grey</p><p>All disco give AA</p><p><a href="http://heilig.us/discovery/index.html" target="_blank">http://heilig.us/discovery/index.html</a></p><p>Certain antique treasures give AA even dropped from grey mobs</p><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Items_that_award_AA" target="_blank">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:...s_that_award_AA</a></p><p>Names (1,505) with a star give AA - must be green or higher - use mentoring or Chronomage system</p><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Monsters_that_award_AA" target="_blank">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:...s_that_award_AA</a></p>

[Grumble69]

<p><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am a level 53sk, i just got a PL from 40-51, and in the past couple days i have gained probably 2-3aa every hour or so with my slider at 90 and if i were level 90 i would be gaining a lot more aa.  aa isn't very hard to get if you know how.</p><p>edit: named give a lot more aa than quests.  700-800 named is equal to the aa you recieve from about 2500 quests.</p></blockquote><p>Young whippersnapper, the AA curve at your levels is not any where comparable to the end of the scale.  /failsauce</p>

[PlaneCrazy]

<p><cite>suroktheslayer5 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So I made most of my toons back in the cap 50 days. There's a small problem it's very hard for me to level AA. I think it's mostly due to the fact that until KoS there weren't any AA and so questing didn't give AA benifit. Now of my 3 level 90 toons the one with the highest AA has 171 AA and I find it very hard to find quests to level my AA with.</p><p>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to level AA when you don't have many quests to choose from? Is there a place where a level 90 can grind AA at a reasoanble rate?</p><p><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b344/suroktheslayer/oldfart.jpg" width="799" height="587" /></p></blockquote><p>Self Mentor and hit all the old instances for the AA.  A level 90 mentoring down into the 40's, 50's and 60's can slaughter heroic content on those Tiers.</p><p>Just as an example, my SK is 90 with 232 AA (I think).  The other day I was running my brother through Runneyeye for the BBC quest.   In 3 hours we did the 1000 kills required and hit every named there at least 3 times and I got 2 full AA points.  And that's even though I had killed some of the AA mobs before.</p><p>Also, there's several thousand quests in this game.  I'm 1500+ completed with a full quest journal and I still see dozens in every zone I go that I haven't done yet.  Make sure you change your settings to show grey quests and then plan to do them while you mentor to the best level for those areas. And finally, make sure you watch out for the seasonal or other event driven quests that come up... examples - Moonlight enchantments on the 20th, holiday events, ad hoc events like the quest to activate the wizard spires, etc.. etc..  Most of those quests scale to your level, are soleable, fun to do and usually give you a nice chunk of AA.</p>

[suroktheslayer5]

<p>OP here. Thank you everyone for the helpful suggestions. I'm a bit confused on whether I should chrono or mentor to receive the most benifit, I can do both.</p>

[TheSpin]

<p>I believe you get a bonus to AA experience from actually mentoring someone, but you take a big hit on adventure xp.  While chrono mentoring you don't get slammed quite so hard on the adventure xp, but you don't get any kind of bonus to AA.</p>

[scrapiron7]

<p>1322 completed? That's not much. There's plenty of quests still available you can do for AA.</p>

[Zutan]

<p>I have some toons that did all the old quests up to at least level 50, some to level 60 prior to AA even existing.  They only have from 50 to 100 AA total now. At this point they have no viable way to gain AA without serious grinding. </p><p>My 'new' toons tend to have in the 170 to 180 AA range by the time they hit 90 without any grinding (just doing every soloable quest I can find and switching to 100% AA to finish out all zones before they gray out)</p>

[Grumble69]

<p><cite>Zutan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have some toons that did all the old quests up to at least level 50, some to level 60 prior to AA even existing.  They only have from 50 to 100 AA total now. At this point they have no viable way to gain AA without serious grinding. </p><p>My 'new' toons tend to have in the 170 to 180 AA range by the time they hit 90 without any grinding (just doing every soloable quest I can find and switching to 100% AA to finish out all zones before they gray out)</p></blockquote><p>There's been a lot of new content added in the lower tiers since your old toons existed.  The quests are there without having to grind.  It's just a royal PITA.</p>

[Ranja]

<p><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am a level 53sk, i just got a PL from 40-51, and in the past couple days i have gained probably 2-3aa every hour or so with my slider at 90 and if i were level 90 i would be gaining a lot more aa.  aa isn't very hard to get if you know how.</p><p>edit: named give a lot more aa than quests.  700-800 named is equal to the aa you recieve from about 2500 quests.</p></blockquote><p>No you won;'t gain more at 90. You will gain less and less as you get more AA. Please stop posting drivel you have no idea about. You gain so much b/c you were powerleveled so you actually level to AA ratio is way low. Wait till you get 150 AAs and you will see it slow way down.</p>

[Alvane]

<p><cite>Zutan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have some toons that did all the old quests up to at least level 50, some to level 60 prior to AA even existing.  They only have from 50 to 100 AA total now. At this point they have no viable way to gain AA without serious grinding. </p><p>My 'new' toons tend to have in the 170 to 180 AA range by the time they hit 90 without any grinding (just doing every soloable quest I can find and switching to 100% AA to finish out all zones before they gray out)</p></blockquote><p>No need to grind (using XP kills conversion) unless you want to do so. Some peeps use Firemyst Gully. Higher levels like the blobs in Chelsith instance.  Both areas respawn quickly if this is what you wish to do.</p><p>Other than that, use the links I gave a few posts up. You'll have more than enough to get to 250 if you put your mind to it.</p><p>As to your "new" toons at 90/170-180 you missed a lot of names, quests, disco, collections, writs......... and all AA quests will continue to give you AA even if grey upon completion. Starred AA named must be green or higher to receive AA.</p><p>BTW, I was cap when AA was introduced with KoS. I was also at cap both adventure and AA with every xpac since. I am now 90/90/250/450/450/450 all without grinding.</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p><cite>Grumble69 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am a level 53sk, i just got a PL from 40-51, and in the past couple days i have gained probably 2-3aa every hour or so with my slider at 90 and if i were level 90 i would be gaining a lot more aa.  aa isn't very hard to get if you know how.</p><p>edit: named give a lot more aa than quests.  700-800 named is equal to the aa you recieve from about 2500 quests.</p></blockquote><p>Young whippersnapper, the AA curve at your levels is not any where comparable to the end of the scale.  /failsauce</p></blockquote><p>The AA curve is exactly the same regardless of adventure level IF you have the same number of AAs.  However, it definitely takes longer to get an AA the more AAs you have.</p><p>Personally I really enjoy chronomentoring (and regular mentoring if I have a toon the right level on my 2nd account) and going back to do lower level content that I either missed or was added since I leveled past that range.  There's quite a lot of new content in the lower zones, including recently revamped starter questlines in Darklight Woods and Greater Faydark.  Even though they are lower level zones, you can still get a considerable amount of AA, especially if you put your AA slider to 100%.  Plus there's quite a few nifty new quest rewards, such as house items and mounts (although the mounts are only 25%, but still can be put into your house!).</p>

[Kordran]

<p>Don't forget lower-tier raids and contested epics, they'll also give you a lot of AA points, and there's still guilds that PUG them exactly for that. Also, hit each and every instance that's available to you.</p><p>Once you get a bit higher level, and if you're really dedicated, then quest lines like Claymore and Swords of Destiny (which end with raids) will net you a significant number of points just by the virtue of how they're designed. A first-time run through HoF is probably worth a couple of points right there.</p>

[Ritalyn]

<p>While doing the spires events and collecting the rocks for it I gained 8% the first time I turned it in, then it throttled back to pretty much nothing the next time I did it. By the time I had done it enough to get a few things from the merchant I was doing it 3 times to get it to move....this is at level 12 with about as many AA's. Why is it like this?</p><p>Do they throttle back when your grinding the same mobs over and over?</p><p>Why are the mechanics for leveling set up in a way so you cant fall down without gaining experience then throttled back to slow you down?</p><p>Its like they want you to level quickly but want to slow you down at the same time. Doesn't make a bit of sense to me.</p>

[Asp9873]

<p><cite>Grumble69 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It doesn't have anything to do with the age of your toon.  I've got a much younger toon, 1297 quests and 172 AAs.  The bottom line is that SOE is expecting you to do much more.</p><p>With regards to grinding AAs off mobs, you're a few months too late.  SOE nerfed the bonuses.  The rate gain is less than a fifth of what it previously was.  Plus they whacked some encounters and instances.  Arguably, it was broke and maybe an exploit.  <strong>But the current system is so (BLEEP)ing slow and SOE just absolutely refuses to address it.</strong></p><p>So for the time being, you just got to suck it up and milk every last quest out there.  Go after every named npc.  Hit every disco.  And get your collections.</p></blockquote><p>I SWEAR to Bristlebane.... I had nothing to do with it.</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p><cite>Ritalyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>While doing the spires events and collecting the rocks for it I gained 8% the first time I turned it in, then it throttled back to pretty much nothing the next time I did it. By the time I had done it enough to get a few things from the merchant I was doing it 3 times to get it to move....this is at level 12 with about as many AA's. Why is it like this?</p><p>Do they throttle back when your grinding the same mobs over and over?</p><p>Why are the mechanics for leveling set up in a way so you cant fall down without gaining experience then throttled back to slow you down?</p><p>Its like they want you to level quickly but want to slow you down at the same time. Doesn't make a bit of sense to me.</p></blockquote><p>Normally you only get AA the first time you do a repeatable quest, unless its a daily mission type quest where it disappears out of your quest log.  But the druid ring quests have different names in each of the rings involved in the event, so be sure to do the quests at least once in each zone <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />.</p>

[Grumble69]

<p><cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Grumble69 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Steppen@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am a level 53sk, i just got a PL from 40-51, and in the past couple days i have gained probably 2-3aa every hour or so with my slider at 90 and if i were level 90 i would be gaining a lot more aa.  aa isn't very hard to get if you know how.</p><p>edit: named give a lot more aa than quests.  700-800 named is equal to the aa you recieve from about 2500 quests.</p></blockquote><p>Young whippersnapper, the AA curve at your levels is not any where comparable to the end of the scale.  /failsauce</p></blockquote><p>The AA curve is exactly the same regardless of adventure level IF you have the same number of AAs.  However, it definitely takes longer to get an AA the more AAs you have.</p></blockquote><p>True.  But what I'm arguing about is a low level player talking about getting AAs every 20-30min or so.  I'd guess he has 100 AAs or less.  He's extrapolating out and thinking AAs aren't hard to get at all.  But he's got no concept that the curve really takes off.  It's going to be a rude surprise when he does that quest later on and gets that tinsy bit of AA.</p>

[Zutan]

<p>Part of the deal is that there are way more soloable quests from 10 to 50ish than there are after that.</p><p>You can do 10-20 in TD, Neriak, Halas, CL and Antonica. You can do 20-30 in TS, Nek, BBM.. keep going on up.. but once you get to 50ish there really are no 'alternate' leveling paths for the purposes of AA locking etc.</p><p>I notice I get a ton of AA up to around 50 then it slows down drastically. Then around 80+ it picks up again.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>The 40s thru 80s there are a metric <em>buttload</em> of dungeons you can go hunting in to farm for AAs (including a few Epic named). Not even counting instances:</p><ul><li>Temple of Cazic Thule</li><li>Klak'anon</li><li>Solusek's Eye</li><li>Permafrost</li><li>New Tunaria</li><li>Mistmoore Catacombs</li><li>Castle Mistmoore</li><li>Sanctum of Scaleborn</li><li>Palace of the Awakened</li><li>Clefts of Rujark</li><li>Living Tombs</li><li>Shimmering Citadel</li><li>Silent City</li><li>The Forsaken City</li><li>Karnor's Castle</li><li>Chardok</li><li>Sebilis</li><li>The Hole</li></ul><p>Depending on your class, most if not all of these dungeons are soloable by a level 90 that's mentored via Chronomagi (though I wouldn't recommend mentoring for Sebilis, Chardok, or the Hole).</p><p>Not to mention the overland zones with their plethora of soloable quests and another metric buttload of named mobs. And nevermind all of the instanced zones like Poet's Palace, Halls of Fate, Crypt of Agony, all of TSO, and all of Sentinel's Fate.</p><p>Also remember that when you mentor a player and not use a Chronomagi, you gain an AA bonus.</p><p>If you somehow exhaust all of that, daily missions in TSO, SF, the Chronomagi missions, and tradeskill missions help out immensely.</p>