Requiem of Reflection and ACT...

[Kunaak]

<p>this has been driving me nuts. I cant seem to find any evidence this spell actually ever works.</p><p>theres no wording in combat logs that I can find that hints that requiem absorbed anything - ever.</p><p>so I tried to scour over ACT for a few hours worth of pulls, and theres nothing in ACT that seems to pick it up.</p><p>this absorbs arcane - nox - elemental magic damage. right now, we're pulling something so [Removed for Content] nasty, that I am trying to give every inch of survivability I can to the group - and requiem seems like a good idea - but I still have the same issue I've always had....</p><p>I simply cannot seem to verify its ever actually done anything - on any pull, anywhere.... ever.</p>

[Artalis the Elder]

<p>The problem is that it procs Stoneskin</p><p>Do an avoidance report and you'll see it. Only problem is that you can't determine if its RoR, or PoS or Unyielding Benediction or some other proc preventing the damage.</p>

[Inggy]

<p>Yep I've never seen any text feedback that said Requiem ever did a thing.</p><p>When it procs you can see the icon in your maintained window. The last time I actually seen it proc when used was on Trakanon back in the day.  I've never seen a single Requiem proc in SF in any raid zone.</p><p>IMO its broken but who knows.</p>

[Gargamel]

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[Autheas]

<p>Thats because RoR is a two part spell, you have to be hit with the effect to proc the part that will assorb the damage. and the part that assorbs the damage has a durration less than the time of mob's AOEs, so it will never proc. There were a couple of mobs in that were utter cure fests that it would proc on (thinking Tythus and Mynzak in PoTAO) but in SF there is nothing that comes fast enough to make the spell useful.</p>

[Inggy]

<p><cite>Autheas wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thats because RoR is a two part spell, you have to be hit with the effect to proc the part that will assorb the damage. and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">the part that assorbs the damage has a durration less than the time of mob's AOEs, so it will never proc</span>. There were a couple of mobs in that were utter cure fests that it would proc on (thinking Tythus and Mynzak in PoTAO) but <span style="text-decoration: underline;">in SF there is nothing that comes fast enough to make the spell useful</span>.</p></blockquote><p>After reading your reply I decided to log in and re-read this ability so see what changes SF might have done to it if any.</p><p>Requiem of Reflection Master</p><p>A song that grants the troubador's group a chance to reflect profession spells for a short duration after having taken any non-physical hostile spell. Damage by non-profession spells is instead absorbed.</p><p><Snip></p><p>Effects:</p><p>When receiving a hostile spell this spell has a 13% chance to cast Requiem of Reflection on target.  Lasts for 33.0 seconds.</p><p>Will absorb elemental, noxious and arcane damage.  This spell will absorb a total of 1 attack.</p><p>Reflects the effect.  Applies to Profession and NPC racial spells only.</p><p>There are quite a few raid mobs in SF where 3-4 dets (not including curses) happen AE w/i 1 minute.  That means SF mobs easily meet the 33 second duration.  Unless I'm totally misreading this spell.</p><p>Again I'll state, I've never seen this affect proc anything in my maintained window or any text message that stated "You absorbed XX" on any SF raid when I put it up.  I did put it up quite frequently a month ago to see if it actually helped, especially if my group was down a healer.  During the testing it never proc'd. </p><p>Does thid mean it didn't proc or just that it no longer puts an affect icon in your maintained window .... who knows. </p><p>Without the proc icon in your maintained window or a text message, there's no way of telling if this ability actually did anything.  All SoE needs to do it to add a text stating  "Your Requiem of Reflection (reflected and/or absorbed) xxx damage when it procs.</p>

[El'mindeeya]

<p>The only time I've seen this spell do anything is in battle grounds.  I was running along, and a warlock jumped out from behind a tree and started casting something.  I saw him and started running towards him, knowing I was about to be oneshotted.  Before I reached him, the spell finished casting, and he fell over dead.  I don't know what he cast, but it was the only explanation I have is that he oneshotted himself off of RoR.  Since that day, I always enter BGs with RoR on and it definatly seems to make a difference in my survivability.</p>

[Inggy]

<p>Update with Screen Shots</p><p>Proc hit.</p><p><img src="http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp281/Oyce_photos/Troub_Issues/EQ2_000007.jpg" /></p>

[Inggy]

<p>Multiple procs</p><p><img src="http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp281/Oyce_photos/Troub_Issues/EQ2_000009.jpg" /></p>

[Inggy]

<p>This test was after LU57 update.  Seems you can now hear and see RoR when it procs.  The icon in your maintained window is back.... but there are still issues.</p><p>You can see one stoneskin of 40 pts in the first shot, but RoR is still up.  Unless I missed an earlier proc the icon should be gone with the 40 pt stoneskin, if this stoneskin was from RoR.</p><p>In the second shot RoR is up on several in the group but no stoneskin message.  Mind you we are repositioning during the fight so most were probably OOR.</p><p>On this raid I had a Dirge in my group and I seen quite a few 26k stoneskins during this HM fight.  The issue is, were these stoneskins my RoR proc or the Dirges PoS.  No way to know.  I did not see any "You absorbed or reflected X" only the standard stoneskin messages.</p><p>I noticed that many of the proc icons hit and disappeared immediately.  Implying it stoneskined/reflected an affect but no message in my chat window.  These were too fast for me to see the name of the person with the proc on them so I assume they proc'd on someone else in the group.</p><p>Was RoR helpful in this fight?  Could be or it could have been the Dirge.  Either way the proc affect is there so you can see it when it procs.  Now if SoE would just add something to the chat message to differentiate Requiem from other stoneskin procs.</p><p>I'll check this fight again when I don't have a Dirge in my group.</p><p>O</p>

[Artalis the Elder]

<p>Yeah it would be nice if this could be looked at.  We run with 2 troubs and neither one of us are seeing any ROR stoneskin procs on Vaclaz Hard Mode.  Out of 12 people there should be SOMETHING between the 4 aoe's on this guy.</p><p>Please take a look into this.</p>

[Inggy]

<p>Again on the Sages but without a dirge.</p><p>As you can see it does proc and pretty often.  The 20K stoneskins are nice but ballanced with alot of ~100.  Is it worth running now?  I ran it all evening in PoRT proc'd pretty often on det riddled encounters.  I'll see if it procs on UD sometime this week.</p><p><img src="http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp281/Oyce_photos/Troub_Issues/EQ2_000016.jpg" /></p>

[Inggy]

<p><cite>Kiki@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah it would be nice if this could be looked at.  We run with 2 troubs and neither one of us are seeing any ROR stoneskin procs on Vaclaz Hard Mode.  Out of 12 people there should be SOMETHING between the 4 aoe's on this guy.</p><p>Please take a look into this.</p></blockquote><p>Back in UD after a bit longer of a break than expected.  I remembered your post on this fight and put up RoR.  As you can see it did proc.  After the fight I checked and it was stoneskining for 22-26k per.  Not bad.  IMO this is a useful buff to run on certain encounters ymmv.</p><p><img src="http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp281/Oyce_photos/Troub_Issues/EQ2_000017.jpg" /></p>

[Artalis the Elder]

Good info, thanks.