Disabling the welcome screen

[Bremer]

<p>Prior to GU57 putting "cl_show_welcome_screen_on_startup 0" in the eq2.ini disabled the window on startup. Why does this not work anymore? Is this a (pathetic) attempt to promote Station Cash?</p><p>As temporary solution I just put an empty file "eq2ui_mainhud_welcome.xml" in my custom UI folder to get rid of the pop up. But this way the window won't work at all of course.</p><p>Is there a way to disable the pop up, but keep the window intact?</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Prior to GU57 putting "cl_show_welcome_screen_on_startup 0" in the eq2.ini disabled the window on startup. Why does this not work anymore? Is this a (pathetic) attempt to promote Station Cash?</p><p>As temporary solution I just put an empty file "eq2ui_mainhud_welcome.xml" in my custom UI folder to get rid of the pop up. But this way the window won't work at all of course.</p><p>Is there a way to disable the pop up, but keep the window intact?</p></blockquote><p>have not seen any and given the new emphsis on station cash and rmt I doubt there will be one, since they removed the command that did work prior to gu57</p>

[Katz]

<p>There are some work arounds posted at eq2interface forums.</p>

[Bremer]

<p><cite>Katz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There are some work arounds posted at eq2interface forums.</p></blockquote><p>Do you have a link? I only found one thread suggesting to change the window size to 0,0, but the result is essentially the same like with my dummy file.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Katz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There are some work arounds posted at eq2interface forums.</p></blockquote><p>Do you have a link? I only found one thread suggesting to change the window size to 0,0, but the result is essentially the same like with my dummy file.</p></blockquote><p>No you are right eq2interface only has the mods that you already know of.</p><p>Maybe on EQ2X it can be disabled. I see in their matrix it says No PopUp Ads for Gold or Platinum members :p</p><p>Kiddding aside I have not figured this one out yet, probably nothing to figure out honestly. But I don't have til Monday to work on it really <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Jrral]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>have not seen any and given the new emphsis on station cash and rmt I doubt there will be one, since they removed the command that did work prior to gu57</p></blockquote><p>I hope they put the command back in, because it's in their own best interests. With the command in place we can stop the pop-up on login and still open the window later. Without the command the only ways to shut the window off on log-in disable the window completely and permanently. I'd think marketing would prefer the former to the latter.</p>

[Nakaru-Nitepaw]

<p>I hope so too. I set the window size to 0,0 on my welcome screen so i couldn't even look at it if i wanted to.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p>It has been hard coded in from what i can see. I switched back to the old Welcome Screen (all you have to do is change the version) and the command still doesn't work. So seems like not being able to disable it like previous is actually the intent</p>

[Sevirin]

<p><em><a href="http://www.eq2interface.com/downloads/info4987-Autoclosingwelcomescreen.html" target="_blank">Autoclosing welcome screen</a></em></p><p>I use this. The welcome screen displays for 1/100th of a second before closing itself automatically.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Sevirin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><em><a href="http://www.eq2interface.com/downloads/info4987-Autoclosingwelcomescreen.html" target="_blank">Autoclosing welcome screen</a></em></p><p>I use this. The welcome screen displays for 1/100th of a second before closing itself automatically.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah but some people want to use it later lol just not at startup. That is virtually the same as changing size to 0,0 (ie it is completely unuseable)</p><p>At first I thought this was the answer lol, but then I noticed even if you try to open it yourself it will auto-close</p>

[Bremer]

<p>Anyone knows, if the following is possible?</p><ul><li>Add dummy to custom folder, so no window shows on start up, </li><li>include in eq2ui_custom.xml window, that is renamed welcome window</li><li>change start button entry for the welcome window, so that it does not open the default window (that has been replaced by the dummy file), but the custom window, that is actually the welcome window</li></ul><p>This way the window wouldn't show on startup, but could be openend via the start menu.</p><p>I have no clue about modifying the UI, so I don't know how to change the window the start menu opens. Is it possible to change them and if yes, how?</p><p>I just tried looking in the files for start menu (xp bar, startbutton, startmenu), but I found no line like "onpres showwindow eq2ui_mainhud_welcome" or something like that (as I said, no clue about UI modifications).</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Anyone knows, if the following is possible?</p><ul><li>Add dummy to custom folder, so no window shows on start up, </li><li>include in eq2ui_custom.xml window, that is renamed welcome window</li><li>change start button entry for the welcome window, so that it does not open the default window (that has been replaced by the dummy file), but the custom window, that is actually the welcome window</li></ul><p>This way the window wouldn't show on startup, but could be openend via the start menu.</p><p>I have no clue about modifying the UI, so I don't know how to change the window the start menu opens. Is it possible to change them and if yes, how?</p><p>I just tried looking in the files for start menu (xp bar, startbutton, startmenu), but I found no line like "onpres showwindow eq2ui_mainhud_welcome" or something like that (as I said, no clue about UI modifications).</p></blockquote><p>Tried this but the startmenu is dynamically created and doesnt look like you can change entries</p>

[Nakaru-Nitepaw]

<p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Anyone knows, if the following is possible?</p><ul><li>Add dummy to custom folder, so no window shows on start up, </li><li>include in eq2ui_custom.xml window, that is renamed welcome window</li><li>change start button entry for the welcome window, so that it does not open the default window (that has been replaced by the dummy file), but the custom window, that is actually the welcome window</li></ul><p>This way the window wouldn't show on startup, but could be openend via the start menu.</p><p>I have no clue about modifying the UI, so I don't know how to change the window the start menu opens. Is it possible to change them and if yes, how?</p><p>I just tried looking in the files for start menu (xp bar, startbutton, startmenu), but I found no line like "onpres showwindow eq2ui_mainhud_welcome" or something like that (as I said, no clue about UI modifications).</p></blockquote><p>I already tried replacing the XML for the welcome screen with a blank file but all that did was make the game crash as soon as it would normally show the welcome window. So the only way to effectively remove it for me is to edit the XML and change the maximum size of the window to 0,0. This only works if you copied the file and made a custom UI folder though. if you edit the one in the default folder, the patcher would just undo the changes. So basically theres something in the XML script somewhere, that HAS to be there. I'm not sure what, but without it the game crashes.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p>Luinne has found the answer here <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=485509">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=485509</a></p><p>You can still open it later at your leisure!</p>

[Nakaru-Nitepaw]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Luinne has found the answer here <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=485509">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=485509</a></p><p>You can still open it later at your leisure!</p></blockquote><p>If you mean the "change maximum window size to 0,0" plan, that realy does not mean you can use the window at your own leisure. That permanently hides the window. That is the plan i went with. Since i never look at the welcome screen in the first place, it was feasible for me to do it this way.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Eschia@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Luinne has found the answer here <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=485509">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=485509</a></p><p>You can still open it later at your leisure!</p></blockquote><p>If you mean the "change maximum window size to 0,0" plan, that realy does not mean you can use the window at your own leisure. That permanently hides the window. That is the plan i went with. Since i never look at the welcome screen in the first place, it was feasible for me to do it this way.</p></blockquote><p>No Luinne's method I linked to does not change the size. It is actually a change that makes it work like it did before SOE changed it. Quite ingenious.</p><p>For me the 0,0 thing works as I never look at it ever. But some wanted it to not open but still be able to use it later if they so want and Luinne's method does just that.</p><p>EDIT:Seems like the new way still doesn't let you open the window later either, so back to the drawing board</p>

[Bremer]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Anyone knows, if the following is possible?</p><ul><li>Add dummy to custom folder, so no window shows on start up, </li><li>include in eq2ui_custom.xml window, that is renamed welcome window</li><li>change start button entry for the welcome window, so that it does not open the default window (that has been replaced by the dummy file), but the custom window, that is actually the welcome window</li></ul><p>This way the window wouldn't show on startup, but could be openend via the start menu.</p><p>I have no clue about modifying the UI, so I don't know how to change the window the start menu opens. Is it possible to change them and if yes, how?</p><p>I just tried looking in the files for start menu (xp bar, startbutton, startmenu), but I found no line like "onpres showwindow eq2ui_mainhud_welcome" or something like that (as I said, no clue about UI modifications).</p></blockquote><p>Tried this but the startmenu is dynamically created and doesnt look like you can change entries</p></blockquote><p>Even if it doesn't work with the start menu. The part with the custom file should work? So that you put the welcome screen in in the custom folder and in eq2ui_custom.xml with a different name and then open the file on demand with /show_window?</p><p>Only problem is, I don't know how to do it. I made a naive attempt just to rename the window to eq2ui_mainhud_welc.xml, included it in custom.xml and then tried ingame /show_window eq2ui_mainhud_welc.xml, but nothing happened. I think you have to change some visibility properties in the window file before it works, but I don't know which (as said before, UI noob <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). Or is the problem something else?</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bremer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Anyone knows, if the following is possible?</p><ul><li>Add dummy to custom folder, so no window shows on start up, </li><li>include in eq2ui_custom.xml window, that is renamed welcome window</li><li>change start button entry for the welcome window, so that it does not open the default window (that has been replaced by the dummy file), but the custom window, that is actually the welcome window</li></ul><p>This way the window wouldn't show on startup, but could be openend via the start menu.</p><p>I have no clue about modifying the UI, so I don't know how to change the window the start menu opens. Is it possible to change them and if yes, how?</p><p>I just tried looking in the files for start menu (xp bar, startbutton, startmenu), but I found no line like "onpres showwindow eq2ui_mainhud_welcome" or something like that (as I said, no clue about UI modifications).</p></blockquote><p>Tried this but the startmenu is dynamically created and doesnt look like you can change entries</p></blockquote><p>Even if it doesn't work with the start menu. The part with the custom file should work? So that you put the welcome screen in in the custom folder and in eq2ui_custom.xml with a different name and then open the file on demand with /show_window?</p><p>Only problem is, I don't know how to do it. I made a naive attempt just to rename the window to eq2ui_mainhud_welc.xml, included it in custom.xml and then tried ingame /show_window eq2ui_mainhud_welc.xml, but nothing happened.I think you have to change some visibility properties in the window file before it works, but I don't know which (as said before, UI noob <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> ). Or is the problem something else?</p></blockquote><p>And here is the best fix. It doesn't open but allows you to open at will</p><p><cite>Drumstix42 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><div><span style="color: #ffffff;">That fix isn't a true fix, it just changed the window name so the game cannot find it, and the command you're putting in the eq2.ini is doing absolutely nothing.A real fix would be to hide the window the first time it comes up with an OnShow event and only have it fire off once.Add a property to the first < Page >: </span><span style="color: #ffffff;"><blockquote><em>HiddenOnce="false"</em></blockquote></span><span style="color: #ffffff;">Add the OnShow property, also to the first :< Page > </span><span style="color: #ffffff;"><blockquote><em>OnShow="visible=HiddenOnce HiddenOnce=true"</em></blockquote></span><span style="color: #ffffff;">Note: I didn't test this. but it should work </span></div></blockquote><p>From DrumStix over at eq2interface. <a href="http://www.eq2interface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=92905#post92905">http://www.eq2interface.com/forums/...92905#post92905</a></p><p>I have tested it and it seems to work perfectly</p>