Anyone play EQ2 on a laptop (long thread) technical problem

[the_snare]

<p>I've been told that laptops are not fully compatible with the game and that there is pretty much nothing I can do. Does anyone else have/had this problem and were able to find some kind of solution? Here's one of my discussion threads. I tried to post them all, but there's a limit to what I can put in a thread.</p><table cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Had to go ahead and delete that thread between me and the Sony's techs, as I was told it was a violation of thier privacy, but those of you who have already seen it will know what I mean now.</span></strong></td></tr> <tr><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td> <td></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"></td></tr> <tr><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td> <td></td></tr> <tr><td></td> <td></td></tr></tbody></table>

[the_snare]

<p>I don't know why everything I quote is in a dark font.</p>

[Jrral]

<p>A lot of laptops have an integrated video chipset (usually Intel) that doesn't have it's own video RAM, it "borrows" system RAM for video memory. Most of the Intel chipsets also don't support the higher-end 3D functions needed for a lot of modern games. In that case, you can end up with a lot of weird misbehaviors and crashes as the game pushes the hardware beyond it's limits. There's nothing to be done about that.</p><p>If you want to run EQ2 on a laptop, what you want is one with a video chipset with dedicated video RAM. A good rule of thumb is to look at the video chipset's maker. If it's Intel, it'll tend to be trouble. If the chipset's from nVidia or is an ATI/AMD Radeon chipset, and it has dedicated video RAM, chances are it'll work as long as you've got enough CPU horsepower for the game itself.</p>

[Crickett]

<p><a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/hardware_requirements_(eq2">http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/hardware_requirements_(eq2</a>)</p><p>These are the 2009 requirements and down at the bottom of the page is a "Will my computer run it" button. (It will not tell you how well it will run)</p><p>As Jrral noted, some laptops can run eq2 well, the one I have, a Toshiba (3 year old cheapie laptop it was) with a 128mb card and 4gb ram runs it with everything off so-so.</p><p>There is no getting around the hardware requirements, and the most important requirement is the cpu (ghz).</p>

[MurFalad]

<p>What they are saying about the laptops is correct, but generally I think you'll be safe if you are running either an ATI or NVidea based graphics chipset.</p><p>I run EQ2 during the week on a Toshiba 4Gb (only 3 usable due to vista 32 bit) core 2 duo 1.5Ghz laptop with a ATI HD2600 graphics card (that shares the 667Mhz DDR2 main memory).  It generally runs in balanced fine, although I sometimes drop it down a notch for raiding.</p><p>The problems there are if you have very little memory you will have big problems but that's easy to upgrade normally, the other problem is if you are using an Intel based graphics chipset.  The problem there is that it is both very slow (<a href="http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-gtx,review-31939-7.html" target="_blank">check out this chart here from Toms hardware that gives a rough idea of graphic card speeds</a>), and its also not well supported for gaming for this reason.</p><p>If it is a intel chipset then apart from upgrading the graphics drivers you cannot do much with it, I used to run a Kyro graphics card years ago and had the same sort of compatibility problems, that's where I learnt to either go for ATI or Nvidea for serious gaming.</p>

[melaine_dvarvensplitter]

<p>I play eq2 on my laptop and it is a Toshiba Satellite L505D with Windows 7 and 4gig ram and an AMD 2.2Ghz Dual core mobile and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200. I get 10-30fps depending on what I am doing and tbh it works well for me since I tend to play from home and the hospital.</p><p>On average I get 20fps and in raid 15fps, I play with all extra things off and have a fairly decent looking game.</p><p>I do recommend getting a good cooler for it as it helps with the heat.</p>

[Finora]

<p>I pretty much use my computer (laptop) for gaming. So when I went looking for one, I did it with that in mind and anything that wouldn't be good for gaming was immediately scratched from the list.</p><p>It runs the game better than the desktop it replaced ever did. Of course it was newer and is a gaming laptop (ASUS G50VT) with Nvidia chipset.</p><p>Like others have said, due to how some laptops are made, they just aren't going to be good for gaming.</p><p>Good luck.</p>

[Eritius]

<p>Laptops run fine. In fact mine runs EQ2 with a better framerate despite being inferior to the desktop.</p><p>1.8ghz Dual core2GB RAMGeforce 7600 GO</p><p>Vs</p><p>2.2ghz Quad core8GB RAMGeforce 8800 GT</p>

[feldon30]

<p>Have you actually provided the information that was requested from you? Without any information about your laptop, it is absolutely impossible to help you. I have run EQ2 on several laptops just fine, but they were less than 4 years old. Can you at least tell us how old your laptop is?</p><p>I predict we will see a lot more of these threads now that Intel is providing such a huge discount to HP and other laptop makers to include Intel's crappy graphics chipset in 13" and 15" laptops rather than nVidia or ATI. 3 years ago, I bought an HP laptop with Intel Core 2 Duo and nVidia GeForce Go 7600 for $1099. It runs EQ2 better than the typical brand new $1299 HP laptop because they have the crappy Intel Graphics which are really only useful for 3D screen savers.</p>

[Crickett]

<p>Also, whether a laptop or desktop:</p><p>Check your Windows power settings (Settings -> Control Panel -> Power options).  Make sure you are NOT on "Power savings" mode.  Set it to high performance or balanced or something.</p>

[GlitterPaws]

<p>For what it's worth I can run EQ2 on my netbook. I have HP's 311-1025N with the nVidia Ion chip, 2 gig RAM and 250 HD. As mentioned by another poster just about everything is off.</p><p>Granted I use it when travelling and mainly tradeskill or solo quest. There is no way I could raid on the netbook. Grouping is semi-painful. However, it's there to socialize with the guild and non-guild buddies when I'm on the road.</p><p>I heart the  Ion.</p><p>gp</p>

[the_snare]

<p><cite>MurFalad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What they are saying about the laptops is correct, but generally I think you'll be safe if you are running either an ATI or NVidea based graphics chipset.</p><p>I run EQ2 during the week on a Toshiba 4Gb (only 3 usable due to vista 32 bit) core 2 duo 1.5Ghz laptop with a ATI HD2600 graphics card (that shares the 667Mhz DDR2 main memory).  It generally runs in balanced fine, although I sometimes drop it down a notch for raiding.</p><p>The problems there are if you have very little memory you will have big problems but that's easy to upgrade normally, the other problem is if you are using an Intel based graphics chipset.  The problem there is that it is both very slow (<a href="http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-gtx,review-31939-7.html" target="_blank">check out this chart here from Toms hardware that gives a rough idea of graphic card speeds</a>), and its also not well supported for gaming for this reason.</p><p>If it is a intel chipset then apart from upgrading the graphics drivers you cannot do much with it, I used to run a Kyro graphics card years ago and had the same sort of compatibility problems, that's where I learnt to either go for ATI or Nvidea for serious gaming</p></blockquote><p>My chipset is already is an ATI one. It is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 actually. But is there more than one chipset? Usually the chipset refers to the controller chips (North Bridge/South Bridge, Super I/O chip, etc) - in a desktop at least, whereas in this case it's a laptop so we are talking about the graphics chipset.</p><p>But, perhaps we've gotten somewhere now. If that ATI graphics chipset is what you mean and it has worked perfectly fine for other people who have it, then maybe the problem IS fixable. I'll say this, this graphics chipset does a HELL of a better job than my old one in my DELL inspiron laptop did. You should have seen just how laggy it was just walking around Antonica. In fact, the graphics performance I got out of it was like none I had ever had on a computer, laptop or otherwise.</p>

[the_snare]

<p><cite>Crickett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Also, whether a laptop or desktop:</p><p>Check your Windows power settings (Settings -> Control Panel -> Power options).  Make sure you are NOT on "Power savings" mode.  Set it to high performance or balanced or something.</p></blockquote><p>I can't seem to find that specific option (worded exactly as you put it, that is) under any tab in power management. But, the power scheme is set to Portable/Laptop under the Power schemes tab.</p>

[the_snare]

<p><cite>the_snare wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>MurFalad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What they are saying about the laptops is correct, but generally I think you'll be safe if you are running either an ATI or NVidea based graphics chipset.</p><p>I run EQ2 during the week on a Toshiba 4Gb (only 3 usable due to vista 32 bit) core 2 duo 1.5Ghz laptop with a ATI HD2600 graphics card (that shares the 667Mhz DDR2 main memory).  It generally runs in balanced fine, although I sometimes drop it down a notch for raiding.</p><p>The problems there are if you have very little memory you will have big problems but that's easy to upgrade normally, the other problem is if you are using an Intel based graphics chipset.  The problem there is that it is both very slow (<a href="http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-radeon-hd-geforce-gtx,review-31939-7.html" target="_blank">check out this chart here from Toms hardware that gives a rough idea of graphic card speeds</a>), and its also not well supported for gaming for this reason.</p><p>If it is a intel chipset then apart from upgrading the graphics drivers you cannot do much with it, I used to run a Kyro graphics card years ago and had the same sort of compatibility problems, that's where I learnt to either go for ATI or Nvidea for serious gaming</p></blockquote></blockquote><p>My computer is a Dell Studio 1555, which is a little over a year old.</p>

[the_snare]

<p>Just a bump. Wondered now if since I've told you I have a chipset that you have reported to work with the game, what I can do.</p>

[Isilsisial]

<p>I was playing on my brand new laptop, 2 days ago... then it patched the other day and now I'm getting a fatal error... <verify> E:liveeq2frameworkrendersrcVeShader.cpp(10223): m_pPixelShader00939950</p><p>Mine is an Asus laptop(Republic of Gamers) intel core i7 processor, 6GB DDR3 memory, and an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 graphics with 1 GB dedicated memory... it was running the game 100 fps.  Now it crashes everytime.  Cruel, cruel world.</p>

[the_snare]

<p><cite>Isilsisial wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was playing on my brand new laptop, 2 days ago... then it patched the other day and now I'm getting a fatal error... E:liveeq2frameworkrendersrcVeShader.cpp(10223): m_pPixelShader00939950</p><p>Mine is an Asus laptop(Republic of Gamers) intel core i7 processor, 6GB DDR3 memory, and an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 graphics with 1 GB dedicated memory... it was running the game 100 fps.  Now it crashes everytime.  Cruel, cruel world.</p></blockquote><p>I think your best bet is start your own thread with this problem. It'd be more likely to get replies if you had a dedicated thread, with a descriptive title, rather than posting your thread within mine, where it's not actively visible.</p>