New Marketplace Item: Dark Elf Heritage Armor Crate

[Amnerys]

<p><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/content/en/news/banners/newerbanners/station_cash_banner.jpg" width="400" height="150" /></p> <p>Dress your best with the Dark Elf Heritage Armor Crate, featuring a full set of Innoruk's Chosen armor, available this week in the EverQuest II Marketplace.</p><p><a href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/082010/3639" target="_blank">Read More</a></p>

[Hirofortis]

<p>The set is really nice looking.  I am curious if my armorer will ever be able to make some cool stuff like this?  Maybe decommission  old armor sets that no longer sell so armorers get some upgraded recipes .<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[kcirrot]

<p>I can safely say (since I paid 1500SC for a cloak recently) that I'm no enemy of the Item shop.  But I'm wondering why things are so expensive in EQ2 versus FreeRealms.  Are you going for exclusivity?  Then I could see it, but otherwise, I think you'd make more sales if you lowered the prices a bit.</p><p>Or even added more value by making all SC items heirloom.</p>

[Warpax]

<p><cite>kcirrot wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I can safely say (since I paid 1500SC for a cloak recently) that I'm no enemy of the Item shop.  But I'm wondering why things are so expensive in EQ2 versus FreeRealms.  Are you going for exclusivity?  Then I could see it, but otherwise, I think you'd make more sales if you lowered the prices a bit.</p><p>Or even added more value by making all SC items heirloom.</p></blockquote><p>I agree. Appearance Items(at least the ones over $10) like Mounts should be Heirloom and the Bind on Equip removed.</p><p>any plans for more racial heritage armor?</p>

[Jaremai]

<p>$17 for non-heirloom appearance armor? </p><p>Reminds me of dressing my avatar in Second Life.. but for $17 I could buy about 5-10 of these.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Aerfen]

<p>I have to admit that this set is tempting.  However, I would be much more inclined to participate in Station Cash if these were <strong>micro transactions instead of MACRO</strong>.  My dark elf doesn't want the entire set, she just wants part of it.  If individual pieces were sold (at a MICRO price) then she'd be getting a new outfit.  </p><p>I understand that we are stuck with Station Cash, but I just don't think it is reasonable to charge MORE than our monthly subscription for items.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Melanchol]

<p>uhm.. why did you call it dark elf heritage armor when there is no heritage to it? why don't you guys start fabricating heritage quests too? do you guys even do any research before you crap this stuff out?</p><p><img src="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/scenery/neriakc-cleric.jpg" width="1024" height="749" /></p>

[Melanchol]

<p><img src="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/scenery/neriakc-verina.jpg" width="1024" height="749" /></p>

[Melanchol]

<p><img src="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id2343.png" width="211" height="404" /></p>

[Anestacia]

<p>I particurarly love the fact that that people have been asking for Racial Armor RECIPES for tradeskilling for 5 years, yet now we get it as a macro-transaction of 20 dollars and its not even heirloom/non attunable.  I guess from here on out all the really nice things that I would love to work toward will be slapped on the Marketplace for a fee. </p><p>Heres a tip; people play this game in order to set goals for great items.  This does not just include raid goals which is in the minority in eq2.  As soon as these nice looking rewards are taken away from being obtainable in game then more and more people will not have a goal to achieve and just quit...leaving your Marketplace nice and full of unbought items. And on another note, for everyone you might sell at $17 you would have probably sold 3 or 4 more for $10, thus equalling a bigger profit.  Maybe one day $oE will get the point.</p>

[Roslyn]

<p>aw, i was beta testing the eq2x and saw that armor on darklight wood NPC's. i thought for a second we might have some new fabled armor looks coming, but naturally it goes to SC. how about some art resources to the rest of the game too? really cool looking armor btw...</p>

[Mustang8259]

<p>I agree with the poster above, SC armor being more expensive than your regular subscription is abolutely rediculous.  Not to mention crafters can't really make similar items (with the rare exception of a couple furniture items for carpenters).  I realize this is helping fund the game, but y'all are starting to cross a line with your greedy prices...</p>

[msgnomer]

<p>Great "heritage" screenshots Melancholic!  I have to admit when I saw this sc armor, my first thought was WOW rather than heritage EQ.</p><p>I still have a fondess for the half-elf bell-bottom armor with odd padded chain helmet, and the gnome "pilgrim" outfit.  The starter male dark elf outfit was always a favorite of mine as well. </p>

[Melanchol]

point is, how dare they refer to it as heritage armor. there is nothing heritage about them at all. it is an insult to the players to name these as heritage items.

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Drat was hoping for the leather crate the one that looks like a long-sleeve midriff keyhole shirt with Chaps/thong-loincloth combo... :p</span></p>

[Melanchol]

<p><img src="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id2351.png" width="239" height="435" /></p>

[Melanchol]

<p><img src="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id2391.png" width="196" height="402" /></p>

[Melanchol]

try to get it right next time. heritage is heritage. what you are offering for overpriced smedbucks is not heritage

[Warpax]

<p>why are you people posting all these old EQ1 darkelf pics?  EQ2 is a alternate timeline/reality.  Maybe this is heritage armor for THESE darkelves. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p>

[msgnomer]

<p><cite>Melancholie@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>point is, how dare they refer to it as heritage armor. there is nothing heritage about them at all. it is an insult to the players to name these as heritage items.</p></blockquote><p>I was agreeing with you.  Your images shows the old armor and the SC armor doesn't resemble it much.</p><p>I wonder what the logic was behind calling it heritage armor.  Perhaps someone thought WOW style armor would sell better than true heritage style, but that the heritabe label would also attract attention.  I don't like it better, but it's all in the merchant's perception of what will sell better.</p><p>Maybe we could get lucky and have true heritage armor questable or craftable. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[msgnomer]

<p><cite>Warpax wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>why are you people posting all these old EQ1 darkelf pics?  EQ2 is a alternate timeline/reality.  Maybe this is heritage armor for THESE darkelves. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>because earlier "heritage" items did indeed refer back to actual items in EQ? </p><p>BTW, EQ2's history is EQ1. </p>

[Warpax]

<p><cite>msgnomer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Warpax wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>why are you people posting all these old EQ1 darkelf pics?  EQ2 is a alternate timeline/reality.  Maybe this is heritage armor for THESE darkelves. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>because earlier "heritage" items did indeed refer back to actual items in EQ?</p></blockquote><p>true, but there were differences in stats or looks on all of them too. Cut them some slack.. is just a word and the armor set looks great</p>

[Anestacia]

<p><cite>Warpax wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>why are you people posting all these old EQ1 darkelf pics?  <strong>EQ2 is a alternate timeline/reality</strong>.  Maybe this is heritage armor for THESE darkelves. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>You are wrong.  EQ1 history IS eq2's history.  We are only in a timeline split (alternate reality) after the events in the Plane of Time.  So yes, the eq1 pictures are a valid argument for heritage.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

<p><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I particurarly love the fact that that people have been asking for Racial Armor RECIPES for tradeskilling for 5 years, yet now we get it as a macro-transaction of 20 dollars and its not even heirloom/non attunable.  I guess from here on out all the really nice things that I would love to work toward will be slapped on the Marketplace for a fee. </p><p>Heres a tip; people play this game in order to set goals for great items.  This does not just include raid goals which is in the minority in eq2.  As soon as these nice looking rewards are taken away from being obtainable in game then more and more people will not have a goal to achieve and just quit...leaving your Marketplace nice and full of unbought items. And on another note, for everyone you might sell at $17 you would have probably sold 3 or 4 more for $10, thus equalling a bigger profit.  Maybe one day $oE will get the point.</p></blockquote><p>Sadly I can't but agree with that... I'm one of those asking for racial recipes for years... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Gaige]

<p><cite>Mustang8259 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I realize this is helping fund the game</p></blockquote><p>Obviously it isn't, since they're shifting to EQ2x in an attempt to get even more RMT money.</p>

[quiarrah]

<p>Aside from that . . . I would like to see more pants that look less like the old Star Trek- bloomers- in- boots and more like real pants. . like the bellbottom type or even dare-I-say a tyle like the NPC's in Maj'Dul.</p><p>I would like to have the crop top and knickers of the lady in QH that telld you where the carpet was. Or better yet. . Can I have the GENIE outfit from the Fortune Teller at the Festival??? PLEASE?????</p>

[Sydares]

<p>Here's a thought with station cash:</p><p>You're losing sales based on your prohibitive pricing model. While you'd make less per transaction if you made these prices more reasonable (hint: you're charging well over double what a normal person would consider spending for just about all of these station cash items) then you'd likely see far more transactions.</p><p>People wouln't have such negative reactions to Station Cash if you didn't make it so stupidly expensive.</p>

[Mysstie]

If I could trade this between my characters I would have probably already got it. But right now I can't decide which one wants it more. :/ As far as the cost.. well the armor set does match the cost of other armor sets at 1,000 plus the cost of a separate cloak. I wonder if the reaction about the cost would be less if they made the armor set 1,000 and made the cloak a separate item like they did with the Mermaid Scale Armor and Cloak. Not sure why the DE illusion only lasts 1 hour. That's annoying as every time you'd need to redo the illusion you have to cancel all the other spells that have an illusion on them first, redo the illusion so it's the first, then rebuff yourself. At least the Guise of the Deceiver is only half as annoying in this respect. Oh, I also bet you have to equip the cloak in your Equipment slot in order to cast the illusion instead of leaving it in your appearance slot and as far as I can tell, macros will not pull equipment out of your appearance slots to equip them. Part of *my* problem now is that I am running out of space to store things so I have to really want something before I get it and I may hold off in case a Wood-Elf set or something comes out. Hmmm..

[Kamimura]

<p>$17 for an armor set that you can't even pass on to your alts? Really guys? The marketplace just keeps getting more and more absurd... And I'm sure soon a few folks will come along saying "oh well, just don't buy it!" Yes, well, if SOE wants to make money, this is something they really need to consider. As has been pointed out, more would buy these items if they weren't so dang much, or heck at the very least heirloom! </p>

[Jaremai]

<p>In case nobody noticed yet..</p><p>The cloak that comes in this set gives Featherfall and has a clicky Dark Elf illusion.</p>

[Maroger]

<p>It is a nice looking set but I would like to see some Robes for a mage class --not just warrior armor. It reminds me of Armor used in he Kirov Opera production of Russlan and Ludmilla by Rimsky Korsakov.  It is more on the Russian Fairy Tale style of armor.</p>

[Brook]

<p>Make it heirloom and not attuned to the person who puts it on first and you have a deal, otherwise it can sit there and rot with the rest of the armor sets you have.</p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">This item set is far too expensive to qualify as a micro-transaction!</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">SOE needs to revisit their pricing structure to begin to offer items at reasonable levels around 500SC.</span></p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p>It's just a name they thought would be cool. </p><p>I swear about 30% of the items in the Marketplace (and in-game sometimes) make me wonder if the person who created/named it actually plays this game or just randomly pulls stuff out of their [censored] !</p><p>This current armor offering really takes the cake.  It looks like someone mated a hedgehog & an armadilo and then skinned and dyed the result purple. </p><p>Why the heck didn't they take the Armor the NPCs in Neriak are wearing?  My Dark Elf has been *drooling*over those outfits since Neriak first opened! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Naidirhem]

<p>The armor looks cool in the pic but I cannot see it on anyone wearing it or look at it in the dressing room.... it appears that it makes me or anyone wearing it naked.</p><p>Anyone got some advice?</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I have no problem with the armor it'self, might be a stretch to call it a heritage-look however. Wouldn't mind more sexy leather and cloth looks however... <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </span></p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Naidirhem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The armor looks cool in the pic but I cannot see it on anyone wearing it or look at it in the dressing room.... it appears that it makes me or anyone wearing it naked.</p><p>Anyone got some advice?</p></blockquote><p>What Race are you?  Are you using Original or Soga graphics? What kind of Shaders are you using? etc ..</p><p>Probably just a bug .. either with your graphics card or related to your race/graphic choices. </p><p>Try looking at it again ... if same result, try with a different race .. etc .. /bug result.</p>

[Andok]

<p>The armor looks very cool!  Unfortunately, the character that I would buy it for already has SC appearance armor that I can't trade to another character, so I'm gonna have to pass.  </p>

[Ashmen_Skimmerhorn]

<p>The prices on SC items are getting out of control. $17 for 1 outfit for one character!! It is more than a months subscription to the entire game, that's crazy.</p><p>Any items that are in house only items should be $1-$3 or cheaper, since no one but the buyer will really ever see it.</p><p>Any appearence items should be $3-$5 or cheaper, because it is just appearence and at this price you would probably sell 10x as many.</p><p>Any mounts should be $5-$8 or even cheaper.</p><p>Nothing should ever cost more than the subscriptions price.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Naidirhem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The armor looks cool in the pic but I cannot see it on anyone wearing it or look at it in the dressing room.... it appears that it makes me or anyone wearing it naked.</p><p>Anyone got some advice?</p></blockquote><p>What Race are you?  Are you using Original or Soga graphics? What kind of Shaders are you using? etc ..</p><p>Probably just a bug .. either with your graphics card or related to your race/graphic choices. </p><p>Try looking at it again ... if same result, try with a different race .. etc .. /bug result.</p></blockquote><p>I have the same problem and have tried 3 Different races</p><p>Dark Elf Male - SogaRatonga Iksar</p><p>All appear naked when trying to view the armor. My wife view it on her Erudite Female _ Non-Soga and it appeared fine.</p><p>Neither I nor her are using Shader 3.0. She is on WinXP and I am on Win7 so who knows.</p>

[Senya]

<p>Everything is for a single character.  If you buy items from other games it's one per character on the account, and often one for any character ever created because it flags your account for that item.  It's not like there's a supply and demand here.  The team designs the item only once.  It's digital.. so there's an infinite supply from then on out. No one has to go back to the factory and whip up more of the same item to meet the demand.  I've said it many times that I'm not opposed to the marketplace, and I'm not.  But as prices keep going up, and the items remain no trade or attuneable and not even hierloom, likelihood of me buying anything else keep going down.   I'm betting that although plenty of people buy, profits would see a huge increase if items were one per character and cost less.  I for one would probably have alot more fluff items from the shop if that were the case.  As it is, it's nice, but.. perspective and all.. just not worth it.</p>

[kcirrot]

<p><cite>Senya wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Everything is for a single character.  If you buy items from other games it's one per character on the account, and often one for any character ever created because it flags your account for that item.  It's not like there's a supply and demand here.  The team designs the item only once.  It's digital.. so there's an infinite supply from then on out. No one has to go back to the factory and whip up more of the same item to meet the demand.  I've said it many times that I'm not opposed to the marketplace, and I'm not.  But as prices keep going up, and the items remain no trade or attuneable and not even hierloom, likelihood of me buying anything else keep going down.   I'm betting that although plenty of people buy, profits would see a huge increase if items were one per character and cost less.  I for one would probably have alot more fluff items from the shop if that were the case.  As it is, it's nice, but.. perspective and all.. just not worth it.</p></blockquote><p>QFT</p><p>I paid for the Collector's edition for Sentinel's fate because I love having a free mount for each of my characters.  The free clothing set is a bonus.</p><p>Flag these purchases as one per character and make them claim items.  Keep the price to $15 or less for clothes, $5 or less for a weapon, and $25 at most for a functional mount.  I want to give you my money, but these things are a poor value.</p>

[Valthur]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Naidirhem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The armor looks cool in the pic but I cannot see it on anyone wearing it or look at it in the dressing room.... it appears that it makes me or anyone wearing it naked.</p><p>Anyone got some advice?</p></blockquote><p>What Race are you?  Are you using Original or Soga graphics? What kind of Shaders are you using? etc ..</p><p>Probably just a bug .. either with your graphics card or related to your race/graphic choices. </p><p>Try looking at it again ... if same result, try with a different race .. etc .. /bug result.</p></blockquote><p>I have the same problem and have tried 3 Different races</p><p>Dark Elf Male - SogaRatonga Iksar</p><p>All appear naked when trying to view the armor. My wife view it on her Erudite Female _ Non-Soga and it appeared fine.</p><p>Neither I nor her are using Shader 3.0. She is on WinXP and I am on Win7 so who knows.</p></blockquote><p>Run a full file scan then it will DL the files for the armor. as far as it being called heritage, i think its more because the amor it self is called innoruuks chosen, as innoruuk made the DE race it is kinda heritage, apperance aside, i can see where the name comes from.</p>

[Caela]

<p>My little dark elf inquisitor is just begging me to buy this for her.  I keep telling her no.  She keeps trying it on, batting her eyelashes at me, telling me how pretty she looks in it.  I tell her I'm not made of money.  I already pay $15 a month to keep her alive...  and while she has never ending opportunities to make plat, I do not...</p><p>Basically, i would buy way more stuff if it was cheaper and more versatile (ie, hand me downs).  But even though I love that cloak (er, I mean my dark elf loves that cloak), I won't buy it until it's cheaper, or at least heirloom/unattuned.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Valthur wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Naidirhem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The armor looks cool in the pic but I cannot see it on anyone wearing it or look at it in the dressing room.... it appears that it makes me or anyone wearing it naked.</p><p>Anyone got some advice?</p></blockquote><p>What Race are you?  Are you using Original or Soga graphics? What kind of Shaders are you using? etc ..</p><p>Probably just a bug .. either with your graphics card or related to your race/graphic choices. </p><p>Try looking at it again ... if same result, try with a different race .. etc .. /bug result.</p></blockquote><p>I have the same problem and have tried 3 Different races</p><p>Dark Elf Male - SogaRatonga Iksar</p><p>All appear naked when trying to view the armor. My wife view it on her Erudite Female _ Non-Soga and it appeared fine.</p><p>Neither I nor her are using Shader 3.0. She is on WinXP and I am on Win7 so who knows.</p></blockquote><p>Run a full file scan then it will DL the files for the armor. as far as it being called heritage, i think its more because the amor it self is called innoruuks chosen, as innoruuk made the DE race it is kinda heritage, apperance aside, i can see where the name comes from.</p></blockquote><p>Ahh I see... I skip patching unless it is required. I am impatient and the game starts up so much faster without the launcher lol.. and /camping lets me change accounts on the fly that way also.</p><p>Will do scan when I get home, thanks for the heads up.</p>

[Aerfen]

<p><cite>Caela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My little dark elf inquisitor is just begging me to buy this for her.  I keep telling her no.  She keeps trying it on, batting her eyelashes at me, telling me how pretty she looks in it.  I tell her I'm not made of money.  I already pay $15 a month to keep her alive...  and while she has never ending opportunities to make plat, I do not...</p><p>Basically, i would buy way more stuff if it was cheaper and more versatile (ie, hand me downs).  But even though I love that cloak (er, I mean my dark elf loves that cloak), I won't buy it until it's cheaper, or at least heirloom/unattuned.</p></blockquote><p>That is EXACTLY what my Dark Elf Vyvaria has been doing to me!</p><p>And I agree completely.  If the prices were more in line with Micro transactions, I would be more inclined to participate.</p>

[Sola]

<p>I have to agree about the "greediness".  It's really becoming ridiculous!  I've supported SOE for many years and have paid subscriptions even when I did not really use them in hopes of them seeing the light.  EQ1 had the MMO world and WoW people knew that.  They took what made EQ1 so great and made it better.  EQ2 focused more on competition with FF, DAoC, etc.. but it kept a small bit of EQ1.  Now, EQ1's UI, interaction with NPC's, difficulty in leveling solo and/or finding groups has made it pretty obsolete to new players and only the die-hards still play.  EQ2, though still a great game, is being turned into "how much can we charge our player base and still keep them coming back for more" scenario.  Crafted items are rather useless (though it's still the best crafting engine I've seen so far), less is being done for veterans, and more is being changed for "fly-by night" players who really won't bring in any potential profit or longterm stay given the temporary shot of adrenaline.</p><p>Anyhow, more focus needs to be made on veterans and what keeps them coming back for more.  The new separate worlds for newbies is fine with me as it lets new people play to see if they like it or not and keeps vets protected in their own worlds.  Server mergers should happen though as player base on smaller servers are like ghost towns.  Efforts should now be spent on bringing back the 'epicness' we once had and stop stressing your vets with more and more fees.  True we don't have to buy from the marketplace, but every item created for the marketplace is one less item we are able to earn in game...</p>

[Kander]

<p>So perhaps "Heritage" set was not the best title for this. What we were shooting for was a "racial" set. It had zero intention of being an homage to EQ dark elves. It is for EQ2 Dark Elves.</p><p>So think of it as an EQ2 Dark Elf "racial" set.</p>

[Leko]

<p><cite>Kander wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So perhaps "Heritage" set was not the best title for this. What we were shooting for was a "racial" set. It had zero intention of being an homage to EQ dark elves. It is for EQ2 Dark Elves.</p><p>So think of it as an EQ2 Dark Elf "racial" set.</p></blockquote><p>Does this mean we will see more racial armor sets?  I hope so. </p>

[Rhan]

<p>Can we get some new cool stuff for the $15 i shell out each month? K, thanks.  You know that'd be nice, something new for the money I already pay you a holes.  Racial armor is an amazing idea, well if you could you know, quest for it from a racially or faction appropriate area.  Something just really doesn't sit well with the idea of racial armor coming from some mystical void after I shell out $20.  Want to have tons of the same [Removed for Content] 4 armor graphics rehashed over and over!  Pay us a recurring sub!  Want something new and unique every once in awhile that actually could have a positive impact on game lore/quests?! Screw you give us mo money!</p><p>Sarcasm aside... Could someone start doing stuff like this for the regular game, you know the one we already pay for?</p>

[ratdeath]

<p><cite>Caela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My little dark elf inquisitor is just begging me to buy this for her.  I keep telling her no.  She keeps trying it on, batting her eyelashes at me, telling me how pretty she looks in it.  I tell her I'm not made of money.  I already pay $15 a month to keep her alive...  and while she has never ending opportunities to make plat, I do not...</p><p>Basically, i would buy way more stuff if it was cheaper and more versatile (ie, hand me downs).  But even though I love that cloak (er, I mean my dark elf loves that cloak), I won't buy it until it's cheaper, or at least heirloom/unattuned.</p></blockquote><p>Why not make it possible to buy StationCash and sell it on the broker, I buy 2000 SC and sell it for X plat so others who might not want to spend a lot of real $$ on items can use the Marketplace as well through making plat ingame.</p><p>Some might be able to fund their subscription that way, buy gametime for plat that people have already bought through the marketplace and placed on the broker.</p><p>More ways for people to keep playing and use the marketplace while it might be a better alternative for SoE and the players who buy plat from third party plat sellers, if anyone do, at least there is spam about it so some must do it for them to bother spamming?</p><p>This way the marketplace is not only for those with a thick wallet or crazy enough to spend $$ on some pixels that looks great on a ratonga!</p><p>Some will hate this and that's ok <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But the marketplace is already there so why not let it go both ways?</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Squeek!!!</strong></span></p>

[Befallen_Valgav]

<p>My personal opinon is this... the price of these "fluff" items is way too much. I think SOE would make more money in the long run if they adopted a "wal-mart" type of policy make money off of volume as opposed to insane prices.</p><p>Now before I get bashed I say "Insane" because well Im married with kids/house/dog/etc and money is very tight right now. If the prices where say $5 bucks for appearence armor LOTS more people would buy them. But maybe thats why Im not a big coorperation designed to make tons of money no matter what it takes.</p><p>Well so much for my wishful thinking.</p>

[Neiloch]

<p>they don't price it like this because its NOT making money....</p>

[MindFury]

<p>I happen to like the look of this armor, shockingly.  Most armor they seem to come up with is hideously bland and not at all wanted..as a female player, it's really the only decent armor offered (even tho aspects of it I'd love to change for as usual SOE goes way over board when trying to finally make something decent looking) I'd really prefer to finally see some crap that's not totally male based or half [Removed for Content] female based (the dresses/skirts/tops currently offered are hideous) I'd snag this elf armor if it wasn't so costly. Not that $17 is a fortune, but I refuse to pay more for a fluff item, than I pay monthly for a subscription.</p><p>So long as there are people out there with cc's, and the cash to waste, SOE will keep prices high. And so long as there are people with cc's spending, they will continue to add these items to marketplace, rather than offer them in game to those who don't use cc's. Anything they can do to make a buck. Which really saddens me, a player of eq2 for just shy of 6 yrs. Very little in marketplace I find even worth getting, but there are a few items, and sadly they are only offered there (marketplace) and I find it pathetic they're only available to folks who're willing to shell out even more money to SOE. Leaving the rest of us pretty much screwed for the nicer looking items.</p>

[Shareana]

This post has moved: <a href="/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=445320&post_id=5384557" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=44532...post_id=5384557</a> Let's try to be constructive rather then insulting. Thank you!

[Araxes]

<p>I think this is some of the most beautiful looking armor introduced to the game, so far.</p><p>I have to agree, though: I, too, wish that it had been first introduced as an <em>achievable </em>set, rather than as a pay-for-play item.</p><p>A quest line would have been spectacular.  Even were it relegated only to dark elves -- the notion that other racial armor sets with their own quests lines might <em>become </em>available would surely have made players extremely happy - and excited to have soemthing to look forward to, especially now - rather than feeling put aside.</p><p>Lastly, the cost could be acceptable -- if this were an heirloom item.  If not, then I feel it should be $10, in line with the other crates.</p>

[Wurm]

<p>I bought it using my free station cash I've been saving plus some I unfortunately received when the company I buy my monthly time cards from screwed up.</p><p>Now if they would only make a matching shield and weapon. They always seem to forget that.</p><p>If I had to have spent real money... I probably would have bought it anyway. I stopped drinking, I make good money and EQ2 is my hobby.</p><p>I still think SOE needs to figure out lower prices mean more sales mean more profit. But *shrug* they haven't proven to me yet that there is any one up there making the decisions with half a brain.</p>

[guillero]

<p><cite>Araxes@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I think this is some of the most beautiful looking armor introduced to the game, so far.</p><p>I have to agree, though: I, too, wish that it had been first introduced as an <em>achievable </em>set, rather than as a pay-for-play item.</p><p>A quest line would have been spectacular.  Even were it relegated only to dark elves -- the notion that other racial armor sets with their own quests lines might <em>become </em>available would surely have made players extremely happy - and excited to have soemthing to look forward to, especially now - rather than feeling put aside.</p><p>Lastly, the cost could be acceptable -- if this were an heirloom item.  If not, then I feel it should be $10, in line with the other crates.</p></blockquote><p>Exactly,</p><p>The whole new level60-70 armor questline in KoS they introduced a couple months back?  All the armor sets are old recycled crap! They just look the same as the old Mastercrafted stuff. Just with a different color texture.They didn't even bother to use the new attachment system to give a bit of flair to the shoulders.</p><p>Just one of many examples. And this whole EQ2 Extended debacle about to unfold next week. Was just the final drop for me and my gf.</p><p>We are done with $OE!</p>

[Wurm]

<p><cite>Araxes@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A quest line would have been spectacular.  Even were it relegated only to dark elves -- the notion that other racial armor sets with their own quests lines might <em>become </em>available would surely have made players extremely happy - and excited to have something to look forward to!</p></blockquote><p>This!</p>

[Wurm]

<p><cite>Jerokane@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Araxes@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I think this is some of the most beautiful looking armor introduced to the game, so far.</p><p>I have to agree, though: I, too, wish that it had been first introduced as an <em>achievable </em>set, rather than as a pay-for-play item.</p><p>A quest line would have been spectacular.  Even were it relegated only to dark elves -- the notion that other racial armor sets with their own quests lines might <em>become </em>available would surely have made players extremely happy - and excited to have something to look forward to, especially now - rather than feeling put aside.</p><p>Lastly, the cost could be acceptable -- if this were an heirloom item.  If not, then I feel it should be $10, in line with the other crates.</p></blockquote><p>Exactly,</p><p>The whole new level60-70 armor quest-line in KoS they introduced a couple months back?  All the armor sets are old recycled crap! They just look the same as the old Master-crafted stuff. Just with a different color texture.They didn't even bother to use the new attachment system to give a bit of flair to the shoulders.</p><p>Just one of many examples. And this whole EQ2 Extended debacle about to unfold next week. Was just the final drop for me and my gf.</p><p>We are done with $OE!</p></blockquote><p>The armor sets from the new KOS quest line are exact copies of the raid only fabled RELIC armor. Something most non raiders never got a chance to see let alone wear. I was happy to see it added since I was missing a few pieces of the fabled set. Of course it is the old system and recycled but most of it looks quite nice.</p>

[Rolande']

<p> Gotta love the way the game is heading. They have artist who can make great looking armor, but they dont have the time to make t9 pieces not copy/paste from t1 crap. There are weapons named "Flame anealed" etc.. that look like gray crap fromt he start of the game... and then when you bring it up they want you to do the job for them and tell them which pieces need addressed. I say do your job, dont expect us to do it for you. I dont know why I even bother, or for that matter why they bother to make a thread for feedback.</p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Araxes@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A quest line would have been spectacular.  Even were it relegated only to dark elves -- the notion that other racial armor sets with their own quests lines might <em>become </em>available would surely have made players extremely happy - and excited to have something to look forward to!</p></blockquote><p>This!</p></blockquote><p>In theory this would be nice but don't you people remember the debacle they made out of the 'Class only' Helms?</p><p>Even *if* they had gotten their butts in gear and cranked out 1/3rd of the Racial Armor in time for let's say the Velious Xpac and listed it as one of their Main sells for that Xpac.  Making it so that -only- those Races would be able to wear -that- armor graphic and even made seperate questlines or specific areas of where they'd drop.  They'd have to tell all the other Races to sit on their thumbs for at least another 2 Xpacs down the road to be able to get the remaining Race Armor & subsquent questlines put in place and finished. </p><p>By which time they'd give it SC or LoN and make it 'Raceless' Armor, anyway. </p><p>So, at least this way they've burst all the disappointed dreams early instead of waiting 2 years to find out that your class/race isn't as unique as you thought. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Captain Apple Darkberry]

<p><cite>Rhanin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Could someone start doing stuff like this for the regular game, you know the one we already pay for?</p></blockquote><p>^^^</p><p>Seriously?  You guys start the major coolness of making racial armor sets...and you stick them on the WIEHWEIFH Marketplace?</p><p>Please consider doing things like for the people who have already been paying you every month for the past 5 years.  The current state of the game is crap...nearly everything "cool" is on LoN or SmedBucksPlace...core mechanics, graphics and gameplay features are being changed 5 years into the game.  Were they really broken?  No.  Rethink where you place your limited man hours please.  Take the "cool stuff" people from Market Place and put them back in the regular game, and take some of the ZOMG we must change the spell graphics to look stupid! (after 5 years?) people and stick them in LoN or the Market Place.  kkthxbai</p>

[guillero]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>This post has moved:<a rel="nofollow" href="/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=445320&post_id=5384557" target="_blank">/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=44532...post_id=5384557</a>Let's try to be constructive rather then insulting. Thank you!</blockquote><p>What was so insulting about it? That $OE is charging 15 to 20 bucks now for a piece of appearance armor / cloak?</p><p>And 25 bucks for a [Removed for Content] mount?  And then dare to call it micro transactions? While it all exceeds the Monthly subscription fee?</p><p>And that the competition, like Turbine, at least understands the concept <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Micro</span></strong></span> transaction and charges just 10% of the price on their items of what $OE is charging in the Market Place?</p><p>I think I was pretty constructive in explaining that.</p><p>Nothing insulting about it. It's just the plain truth about the way $OE is heading with their games and how they are [Removed for Content] off more and more of their long loyal customers in favor of preying on the addicted few at emptying their wallets.</p><p>We have been paying 15 bucks a month for 6 years for this game!  Have been plea'ing, almost begging for years for more armor variation INGAME !  Especially for crafters ! All my crafted MC gear looks the same ol' same ol' endless recycled crap from 6 years ago. Through all the tiers !</p><p>Instead they keep continuing on endless recycling this old crap INGAME with lame excuse after lame excuse.  And then put all the cool stuff (we have been asking for as PAYING SUBSCRIBERS), that wasn't suppose to be possible, on the Market Place for idiotic high prices that have nothing to do anymore with the concept of Micro transactions.</p><p>Rest my case.</p>

[BlueEternal]

<p>But you can be unique from everyone else! /sarcasmoff</p><p>The marketplace is a joke.</p>

[Rezikai]

<p><cite>Kander wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So perhaps "Heritage" set was not the best title for this. What we were shooting for was a "racial" set. It had zero intention of being an homage to EQ dark elves. It is for EQ2 Dark Elves.</p><p>So think of it as an EQ2 Dark Elf "racial" set.</p></blockquote><p>Ya know... it kind of reminds me of the description of the Dark Elven Underfoot provinces armor worn. Talked about in the EQ1 write ups.</p>

[Carthr]

<p>Can we buy a working Network Status Page off of Station Cash?</p>

[docpaulpur2]

<p><cite>Jerokane@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>This post has moved:<a rel="nofollow" href="/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=445320&post_id=5384557" target="_blank">/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=44532...post_id=5384557</a>Let's try to be constructive rather then insulting. Thank you!</blockquote><p>What was so insulting about it? That $OE is charging 15 to 20 bucks now for a piece of appearance armor / cloak?</p><p>And 25 bucks for a [Removed for Content] mount?  And then dare to call it micro transactions? While it all exceeds the Monthly subscription fee?</p><p>And that the competition, like Turbine, at least understands the concept <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Micro</span></strong></span> transaction and charges just 10% of the price on their items of what $OE is charging in the Market Place?</p><p>I think I was pretty constructive in explaining that.</p><p>Nothing insulting about it. It's just the plain truth about the way $OE is heading with their games and how they are [Removed for Content] off more and more of their long loyal customers in favor of preying on the addicted few at emptying their wallets.</p><p>We have been paying 15 bucks a month for 6 years for this game!  Have been plea'ing, almost begging for years for more armor variation INGAME !  Especially for crafters ! All my crafted MC gear looks the same ol' same ol' endless recycled crap from 6 years ago. Through all the tiers !</p><p>Instead they keep continuing on endless recycling this old crap INGAME with lame excuse after lame excuse.  And then put all the cool stuff (we have been asking for as PAYING SUBSCRIBERS), that wasn't suppose to be possible, on the Market Place for idiotic high prices that have nothing to do anymore with the concept of Micro transactions.</p><p>Rest my case.</p></blockquote><p>+1. And please stop those insulting "Don't insult" threats/moves when it's you that actually start to insult us by 17$ buy-only fluff</p>

[Murkie]

<p>Such a nice looking set, shame I can't justify spending the money ontop of the money I already pay (and have been paying for years) to get it.  This isn't <em>micro</em> anymore...</p>

[Jaremai]

<p>A bit of DA, but when did they ever say these were "micro" ?</p><p>And even if they said it, why do you expect them to hold to something they said?</p><p>I'll also point out, again, that this $17 set isn't totally fluff.. the cloak gives you featherfall and a DE illusion.  Featherfall takes it out of "fluff" and into "item with useful stats" category.</p><p>End of DA</p>

[Sola]

<p>All I have to say is FFXIV is being released soon...</p>

[Zabjade]

<p>Not exactly what the EQ1 Leather (Pre-Luclin) looked like, but it is pretty close! Something like this I would like.</p><p>Tier'Dal Leather(Rough Sketch-may have to color some time...)</p><p><img src="http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs36/f/2008/244/1/1/Teir__Dal_Leather_by_DPRagan.jpg" width="650" height="615" /></p>

[Ahlana]

<p>Can you all look into making some of these sets ala-carte? I mean I really only want a few pieces of this set... it would rock with some other things.. But I don't need/want it all... Don't want Head/BP/Arms/Cloak .. but the other pieces I could make work..</p><p>If you guys could start making these sets as purchasable seperately that would be beyond awesome.</p>

[Winter]

<p><span style="color: #cc99ff; font-size: medium;">Bright neon pink armor made for Fae, with purple vines and flowers for shoulderpieces. And a long skirt. And... And... LASER BEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMS!</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff; font-size: medium;">From my forehead.</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff; font-size: medium;">.... That is all!</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff; font-size: medium;">(All kidding aside, I love this armor set and hope to see more equally detailed racial heritage sets.)</span></p>