Can I run EQ2 in Windowed noborder mode?

[CaptainBritish]

<p>Title says it all really, WoW players should be familiar with the feature that lets you play in a window but full screen, is there any way to activate this in EQ2? Apologies if this is in the wrong section, it felt the most appropriate.</p>

[Shareana]

<p>Umm not quite sure what you are referring to, but I play in windowed mode myself.  There is a slight border though, but it also allows me easy access to browse.</p>

[Ulrazaj]

<p><cite>CaptainBritish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Title says it all really, WoW players should be familiar with the feature that lets you play in a window but full screen, is there any way to activate this in EQ2? Apologies if this is in the wrong section, it felt the most appropriate.</p></blockquote><p>There is no built in way to do this, I think there is with a 3rd party utility, but I may be mistaken.  Features like these are left to premium games like WoW, not free-to-play games like EQ2.</p>

[Thistleknot]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm not quite sure what you are referring to, but I play in windowed mode myself.  There is a slight border though, but it also allows me easy access to browse.</p></blockquote><p>I'm guessing he's asking to be able to have a window without the title bar and minimize, maximize, close icons, so that he can make it full screen but still be in "windowed" mode.</p><p>It would actually be nice to have so that I can have EQ2 use my full screen size, but be able to alt-tab out quickly; Since I came back to the game right after Halas, apparently ALT-Tabbing out of fullscreen takes forever now.</p>

[Ulrazaj]

<p><cite>Thistleknot wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm not quite sure what you are referring to, but I play in windowed mode myself.  There is a slight border though, but it also allows me easy access to browse.</p></blockquote><p>I'm guessing he's asking to be able to have a window without the title bar and minimize, maximize, close icons, so that he can make it full screen but still be in "windowed" mode.</p><p>It would actually be nice to have so that I can have EQ2 use my full screen size, but be able to alt-tab out quickly; Since I came back to the game right after Halas, apparently ALT-Tabbing out of fullscreen takes forever now.</p></blockquote><p>Correct, this is "windows mode" however its fullscreen as well.  It looks just like fullscreen does, but when EQ2 is running fullscreen, it takes control over the entire graphics card, while its in windowed mode graphics card command is relinquished to the operating system.  This is why alt tabbing from fullscreen to an web browser takes much longer than windows mode to a web browser, as this relinquishing of graphics card control, and then taking it back isn't as instantaneous as switching windows while windows is already in control of the graphics card.</p><p>The desire to have this 3rd option is that your game looks as great as it does in full screen, yet you can still alt tab out as quickly as windowed mode.  There is a slight chance that you may take a slight performance FPS hit when using this mode compared to the traditional fullscreen mode we have now, but its the same hit you take running in the current window mode now, compared to fullscreen.  If you can run windowed mode fine, you can run a "full screen borderless fill you screen window" fine as well.</p>

[CaptainBritish]

<p><cite>Ulrazaj wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>CaptainBritish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Title says it all really, WoW players should be familiar with the feature that lets you play in a window but full screen, is there any way to activate this in EQ2? Apologies if this is in the wrong section, it felt the most appropriate.</p></blockquote><p>There is no built in way to do this, I think there is with a 3rd party utility, but I may be mistaken.  Features like these are left to premium games like WoW, not free-to-play games like EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>EQ2 is a premium game, hence why there are the regular (buy games, pay monthly) version and the free version. I'm on the pay monthly version so yeah, it's a premium game.</p>

[Ulrazaj]

<p><cite>CaptainBritish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ulrazaj wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>CaptainBritish wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Title says it all really, WoW players should be familiar with the feature that lets you play in a window but full screen, is there any way to activate this in EQ2? Apologies if this is in the wrong section, it felt the most appropriate.</p></blockquote><p>There is no built in way to do this, I think there is with a 3rd party utility, but I may be mistaken.  Features like these are left to premium games like WoW, not free-to-play games like EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>EQ2 is a premium game, hence why there are the regular (buy games, pay monthly) version and the free version. I'm on the pay monthly version so yeah, it's a premium game.</p></blockquote><p>You're paying to play a free game, free games have RMT, micro-transactions, whatever you want to call it, not premium games.</p>

[Jeeshman]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm not quite sure what you are referring to, but I play in windowed mode myself.  There is a slight border though, but it also allows me easy access to browse.</p></blockquote><p>I think what he means is the game is in windowed mode, but the window is so large you don't seen the top portion of the window (which in XP/Vista/7 has a title bar and the three buttons on the right), nor do you see the bottom (taskbar) portion.  It's really nice if you have two monitors and you want to click on a window in monitor 2.  Or if you want ACT's mini-window to be visible.</p><p>The game did this for me for a while after I hit Alt-Enter to go from fullscreen to window.  It was back in 2006.  I just got lucky for a while, apparently; now it doesn't happen.</p>

[CaptainBritish]

<p>Exactly what I mean, essentially the game acts like it's in full screen but you can alt tab out with no delay like any other windowed application.</p>

[Barx]

<p>Unfortunately I don't think there is a command in EQ2 to do that. I'd love it if there was as it's something I'd use myself (I play windowed and alt tab to other things frequently -- being an officer in a raiding guild almost requires it during raids, hehe). If you haven't already, put a /feedback in in-game and maybe it's something Rothgar or one of the other programmers can add.</p>

[drakkenshie]

<p><cite>Ulrazaj wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Thistleknot wrote:</cite></p><p>Correct, this is "windows mode" however its fullscreen as well.  It looks just like fullscreen does, but when EQ2 is running fullscreen, it takes control over the entire graphics card, while its in windowed mode graphics card command is relinquished to the operating system.  This is why alt tabbing from fullscreen to an web browser takes much longer than windows mode to a web browser, as this relinquishing of graphics card control, and then taking it back isn't as instantaneous as switching windows while windows is already in control of the graphics card.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, this is true.</p><p>Before the Halas update, I could switch out of full screen mode instantly.</p><p>Now it takes forever.</p><p>Turn on Shader 3 and it takes a _really_ long time.</p><p>Something got broken in that update, because switching used to be fast.</p>

[Thistleknot]

<p><cite>drakkenshield wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Actually, this is true.</p><p>Before the Halas update, I could switch out of full screen mode instantly.</p><p>Now it takes forever.</p><p>Something got broken in that update, because switching used to be fast.</p></blockquote><p>I don't know what they did, but I really wish they'd fix it. I read the alt-tab time was increased for Shader 3.0, but I'm not using that and its ridiculously slow... I can't imagine what speeds that occur with that on.</p><p>I also remember being able to alt-tab out of fullscreen to another program thats already running (like say my browser), without the game jumping to windowed mode first, which is what it seems to do now every time. Of course, I hadn't played since TSO, so I might be remembering that incorrectly.</p>