What Blue Stats to Focus on

[Wasuna]

<p>My wife is an Assassin and we are going to stat doing some experiments to find a better blue stat combination to get her DPS up a bit. Her DPS mod is way high, her DA is 100%+, her crit bonus is ~50 and her potency is ~35. Her crit chance is of course above 100%.</p><p>Her haste is only around 65 so we have been working on haste items and adornments for her. Her DPS is usually around 40% autoattack, 60% combat arts. I have seen parses where the Assassins had slightly lower Autoattack DPS but their combat art DPS rocked hers by about 2:1 ratio.</p><p>My conclusion was that she needs to forget the haste (unless a nice items drops that has it) and focus on potency, Crit Bonus and spell reuse. I'm gonna blow some adornment materials and work with her to change her adornments after a bunch of runs on training dumbies to see if that does indeen jump her DPS up.</p><p>I was hoping somebody could offer advice on this before I spend a couple hundred plat on ingredients making adornments. Any suggestions/comments are appreciated.</p>

[Gaige]

<p>Potency - Crit Bonus - Agility - Crit - DA - Ability Mod - Haste - C/P/S - DPS Mod</p><p>In that order.</p><p>Her breakdown seems really skewed towards auto attack, makes me wonder if she is getting off her best CAs before the mob dies.</p>

[Wasuna]

<p>Thanks for the reply. That is basically what I thought.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Potency > Crit Bonus</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Why?</span></p>

[Aaramis]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Potency > Crit Bonus</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Why?</span></p></blockquote><p>I wondered that myself.</p><p>I'd be more inclined to say Crit % > Crit bonus > DA > potency > ability mod > all else (dps, haste, etc.).</p><p>Crit % by far makes the most impact.  When you get to 100%+ crit and you're critting on a permanent basis, you're suddenly doing 50% more damage than previously, which is a huge dps jump.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Aaramis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Potency > Crit Bonus</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Why?</span></p></blockquote><p>I wondered that myself.</p><p>I'd be more inclined to say Crit % > Crit bonus > DA > potency > ability mod > all else (dps, haste, etc.).</p><p>Crit % by far makes the most impact.  When you get to 100%+ crit and you're critting on a permanent basis, you're suddenly doing 50% more damage than previously, which is a huge dps jump.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">As far as I know crit bonus is practically the same as potency (when you have 100% crit) except it also affects autoattack.</span></p>

[Gaige]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Why?</span></p></blockquote><p>He asked what to focus on, crit/da are easy to/should be capped so I listed those lower.  Potency is pretty amazing for assassins since our CAs hit so hard and while I like bonus I spec for potency since its a lot harder to get potency and your best CAs will always be affected by PFT so that is 40 bonus right there.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Why?</span></p></blockquote><p>He asked what to focus on, crit/da are easy to/should be capped so I listed those lower.  Potency is pretty amazing for assassins since our CAs hit so hard and while I like bonus I spec for potency since its a lot harder to get potency and your best CAs will always be affected by PFT so that is 40 bonus right there.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">As far as I know crit bonus has no diminishing returns and it definatly has no cap. Having less potency really doesn't matter since crit bonus is just plain better unless it's a fight where you loose a lot of crit chance from debuffs.</span></p>

[Gaige]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Having less potency really doesn't matter</span></p></blockquote><p>Yes it does matter.  Our parse is mostly CA based.  Potency affects our CAs.  Having 120 bonus and 60 potency is worse than 100 bonus and 80 potency.  Just saying.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Having less potency really doesn't matter</span></p></blockquote><p>Yes it does matter.  Our parse is mostly CA based.  Potency affects our CAs.  Having 120 bonus and 60 potency is worse than 100 bonus and 80 potency.  Just saying.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Why?  Crit bonus affects combat arts and autoattacks.</span></p>

[Magnis]

<p>I always thought in the end crit bunus = potency.  But i would love to see where this thread goes.  Leveling a sin, so this info will be good.</p><p>/pulls out pencil and paper</p>

[Magnis]

<p><cite>Wasuna wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My wife is an Assassin and we are going to stat doing some experiments to find a better blue stat combination to get her DPS up a bit. Her DPS mod is way high, her DA is 100%+, her crit bonus is ~50 and her potency is ~35. Her crit chance is of course above 100%.</p><p>Her haste is only around 65 so we have been working on haste items and adornments for her. Her DPS is usually around 40% autoattack, 60% combat arts. I have seen parses where the Assassins had slightly lower Autoattack DPS but their combat art DPS rocked hers by about 2:1 ratio.</p><p>My conclusion was that she needs to forget the haste (unless a nice items drops that has it) and focus on potency, Crit Bonus and spell reuse. I'm gonna blow some adornment materials and work with her to change her adornments after a bunch of runs on training dumbies to see if that does indeen jump her DPS up.</p><p>I was hoping somebody could offer advice on this before I spend a couple hundred plat on ingredients making adornments. Any suggestions/comments are appreciated.</p></blockquote><p>im curious with 100% DA/CC, 50 CB and 35 POTENCY how much does she parse?</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Magnis@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I always thought in the end crit bunus = potency.  But i would love to see where this thread goes.  Leveling a sin, so this info will be good.</p><p>/pulls out pencil and paper</p></blockquote><p> you want to keep them both about even.</p><p> yet still potency > crit bonus because potency is applied first in the crit formula thus recives a slight boost from crit bonus and capped (ability mod) smaller ca's (mark, ect...)</p><p> yes crit bonus does affect auto attack as well as ca's but auto attack is still max + 1 for the most part and only amounts to 20% - 30% of assassin parse.   were as ca's amount to 65% - 75% of assassin parse.</p>

[Urgol]

Potency is > crit bonis not because it's applied first or anything like that, but because you have 0 innate potency and 50 innate crit bonus. And the formulas are linear, that's why both potency and critbonus have a diminishing return. So unless your auto-attack is like 33% of your dps or more potency is > crit bonus for you.