cl_show_welcome_screen_on_startup 0 bugged?

[Khurghan]

<p>Is the cl_show_welcome_screen_on_startup 0 setting bugged with the lastest update? Or is this command changed?</p>

[Xill]

<p>That the command to disable the welcome screen? Would imagine its disabled as they want you to see all 2/3 of the page worth of SC items.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p>Seems the new welcome screen isn't filtered by this?</p>

[Shareana]

<p>I merged 2 topics that were about the same issue here to save some confusion.  Thank you!</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Xill wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That the command to disable the welcome screen? Would imagine its disabled as they want you to see all 2/3 of the page worth of SC items.</p></blockquote><p>That would make me sad.. just hoping it changed</p>

[Tkyle1]

<p> Yes I'm just hoping the way to disable this one is diff. from old one. If someone figures this out, please share! =)</p>

[Jrral]

<p>I hope they either make this command work again or provide an option to not show the welcome screen on startup. I've been playing the game for years, most of what's displayed on it I just don't need to see anymore and all it does is annoy me to have to dismiss that screen every single time I log in. I suspect it's going to similarly annoy new players too: "I saw that when I logged in this morning too. Nothing's changed. Why are you bothering me with this? Get out of my way so I can play.".</p>

[Kenazeer]

<p>Makes perfect sense with their mindset though. We have an SC button we can't get rid of, so it wouldn't be out of character for them to have changed this so that you are now FORCED to look at marketplace items.</p>

[Lathain_Sarathai]

<p>If you find way to get ride of this welcome screem please post it, i ll not accept it. I no want it.</p><p>And while you are at this, if you find way to remove SC count from be bound with my plat, share the info <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I totaly dont care to know how much SC i have and that have nothing to do in my playtime. Or allow me to buy SC with platinium !</p>

[Kordran]

<p>And here I was a couple of weeks past, posting about how SOE is at least willing to compromise with players on some issues like the ability to disable the "welcome screen" on login by providing the option in the eq2.ini file. Looks like I'll be eating my hat on this issue.</p><p>To make matters pathetically worse, they don't even provide current information on the welcome screen. The left side is mostly dead space, the daily mission and hotzone information is for T8 and the list goes on. If they're going to show this to us every time we enter the game, it would be incredibly special of them to at least show information that's relevant.</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Lathain_Sarathai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And while you are at this, if you find way to remove SC count from be bound with my plat, share the info <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>That should be doable by editing it out of the UI file for the relavent windows.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p>Hah I tried editing the welcome screen out of the mainhud.xml but I just got a big black box ingame instead of no window as my intent...  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[DuneWarrior]

<p>How can they [Removed for Content] the $C items they want you to buy when you turn off the screen... just saying</p>

[Malacha]

<p>This is ridiculous SOE.... we are not as dumb as you think we are! We know full well what you are up to. We get it, you want us to use SC. But forcing this stupid welcome window back on us after the original uproar is a big ol finger to your player base.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Malachani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is ridiculous SOE.... we are not as dumb as you think we are! We know full well what you are up to. We get it, you want us to use SC. But forcing this stupid welcome window back on us after the original uproar is a big ol finger to your player base.</p></blockquote><p>yeah tried various XML settings.. but it forces the overlay regardless of if the window is present or not</p>

[tkia]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hah I tried editing the welcome screen out of the mainhud.xml but I just got a big black box ingame instead of no window as my intent...  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Don't do that, take a copy of the welcome window itself and play with the size and location settings in the file.</p><p>I managed to mod mine into oblivion doing that which totally defeats their purpose in removing the switch.   At least when I could turn it off at login I would occasionally open it up and look at it for some reason, now it seems to be a minute number of pixels located somewhere off the edge of my screen .....</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>tkia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hah I tried editing the welcome screen out of the mainhud.xml but I just got a big black box ingame instead of no window as my intent...  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Don't do that, take a copy of the welcome window itself and play with the size and location settings in the file.</p><p>I managed to mod mine into oblivion doing that which totally defeats their purpose in removing the switch.   At least when I could turn it off at login I would occasionally open it up and look at it for some reason, now it seems to be a minute number of pixels located somewhere off the edge of my screen .....</p></blockquote><p>OMG THIS WORKED.</p><p>Ok if you are using a custom ui move the "eq2ui_mainhud_welcom.xml" file to your custom UI folder (ie eq2maps ect..)</p><p>Then open up the .xml you just copied (not the original) in an editor of some sort (notepad or wordpad are fine)</p><p>Then find this, it should be at the very top</p><p><Page Activated="true" eq2opensound="ui_window_inventory_open" eq2usescomwndcontrols="false" IgnoreTab="false" Location="112,72" <strong>MaximumSize="1024,1024"</strong> Name="Welcome" PackLocation="center,center" ScrollExtent="820,600" Size="820,600" UserMovable="true" UserScrollable="false" version="2.0"></p><p>And change the bolded part to</p><p>MaximumSize="0,0"</p><p>and it should look like</p><p><Page Activated="true" eq2opensound="ui_window_inventory_open" eq2usescomwndcontrols="false" IgnoreTab="false" Location="112,72" <strong>MaximumSize="0,0"</strong> Name="Welcome" PackLocation="center,center" ScrollExtent="820,600" Size="820,600" UserMovable="true" UserScrollable="false" version="2.0"></p><p>Save your file and no more welcome screen... (at all, even if you want to actually look at it later lol)</p>

[Kain-UK]

<p>Also, if you have access to your old default UI prior to today, you can copy the old welcome screen (<span >eq2ui_mainhud_welcom.xml) into a custom UI folder.</span></p><p>EQ2 will complain it isn't compatiable and can't load it... but it kills the new one!</p>

[Malacha]

<p><cite>Yaevin@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Also, if you have access to your old default UI prior to today, you can copy the old welcome screen (<span>eq2ui_mainhud_welcom.xml) into a custom UI folder.</span></p><p>EQ2 will complain it isn't compatiable and can't load it... but it kills the new one!</p></blockquote><p>Hrm interesting....</p>

[NamaeZero]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>tkia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hah I tried editing the welcome screen out of the mainhud.xml but I just got a big black box ingame instead of no window as my intent...  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Don't do that, take a copy of the welcome window itself and play with the size and location settings in the file.</p><p>I managed to mod mine into oblivion doing that which totally defeats their purpose in removing the switch.   At least when I could turn it off at login I would occasionally open it up and look at it for some reason, now it seems to be a minute number of pixels located somewhere off the edge of my screen .....</p></blockquote><p>OMG THIS WORKED.</p><p>Ok if you are using a custom ui move the "eq2ui_mainhud_welcom.xml" file to your custom UI folder (ie eq2maps ect..)</p><p>Then open up the .xml you just copied (not the original) in an editor of some sort (notepad or wordpad are fine)</p><p>Then find this, it should be at the very top</p><p><strong>MaximumSize="1024,1024"</strong> Name="Welcome" PackLocation="center,center" ScrollExtent="820,600" Size="820,600" UserMovable="true" UserScrollable="false" version="2.0"></p><p>And change the bolded part to</p><p>MaximumSize="0,0"</p><p>and it should look like</p><p><strong>MaximumSize="0,0"</strong> Name="Welcome" PackLocation="center,center" ScrollExtent="820,600" Size="820,600" UserMovable="true" UserScrollable="false" version="2.0"></p><p>Save your file and no more welcome screen... (at all, even if you want to actually look at it later lol)</p></blockquote><p>Confirmed as working. This slays the Welcome UI window quite permanently. Thanks so much! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>I wonder if there's a quick and dirty way to mod in the old XP bar?</p>

[Lader]

<p>thank you for helping me get rid of that stupid SC screen. I disabled it from day 1, only to be bombarded by it again today.</p><p>very sneaky of you Smokejumper to try to force us to see the SC window. youre definately not helping yourself. Just one more mark among many other mistakes you've made in the past couple weeks.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>NamaeZero wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wonder if there's a quick and dirty way to mod in the old XP bar?</p></blockquote><p>All you have to do is move the old XP bar into your custom UI folder and it will work fine.. no modding needed.. just drop it in <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Geothe]

<p>good call on editting the xml to get rid of the moronic $med bucks pop-up window.</p><p>definiltey doing this when i get home.</p>

[Kordran]

<p>Of course, the next update will probably check to make sure that the window is of a certain minimum size and in a visible location on the screen; they can't have you disable their advertising, now can they? In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they made changes to ensure that this window wasn't moddable whatsoever and always pulled its configuration from the standard, default location.</p>

[sompet_eq2]

<p>Just add a OnShow="togglewelcomewindow" to the root tag, start of eq2ui_mainhud_welcome.xml should look like this:<span ><?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><Page OnShow="togglewelcomewindow" Activated="true"</span></p><p>The welcome screen will close itself immediately, flashing only a bit.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>If we get to a point of paying to play a game that we have to go out of our way to hide from its probably time to ask why we are still playing. Just a thought.</p><p>Disabling this switch was not a good move IMO. We all understand you want to shove the SC thing front and center, we get it but that window has had other issues (increases load time, pops up everytime you switch toons, etc). And forcing it on your players wont get people to buy more, it will cause them to either find some work around to it or stop buying anything from you and go elsewhere.</p><p>Seriously, SOE needs better marketing people and a better understanding of (1) What their paying community wants (2) What their paying community is willing to pay to get it.</p><p>I just dont really see a mass exodus from WoW to EQ2 going to happen anytime soon. Please stop wasting dev cycles on low end content and fixes we dont want or need.</p>

[Zorastiz]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>NamaeZero wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wonder if there's a quick and dirty way to mod in the old XP bar?</p></blockquote><p>All you have to do is move the old XP bar into your custom UI folder and it will work fine.. no modding needed.. just drop it in <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Where do I find the OLD one?</p>

[Malacha]

<p><cite>sompet_eq2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just add a OnShow="togglewelcomewindow" to the root tag, start of eq2ui_mainhud_welcome.xml should look like this:<span></span></p><p>The welcome screen will close itself immediately, flashing only a bit.</p></blockquote><p>I like this fix. It still pops up so SOE is happy, but I don't have to see it so I'm happy =D Sharing this with my guildies</p>

[sompet_eq2]

<p><cite>Malachani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>sompet_eq2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just add a OnShow="togglewelcomewindow" to the root tag, start of eq2ui_mainhud_welcome.xml should look like this:<span></span></p><p>The welcome screen will close itself immediately, flashing only a bit.</p></blockquote><p>I like this fix. It still pops up so SOE is happy, but I don't have to see it so I'm happy =D Sharing this with my guildies</p></blockquote><p>I just uploaded it to <a href="http://www.eq2interface.com/downloads/info4987-Autoclosingwelcomescreen.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2interface.com/downloa...comescreen.html</a></p>

[sompet_eq2]

<p><cite>Zorastiz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>NamaeZero wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wonder if there's a quick and dirty way to mod in the old XP bar?</p></blockquote><p>All you have to do is move the old XP bar into your custom UI folder and it will work fine.. no modding needed.. just drop it in <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Where do I find the OLD one?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.eq2interface.com/downloads/info4988-Oldpre-GU57defaultexperiencebar.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2interface.com/downloa...eriencebar.html</a></p>

[Ahlana]

<p>BOOM sompet is on top of it!</p>